I've recently come into conflict with my personal beliefs of White Nationalism and Christianity after reading "The Turner Diaries" and I was wondering how other White Nationalist Christians view the two.
I know that they can be mutually compatible, but when I look around me at this world I know that a lot of blood needs to be spilled in order for white (European) people to carve out their own respective nationstates again.
Also, the idea that other races, especially and specifically negros, can be saved. Any and all views, opinions, facts, and bible verses are welcomed.
I would like to make a clear point though, which is, this isn't me renouncing my faith, but simply asking how other anons reconcile the two.
Christanity bans murder, not killing in war for your own. The old testament is in no little part the tale of hebrews taking a land and keeping it, even if it meant war. The Babel tower people were scattered into many nations by divine decree. Different people, each owning its own clay. And fighting if required. Simple as that.
Henry Rodriguez
Alrighty. So basically the same exact views I have.
What about Africans? Do you think that they can be saved?
Jason Price
You dirty mother fucker. How dare you speak to me like that.
God isn't real you idiot. At least the one your make believe book speaks of. Open your third eye.
Jason Thompson
Stop shitposting. I'm trying to have an actual discussion here.
>Actual discussion. Shit nigga, you came to the wrong place. Go to Reddit for that.
Jason Wilson
Maybe. But as for every being, it's on them. A christian must spread the Word, it is up to each man, by the freedom of choice given by God, responsability coming with it, to have faith or not.
Nolan Walker
bump
Andrew Thomas
I don't care about them. Why should someone be worried about saving beasts?
Save Afrikaans? Nigga we toat you cracks how to bafe in 1714 when you evolved from cave mens. Da black man didn’t evolve so we don’t need you to safe us
Daniel Rivera
Why is your skin pink and unable to handle sun rays? Why did you not evolve correctly?
Lucas Miller
What are your personal views my German friend?
Aaron Martin
FUCK YOU
Brody Butler
You have no obligation in this matter. The gospels are to be said. If some of them listen and believe, good for them. But i would add that, aside biblical metaphors, such as Babel, Gods plan and rule are also enforced by physics and biology. And here comes the problem: Nothing guarranties that abos or africans, that can legitimaly considered as "other" are really men or have a soul. For my part, i have my doubts.
Daniel Perry
Personally I think that it's limited to VERY few and even many whites suffer from lacking a soul, that is to say, that they're without much in the ways of spirituality and they have difficulty, if no ability at all, to connecting to a higher power. Considering East Asians, I personally believe that while they might lack a soul on an individual level, their race and assorted ethnicities have collective souls.
Humanity as a word has lost all of its meaning. There is no such thing as the human race, and because of this, the word is empty. I wonder the etymology of such a word.
Jew suing the name Yeshua which means "May his name be blotted out" in Yiddish
His name is Yahshua which means Yahweh saves
Adam Morris
Pacifism is unchristian. All souls can be saved. Most won't be.
And let's be honest, you think tyrone the gangbanger has a good shot at going to heaven? Seriously?
Also: All Americans are retarded idiots.
Brandon Morris
You're shitting on DooM with that jesus figurine.
Jace Scott
Mmm. Interesting. Yes, you bring here a valid argument. The NPCs may be a kind of human in appearance only.
Christian Lopez
I'm stuck between Traditional Catholic and Eastern Orthodox. Can someone explain how ethnonationalist and christianity can coexist?
Chase Roberts
>Can someone explain how ethnonationalist and christianity can coexist? It did for the last 2 millenia, what's your problem, except being an idiot of course?
Nicholas Cox
I'm not talking about pacifism. I'm talking about Christianity and White Nationalism.
>gangbanger being saved By my personal view, Africans cannot be saved. It's just that even if you preach the word to them, they'll still behave as beasts because they are just that.
>Americans are retarded I blame our education system, fluoridated water, and constant bombardment of propaganda.
Each ethnicity has their own specific and unique ways of worshipping Christ. Also, see in respect to the Tower of Babel and God's view of nations.
You may find answer in above posts. Also, i am not sure any church is legitimate anymore. Most of them differ a lot from the words of gospel. You do not need a priest or a temple. Only a community and faith.
Kevin Harris
Medieval Christianty, pre-schism. Look at Alfred the Great and early England. Fuck the unbelievers, Europeans are God's chosen people, etcetc
Juan Green
My personal view - christcuckery is a desert doomsday cult and cosmopolitan sect of Judaism, not ethnic European religion. Furthermore it allowed Jewish usury while forbidding Christians starting money lending businesses - this is the reason why (((they))) control banking. Without christcuckery Jews would be some gypsy-tier nation with no real power.
Asher Perry
>I'm not talking about pacifism. I'm talking about Christianity and White Nationalism. And why? You know basically all Nazis were Christians, right?
