Can you dispassionately articulate your thoughts on reparations?

Boss mode: Do it without using racial epithets.

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Blacks already get reparations it’s called welfare.

Forcing people who never owned slaves to pay money to people who were never slaves is a stupid idea.
Also, nigger.

If I could do something to make sure that people who were enslaved in the states were compensated for their oppression I would, I unironically would.
The problem is they are all dead.
Huh? You want me to pay more in taxes just so some people who were never enslaved can have money to blow on weed and air jordans? Oh sweet summer child...

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It doesn't make sense because most peoples' ancestors didn't own slaves. Many peoples' ancestors weren't even in America back then.

For example Trump's paternal grandparents didn't immigrate to the US until the 1880s and his mother didn't immigrate to the US until the 1930s.

If you're in a fight to the death with someone, when you knock them to the ground, you don't help them back up.

At this point black america owes the rest of us a debt they will likely never repay.

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Not an individual who directly suffered under slavery is alive, nor is anyone who held slaves alive

Reparations were already paid with the blood of Confederate and Union soldiers.
Anyone who asks for more than that is a greedy, narcissistic psychopath who deserves nothing.
Besides, blacks are well-suited to hard labor in warm climates. They became slaves in their native countries due to failure and inability. Being under the yoke of the white man has been the best thing that ever happened to them in the 120,000 years africa has had civilization.

You want a guy called Cohen, me no speaky English.

What if a black man turns out to be the descendant of both slaves and slave owners? Is he required to pay himself reparations for the suffering his ancestors inflicted on his ancestors?

Do you have to prove slave ancestry? Real question, I haven't been watching the debates. How many people can actually do this? And if not, does everybody get money then, even the ones that have no ancestors who were slaves? What about people who are mixed race, do they pay money and get money?

niggers are animals and therefore do not deserve money

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It's called buying the black vote.

People who have never owned slaves owe no money to people who have never been slaves.

Niggers

Slavery exists today in other parts of the world. Unironically, the blacks who have the greatest likelihood of deserving slavery reparations are the ones fresh off the boat.

If you can find a living slave or slavemaster you should settle the dispute between them. Otherwise, no one living has any right or obligation in this matter. Only greedy people with a victim complex want it, and only irrational martyrs want to provide it.

360,000 union soldiers died enforcing the emancipation.

I'd say that will was already paid.

In our blood.

Why only the jews ?
Why does the US pressure european countries to give reparations to jews ?
>Polish far-right marches in protest at US pressure for Holocaust restitution
timesofisrael.com/polish-far-right-protests-protests-us-law-on-jewish-holocaust-restitution/
>France agrees Holocaust SNCF rail payout with US
bbc.com/news/world-europe-30351196
You should pay, big time. One man, one paycheck.

If they do it once they'll inevitably do it again. The same people calling for reparations today will later say that the previous reparations were insufficient. It's never-ending.

Just look at the hundreds of billions of dollars in reparations Germany's paid out over the years to the smorgasbord of post-WWII complainants. Every 5-10 years some holocaust memorial group or something comes up and says they need to dole out a few more shekels to make recompense.

I'm speaking within the borders of the United States obviously. People outside the United States can fend for themselves

>be eastern european
>come to america in 1995
>25 years later
>pay reparashuns whitey

You pay what you owe whitoid.
O btw how's that individualism working for you?

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Reparations are only warranted if damages were done. In this case, if the blacks asking for reparations make the argument they would prefer to have not been American citizens.

If this is the argument that is made then I am willing to discuss a cash payment of some amount to be paired with removal from the United States and a surrendering of citizenship permanently.

I'd imagine that this is very likely

This.

But human trafficking is still a thing. There are actual slaves here, they're just hidden in the elites' basements. I'm aware I'm splitting hairs but there are a lot of people saying slavery doesn't exist here today and that's not actually true.

how much do you want?

Why should Latinos be punished by having their tax dollars go to pay for something they had absolutely nothing to do with? You can’t only tax whites to pay for reparations. That would violate the equal protection clause of the constitution. So what valid reason could there be to tax Latinos to pay for reparations?
Wow now I know how Jews feel; turning one group against another

>reparations?
They should be paid by the people that brought them to the Americas, using the same logic they used on us for the FAKE holocaust that never happened to them.

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How much you got?

Kek

Ah, but what do you think the source of that institutional oppression is?

Would you ask a jew to prove he was in a camp ? Do mischling receive reparation ?

Jews, I mean it isn’t complicated to see how policies of the Jews are designed to keep da black man down ya feel me playa?

