Refute this

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Which one would you like me to refute?

>sperm is fertilized egg

I don’t know why they don’t just admit abortion is murder. Just say, “yes it is murder and no we do not care” because that’s the fact of the matter.

>what is conception

What's to refute? None of the points made apply to any of the underlying legal principals which brought about legalized abortion to begin with. It's a series of nonsequiters that show the OP both doesn't understand the dynamics behind Roe, Casey or Whole Women's Health, and demonstrates her intention to argue in bad faith. Further proof that Twitter is not home to measured and thoughtful discussion, but low-effort fast food grade drive-by shitposting. Shame on you for bringing that nonsense here

Roasties literally can't biology
sperm =/= fertilized egg

>Male masturbation is genocide
Fetuses contain all the human DNA, sperm only contains 1/2 of it. How on Earth do you come up with such a ridiculous strawman?
>Blowjobs are cannibalism
Only if you bite down.
>Ultrasounds are child pornography
Only if you're intentionally looking at it for sexual pleasure, which obviously people don't do. By this logic, David by Michelangelo is also porn.
>Male vasectomies and condoms prevent homicide
The man isn't the one carrying the fetus, it's not his responsibility to not kill it.
>Viagra and Cialis are the 2 most dangerous drugs on the market
I don't know. Are those morning after pills?
>Men must start paying child support at 6 weeks
If married: Obviously no such thing as child support
If not married: I agree. We should punish people, men and women alike, for promiscuous behavior.

Except semen contains just one gamete. When anti-abortionists claim that life begins at conception, they're referring to the fusion of two gametes.

With that said, masturbation is wrong and blowjobs are cannibalism.

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>Adetoye Haastrup

no thanks.

I actually have seen someone admit that they would still be prochoice even if they believed it was murder.

>gamete =/= zygote
bam. job done.

Refute this: if abortion isn't murder then cannibalism isn't murder, and stabbing someone isn't murder

>a sperm is the same as a fertilized egg or even a fully-developed embryo

>ultrasounds are child pornography
>pornography
>hypersexed.jpg

>refute this
Nigger.

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>Being this much of a religious zealot
Where's anti-religious communist action when you need it?

If women werent whores who fuck and get pregnant while not married you would have half of the problems

>image of a naked human is pornography
>using a condom is not the same as masturbation

Only abortion is the destruction of a genetically unique creature.

Where did I mention religion in my post?

I hate british posters so goddamn much.

They do not care enough about the subject to take a rational, problem-solving, spiritually male approach to it. What they care about is how they are perceived by others and have an emotional, virtue-signaling, spiritually female approach to the question.

>valuing human life is religious zealotry
>anti religious communist action
It’s in NatSoc rallies where revolutionaries oppose the church of liberalism and socialism

It's not about the physical manifestation of life, it is the act of two consenting adults having sex, knowing it may very well result in the creation of life and taking responsibility for it.

I don't masturbate tho, so i don't care

You and your large cranial capacity have little reason to be here. I’m naturally suspicious.

Yeah, your idiotic sexual beliefs totally were not influenced by your religious upbringing. Don't be a fucking idiot.

Beside that forced vasectomies would be violating my free will so they cant do that

>Values human life
>Supports Capitalism
That's rich, dude

ok, menstruation is genocide too while we're at it

Why is Jow Forums the only board with meme flags?

What is Jewish subversion?

It's not a human until an egg is fertilised. How is this not obvious?
But BJ are unironically cannibalism though.

full disclosure: adderall and studying for the bar. Gonna be shitposting hard for the next 24-36 hours.

The Bible doesn't specifically even condemn abortion.
I don't oppose abortion because the Bible said so (it doesn't say so), I oppose it because it's common sense.

>Supports communism.
>Starves.
That's rich, dude.

If you leave your sperm in the balls for 9 months it does not become a functional human being.

>Somehow periods are not on this list

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>speaks on behalf of human life
>communism

You're not supposed to value ALL life just because, you cuckold. You're supposed to only value life that values itself. People who fail under capitalism don't value themselves. Thus they deserve no sympathy or support. Now move out of your mother's basement.

