Top 78% of women competing for top 20% of men

Guys, being in the top 20% of men is EASY.

1.) Lift heavy weights
2.) Be hygienic, and keep your room/house nice and clean
3.) Don't hesitate to talk to women, and make eye contact the whole time
4.) Be direct, and tease her
5.) When on a date, don't be afraid to touch her. touching builds bonding.

Do all this, and I guarantee you will be in the top 20% of men.

Yeah except the study says you need to be in the 20% of men for physical attractiveness.

The type of people that uses Tinder does not represent the population available to date/have a relationship with.

Dating in 2000 was so much before everyone had internet on their phones. RIP young dudes. And you weren’t worried about being #MeToo’d

>Guys, being in the top 20% of men is EASY.
>1.) Lift heavy weights
>2.) Be hygienic, and keep your room/house nice and clean
>3.) Don't hesitate to talk to women, and make eye contact the whole time
>4.) Be direct, and tease her
>5.) When on a date, don't be afraid to touch her. touching builds bonding.
>Do all this, and I guarantee you will be in the top 20% of men.
All this only works if your face is attractive.

Im glad I have a good face that sounds like alot of work.

Agreed. I stupidly used these sites - tinder, bumble, hinge - for dating over the period of the last few years, with the intention of forming a long term relationship. From the perspective of a degenerate faggot (even if not a homosexual, having sterile transient relationships over and over is essentially the same lifestyle of a fag) I was “successful,” dating and hooking up with girls on a regular basis while being picky. My point is that there are basically NO quality women on these apps. And there are very few quality women in our society in general - because these apps are widely used, and the women on them reflect attitudes commonly held in society today. They’re extremely promiscuous, unreliable, and worst off many of them seem to want to force you into a relationship while they don’t seem willing to commit to you. Our society seems predicated on being a debt-slave with either no relationship, or a large number of short term and unstable relationships (like a homosexual). All I really want in life is to find a good woman, get married and raise children. Of my friends who are married, nearly all have had major problems with the women being unfaithful. It sucks but it’s hard to find a way out.

>He's so tall / And handsome as hell
>He's so bad / But he does it so well

What did she mean by this?

Not really bait but yeah I was in Dublin. This is the photo I used in my profile which I no longer have because I found my future wife.

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you forgot

>be rich as fuck and be able to provide an easy lifestyle for her (if you want a relationship, otherwise you can pretend to be rich until she finds out and drops you)

>be Jow Forumstard
>hate on society and how brainwashed everybody is
>80% of men can't get laid hurr durr such a problem
why would you care, just don't be a normie cuck. you can watch porn daily anyways.

She means that women should fuck the short term fi-fi satisfying bad boy, instead of using foresight to marry a man that will provide her with a long happy marriage. Tay is a shill just like the rest of them, and deep down we all know it. We just needed to pretend that one woman could be our queen.....just once.

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People like Taylor Swift get to do that on the basis of their popularity and wealth, but most women should realize that they need to lower their standards for practicality.

Maybe that worked in the 70's boomer fuck. But things are a little more complicated nowadays.

What if I'm under 6 ft can I still be a top 20% chad?

>tinder

The top whatever% of subhuman trash is competing for the top whatever% of degenerate fuccbois. This demoralization campaign sure has me counting sheep. Who else is feeling a tired?

My trick it to approach them, say "Hey ladies, hope you're having a good night" and leave. It keeps them intrigued. It's so easy after that.

Getting in the top 20% is attainable for all of you. Yall dont realize how low the threshold is because the general population of men are fat, smelly, and act like dipshits

It's like how people bitch about the 1% or 5% hording all the wealth. The threshold for that is $400k and $166k respectively

Simply take care of yourself and act like a goddamn man. Dont be fat. Clean yourself. Dont act like a sperg. Do you realize how many men (and women) in this nation are overweight?

