Supporting Israel is unironically based hear me out. the United States of America commands the world's largest empire in human history. A basic principle of commanding your empire is understanding basic geography. Having an empire and dominating it, commanding it wisely is based.
Israel is a legacy project of the British Empire, but nobody really understands this beyond muh Rothschild conspiracy theory and muh Balfour Declaration.
>Israel sits on a strategically important piece of geography on the eastern Mediterranean. >it sits at a corssroad between East and West >it has access to the Mediterranean coast, and its warm water ports. >whichever empire controls this region also controls the flow of commerce, natural resources, and military equipment in the region. >Israel provides the United States of America with a support base for America's actions in the region which secure America's domination and control of the fossil fuel market, which is why America is the most dominant country on earth right now. >Israel is literally the reason America is great
Every empire in the world that has been close by has recognized the strategic importance of the region of modern day Israel. Roman Empire, Greek Empire, Persian Empire the Roman Empire, and the British Empire ALL understood the strategic importance of Israel. Get with the program Jow Forums Support Israel. It's based.
I think that, even if Israel did 9/11, it was the American Depp State that told them to do it-- not the Israelis themselves out of the hate of their own hearts for Americans or anything like that.
Gabriel Gutierrez
>hear me out. Fuck you kike, Jow Forums doesn't give a fuck Neck yourself jewish snotling, fuck Israhell.
Jeremiah Ward
>Zionist traitors within the US establishment colluded with the foreign nation of Israel to murder US soldiers
Correct. Because a zionist jew loyal to Israel, Henry Kissinger, was dictating US foreign policy at the time.
Hunter Jones
Does that explain the Israeli Mossad agents who were dancing working for the Israeli government?
Adam Ortiz
But, what if by supporting Israel, you are supporting the United States of America? Even Israel hates niggers.
>>Israel sits on a strategically important piece of geography on the eastern Mediterranean. Not strategically important. That would be Turkey.
>>it sits at a corssroad between East and West Again, Turkey.
>>it has access to the Mediterranean coast, and its warm water ports. So do Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey, Gaza
>>whichever empire controls this region also controls the flow of commerce, natural resources, and military equipment in the region. No, Israel does not have a lot of trade with the Arab world
>>Israel provides the United States of America with a support base for America's actions in the region which secure America's domination and control of the fossil fuel market, which is why America is the most dominant country on earth right now. No, oil flows through land pipes, through, you've guessed it, Turkey
>>Israel is literally the reason America is great No, it stopped being great in the 70s
I do support Israel, but not your retarded posts
Aiden Richardson
>Henry Kissinger, was dictating US foreign policy at the time He was doing it for American interests. If the US had the balls to do it, we would have flipped Egypt and turned it into a staunch ally of the United States in the wake of the USS Liberty attack. it would have turned a negative into a positive.
The american deep state/MIC/CIA and Israel are both in the pockets of Jewish banker war profiteers.
Also much of the american deep state are themselves Jewish zionists. You have to look at the jewish state not as Israel but as a supranational entity consisting of supranational governmental bodies, like the world zionist congress, the world jewish congress. Israel is certainly a hub for this network but is by no means the entirety of it.
No. If the US attacked Egypt in retaliation for a fake false flag attack, we would have killed thousands of US soldiers, probably millions of egyptian civillians and almost certainly would have triggered a retaliatory attack by russia as they specifically state if we intervened in this conflict they would as well. It likely would have triggered at least a proxy war between the US and russia in the middle east if not an actual nuclear exchange.
Michael Price
Even Russia supports Israel. That's why they're in Syria to make sure the civil war never stops.
Jose Long
you glow in the dark unironically
Cooper Bailey
>You have to look at the jewish state not as Israel but as a supranational entity consisting of supranational governmental bodies, like the world zionist congress, the world jewish congress. Israel is certainly a hub for this network but is by no means the entirety of it. Okay, but the question really becomes, is American support for Israel driven largely by Jewish organization, OR is American support for Israel rather a very convenient thing for us to do simply for American interests? I think it's just a convenient thing for us to do. If it becomes inconvenient, we would probably throw the Israelis under the bus tomorrow. washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/asset-test-how-the-united-states-benefits-from-its-alliance-with-israel
OP actually makes a compelling case based on imperial history, not on the notion of support for Jewish self determination or human rights or anything faggy like that.