Also
>Values
>Support
>Rich

Word. Same here on the former. Best of luck.

It's just a sperm, bro!
This is a poor analogy. It implies that time and growth of a being doesn't modify its physical, legal, ethical, or philosophical state. Kind of akin to: "Gathering acorns is deforestation"; "Burning firewood is destroying a house"; etc.

It takes a particularly disingenuous individual to suggest that something specifically important isn't occurring when the sperm meets the egg. Not saying that makes a "human," but it is certainly an important moment in the process of one becoming human. Just as gaining one's own heartbeat is significant. Just as passing through the birth canal is significant.

Every standard that pro-choice people apply isn't inconsistent or hypocritical. "The fetus isn't viable." Well, neither is a baby. "The fetus takes resources from the mother." Well, so does a baby, or a grown child, or the government. "The fetus is a parasite." Well, so is a puppy. But I bet that a crime is being committed if you took a piece of metal, scrambled a puppy's brains through the top of its skull, and then vacuumed up its corpse.

Promiscuity is bad though.

>Pro Abortion (murdering unborn children)
>Pro Vasectomy (male neutering)
>Pro Homosexuality (you can't procreate via sodomy)
>Pro Transsexuality (genital mutilation)
>Pro Hedonistic Materialization of Sex (children become an existential cost and a burden instead of a blessing)
>Pro Demographic Replacement (ethnic suicide)
Daily reminder that leftist are genetic dead ends and left-wing ideology is a death cult whose endgame results in antinatalism. Do not tolerate these defected individuals and do not allow them to push their degenerate faggotry as they attempt to bring down the rest of society with them.

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Thanks user! I'm sure I'll need it.

She’s right, nofap is the only way

What is the definition of being alive.
It sure as fuck doesn't take self-awareness.
Usually a heartbeat, maybe some blood pumping.

Wait.. a heart beat... so if we stop a baby that has a beating heart from being able to live... isn't that... oh I'm sorry that's choosing to be a cunt instead of a parent.

What you're saying doesn't really make sense either if what you're saying was even true. If you're smart enough to figure out he's smart and thus agree with him, you shouldn't need to be here either. But even if that's wrong, and he's smart, you nor him should need an excuse for why he's here. What I'm saying is that it's clear there are other reasons someone of either stature want to be here, and that the premise of your question is not founded well, AND that you should have been able to figure it out yourself, all at the same time. You had the tools.

Based and GODpilled
Everyone in support of these things needs to be wiped the fuck out
we are dealing with demons here

It's so retarded, what's the point.

>masturbation is genocide
>but protected sex or pregnancy prevention isn't.


Wymin logic everyone

Should really listen to this guy

Somebody needs some serious deep dicking!

Well you could call it Justified Murder. Because that is a thing, for example self-defense.

>sperm is equivalent to a baby with a heartbeat

I'm not even religious, I just can't stand leftist pushing antinatalist bullshit. Also people automatically assuming that you are a bible thumper because you don't want to murder unborn children is pretty fucking retarded and gets annoying.

I don't hold these opinions because some kike on a stick told me to, I hold these opinions because building an ideology around weakness, depravity and rottenness that will result in death is fucking stupid.

>negress thinks sperm and zygotes are the same thing
>negress thinks anatomical diagrams are porn
this is why they never made the wheel

And anyone with your mindset is a dead end. Did you see god anywhere in that posting?

> Not being this retarded folks, not hard.

>Should really listen to this guy
The post isn't from him, it's my personal observations. I just thought the quote was a good match. George Lincoln Rockwell has a lot of good reads, if you ever get the time.

>blowjobs are cannibalism.
That's like saying swallowing your spit is cannibalism

Will take it under advisement.
But always had similar thoughts. Look at simple productive lines of humanity, the instant the family name lands on a non-reproductive spot... well shit that's done for.