Get in shape

Congrats youre already in the top 20%. If you fail with one woman, who gives a fuck? Move on to the next. Youre blackpilling yourself over "muh top 20%" when youre comparing yourself to the top .01%

i went to gym 6 months later i got asked for my phone number the first time in my life. not just your body changes. you become calm, grounded, still and joyful. 2 weeks before she asked me, i had an epiphany that i should just focus on what i love doing, i made music. and i also focused on school and gym. then out of nowhere i got asked out. met her everyday and had sex everyday.
i understand that hitting the gym to impress women is cucked. but intentionally holding yourself back just to piss off women is self-destructive.

should have been the first post

I forgot to add, this advice doesnt work if youre short

Tinder is for dating? I thought it was made to hook up

What do you regard as short?

This
>have decent face genetics
>be at least 6 foot
>women drop everything to be in your world

80/20 rule is basic entry level redpill knowledge that anyone who is not a delusional twat accepts.

That's because the plain Jane's of yesterday are fat chicks today, and really attractive girls become e-thots or get a rich old sugar daddy.
That leaves a remainder group of "well, she's not fat..." 4/10 girls that you see tall, attractive men walking around with.

This is actually really funny, because this is what happens: delusional women overvalue their own attractiveness and throw their pussy at the most attractive men. These attractive men fuck them and leave them when another interesting piece of pussy comes along. Women are still in a delusional state regarding their actual attractiveness because they managed to fuck an actual chad. Well into their 30s, they complain because there are no good men, when in reality they hit the wall and chad is no longer interested in fucking them. Because their expectations are so high, they will never consider settling down with Bill the plumber, and they die lonely alcoholic cat ladies.

Even if I managed to achieve all of those things, I might land at around the 20th or maybe even the `5th percentile, unless I acquire a lot more wealth.

>Because their expectations are so high, they will never consider settling down with Bill the plumber
They do as a safety net then divorce him when they can find someone better to mooch off of.
Cunts who go after chad aren't even treated particularly well by them, they just want that level of attractiveness and cling onto that shitty relationship like its the gold standard.
Its always a red flag when they won't fucking shut up about chad, even worse when they're already old and pruny.

>Guys just be all the top 20%
You are a fucking retard

If you're white, you can get an 8 or 9 when going after an asian or latina in terms of looks. A lot of normal looking white guys with no balls settle with the 4/10 asian girl who approaches them instead of going after the 8 that would gladly accept them.

Yup. It's amazing how when youre out of shape, weak or fat and it feels like it's an impossible battle to get a girl and feel like youll never be good enough (a side effect of that low T from fat)

Then you get in shape and it's like

>"wait wut?"

>"why are these girls staring at me?"

>"why is she being nice and smiling?"

>"Did this chick just fucking smell me?"

Then eventually it clicks, it gets super easy to get girld, and you realize focusing on yourself actually makes you attractive. You ignore them or act ambivalent towards them and they gravitate towards you

But i guess if yall want to be fat and alone your whole life then thats your prerogative. Break your addiction to food. I have no sympathy for you demoralized nihilists who dont want to change your lot in life because we all have the capability of making it. You can do it, i know you can

So what do short men do in addition to being a healthy weight, taking care of themselves and attaining financial/career stability?

5'6" reporting in.

>They do as a safety net
This may have been true in the past, but since Sex In the City trained them all on how to think like vapid, materialistic cunts, these roasties have been absolutely fucking delusional in regards to what they think they will get out of life.

Yeah I just saw a tiktok about a fucking american chad he send a message 'wanna fuck' or something like that to almost a hundred girls , most of them were down.
I cannot wait for the days the machines take over

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It’s a lie. Pic related.

Take a picture next to a 100,000 car like you own it.

You’ll get matched easy.

Lots of studies show female ratings of men are strongly influenced by status symbols.

Redpills incoming, open wide:

psychologytoday.com/us/blog/homo-consumericus/201012/men-you-re-only-good-looking-the-car-you-re-driving
>Men: You’re Only As Good-Looking As The Car That You’re Driving.

