What is Jow Forums‘s stance on student loan forgiveness?

What is Jow Forums‘s stance on student loan forgiveness?

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Fuck the bankers, cancel them

Impossible pipe dream used to get votes.

Imagine forgiving mortgages, or credit card debt. The debt you..as a full cognizant and legal adult..accumulate is an asset to the company you owe it to. They have taken their on hand capital, and invested in you on your word that you would make them a return. Just as if they had invested in the stock market, except this return is supposed to be guaranteed. After all, you are the guarantor and gave your legally binding word.
If you do not pay it, their investment has crashed. They lose that operating capital forever. You have intentionally taken their money. There is $1 trillion in monies loaned out to students. Asking America's financial institutions to give away $1 trillion, is not going to happen. Ever. They wont give away 1 trillion dollars.

Because they don't loan out their own personal money. They loan out the money that people have invested in them--the savings accounts and money in checking accounts and certificates or from the interest they have paid in mortgages and car loans. They took my savings and let you use it, on your say so that you would pay it back to me through them. Banks don't use their own money to loan out. Banks don't have much money of their own. They use my money, and user's money and user's money. And they have to pay that back to us when we demand it, using the money that you are paying back to them.

For an illustration how this actually works, go watch the 'bank run' scene from 'Its a Wonderful Life', a 1946 American movie starring Jimmy Stewart and Olivia de Haviland. As you will note, the Savings and Loan did not keep money on hand to pay the shareholders who suddenly demand their deposits. It loaned out Mrs. Jones' savings to Manny to buy his truck, and Mr. Green's deposits were loaned out to Mr and Mrs Migillicutty to buy their house.

The depositors like you and me are the ones who loaned the students money (THROUGH) the bank. The bank can't 'forgive' away our $.

bullshit - it does nothing to address the rising costs of education. it's feel-good gibs for DINO voters

pol's stance is you need a ban for slide thread posting

Schools, up to and including public k12 schools need to go.

(((they))) don't need any more usurious interest. Cancel the debt

yes also all higher education should be free.

This would be easy without the shekelsteins

On one side I hate bankers and most of all the fed
On the other I want niggers and my fellow zoomers so I - with no student debt - can accumulate wealth faster

People go to college for the sole purpose of getting a job when they get out, I’m upto 100k in debt and I’m going to be an engineer
I will be able to pay it off in the next 5 or 6 years and since I’m doing a coop I will be making money to start paying off immediately after, also I will most likely get a job when I get out

well only if you test into it and make passing grades. pay teachers a little more and watch a cottage industry arise

>higher education should be free
Being a college student with the right degree guarantees that you will be making money when you get out, pay to get payed

Go work for a shit company for 4-5 years. Boom. Nearly free degree.

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so i have like 5k in student loans and my grace period ends in 5 months. i have 35k in savings so i can easily pay them off now. but im wondering if i should pay them slowly in case we get a president who cancels them

It's spit in the face of responsible people who did not borrow more than they could pay. Make the loans dischargeable with bankruptcy, like other loans.

if i get the money i paid back then sure
but we all know thats not gonna happn so these idiots can get fucked
im much more interested in dealing with the shitheads who let an 18 year old take out 100k in unbankruptable denbt than the idiots who fell for it

First stop giving out the loans, then forgive them. It turns out having an entire generation in debt is extremely bad, imagine my shock.

Forgive them. those loans are fraudulent anyways

unironically in favor of it
>oy vey, you can declare bankruptcy but those student loans have to stay put!

forgive credit card debts and mortgages nao.
>I just have a few building complexes, about 79 million CHF worth of mortgages left on
wtf, I love socialism nao. Go Hernie !

Kind of bullshit since I would’ve went to school if I knew I wouldn’t have to pay off huge loans.
The whole scholastic system needs a reform. Cheap or free college is going to put huge stresses on community college infrastructures, which will be more prone to becoming adult daycares, while jacking up the prices of private schools.

I’d like the ability to clear them with bankruptcy, but they’re in so deep already. The strain of people getting locked out of the market from a mass declaration of bankruptcy will have a pretty large effect.
Maybe the cost shouldn’t be so high in the first place. Why is it?

state contributions to college funding has dropped a lot since ~1980-1990

And those that worked hard and payed off their loans? This is BS. And you know it.

Usury is a sin.

How about we just make it more stringent for people to get a loan. maybe then the cost of tuition will go down and the quality of education up.

Only if we dont have to pay them off in taxes. I'll 100% approve if the jew lenders get fucked over it.

Even if all the debt was erased.... what jobs are available to college kids? Service economy just needs mouth breathers

Because the loans are guaranteed by the federal government. You're giving status-hungry teens unlimited buying power and so vendors (colleges) have no incentive to compete on cost and every incentive to raise prices.

You get a year of study preparation after finishing highschool where you extensively dig into what you will actually study, what prospects you will have and you get to have several test courses.

