Why are young men having so much trouble talking and courting girls in their generation...

cause playing vidya alone in my moms basement is better than pussy

No, because I said almost exclusively, not exclusively

wrong, im just not that social and i dont see chasing after women a worthwhile goal

i want an older lady

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Kek the worse is that it's true

because white western women rate 80% of males as unattractive and thus are only chase 20% of men, they are also hypergamous and jewish puppets

men have also retreated into fantasy with video games and thus do not have adequate social skills

It's only white men who are missing out because white women have discovered the joy of BBC.

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Women have been trained to be hyper liberal and expect a Disney prince. Even moreso than men, women see themselves as princesses and anything other than total social, financial, and sexual satisfaction as settling. Hence why every liberal couple cucks.

Women no longer need to depend on men for financial stability, so they can have kids with top tier males without much fear. In the past, if you had a kid out of wedlock you and your children would live in poverty, so they were forced to settle for genetically inferior men.

This.

Not to mention women can utterly ruin your life and destroy your children with the help of family court. There is no pain like not being allowed to bond and raise your own children as you watch them be turned into someone's toy for vanity and self amusement. And give them 50% of your take home income to do so. If you are lucky she wont raise them to despise you and your family.

milf single moms are the solution to the incel crisis

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If you’re attractive, you don’t have to chase after women

Lol, is that a fact?

My main hobbies don't include women and the few single women I do meet are unattractive land whales.

>trouble
False. Getting a girl to sleep with you is easy. But it's unrewarding and there's no reason. With no commitment and no children it's just a temporary, unproductive endorphin release. It's a lot of time and money for little return. Women simply aren't that interesting.

Well most men dont have a problem finding a woman

>Washington Post

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Know how I know you’re a woman? Tits or gtfo

>courting

why do people on Jow Forums use dated words like courting, breeding and seed?

The sexual market is broken. Some men decided to check out early and some were unable to adapt. Men lose in their teens and 20s. Women lose in their 30s and up. Society loses as a whole.

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yes it is

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>Does porn give them false ideas of what sex and women are like?
yes

The best girls are in the countrysides, a bit away from town, many of them still have this feminity of the past.

Well that's what the original post was about you stupid faggot, so obviously people are going to be discussing that here. Fuckin' idiot.

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>Know how I know you’re a woman?
Please tell me

dumbass

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who dis

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30% does not equal most
and that implies everyone is trying

im average looking, its just that im not specially skilled in social events, dont really get social clues and generally dont share interests with most people so i dont try

>does porn give false ideas?
I'd say not really, given what women confess to doing. The reality is women are so toxic and frustrating to deal with that it ruins any desire to date them. Not to mention practically refuse or bitch endlessly if you want them to do anything feminine or helpful.
At this point women don't provide anything a male roommate wouldn't provide with less drama, except for sex. But the sex can honestly be equaled by a halfway decent doll, and most of the time the drama outweighs the quality of the sex.
They don't cook, they don't clean, they don't generally give a fuck how you're doing. Their generally disloyal and practically refuse to have kids or raise them.

Lots of autists. For instance, my mind can’t wrap around the idea of enjoying a conversation with a girl but I can enjoy conversations with men.

Other men seem to be fine having conversations with women so there must be something going on in my head. Unless everyone is just lying and don’t enjoy talking to women like me. If that’s the case I’m too autistic to play along and I don’t really want to be liked for acting like something other than my autistic self.

> boomer dating advice: just go up to her, look her in the eye, and ask for a date. Its what i did! Dont forget to give her a firm handshake as well.

Checked.
I can't wait.

Personally, I'm not the man I want to be therefore I don't dare show my weakling boyish physique and psyche to a woman. By my own standards, I'm not worthy of having a woman.

>like riding a bike in a hanger covered in puss.

lol mate, men will pretend and say whatever they think women want to hear, and they're too thick that they believe it.

See all the blokes complimenting women on their tattoos? They're disgusted inside, but do it purely for the chance at the wet hole.

Don't see how they're "driving the decline in sex". Women are still fucking at the same rate as they always have. The question is, who? If a shitload of blokes now aren't.

They must all be fucking the same blokes.

When I was in New York, a guy from our group met a burger girl and brought her to us. She was attractive but looked barely human. Dead eyes, layers and layers of makeup. We were just chilling in our room planning what movie we wanted to see at iMax.

She just kind off forced her into our conversation and demanded we change our plan and go out with her. She had the one guy already and he wanted to go out with her but she wanted us all to start orbiting her.

If 75% of your women are obese and the other 25% have such an inflated ego... ouch

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jodi west

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>Women are still fucking at the same rate as they always have
Look at the chart
The no sex rate has gone up for women two just at a slower rate

What happened in 96-98?

just say youre rich, works for me.