Jonathan Martinez
Only Jews talk like that, though.
Lucas Hall
>explain >share opinions and views
It's alright. English isn't your first language.
I know for an absolute fact that at least one high ranking member (Himmler) absolutely detested Christianity. I'm not so sure on the others. That's great. I don't care though. I'm not renouncing my faith.
>I know for an absolute fact that at least one high ranking member (Himmler) absolutely detested Christianity. I'm not so sure on the others. American education. You're not even disagreeing, just being a retard.
Rosenberg got BTFO for his anti-Christianism.
Xavier Evans
christianity is literally just a jewish tool OP, i recently realized this
Julian Edwards
American Nationalism is where its at. The people that have arrived in the last 30 years aern't American. They can all mostly be sent home as far as I'm concerned if they wish to start shit. Which they do!
Jose Roberts
>only Jews are against Jewish subversions sure thing buddy
whatever, but in my opinion christcuckery is not compatible because when christcucks have to choose between Europe and religion they almost always choose their shitty desert cult.
Are you sure it was only his views on Christianity?
I won't disagree with something that I'm not completely sure about, save for Himmler. Hitler has so much disinformation out there about him it's sometimes difficult to discern fact from fiction.
>last 30 years aern't American Try since 1965, for the most part. Jews and nonwhites need to go.
I don't believe that. It's been perverted and subverted, but the religion, from a dogmatic standpoint is completely sound in my eyes.
With the tower of babel I was told God punished the people for trying to reach heaven, not coming together as one, thus supporting globalism. Thoughts?
Samuel Wood
>because when christcucks have to choose between Europe and religion they almost always choose their shitty desert cult. This, see
Christian Rivera
I ask you a question: why did he scatter them to distant lands to make their own?
I think the key point about white nationalism is that we need to achieve independence from other races, being able to meet our race's needs on our own, without the need to import cheap labor to essentially act as serfs and slaves for us. Jews and liberals want us to be as dependent on other races as possible, but I say if we can'r meet a need or desire, we should either find a better way or learn to make do without it. We can still collaborate with other races, but the key is that we don't depend on them; each race should be the master of it's own destiny.
I don't see why blacks couldn't be saved. The belief I've seen from a lot of them has been quite admirable.
Elijah Johnson
>One persons view means that they're all race traitors.
you're right the 1965 Immigration Act against White people in their own Country. I bet if we spent some time looking who wrote it and those that pushed it, that we wouldn't be surprized.
When it comes down to it, I simply don't care about other races. Mybe they can be saved, and I'm wrong in thinking that they can't, but I don't give a damn about them.
Yes yes yes. I know. I'm very aware of what happened. Don't forget that whites are complicit in this too though. Pic related.
I'm not sure, maybe just a form of punishment? Did he really want us separated? I struggle with this because I'm an Agnostic with despair/existentialism seeking spiritual healing, but if Christianity means we must all come together and racemix, I can't support it. So I struggle.
Jayden Collins
Actually I think white people as a whole never wanted that shit. Its kikes and anti Whites and anti Christains and Satanists that pushed it.
>implying teaching blacks to he christians is even possible. Christ came for his flock. Thats clearly stated. Not Cainites. Not Canaanites. Not Edomites. Not even the Jews that turned their backs on God. What makes you think trying to convert beasts of the field into christians is what God or Christ intended? What about whites here that are starving or homeless who really need help? The Man Child epidemic? The 15 year olds who are massive sluts? The divorce rates? Nah, he wanted us to go teach niggers in Africa, despite the fact that we have to go back every year and reteach it.
>By my personal view, Africans cannot be saved. It's just that even if you preach the word to them, they'll still behave as beasts because they are just that
Search for Cardinal Sarah on youtube. He's really based and I'd even prefer him as a pope to Freemason-Francis. You'll find a clip where he rightly says that Europeans are killing themselves if they lose touch with their roots and keep importing foreigners. So I'd say even Africans can be saved, they just have it harder since they seriously lack logos. It is not our responsibility though, we gave them the word, now they have to understand it. Before I went through a certain rebirth-event I could not really understand the faith even if I tried. Something like this has to happen to them collectively as well.
>I know for an absolute fact that at least one high ranking member (Himmler) absolutely detested Christianity. I'm not so sure on the others.
Yeah Himmler was an esoteric kook but he was mostly alone with this. Most members of the NS government were protestants, a few catholics from Bavaria as well I guess.
Ryan Baker
Who?
Samuel Green
I don't care about them. They don't belong in Europe, nor America. I say leave them in their desert to fight and kill Jews.
Christianity doesn't mean racemix. It's about loving yourself. If you loved yourself, if you loved God, would you pervert his creation with race mixing?
>They don't belong in Europe, nor America Why does one desert cult belong but another doesn't? A European Muslim is no different than a European Christian.
