There is no bill when I call cops and they come to take part in a shoot out and save my life but there’s a bill for thousands when I go to doctor to have myself taken care of from a flu or dehydrated.
No matter what extent a cop has to risk themselves or how many bullets they fired and artillery they brought I don’t pay anything. From shooting, to rescue operations and to bringing swat teams services as well as helicopters I don’t pay.
Secondly when a fire fighter comes and puts the fire at my house with tons of water and numerous salaried firemen on a very expensive truck with top tier equipment I don’t pay anything. Also when they come and save me from being stuck in a hole I don’t pay anything or use jaws of life to take me out of car in an accident I don’t pay anything. All these things are very expensive.
So come on Jow Forums Why is hospital the only one I have to pay for when those guns, water, trucks, officers and fireman and city services cost money?
If you are going to say taxes Pat fire fighters and cops then here’s my reply: do the same with healthcare. Be consistent
everyone not dying in regular large fires is a public good keeping some one around in case niggers get rowdy is a public good your abortion, while a public benefit is not a public good.
But you do pay for all of those things you unbelievably retarded faggot
Josiah Davis
OK deal
Bentley Moore
Drink water and take care of your self. Stupid should have consequences. I work in 95 degree weather, doing hard labor, and nobody has to take me to the doctor. If you don’t like it, move to Europe. Your endless spam threads here won’t change anything.
Daniel Gonzalez
Abortion is only one thing of thousands of medical reasons A person would need healthcare for and even then you can leave that out who cares. I’m focused on people not needing to avoid emergency rooms cause bills or treatment for injuries that they need
Don’t come at me with the bullshit either that people don’t need emergency rooms or treatment. There’s tons of reasons you’d need these that are out of your control and accidents happen
Chase Martin
Lol idiot. When you get cancer or get hurt randomly it’s not about taken care of yourself. You can’t control these factors
Aaron Cruz
This
Isaiah Bell
No it is not.
Robert Lee
I like paying for cops because they keep the niggers and trash of society in check for me. Thankfully I rarely have to interact with them. If I had to pay for all the healthcare for all the fat burgers with diabetes, who smoke, drink and shoot themselves up with drugs I'd lose my fucking mind. At least in this system retarded degenerates have consequences for their actions.
Landon Ortiz
No I agree OP, medicine in America is a massive scam.
Jacob Ramirez
Do you do this for the 0.02 shekels per post or do you genuinely believe in the cause?
Good goy now fund our invasion of Iran! Fuck your countrymen
Evan Clark
yang money dang I'm feelin lovely
Christian Hall
Shut up jew.
Oliver Collins
the jew.
Austin Richardson
everything is a scam in america, even the women
Carter Morris
kekking at all these peasants that shill for billionaires for free and will never ever be upper middle class. You guys will be poor - average for your entire lives and will never question why.
Henry Smith
>No matter what extent a cop has to risk themselves This isn't true. SCOTUS ruled that cops do NOT have to take a bullet for you.
Jacob Gonzalez
So you're a tax evader?
Caleb Walker
YOU MOTORBOATIN SUNVAVITCH YOU
Jason Wood
>I like to move the goalposts when proven wrong Yeah. I’ve seen this poorly spelled spam before.
Why would anyone aspire to do more than see out their time on this earth when there's nothing here worth aspiring to?
Congratulations being comfortably well off. The fleeting feeling of power you experience when you holiday to poor brown countries and exert control over the entertainment there will never be the real feeling. If you know why then good for you, keep it quiet and you might experience it one day.
Ian Jones
I’m not moving shit. It’s a stupid counter to say take care of yourself when you can get illnesses and injuries that YOU CANNOT CONTROL AND PREVENT.
Brody Nguyen
You do it's called taxes. Are you 14?
Noah Howard
I mentioned that at the bottom retard
Hunter Miller
>and will never ever be upper middle class. You guys will be poor Untill you get a job that isnt minimum wage, which is easy in america.