I’m in the south... there was some serious “pay back” after the civil war. Places were absolutely ransacked of everything of value. Then the carpetbagging Yankees came down and tricked all the blacks and picked off anything of value. In the Charleston area there are many gigantic chunks of land that still belong to some entity in New York... last title transfer from the poor ex slave. The Guggenheim museum owns a few.

who indeed
smart enough to find us
but not smart enough to read

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Without slavery, African Americans would have just been Africans and been worse off in pretty much every way.

In an era where height was more a function of nutrition than genetics, blacks were taller than whites in America - taller than lots of Europeans as well. African slaves were better fed and more literate than Russian peasants during the same time period.

I can see paying it to people who were alive before the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964. Before then it was legal to discriminate against blacks in everything regardless of their merit. Since then, there has been increasing opportunity. Nonetheless, paying reparations will probably piss off at least half of the non-black population some of whom will demand their own reparations. Everybody in this country is already pissed off at everyone else, and I'm not sure how much more anger can be ginned up before we start to see real kinetic activity around here.

Slave owning is African cultural appropriation.

1488% this. They won't be happy until whites are in chains serving them.

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There are a million things wrong with our government and our budget right now. Monetary reparations are virtually impossible for this reason alone, but there are more.

How much money does each individual person receive and how do we determine who gets what? How much money on top of that will be required to create a new bureaucracy that can support all of this?

The lives of American slaves, while obviously atrocious by today's standards, was factually much better than their African contemporaries. How much do we owe the descendants of people removed by over 5 generations from the very end of slavery, many of whom have been the recipients of generous social program specifically designed to benefit African Americans, in addition to being a disproportionate consumers of welfare?

JIM CROW WAS 50 YEARS AGO...10 year old textbook, ghetto living condition, very low wage jobs, substandard living and medically conditions

Nothing really changed. Blacks were more criminal than whites in 1930 and similarly so in 1970. The racial IQ gap didn't narrow. Other than granting blacks access to white spaces and grading them on a curve for employment, nothing really changed.

The source was people's attitudes and feelings, but not slavery. The same people had just lost half a million of their own to free the slaves and end slavery. It was over at that point. The last person who lived as a slave and could even theoretically claim damages (from a disbanded government) as a result of it died many decades ago.

Why should I give them anything? I didnt enslave anyone? No one alive today is a slave, in the same sense as it was back then.

If slave owning is cultural appropriation, how come most countries where slavery is legal are African?
If anything it's cultural exportation, just like Japanese making porn for everyone
Sage goes in all non-national fields

It takes about two generations for a population to bounce back from bad stuff, if there were dramatic improvements to be made from human potential being held back by an oppressive system, we would have seen them. But nothing has really changed in that respect.

American citizenship and the unearned prosperity that comes with it are more than fair payment.

Btw, this guy (Ta-Nehisi Coates) is mandatory reading in public schools and universities here.

>Muh joos

Fine. Let's say it was those sinister Hebrews were behind American slavery. You'd still acknowledge that American slavery existed and had severe repercussions, yes? Just because the Jew did it doesn't mean the black couldn't use help.

It'll get laughed out of court. The Supreme Court already has precedent on the books.

Which case?

You benefited from the torture and rape of my people. You and your decedents will never be able to pay all you owe my people.

Besides punishment for crime, there is not a single case where forcibly taking one person's money and giving it to another person is moral. And collective punishment is never moral.

Not a single jew will pay a dollar, even thought they brought them here. They’ve had plenty of reparations already. We pay them tons of welfare, affirmative action, prison costs, rapes, murders, etc. they’ve gotten their reparations and ru8ned our cities. Even.

So now the goalposts have moved from reparations for the system of slavery to, reparations for incidences of racism in the past? How much do you want for restrictive covenants, blockbusting, etc. And how much longer before every perceived act of racism will need to be redressed? When can the racial disparities between blacks and whites be explained by black inability instead of white malice?

Which is exactly why we're not going to give you something just to be shaken down again. This happened already with affirmative action.

it had severe repercussions for everyone homeboy. it started a fucking war for christ's sake...

What's not moral is stealing people from their lands and beating and lynching them to death.