>we demonstrated that men's testosterone levels rise subsequent to driving a Porsche. In other words, endowing a man with a potent status symbol triggers an endocrinological response, typically seen when a man experiences a social/competitive victory.

>Unlike the popular maxim that suggests that the owner of a fancy sports car is overcompensating for a small penis (Freudian babble?), it would seem that owning a sports car is the fast track to being perceived as physically attractive by the ladies.

Study 1
>Results showed that the male target model was rated as significantly more attractive on a rating scale of 1-10 when presented to female participants in the high compared to the neutral status context. Males were not influenced by status manipulation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19302732/

Study 2
>Group 1 ratings (target male with no car) were significantly lower than Group 4 (target male with Mercedes), p = .009. Similarly, Group 2 ratings (target male with old Neon) were significantly lower than Group 4 ratings
researchgate.net/publication/266597512_Determinants_of_Male_Attractiveness_Hotness_Ratings_as_a_Function_of_Perceived_Resources

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No they arent. You think they are because it's something you tell yourself at night to justify your current lot in life. If it were simple then youd have no excuse. It is simple, you have no excuse. Get in shape and go talk to them. When they start acting like the autistic ones then youll know youve made it

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If you have to ask, you missed the cutoff

>Lots of studies show female ratings of men are strongly influenced by status symbols.
Yep, basically women's brains don't work the same ways yours does. So you can easily trick them into thinking you're attractive with expensive clothes, a car, and a few corny jokes.

>100,000 car
Porsche released these new models like yesterday they are 100k aprox fuck you would get pussy so hard with these new Porsche models

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It was then women started using it to find long term relationships and now it's pointless

"top"
I hate skinny bitches.
I need a little slack, not obese... but some slack.

yeah but realistically you're talking about 5.4 to 6.2, you're setting the bottom and top to be almost the same so it looks like a big deal, but it's a marginal difference

Holy fuck guys these new cars make my cock hard

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Why would you even need a Porsche? Women are so stupid that a Mazda Miata is enough to impress them.

there are 3 types of people:
>type 1: wants beautiful partner, is beautiful, finds matching mate
>type 2: wants beautiful partner, is not beautiful, so he ignores her and she ignores him
>type 3: loves and accepts, can be together with anybody who is alost loving and accepting (not demanding)
type 3 is pretty rare. i've seen enough ugly guys who get hit on by ugly women and rejecting them because they think "just because i'm ugly i don't deserve an ugly partner" so ugly women ignore ugly men and ugly men ignore ugly women. by ugly i don't even mean looks, i mean ugly personality, ugly shape, ugly energy. or if ugly sounds to hard, let's say "unattractive"

I don't even understand what women find attractive in men
I look at what women consider beauty and it's fucked

Like look at Brad Pitt
Dude looks like a mongoloid blockhead yet women fawn over him

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Tbh you are probably right, the new mazda Miata looks very impressive especially for its price

Tay is a walking red flag judging by her song lyrics and relationship history. Shes the kind of girl you want to avoid

If you allow yourself to be weak and walked all over then thats whatll happen

Women are disgusted by weakness in men.

You might provide money but if you have no backbone and cannot physically hold your own her brain is going to be in constant anxiety mode because her chosen mate is a weakling. So she'll nag you to try and get a rise out of you and hopefully you use that anger to make yourself stronger mentally and physically. If you dont then she will take the money and find someone better. It's not something they consciously do.

Men have primal attractions but women do too. Their primal attractions are different than a mans.

Be a strong virtuous masculine man who is stalwart in his ideals and who has his own interests and hobbies.

Dont listen to what they say, look at what they actually do. Dont take pol or the medias word for what they do. Go out and talk to them and observe. If they reject you, who gives a fuck? Every man gets rejected. Get over it. Why do you care about the opinion of someone who doesnt want to be with you? No one knows you better than you know yourself. So if you dont hate yourself how can they make you hate yourself?