Elijah Brown
Pew defines the middle class as those whose annual household income is two-thirds to double the national median, which was $57,617 as of 2016. By that definition, a middle-income three-person household earns about $45,000 to $135,000
Luke Wright
>will never be upper middle class
He’s right. I’m certain you don’t make 120k + a year
Brody Reed
>when there's nothing here worth aspiring to? I think we do have something to aspire to objectively in Christianity. But if you disagree I might mention that you can create your own meaning and give it importance.
>leeting feeling of power you experience when you holiday to poor brown countries and exert control over
I think you're approaching this in that i am a right-winger. I want to make everyone's ''time on this earth'' in a much better way, those poor whites and those poor brown countries.
is it right for thousands of people in our country to be in poverty and use food banks while we have billionaires?
Aiden Thompson
If only people were not pizza eating weed addicted fat diabetes having lazy fucks this would be okay.
Justin Harris
>doesn’t even say “pic unrelated”
Sage goes in all field
Kevin Morales
And I agree.
Landon Flores
>He’s right. I’m certain you don’t make 120k + a year At 21? No. But to say never?
John Roberts
>is it right for thousands of people in our country to be in poverty and use food banks while we have billionaires? Yes, it's called thinking before reproducing.
Juan Wilson
>open thread for giant milkers >nice >close thread
Jeremiah Russell
Shall we trap your family in cyclical poverty for generations? Will you still be saying the same thing? The Waltons appreciate your efforts.
Alexander Moore
Jow Forums is not against universal healthcare. Ben Shapiro is. Forward your argument to him.
Jack King
Oi, you got a loicence for that post?
Jacob Gomez
So poor countries are all human rights abusers? STFU
Grayson Taylor
the question we should be asking is not "how are we gonna pay for free health care" but "how come we don't have free health care already?" The US government spends more money per capita on health care than any other country, and yet health care isn't free for all citizens... for some reason. We're getting royally screwed by the insurance companies and hospitals. >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita
Blake Anderson
That's not accurate. If you do something stupid to require EMS they can and WILL send you the bill. It happens every day. They might even prosecute you.
So now that I have destroyed the thesis of your argument, what else can I do for you today?
EMS is medical services. It is accurate. I mentioned fire fighter and cops only.
Caleb Cruz
YOU CAN PREVENT DEHYDRATION AND THE FLU BY TAKING CARE OF YOURSELF. Idiot. You move the goal posts by stating simple things and moving to incurable diseases. Again, if you don’t like it, move to a socialist country like Venezuela. I’m sure you’re going to be happier. Your endless spam threads here won’t change anything.
I agree with you that it’s fucked. Go chase your tail somewhere else, puppers. You won’t change shit by spam.
James James
>I think we do have something to aspire to objectively in Christianity. But if you disagree I might mention that you can create your own meaning and give it importance. You misunderstand, this existence is restricted. Creating meaning for yourself here would be like aspiring to get really good at riding a bike with stabilisers.
>is it right for thousands of people in our country to be in poverty and use food banks while we have billionaires? Yes and no. When the people are unhappy they should use force to rebalance the power as they see fit. We live in a society where the amount of force that can be mustered by powerful people is wholly out of proportion to the amount of force the people can muster. We're at a point either by accident or design where the only way to rebalance power is to talk it out, only people don't give away their power when confronted with logical arguments for a better society. This means we have to talk really loudly and from positions of power, only the positions of power are bought by the people with power and the methods of speaking really loudly are suppressed with reactive force. Even if we overcame these obstacles the people with power would simply re-demarcate the definition of power by printing money or something, turning all the newly made millionaires in to average people with a loaf of bread costing 10,000 NewCurrencyTM and putting the current powers back to owning the same amount of currency relative to everyone else.
The only solution is to destroy the system and build a new one then either allow the current powerful people to join it, either punitively as poor people/slaves, reasonably as average, powerful as a concession to them not dropping nukes or to rebuke them and let them eat each other over the now worthless currency. Nobody will though, people want to be enslaved because iPhone apps release dopamine apps without having to work for it.
The people will be as oppressed as they deserve to be.