No one sees this and instead demands respect for self destruction.

logic

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>support human life
>communism
Yeah sure dude, your failed ideology sure did value humans. Just like chinkoids value dogs.

Easy.
>a single sperm cell is not a unique or new individual as it carries only the male's DNA. At the moment of conception a new and unique DNA is created that has never existed before and will never exist again, and unlike sperm, it will develop into a fully functional and autonomous infant unless interfered with
>see above
>medical examinations are not pornography. Are you really this stupid?
>all vasectomies are male, first off. And if you mean they prevent abortion, then yes
>no, because sex using birth control does not necessarily result in pregnancy, though it always carries a degree of risk that both participants knowingly accept
>men should only have equal parental responsibility if they have equal parental rights

the irony

>Condoms prevent homicide.
Woman logic.
If you use common sense to avoid a bad outcome this is the equivalent of banning that outcome.
Sounds like victim blaming to me.

> men should be paying child support at 6 weeks.
Yes they should, it’s called marriage you dirty sloot.

>No one sees this and instead demands respect for self destruction.
It's just natural selection is progress and those individuals will be weeded out. The issue isn't that they exist (they always will), it's that they abuse altruism and push their shit on everyone else.

A lone homosexual degenerate deciding to reject the gift of eternal life for a life of hdeonism by performing perverted sex acts with another consenting homosexual degenerate in privacy isn't a problem.

Having a society that worships this sick perversion and uses the political, corporate and cultural means to indoctrinate and push this sick ideology on non-genetic dead ends is a major problem. These people need to be shut down.

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It’s not that. It’s more like just admit women are fucking degenerate slurs that want to fuck without consequences.

male sperm without a female egg does not mean life, only combined they constitute life.

ultrasound is a medical procedure, according to this logic any pediatrician would commit pedophile acts but only sexual acts with children is pedophilia.
Married mothers dont need child support.Thats only something to out of wedlock born children.And its no wonder why a black women would thing in terms of gibs concering a pregnancy.

SLIDE THREAD

why can't I hold all these false equivalences?

- sperm inseminates egg u fag
- see above
- nonsense
- only if u r negro
- nonsense
- no child support until you incur actual costs, receipts required bitch

Sperm is a component, womens eggs are a component. Only when they are put together and the sperm enters the egg is life started, at this point unless you take action it will grow into a human.

Sperm does nothing on its own.

You are completely retarded. Sperm is not a full DNA cell. Help humanity, kys.

>Conflating gametes with zygotes

The ultrasound one, is only porn if you masturbate

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Life begins at conception. Fucking idiot

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>Be you
>Go on the fucked up part of the internet
>Find a video of a kid literally getting fucked
>Download it
>Get arrested
>"But I didn't masturbate to it, so it wasn't porn!"

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1.Sperm doesn't turn into people
2. see 1
3.Not all nude children is pornography, see: 1978 superman
4. see 1
5. see 1
6. Of course it's a nigger

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Sure thing OP.
Murder involves diploid cells, not haploid cells.

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>Where's anti-religious communist action when you need it?
They're busy cooking rats with grass salad because they're starving, commie scum

>condoms prevent homicide
That goes against the logic behind the first two. Also is menstruation manslaughter?

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>non sequitur
>(logic) a conclusion that does not follow from the premises

Cletus, grab the pliers, some cows got out of our fence!

I'm pro choice and honestly think its fine if women want to abandon their rat children to die too or have them terminated by injection or something. Single motherhood should be eradicated it would lower the crime rate significantly desu.

Since when does a single sperm cell grow into a human being?

woah.. so this is the power... of prochoice intellectualism

>Sperm cells =/= a fetus.
>see above. Alternatively, only if you swallow.
>nudity =/= pornography. Ex: Nude subject photos in medical textbooks aren't considered pornography.
>to the extent that they prevent abortions, I agree with this point
>How many unplanned pregnancies can we attribute to viagra and cialis?
>men shouldn't abandon their unborn children, this wouldn't bother me.