>It likely would have triggered at least a proxy war between the US and russia in the middle east if not an actual nuclear exchange. now you're just being dramatic.
Ryder Sullivan
stay mad jidf
Josiah Ross
pic related would Make Israel Great Again. OP just wants us to appreciate the strategic importance of Israel to American interests.
>Does that explain the Israeli Mossad agents who were dancing were these the same guys that some women witness before they got into van?
Blake Price
Israel is not a good ally. They are the in the top 3 enemies in terms of espionage, hacking attacks, stealing technology, and the #1 in terms of false flag attacks launched against US soldiers that is then used to guide US into conflict at ENORMOUS expense to crush Israels enemies.
Israel stole US nuclear secrets, stole US nuclear material, stole US nuclear triggers and then the president who tried to prove that Israel had a secret nuclear program was killed, according to FBI sources by a faction supported by jews.
How did spending 6.5 trillion USD and thousands of US lives and killing millions of arab civillians and creating the migrant crisis in europe help US interests. The fact that there is a handfull of US zionists who play along with the Jews/Israel is not evidence of them being good for US itnerests.
We are not allowed to launch air missions from Israel. Israel has never provided any military support with the US in the wars in the middle east. The only argument that Israel does ANYTHING for the US is they provide us with intelligence. The CIA themselves classified the intelligence as "unreliable and self serving". Here is a clip of the CIA operations chief in charge of the Osama Bin Ladan hunt explaining why he thinks the US should drop Israel completely as an ally.
>Miga nope. all I'm saying is that conspiracy theories to the effect that the Jews control everything are pretty dumb because they don't take into account how important Israel is to the American imperial regime.
Jaxson Gonzalez
This is a retarded take.
The U.S. gave up imperialism after WW2 because it learned the lesson that establishing military outposts with acceptance of the locals is preferable to having to take the responsibility of governing the local populace.
It's why after occupying so many places and having the possibility of a world wide empire the U.S. just walked away and left bases instead.
We over 15 military bases in the Middle East from Egypt to the Iranian border and only 1 of them is located in Israel and it's a fucking radar station.
The only value Israel has is made up by special interests and parroted by their supporters.
" A message had just been received over the Moscow-Washington hotline threatening Soviet military action that would lead to a nuclear confrontation. New evidence now reveals what action the Soviets were preparing: a naval landing on Israel's shores to prevent its total victory in the Six Day War.
The Soviet Union had played a central role in escalating tension in the Middle East and had falsely accused Israel of massing forces on the Syrian border. For the first time, Moscow sent much of its Black Sea fleet into the Mediterranean and backed up the Egyptian president, Gamal Abdel Nasser, when he blocked Israeli shipping in the Red Sea and demanded the removal of the United Nations force from Sinai."
Egypt was Russias proxy and a direct attack on Egypt by the US would have certainly produced a counter move by Russia.
>Jews in Roman times: Throw torches. >Jews in Modern times: Throw molotov cocktails. Jews never change.
Adrian Evans
>the United States of America commands the world's largest empire in human history. No it doesn't. Empires and alliances are very different things, and although much of the world is allied to the USA, it is beyond the command of the USA.
As for Israel: it deserves some support, but not the sycophantic unconditional support that many are eager to give it.
Jaxon Moore
Don't listen to him f*ellow, Jews did WTC was a prank by weev and his friends
Leo Barnes
Fuck off didn't read
sage in options
Andrew Ramirez
sage this kike
Carson Johnson
>Supporting an illegitimate kike state while pissing off the rest of MENA is based and strategic. Fuck right off kike shitskin shills.
Nolan Sanchez
Israel is a meme country the real name of the region is judea but in modern day it should be called palestine and it should be under muslim control not with filth jews parasite,and usa is not an "empire" is a federation of states.
Thing is, none of those benefits require the Jews to be living there.
Dominic Ramirez
(911, Las Vegas and the USS Liberty. Nope Israelis are just another enemy.
Tyler Williams
Fpbp
Zachary Morales
israel has no right to exist. jews are larping faggots who stole evey single concept that makes their religion; may they be nuked by every country until they are all wiped from history.
Jacob Peterson
doesn't explain why they keep winning. lol. if what you say worked and they "stole" every concept, how do you explain their economical raise and political power ? 12 yo incel who doesn't understand why he's a slave. cute.