Nolan Scott
>anti Whites and anti Christains and Satanists that pushed it. Those people can still be white. That's my point.
Leo Wood
>(Himmler)
Himmler was a narcissist occult faggot. A man of God telling me some thing is no good but look the wind just churned up and a bolt stroked the sky. Satan is speaking to me!
>A European Muslim is no different than a European Christian. That's called apples to oranges user. Don't be disingenuous.
Hitler himself was one of those Bavarian Catholics, at least raised. Again, this isn't me saying he wasn't, I just need to read Mein Kampf. I have the Stalag Edition here and wanna get around to reading it soon.
We are sons of Japheth. It is our place to take the tents of Shem and to enslave the hammites. Do not forget God separated the races, commanded the slaughter of the canaanites, and rejected the Jews numerous times. Not to mention Judaism is in direct violation of God's will as he took us from Eden so we would not seek the tree of life, while Judaism seeks to interpret and use the tree of life.
Leo Reed
Individuals can all accept Christ but just because they do doesn’t mean Africa will become a place worth living in nor does it mean we should be neighbors
Parker Stewart
We are also the 13 Tribe of Israel. Dan Tribe Danube River run threw Europe. Cats out of the bag nigga!!!
Tuatha de Danann... Notice the Dan Danish, Den-Mark. Gene testings shows too White are more related and as a singular race than thought before because of our great color variations and spectrum diversity.
Yield to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what is God's.
Jayden Ortiz
>The Babel tower people were scattered into many nations by divine decree. Different people, each owning its own clay. And fighting if required. Simple as that. IF you actually read the entire thing you would know that the tower of Babel was destroyed because the human race was of one people a default. We are all as ONE according to the bible. Do you understand this? You know when people say "we are the race the human race!" that is basically what the bible is saying. However what happened was that they were trying to get to God not because God said that he needed separate lands you fucking tard. So the default what is it? It is one people the human race under one banner. Once you go to heaven you will be connected or at least be together with all non-white christians.
The mental gymanstics you have to go through to think that christianity is an ethnonationalist religion is fucking batshit insane. You people are above the tier of leftist mental gymnastics just absolutely in fucking sane.
You dont believe in the true God the father if you think anyone is out of his reach. Only the devil is incapable of saving someone. God is capable of saving all niggers doesnt mean he will. Just remember the niggers are less susceptible to peer pressure than whites which is why the kikes targeted them first, they werr harder to pull away from Christ and once they are its harder to get them back on the path.
Be wary of the white nationalism, white is a jew construct just like black. There are plenty of people who look white who will use it to stab you in the back if you think this way.
>By my personal view, Africans cannot be saved. It's just that even if you preach the word to them, they'll still behave as beasts because they are just that.
Oh and here we go! OP is just a christkike making up garbage threads trying to push his agenda. Great fucking job.
>behave as beasts because they are just that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_the_Centurion >The baptism of Cornelius is an important event in the history of the early Christian church, along with the conversion and baptism of the Ethiopian eunuch. The Christian church was first formed around the original disciples and followers of Jesus, all of whom were Jewish. All males in that community were circumcised and observed the Law of Moses. The reception of Cornelius sparked a conversation among the Jewish leaders of the new Christian church, culminating in the decision to allow Gentiles to become Christians without conforming to Jewish requirements for circumcision, as recounted in Acts 15(Acts 15).
Jesus disciple literally baptized a black in the bible > And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. >And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of ETHIOPIA, an eunuch >Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. >And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. Acts 8: 27 - 39
And all of them followed his "practical advice" there, and acted like NatSoc officials. Some SS divisions had up to 90% of their recruits leave their churches before joining, and their manuals openly decried christianity, in the same manner as socialism. The churches had a long emnity with the NSDAP and even propped up militant groups like "The White Rose", due to things like opposing eugenics, in the middle of the war, effectively siding with the Rothschilds and the Soviets over the European people.
Thousands of priests were executed during "Kirchenkampf": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf and several generals formely associated with Political Christianity (which Hitler shunned) associated with acts of treason, like Paulus and the Abwehr military intelligence, being part of the "Schwarze Kapelle" who spied for the allies...
Pretty damn simple. Scripture does not stop one from maintaining a homogeneous homeland It does forbid you from murdering, but deportations aren't murder, so what's your fucking conflict? Do you want to go gun down thousands of shitskins?
Owen Morgan
God ordered all things. A Christian doesn't disturb other Christians. Doesn't cause them trouble. Doesn't try and guilt trip them. In their house he follows their ways with respect. Doesn't attack them but strives for peace. Different nations can honor Christ in their own ways.
Alexander Clark
If a woman acted like a woman to me at this point (honest marriage material) I might accept a black woman just because all the White ones are busted and I'm older so they don't want to breed but dark woman probably do.