THE ENTIRE NINETEENTH CENTURY WAS MADE OF COTTON

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It's childish to demand that white people pay black people money for things white people's ancestors did to black people's ancestors. This will do nothing to lessen racism in America and will only help to create more of it.

fpbp from a Dominican. Fuck Haitians btw

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Honest to god, paying reparations gives a lot of whites the ability to abandon the "white guilt" look and move one. Once paid, any white person can take the social media, the streets, etc and loudly exclaim "racism is dead!" and no one on the left will be able to react. If they try to jump on it, it will reveal to any reasonable-minded individual of their true intentions. If reparations doesn't settle all perceived "debts" then nothing will. So they either would have to destroy their movement by outing themselves as greedy and desiring inequality, or their movement will wither on the vine as white people can finally stop being afraid of being called racist.

Tip: this is not a value judgment, but rather a practical consideration. Not saying this is how it "should be" but rather a practical solution

I wish that nigger killed her

Nigger.

Slaves didn't come for free. Their price was already paid to the ones that sold them. Those are the people who should be made to pay it back (i.e. Jews and fellow Africans), with 200 years of interest.

The quantification doesn't matter to them, it's all about the revenge. Just like parasitic barbarian invaders of the past, extorting resources and eventually just killing the 'host' civilization. The difference is now it's all voluntary because Ta Nehisi Coates and nutcases like him are pushed on kids and college students.

Richmond v. JA Croson Co. was referenced during the hearing.

Yes, people who did this should be punished. But they're already dead, and punishing other people in their place is not moral.

It's a civil matter that wants for jurisdiction. If you can substantiate your claim against the progeny of those kikes and find a court to hear your claim, more power to you, Black Man. Ain't got shit to do with whitey, or the U.S.A. but good luck. Come up with a number anf go after that family who wronged your long lost great-great-great-great-great-grand pappy

>implying you have a choice

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you benefited too though? you have benefited from everything the u.s. has ever done to be in the position it is now and that includes slavery of africans as well as the continuous wars around the globe in order to enforce the petrodollar and enforce u.s. hegemony. Also the allowance of the sale of products within the boundaries of the country that have been knowingly created through slave labor, like your nikes. Seriously, don't talk about being pissed off about slavery unless you boycott companies that still willfully use them.

They have already received trillions in social programs. More money will not solve their problems.

It was cultural appropriation for us to own slaves. My apologies for not stating that better.

>Can you dispassionately articulate your thoughts on reparations?

About as dispassionately as I can articulate my thoughts about little green men on the moon.

Why talk about something that doesn't exist and is just made up nonsense?

Ya feeling violence chimp?

I never owned any slaves, and you never picked any cotton. Nigger.

>The quantification doesn't matter to them, it's all about the revenge.

I know. I just want to hear one of these faggoty race hustlers like Tariq Nasheed or Shawn King, or black identitarian politicans like Maxine Waters, Correy Booker, or Kamala Harris, try to worm their way around answering it.

The vast majority of whites here had no involvement in slavery

Done.

Glad you brought this up, classic. You wronged us, we're so hurt, but we're more powerful than you and are gonna take what's ours one way or another!

Anyway, this is why we should ban Ta Nehisi Coates from schools and keep his idiocy out of the minds of our kids and other impressionable low-IQ individuals.

Bout tree fiddy

>black identitarian politicans like Maxine Waters, Correy Booker, or Kamala Harris, try to worm their way around answering it.
They already screwed the pooch. If a reparations candidate gets nominated, it's 1984 all over again.

All I got to say is BLACKED

give it to them. 'reparations' is just ebonics for 'repatriation to africa'

>not knowing how big the textile industry was
You reaped the profits from my peoples torture and used the taxes to build your peoples streets, housing, and infrastructure which you denied my people.

My reason is I don't know own enough stock in the following companies
Cadillac (GM)
Nike,
KFC,
Popeyes,
A company that makes the following items
bongs,
papers,
Brightly colored clothing
etc.
Once I own enough dividend earning stocks in these companies I will be for reparations

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All I know is that I will definitely be submitting an application.

Sure. It's called Liberia. We gave former slaves a chance to go back home and what did they do? Copied the Constitution, enslaved their own people, ran the country into the ground, and are now nothing more than a cannibalistic sect with an American looking flag. Blacks are the majority holder of welfare recipients and are a net negative, both in societal perception and economic growth. Furthermore, programs such as affirmative action make it so that non-whites have a huge leg up in college admission, and HR teams relish the opportunity to fill a diversity hiring quota. Therefore, I believe that blacks have had every opportunity given to them to get themselves back on their feet, and have instead thrown those opportunities away for a lifestyle of degeneracy on the tax-payers dime. The Chinese were slaves, and have become one of the most prominent nations in the world. See Empire of Dust. Also niggers stink.

>the 120,000 years Africa has had civilization.

Is this a typo?