First study program until masters will be free. 2nd the state takes 50%. the 3rd one you have to pay entirely yourself.

It doesnt bother me but it's never going to happen, it's just a talking point for politicians

No it shouldn't. You've obviously not engaged much with the modern student who starts all kinds of courses, quits in the middle and becomes an eternal student on the states bill.

>People go to college for the sole purpose of getting a job when they get out

That's what smart people do. Dumb people do it for the "experience" or to become "educated."

If the principal was already paid off and all was left was interest to pay, then yes it should be forgiven.

retarded, if you get into crippling debt which you can't pay off because you chose a shitty major, you deserve to die of hunger

Eliminate interest, fix the dollar supply, eliminate student loans and college subsidies altogether, let debtors pay off the remaining principal.

if you are retarded enough to take a big loan and think university teaches you "skills" then you deserve to be in debt for life

first stop the student loan program. Once this is done we can talk about forgiveness

>if I knew I wouldn’t have to pay off huge loans.
You literally never did. Get an income based repayment plan.

>Maybe the cost shouldn’t be so high in the first place. Why is it?
Too many people studying. Honestly when gen Z comes along and starts going less to universities they will start getting nervous. Plus, in studies it has been shown they are more cautious with money. And being cautious means they won't choose just the most prestigious university, they will start thinking of ways to spend less.

What would the fallout be if student loans were forgiven? Aside from people having spend free money to institutions which probably deserve to die.

Who are the student loans owed and how would it impact the US? We already know that the current monetary system is bullshit, where it creates value out of thin air and the FED gives the banks a free pass to scam everybody.

FUCK NO. Not one penny. I want to see these stupid arrogant little fucks suffer their entire lives.

>jews and banksters get btfo
>usury btfo
>young white baby-making-age working class is liberated from their jewish slave-debt burden and can get to starting families, thus saving the white race

Cancel all of the debt. fuck jews.

that's a lot of kvetching
>oy vey don't liberate the goyim from their debt slavery
>th-think about the poor banks
GET REKT
this kills the jew

You should at the every least be able to get out of it through bankruptcy or allow everyone, not just graduates to refinance student loans for lower interest.

I was a dumb 18 year old who didn't know what I was getting myself into. A lot of shit happened in life and I ended up dropping out.

Don't care because I got a free ride based on academic performance. People who had to take out loans to get a degree deserve to be in debt for being poor students.

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Cost of education is so high because the government hands out loans to just about anybody with absolutely retarded terms.

If the government did not hand out student loans, college cost would have gone up with inflation. Forget "forgiving student loans", we need to get rid of them completely

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It's more like useful degrees are subsidizing useless ones. Everyone needs to take a bunch of bs humanities ect classes to graduate.

>FUCK NO. Not one penny. I want to see these stupid arrogant little fucks suffer their entire lives.
>t.boomer

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It would fucking obliterate the economy, badly hurting normal whitd people while at worst inconveniencing rich jews.

I paid for college without issue within the last decade because I'm not retarded.

Sounds to me like it's the bank's fucking problem then, isn't it? They loaned out money that wasn't theirs on an investment nobody but them had a say in. If they can't pay up, then they go down.

Student loans are fraud, because you are buying our own signature. The money only exists because of your signature. It's just computer money that is willed into "existence" by the signature. Same goes for CPS. When you call CPS on some neighbor for letting their kid play, CPS gets nonexistent money to play with. Fiat currency incentivizes insane debts and legalized child trafficking. Abolish both.

Sadly yes, universities should make bachelor degrees be 2-3 years.

Student loan forgiveness wouldn't mean canceling them. It would most likely mean the gov pays them off.

sage'd, don't bump slider threads guys

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Well fuck that too. Why should my taxes go to subsidize four year vacations taken by lazy retards?

Fuck no.

What should happen is the government penalizing or banning all predatory forms of loans and limiting how much interest they can charge. That also means when you take out a school loan, you are only taking out the amount for school, nothing extra. If you want play money, get a fucking part time job.

All forms of school loans should be heavily scrutinized. For any private loan, there should be a form of oversight.

Alternate things should be pushed such as trade school. In 11th grade, all teenagers should have a glass that teaches you how various loans work, balancing your money, prioritization, resume writing, etc. The shit you need to know as an adult.

Pay your fucking BILL white niggers!!!

that's retarded and the opposite of what would happen you groundless kike

burgerstan will sell out its own youth to protect its precious bankers from facing justice.

Not wanting to repay money you borrowed is kike behavior.

I got a scholarship and graduated college debt-free. Where’s my government handout for being responsible?

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False promise to sucker in young libs that will never happen because Jews thrive on debt slavery.