Young girls teen-young adults are wtting themselves over this guy on Tiktok tiktok.com/@noeneubanks

I just get gayboys pretending to be women in video games to send me nudes of the Ukranian models they're RPing as. Good enough for me.

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Is that a tranny?

Hitting the gym is never cucked, Ruprecht. Me getting bigger for ME is what drives me to the bench press. Access to pleasurable, moist holes comes after the fact.

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> softboi
yeah prob

But if you look at the studies and see the guy has a lot of room still.

Both need a good haircut, nicer and more fitted clothes, and spend 4-6 months doing some weights.... this will give them another 1-2 points pretty easily.

Literally all the guy did in the second study was go from a pic on shitty baggy clothes and no car to a pic in shitty baggy clothes next to a white Mercedes and for like +1.5 points.

Pro tip, women LOVE black cars. BLACK cars are more edgy and stylish to them more of that bad boy vibe. Online polls and my own conversations with girls revealed this.

Guy in second study will gain +3 compared to first photo with a black luxury car, fitting stylish cloths and a cleaner more groomed hair cut and/or beard.

All of those scream status to a women.

>not in the top 20 percent of men
>do perfectly fine with women and do great on tinder

This is just cope from guys who cant get women. Telling yourself 80% of me are in the same boat as you is just a way to comfort yourself but it isnt true. You guys are failed males, breeding is natu4es only requirement of men and you guys cant even do that lol.

>dating-economy
Dating is a degenerate modern concept
If you actually want to get married it is much easier for a man than a woman

i agree. but the hardest thing in life is to get your mind right on doing things for yourself. i think the secret is freedom of wants. if you want something, you become enslaved. then you have to do stuff to get what you want. you become cucked, because you depend on something.
when you stop wanting anything, you start simply doing what's good for you, because you realize that it's good. it's like someone offering you 100 dollars or a million dollar. it's a no brainer you take the millions. same with self-improvement. self-improvement is not a burden, it's a joy. but it can turn into hell if you do it for the wrong reasons.

1). They know he his rich.

Way down the list but still important

2). He has good style, fitted and stylish clothes. Most men except gay men fail at this miserably. Hollywood men have female stylists that help dress them. This is why many females assume a well dressed man is gay.

3). Face.

if you're trying to attack gold diggers then buy all your consumerist crap

attract*

>All of those scream status to a women.
The sad part is that most women are stupid enough to fall for this shit.

How are you gonna act like you are trying to help people when you say this kind of shit You are typical gas lighter.

Top 20% in attractiveness threshold is a lot easier to obtain than most people realize. You could be there in 2 or 3 months work

Even then though the attractiveness meme isnt as important to women as it is men. Youre attributing male thinking to female thinking. Women will be very attracted to very ugly men simply because those men have personalities they find attractive

That "dad bod" shit everyone thnks women are lying about is actually true but it needs to be taken in context. Objectively women will be attracted to 6 packs over chubby guys, but when asked that question the girl isnt thinking about guys in general she is thinking about the guy she currently likes and just listing off his physical traits to rationalize herself finding them physically attractive. The physical attractiveness isn't the primary motivating factor for women as it is men. So a dad bod wont cause you to land a girl easier but it shows a dad bod isnt an eliminating factor

Also for women in online dating or online chat services the vast majority of guys are just sending them an endless array of unwanted dick pics or telling them shit like how they want to fuck them or offering to pay them for sex. They hate it. There is so much of it it is hard to get through all the clutter and theyre always on the defensive because of it.

Imagine if every time you talked to someone online there was a 75% chance youd get a random dick in your face with someone telling you to "suck it"

Both sides are pretty degenerate but men are really fucking degenerate in general on there so if everyone is degenerate theyll go for the hottest degenerate.

If you can actually be interesting and appear above all the guys slinging dicks across the web and flirt your way into the sexual stuff then youll be fine

Cast a wide net.