I'm O Neg so the child even dark would probably come out O Neg but they would have a split in the Gene code perhaps if they breed with a +Blood. Idk the scientific out come of that but Rh -Blood must be strong in certain ways when its male Rh- to a female Rh+ Where the opposite naturally the Rh- females body will reject the fetus naturally.
I just read your meme. It's all completely false save for the fact that the Apostles and Jesus were jews.
They were not, that's why he scattered them into different nations. Because the English word of nation is corrupted doesn't mean it isn't in other languages. nation is many other languages is interchangeable with something like the more distinct word ethnicity in English.
If you would read through the thread instead of reeing I am not completely against the possibility of africans being saved. Instead you just start going on about christcuck this and chirstcuck that. Half the reason I started this thread was because I solidify my views from discussion with others.
I'm O negative too. Any interesting material to send my way?
Oh look more garbage cope. >Different nations can honor Christ in their own ways. They are still worshiping a foreign god by a foreign people. You don't seem to understand where culture comes from. When you go enforce or bring your invading ideology in you are impacting another culture there race. You like 99% of all christkikes don't understand race = culture. Then telling people they must base there cultural values ontop of a foreign religion but but IMA NATIONALIST! Fuck off you are no better then what niggers are doing to europe or the US. > Doesn't attack them but strives for peace ah yes so much fucking PEACE. All those brother wars against other christkikes and white brothers because they wouldnt believe in some fucking jew.
Carter Lopez
>when I look around me at this world I know that a lot of blood needs to be spilled in order for white (European) people to carve out their own respective nationstates again.
oy thats racist! back to reading about josephs' wife's son; that will get you in the right mindset.
Camden Lewis
5th column in the Reich by the sounds of it.
Luis Jones
>They were not, that's why he scattered them into different nations. They absolutely were of one people of the HUMAN RACE. Thats the point the reason he changed all of them was because the human race was trying to get to fucking God you dumb fuckhead. Also you were asking questions. Why are you telling me how christianity works if you don't even know. Just more proof you are nothing but a false flagging dumb dumb. >thread was because I solidify my views from discussion with others. This isn't Jow Forums its off-topic garbage from some brain dead jew worshiper.
Noah Miller
We were condition, trained, and programmed and told a narrative to be race traitors essentially from birth. Lets be honest and blacks have a term for theirs. They are called Toms
We know multi-racial societies lower trust, charity and other Christian virtues, therefore it is something to be avoided if possible. And those who try to push it are trouble makers.
Jacob Flores
Pagan Europe was so peaceful too. Wew. Angry that Varg got kicked off youtube?
Sixty-eight ancient skeletons, unearthed at Jerusalem and En Gedi and, according to the archeological data belonging to Jewish residents of these places from about 1,600 to 2,000 years ago, were ABO-typed by means of the hemagglutination-inhibition test. The blood groups of 13 skeletons were undiagnosable and the remaining 55 showed the following distribution: 30.91% A-group, 14.54% B-group, 50.91% AB-group and 3.64% O-group. According to these findings, the population to which these skeletons belonged must have had a high frequency of genes IA and IB, and a low occurrence of O blood group and its related IO gene.
Your raving shows you are letting emotion guide your argument.
Isaac Clark
Many Hebrews are Christian more than the false Yids. This is FACT!
Ryan Moore
>Pagan Europe was so peaceful too. There is a major difference between Waring over lands to warring over religious bullshit. This is why many higher IQ individuals don't even bother arguing with you. Who the fuck would see," BELIEVE IN MY JEWISH INTERPRETATION OR DIE!" to "GIVE ME THAT LAND, GOODS, AND FOOD FOR MY PEOPLE OR DIE!" as something comparable? You are fucking insane. >Wew. Angry that Varg got kicked off youtube? aaah yes! We get right down to it! The more angrier you get the harder it is for your larp to continue. You just HAVE to attack Varg. Even though I could care less. You are a weak weak person if you can't handle someone being compassionate about what they speak about. I guess you would absolutely HATE Hitler. They are both the same. Brother Nathaniel is a jew and yet hes a BASED CHRISTIAN!
By the way Christianity is not universalist, nor utopianist as some people like to claim and then draw comparisons to Communism. Although the ideal is that every human being on earth is a believer, this cannot come into being. Just like the most honorable saint still was a sinner. The worldly cannot be healed, cannot be perfected, it'll always have a balanced, neutral disposition. Only God himself, when he revealed himself to us in the flesh as Jesus Christ was without sin and thus perfect.
Even the book of revelation says that God's kingdom will not come by man's deed but by the Lord exacting judgment and saving man from himself.
Christian White
Kek. You're just reeing.
>SHILL SHILL SHILL
Pathetic.
And way to sidestep. Christian or Pagan, Europeans have been fighting each other for a long time.