Property tax is theft. Where can I OWN land?

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Create your own floating island.
youtube.com/watch?v=GnLhWpy_nqI

Sounds expensive.

Is there anywhere?

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Same here, but you won't be able to own land without taxes in any western nation. It's impossible, unless you can single handedly fight off police

You could declare your own independent country but good luck getting it recognized/not invaded.

wherever someone else doesn't try to take it from you

Ruby ridge doesn't give me much hope.

People are sheep.

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This. Ownership is sovereignty, territory is jurisdiction.

Her name is Pristine Edge and it's incest porn... :/

Is there anywhere?
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You mean anywhere you can truly own for yourself, without violence? I don't know. Other planets, maybe.

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You'd still have to conquer the environment of that planet and then stop hobos from Earth trying to use your land as a base for terraforming.

The government the second you stop paying property taxes.

Well, if you could find a planet the Earth hobos don't know about you might have a while without having to fight them. But yes, once they know and can reach you, violence is inevitable.

They are using doublespeak. Property tax is obviously rent. The reason they use the doublespeak is because the government doesn't recognize you vacating the property until you find a new tenant to replace you.

Forgot to add: the new tenant also customarily pays a security deposit, which is used to refund YOUR security deposit, but you don't get to keep the whole thing, some goes back to the landlord.

and wage labour is slavery.

>obviously rent.
renters cant do whatever the fuck they want
owners can - depending on where and within regulations.

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Pristine Edge in one of the incest series

Fuck off commie leaf

Wage labor isn't slavery, it's selling a part of your life for tokens that you then trade for the fruits of other people's lives

Owners can't do shit. Want to build an annex? Better get permission first lol. So much is regulated that there is barely any difference between renting and owning other than the opportunity to ask for permission in the first place.

Isn't there a loophole for farm land?

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Farmland is taxed less but that's is far as I know regarding any loopholes.

That's why the US has the 4th Amendment — if the true owner (Uncle Sam) is going to put in some property modification, better give the tenant some of his rent back.

I heard Norway doesn´t raise property tax.

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> Wage labor isn't slavery, it's selling a part of your life for tokens that you then trade for the fruits of other people's lives

Then property tax is paying rent to the government to take care of the infrastructure and the state in order make modern society possible.

here I guess.. I own a small sized farm; no property taxes

>do whatever the fuck they want
>owners can - depending on where and within regulations.
Do you not see how this makes no sense

>taxed less
Really? What about subsidies?

This is false

Will buy ring for that if reciprocal in half of duties.....

That's where your wrong bucko. Well maybe you're right about your gay island, but in the US it is still possible to own land, most people have (((voluntarily))) givin up their right to land ownership, but it's still possible through land patents and allodial titles.

No, it isn't.

You still pay taxes every year.

You don't own anything goyim.

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Property tax is less pozzed than (((income tax))). Paying for a local court house and fire service is tolerable. Paying to subsidize retards and invaders is not.

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I don't own land. People who do own land do not have to pay property taxes and are not subject to eminent domain.

Lol. You wish. You can't escape the rule of USA law even down to the most trivial bullshit. You guys have to pay even to have your citizenship revoked. True slaves.

How do your rights compare?

>cory chase and her husband's studio
Literal garbage

I'm not an American that unnecessarily hates on Europe, but you're a goddamn fool if you think it's any better in the UK. The US may be much closer to to being lost demographically, but rights-wise the US is in a much better situation than Europe.

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Almost as shit in every regard. You can't actually own land on Earth.

you cant OWN anything on this planet as long as you dont have the power to defend it by pure force

I just watched Red River with John Wayne and he says this exactly.

>Then property tax is paying rent to the government
Yes
>to take care of the infrastructure and the state in order make modern society possible.
Lel, no, government is going to spend it on dumb shit like abortions for Stacey and bombs to drop on Mohammed to get a "good goy" from Shlomo. But it doesn't matter. Landlord could spend all the rent on cocaine and hookers, if you don't like it, evict yourself (pic related).

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“owning” land is theft retard.

All tax is theft, nobody owes shit, nobody is even in control of their own spirit, let alone all things physical.

If you want to own something, you have to fight to get it, and you have to fight to keep it, the question that follows; "Is it worth trouble?"

If the world is ever going to change, it is because people can finally face their own position in life. Untill you recognize your fate as that on of a slave, no matter how much shit you think to own, you are your patrolling your own prison cell as you are happy to do so.

Finally someone gets it

Land patents are USA law. They grant all rights of the land indefinitely to the asignee and his heirs in perpetuity. They aren't issued anymore, but they are still around and when they were issued they were signed by the President. People have beaten emminent domain and property tax claims in court because land patents grant full ownership of the land and are not subject to rent.

>just spend thousands in court instead of paying taxes

You can not own anything as in any "things". You can only call something truly your own if it cannot be taken from you. Your biggest prize is your spirit, your own mind, all the thoughts it carries and all the memories it harbours. Experiential knowledge is the truest of possesions.

>whatever the fuck they want
>within regulations
you dont own, you are owned

>you cant sue the government for court costs

What about way out in Alaska?