Sad if true

That's why I think women might be reatrded
Imagine basing your sexual worth on the fucking rags that one wears

Like imagine on the opposite end you meet a girl who wears a simple t shirt and jeans but is generally good looking
Are you going to go
>W E W laddie! I DONT SEE NO GUCCI EVENING DRESS SO IM GOING TO DEEM YOU UNATTRACTIVE

Style and clothing perceptions to general society is something I will never in my life understand

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> Thin
> High test jaw
> Looks a bit sociopathic
> Hairy
> Poor setting
Checks out. Hope you found your wife std free.

please stfu

you are full of shit

If you take a walk formits mere relaxation and pleasure you will keep taking them. If you get tricked and begin walking to “lose weight” (vanity) you will being to hate it.

Find the pleasure in what you do. Not for vanity or to impress anyone else but for your own enjoyment.

Why would anyone say shit like this? I don't understand negative people.

LINK IT

it's not true. women are far more attracted to money and power than looks.

Its impossible,sorry should have saved the link it was a great blackpill.

tinder statistics are real life daating. If you think most actual dating is online dating nowadays

The top 20% of men contribute 80% of society's benefits. Of course you don't deserve what I get. Women can recognize this, why can't you?

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So basically we now have empirical data that shows that it isn't men who have unrealistic standards, but women?
What a time to be alive.
Guess I'll die.

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Seriously, I don't know why I keep coming to these threads. There is ALWAYS some guy passionately going off about how easy it is to be in the top 20%, and then they just casually throw out there "none of this works if you are short". The majority of men struggling with this shit ARE short, the top 20% of men ARE TALL. Lmao what a pointless human to be. I'm so glad I'm not the guy in every 20/80 thread trying to convince men of how easy it is. "Just lift bro! Buy a black car bro! It's easy! (not if you are short)". What motivates people to be this way? And of course the icing on the cake is that if I point out how much of a douche you are, people come to me like "Have sex, just lift bro, get laid bro."

BUt of course i'm 5'8, so none of the advice is directed toward me right? Bahaha just fuck you dude, whoever you are. One of the worst kind of posters on Jow Forums to be honest. The PUA gas lighter.

>So basically we now have empirical data that shows that it isn't men who have unrealistic standards, but women?
On Tinder

Just learn to enjoy being alone. Online dating and flirting feels so fucking awkward. If this truly is the future then I welcome coming home to an empty quiet apartment.

Worrying about what people think about you is the most cucked shit ever.

I cant believe there are "men" who read some literature on the internet, and let it determine where they are in life. Doesn't get more cucked than that.

Yeah, but don’t think stylish means fashion brands. It’s more about the look and fit of clothes. Then if you have a status label to go on top, it’s like a cherry on top.

Think of it this way, a women is looking to be taken care of, and if a man can’t take care of himself, how can he take care of her? Women see clothes style fit and grooming as taking care of himself and having his shit together so it influences females attraction to a man quote strongly.

How do you get a gf when you have ptsd around girls from stuff in the past but haven't got to be with one since? Ik it's a long shot because it's such a weird specific problem but when I got to cuddle with a beautiful girl I couldn't talk and then I started shaking and I had to go to the bathroom and once I got in there I threw up and understandably she thought I was weird and now I don't get to talk to her anymore. It makes me really sad because she was so pretty and ok touching me and I don't know if anyone else ever will I might have ruined my shot.

>Top 78% of women
I don't think women are that attractive.

>Style and clothing perceptions to general society is something I will never in my life understand
It's the same shit as driving an expensive car. Being well dressed generally indicates higher social status.
Seriously why does this confuse you so much? Why do you think rappers wear flashy, expensive gold jewelry?

>On Tinder
And OkCupid.
And every other dating app and website.
There is a clear correlation.

Newton died a virgin.

That's the point. They think they are, but aren't.

Good advice, also be aware of one itis. Don't get obsessed over one girl. Don't believe in the soul mate shit

>And every other dating app
What were the stats on Christianmingle?