Isaiah Hall
Docotrs arent public sector workers Youre irrelevent anyway
Anyone who cant afford insurance is dead weight that should die sooner and relieve our burden
They exist only to take from the rest of us andnproduce a negative return while siphoning others. Thieves basically Like beaners with no car insurance who drive drunk Literal parasites
Isaac Anderson
Doctors are the jews of professional world. I dropped out of a med school i won a full ride scholarship to once i realised this. Its all so tiresome.
Brandon Cook
Seems like a lot here are
Eli Morales
Pol is against communism Youre all scumbags Fixing the cost of healthcare has nothing to do with nationalizing it and lutting the us government in charge
Mind you the us government is the most evil and wicked institution to ever exist and only preys upon tax money and artificial expansion
At the detriment to every citizen who is owed a just government We have a treasonous government, not a just government
Youre a fucking shill and a cancer on free men so fuck your gay opinion Kys
Caleb Morales
They will make white people pa We already subsidize all others they want it all
Stop giving them power
Logan Foster
Jow Forums is a communist board you fucking retard drumpfie.
Christopher Brooks
I don’t know, man. I cleared 183k last year and I feel decidedly middle class.
Nicholas Nguyen
Smart
Gavin Butler
Tifa’s tits got me through my high school years. This pisses me off.
Carter Lee
Admit it, you dropped out because you were scared of all the loos in the university building.
Juan Watson
Checked. Your thread sucks. Just bumping for dem amazing tiddies.
Hunter Ortiz
>existence is restricted You exist. If you mean what you do is restricted, I will tell you that you are not a God. If you meant that you don't want to create meaning I might suggest the metaphysical meaning that Christianity offers.
Your second paragraph is strange and almost possess self-realisation. Powerful people do have unproportionate force but they will not acceed to 'talking'. The solution is to rebuild a new system to prevent capitalistic inequality, e.g. Socialism. But then you go authoritarian with the whole people must be oppressed nonsense. Can I suggest getting off Jow Forums for a while reading Marxist literature and seeing if that fits in with your idea of a new system?
Parker Wood
>Needing to go to the doctor for a flu or dehydration Gee it's like you're wasting their time.
Aiden Rodriguez
Those were just an example. There’s a thousand reasons you could need an emergency room
Nolan Miller
>You exist. If you mean what you do is restricted, I will tell you that you are not a God. If you meant that you don't want to create meaning I might suggest the metaphysical meaning that Christianity offers. Let's drop this.
>Your second paragraph is strange and almost possess self-realisation. Powerful people do have unproportionate force but they will not acceed to 'talking'. The solution is to rebuild a new system to prevent capitalistic inequality, e.g. Socialism. But then you go authoritarian with the whole people must be oppressed nonsense. Can I suggest getting off Jow Forums for a while reading Marxist literature and seeing if that fits in with your idea of a new system? You're not reading what I wrote. Try it again. And no you can't suggest Marxism, it's retarded.
Zachary Gonzalez
Shut the fuck up. The adults are talking.
Jace Rivera
>he thinks the cops will come save you if you call them Nigga you'll already be dead
Gavin Parker
Haha no, but i will admit after a while i realised it was a very rigged industry in general. Protip, do not donate your body to med schools or labs for science once you die.
Lincoln Carter
Definitely not "thousands of reasons", especially if your best examples were explicitly wastes of everyone's time.
Wyatt Williams
The toilet bowl is coming to get you Pajeet! Better run... The bowl, it wants your soul!
Brandon Walker
>but there’s a bill for thousands when I go to doctor to have myself taken care of from a flu or dehydrated You go to the doctor for a flu or dehydration? Mcfucking end yourself my man.
Adrian Rogers
Bump. .
Charles Myers
Literal CIA glownigger. Do you find it weird reporting to a Mossad agent on this operation or is it just SOP across the board now?
Angel White
America is Mexico 2.0 in 50 years.
Good riddance.