Are you white?

outsourcing jobs for shareholder dividends and stock buybacks is jewbag kike spigger schemes

Yes

>mandate that people have a degree to get an entry level job so employers can jew out of needing to provide training
>pad these degrees out with bullshit courses so it takes 4 years instead of 1-2
>inflate the price 10x because you have a racket going
>saddle young intelligent productive white men and women with a lifetime of debt at profit-gouging interest rates of ~8% when inflation is 3%
>clearly setting it up to bleed an entire generation for all they're good for to support kike parasitism

>someone suggest the debt be wiped
>kvetch harder than a cockroach under the heel of a shoe that your scheme has had light shone on it and you will get invited to die in a roach motel
>deprived of his bloodstained shekels, the kike lets out a dying moan of agony
>y-you were the real kikes all along!

GET. ABSOLUTELY. FUCKING. REKT. YOUR SCHEME IS UP AND IT IS TIME TO REMOVE THE INFESTATION.

universities do teach skills unless you major in gender appreciation with a minor in drama and basket weaving. who are you kidding?

FUCK NO. I went to a trade school, paid my tuition fully out of pocket, and will be making $50/hr when I get my Journeymans license here in Minnesota. I want the fucking retarded sheep that followed the crowd and got retarded degrees to suffer. The more people that are inhibited by their own shitty decisions the better. Don't absolve them of the shit they knowingly took on, and teach millions not taking responsibility for their actions is A-ok

You don't need a handout. You were born with the correct skin color to win at life.

>mandate that people have a degree to get an entry level job
No you don't, you're just a workshy retard who refuses to do anything but sit at a desk. Two thirds of people don't have a bachelors, do you think they just fon't work? You also don't have to take out loans if you go in state and work during school or summer, especially if you got a scholarship. I was responsible and graduated with zero debt, and I refuse to spend even a nickel of my taxes on the lazy retards who refused to take their future seriously.

Colleges are NOT meant for people to go and learn communication skills let alone politics, they are for science and infrastructure, they are for math and engineers, the only people who should go to college are those who want to be engineers or doctors, that is why people pay to go to college, if you do anything else you aren’t taking full advantage of the school

I support the idea 100%

More money that I get to keep.

Thank you for not being retarded. You and I will be called kikes for not wanting to bail out millions of mouth breathers, but stand strong. These people deserve nothing.

t. seething shitskin
We live in one of the most anti-white countries on Earth

Bankruptcy, not forgiveness. Connotations matter.

>nobody but them had a say in
>except the signer who put his legal, adult, binding signature on the fine print paperwork, agreeing to all terms, of his own free will and volition, full agency, and being of sound mind and body. Its called a contract.

Im not gonna pay back my student loans anyways, so I don't really care.

no. never. fuck them and fuck tyrome for asking for reparations. die in a trash fire

You “forgot” to mention that you lived at home and therefore didn’t need to pay bills. Dime a dozen.

>retarded sheep
>will work labor entire life
fucking retard enjoy having a master with trade job till you die

I'm more of a peanut butter hue than shit.

Only in cases where the person has a useful degree (nursing, counselor, therapist, etc.) and they move to work in a remote community then they can have their debt forgiven based on how long they spent in the community. Other than that, no way.
Also, universities need to be forced to absorb some of the debt risk.

No I didn't.

You agreed to repay it. Do it you faggot.

He probably will enjoy it

She Niggers already get too much free shit. Give them this and they will come right back with general loan forgiveness. Not to mention that the banks will just recoup it with another tax on white men. Student loans should only exist for productive degrees anyway. Destroying white privilege and the patriarchy through slam poetry shouldn't be state funded.

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Debt free, not sitting at a desk, making good money, doing what I enjoy. SEETHING

Yeah, I knew you’d say that.

>loving jews this much

How would children get indoctrinated into larger society? They need the bell schedule, lunch line and forced assignments if there ever going to make it as a wage slave golem. How could we take this away from them?

>Also, universities need to be forced to absorb some of the debt risk.

Fucking this. At least half. They would be producing a lot less baristas with masters in feminist studies if they had to absorb the cost for them being fucking useless to society. They would probably be teaching a lot less of this garbage as well.

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It's trillions of dollars and will one day destroy the economy due to accumulated interest
Fuck the bankers, end the loans or make more affordable ways to pay back, like community service hours

It's just more wealth distribution, people take out private loans and the government covers the cost when they bail. It means the tax payers are picking up the bill.

How about I take out a loan on a brand new sports car and people pay that off for me? No?

Yet another case of “What works for me will work for everyone,” and if it doesn’t it’s due to a moral failing, character flaw, retard, etc, ad nauseam. Shill hubs aren’t sending their best, but this board is full of “useful” idiots besides. I may want an end to Phoenician rule but that doesn’t make me a patriotic cocksmoker.

Cool it buster

Does it stop federally guaranteed student loans to unis? No? Then it doesn’t solve the problem.

Who are you “people”? Income based repayment. It’s a thing since 2009.

My fucking gods.

>think of the banks goy

are americans for fucking real? you want banks to teach kids social and financial responsibility?