What is a patent? I know what it is as it is explained, but what is it really?

I can get myself an archive and fill it with documents, as long as i have to force to exercise my "rights", your "rights" are subject to mind.

Copyrights are the biggest joke of all time, and it is maintained because it is backed by power.

You can if you have the power.

How can you people not understand the mechanics behind all formalities?

>you cant OWN anything on this planet as long as you dont have the power to defend it by pure force
redpilled

>Your biggest prize is your spirit, your own mind, all the thoughts it carries and all the memories it harbours. Experiential knowledge is the truest of possesions.
bluepilled

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Nothing is owned, things are only used.

It's a legal document that proves ownership. Ultimately, you're right that force is the only guarantee of rights, which is why the Founders of the USA included the 2nd amendment in the constitution. That being said, it is still possible to win in court with proof of land ownership.

Perhaps I can interest you with purchasing prime real estate on Mars?

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For now. Enjoy it while it last.
Stable governments will always use the stability to grow until they get so heavy instability reoccur and the people revolt

>You never owned the things that were stolen from you
The cope of the self-cucked

How do you not understand that land patents are US law and beat all claims to the land in court, meaning that the force defending the land ownership is the force of the government through the court ruling.

The only way is through feudalism or anarchy.
The HRE doesn't exist anymore so you'll have to destroy the government if you want to own land.

Anywhere you can get away from and defend yourself against, someone else's protection racket.

Ad valorem Tax is not in de jure a tax on property, but has become so in de facto for most Americans. Some Americans are competent enough to do their own paper work and own clear allodial title to their land, without signing estate over to the state as usufruct.

Thomas Jefferson.

Slander of our God given rights by a red coat pig.

Slander and treason and extortion, you are the one to go to jail.

All you stupid submissive fags go read Genesis, Jefferson and Locke and the thousand years of real estate history to this point. That is the truth, not your beta male assumptions. I had to listen to that stuff my whole life from incompetent losers whom can't read. My real estate text books and lawyers carefully tip toe around this stuff and wouldn't dare make the statements made here or they would be in prison.

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Did you type this with your own hands? Cause i dont think their yours to keep, every arm and every head is merely waiting to be severed.

Maybe you will find out defending "your things" by pure force.

Death is imminent, and it has your name on it, because it is one of those things you wish to avoid, but it is in your possession.

You should learn to understand what in life is truly yours to call your own.

>purchase
Heck no, let's go with old West rules. First ones there can have as much as they want, if you can build a barbed wire fence all around it

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Finally someone who knows what they are talking about.

dude. reading list please

Listen faggot, you don't have a military, so you can't defend yourself. You need to pay the military money to defend you. So shut the fuck up.

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Its not "legal", its just a document. You are wrong as there are no garantees, as such nothing is owned, things are only used.

Everything is temporal.

The court is merely a relative system within a absolute system, like a soccer game has its rules but still has to obey the natural laws. There are internal elements that can be used in your favor, as such there are external elements that can be used in your favor. Understand that every system has built in a means to survive, as such any system is stacked against you whenever you oppose it in any form whatsoever.

Everything is subjective when it comes to understanding the world of rules and regulations we have created amongst ourselves.

This is pretty much true.

However, private security forces are indeed a very real thing today at this very second.

So it’s possible in a non fiat world where people’s wealth and savings truly builds wealth and labour is rewarded not degraded.

Communities and friends would likely band together to fund security needs.

Based and forcepilled

Not to mention that anyone or group with aggressive actions would quickly get Murked as that’s against the NAP. Many independent security forces would then come down on you from insurers, personal, perhaps collective, etc.. etc..

>muh allodial titles
eminent domain
checkmate faggot

Self-cuckery is decieving yourself to see things differently from what they are. You will always be a slave, for freedom is oppression to you.

>Property taxes are the only taxes
Go back to highschool retard

The amount of physical force is limited, it's better to have the sheep run away from a bark then having to bite each and every one of them.

Woof!

designate your land a corporation

>Slander of our God given rights by a red coat pig.
He isn't wrong though. If you don't pay property taxes you lose the land. It never really belongs to you.

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Property tax is theft, I agree, and people with no property keep voting for even higher property taxes

t. Landowner

Kek that's a fake headline right?

There are tax exempt plots such as cemeteries. Find one and plop a trailer on it

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Hey, it worked for Sealand

I thought of that when I was typing it but decided Sealand isn't technically land.

I like this...

>its not yours untill others say it is.

Wonderful, humanity in a nutshell.

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In my state the agricultural programs allow you to place your property in conservation status where you arent allowed to split it up and sell it for residential purposes for like 10 years but you pay almost no taxes. Taxes on a thousand acres of ag property are less than a residential acre.

What if it is fake? What if it is real? What if it is genuine but untrue? What if it is deceptive and truthful?

You are asking a yes or no question, but it does not deserve a yes or no answer.

We'll see how long it takes for the jews to take our minds from us too. Tech marches onward steadily to dystopia.

Dunno if its the angle, but that eye spacing is giving me an uncanny valley vibe.

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