Lincoln Bennett
>i dont have to pay for x y and z Yes you do retard its called taxes, unless you are a fucking rent seeker
Angel Robinson
I mentioned that at the end you retard. Learn to read
Gavin Gonzalez
Well this makes me sad
Aaron Ross
No. We are not using taxpayer funds for your reassignment surgery.
Elijah Torres
>if you directly contributed to any of those on a regular basis then you would thrown in jail or be expected to pay for it. People directly contribute to their poor health every single day to the point where self inflicted illness is one of the largest medical issues,
Liam Hall
Ay
Caleb Reed
why bump it if the thread sucks? you retarded faggot
Hunter Thompson
Your argument is literally just "do the same thing because i said so" Fuck off
Is that a eurogook with a cucked last name? Jesus Christ.
Ayden Scott
Too bad your party will nominate Warren.
Jordan Nelson
@216843191 >le russian bot meme Classy
Jose Hall
taxes pay for them. >be consistent sure. eliminate the AMA, calculate the cost of doing business for medical care, then institute a federal lodge. Fine. But we're not giving unitary demand to the healthcare industry. It's fucking retarded. Not that you understand any of this, you underage brainlet.
Jonathan Evans
>There is no bill when I call cops.... >Secondly when a fire fighter comes and puts the fire at my house with tons of water and numerous salaried firemen
Depends on where you live. Some places in the US you will receive a bill after the incident. Also they will charge you with a crime (negligence) and you will receive a bill from the city/county/state depending on the type of property damage. It's normally at the officials responding to the call discretion to turn it in. Normally it's covered by city/county/state insurance. (Like if you get in a single vehicle accident and take out some guard rail) but the cop can be an asshole or his supervisor can be, or whoever makes the rules can be and make you pay for it. Your house burns and a paid fire department comes in- that is normally covered in your property taxes. You pay a higher property tax than people with volunteer fire departments (my property tax is less than $1000 a year and that is with 6 buildings with roofs on my property (which is how they increase your property tax in my area- how many roofs on a property). I don't have paid firefighters, my schools (that I don't use) are decent in my area, but I still pay those taxes even though I don't utilize that benefit, just like how I don't use free public transportation that is offered to the indigent and elderly with a bus, that goes to the local town every day once a day and paid for with my taxes. On the health care BS you bring up- The US never needed socialized healthcare. We had a working system- Get a decent job (above minimum wage) you will get decent healthcare insurance. If you are indigent, you can get on welfare, which gives you a 100 percent medical insurance. If you are lazy and nothing is wrong with you, then you will not get it. Get your lazy ass out and get a fucking job.
Caleb Russell
Nobody mentioned the Russians you fucking retard. Your post made no sense in relation to the post you were responding to. Stop doing meth while you're on Jow Forums.
Brayden Young
Why stop at healthcare? Why doesn't the government run all food service? You can go to the courthouse and get those government meals. The same ones the prisoners eat.
Angel Hughes
>there’s a bill for thousands when I go to doctor to have myself taken care of from a flu or dehydrated. You answered your own retarded statement by the fact that you ADMITTED YOU USE EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR NON-EMERGENCY USE, YOU RETARDED NIGGER FAGGOT. If you go to the Emergency Room for the flu, the hospital should just put a fucking bullet in you right then and there. You're not going to get a bill for "thousands of dollars" if you just go to a fucking walk-in clinic, shit, if you say "I don't have insurance and can only pay cash, what's the lowest price you can quote me", you can get in and out for about, oh, $50-100 tops.
It's too bad that there are retarded niggerfags like you who don't use proper services AND are too stupid to know how to pay the correct amount for proper treatment. But, the world needs retards, and you're helping fill the quota.
It’s way more expensive to pay for doctors and medicine than it is to pay for blue collar workers and water.
Oliver Lewis
@216843794 We all know the crackpot shit you believe in with bots every time something goes wrong for you, lol Obtain a semblance of reading comprehension to understand my post retard
Hunter Parker
>being this much of a bot in the current year
Ian Hall
GODDAMMIT IS NOTHING FUCKING SACRED!?!?!?! AAARRHRHRHRHR REEEEEEEEEE