Yeah that’s what I’ve suspected but I don’t understand how anyone does that and has any sense of dignity and self respect afterwards. I think it’s shameful to hide yourself from people.

Adolescents who habitually fapped to early interenet porn turned 18 and entered the surveyed age group.

Unless you somehow get a cute "autistic" mommy gf that is average looking (relatively rare, only met 3 in my life), you have to make due with the average western white women. Not worth the time anymore. They are either spoiled as fuck and dumb or bossy as fuck but "smart". Neither of them can cook a simple meal like Spaghetti with Bolognese sauce or some good soup or chili. They either eat convenience food all day or order take out. I met one who was not even able to heat up a frozen pizza without burning it. It is crazy out there.

sounds like me

most think that they deserve a millionaire because that's what they see online. they think buying Gucci and a mansion is standard.

I’d only bother for procreation purposes, and seeing as how the authority figures I trusted when I as naive talked me into going to college and get a degree that is 3000% overpriced thus crippling me with debt for years, it’s gonna be rather tough to pull off.

>they have been brainwashed into thinking they'll matter more in the workplace

there is some truth to this. Some career women seem completely confused that men don't place any value on a woman's career and earnings. They are making the mistake of thinking men evaluate mates by the same economic criteria women use.

I don't know, maybe because the Jews hyperinflated the fiat currency so much that an hour of labor can't buy dinner at FUCKING TACO BELL

BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS GET FOOD AND HEALTHCARE FREE

IT'S WHITE REPLACEMENT

CAUCASIANS ARE THE RIGHTFUL SONS OF THE GREEK GODS

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Gee, I fucking wonder why?

>women today are not only tolerated, but encouraged by society to be complete whores
>spend their prime years partying and sleeping around, ruining their pairbonding capabilities and being spoiled
>women are only attracted to the top 20% of men they find desirable
>men have to meet an entire book's worth of a list of criteria in order for the average woman to even consider dating him, unless he's majorly rich in which case it'll end up being a shallow loveless relationship likely ending in divorce and the man losing well over half his money
>even if a man is able to obtain a relationship by jumping through the countless hoops a woman puts up, he still has to continue to deal with her shit tests, drama, baggage, emotional blackmail, and countless other bullshit, but he can't give in to every demand of hers or else she'll view him as weak and likely leave him

I could go on and on, honestly. I've been through so much of this shit myself, and it gets to be more frustrating than it's worth. Suffice it to say, the dating world is fucked especially here in the west. I long for the day we can start putting women in their places again, cause that's probably the only solution at this point.

more for me, fucking faggots

It's too much hassle man. Constant texting and dramas. No one wants that.

There are several contributing factors, and the worst outcome for a young today is:

>born to a mother and father
>parents divorce
>raised by a single mother who half-coddled and over-indulges him, half uses him as an outlet for her depression and resentment
>his feelings for women then are a mixture of:
>1. Yearning (love of being coddled)
>2. Fear (fearing mother's overblown aggressive emotional outbursts)
>3. Resentment (mother's inability to calmly deal with her problems, and instead using him as an emotional outlet)
>4. Over-respectfulness (observing mother's depression and financial struggles leading to unwillingness to tease or be assertive around women)
>in his teens he becomes a "soft", shy boy who acts relatively feminine
>lack of a father figure means his natural boisterousness is expressed in the form of arrogance, lack of respect for authority, brattyness and over-compensation
>remains a virgin through teens
>treats women with a mixture of utmost respect and care and private resentment
>can't find a girlfriend so turns to porn
>existing isolation and aforementioned yearning means his imagination runs loose and he invests heavily in self-pleasure at the expense of forming bonds IRL
>never reaches those transformative milestones that turn a boy into a man (first date, first relationship, first sexual experience, first mature relationship of sharing an apartment, planning a future)
>ends up a virgin in his late 20s
>no paternal pressure means he still drifts by as a mommy's boy manchild, still rather feminine despite attempts to appear otherwise, very likely to lead a short-term orientated, isolated and unstable lifestyle
>dating someone his age seems absurd considering how assertive and confident women his age seem
>girls in general are moving on in their careers or are working similar entry-level, or low-responsibility jobs as him and seeking a more ambitious, mature and experienced man
>he loses hope, semi-commits to "checking out" of society

>texting
This. Texting is a fucking chore and women expect you to do it constantly

women aren't worth pursuing because our generation watched the men around us get ruined by cunts who used the state to take them for half they were worth in some cases 10 + years of their lives and children away.

>talking and courting girls
Neither of those things are involved in having sex

Agreed, and I'd also add in social media. Social media is one of the worst things to ever happen to humankind.

even a 2/10 landwhale requires a male model that works out 5 days a week and makes $1 mill+ a year, not worth it

And there's an 80% chance you aren't attractive

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both of you are just faggots
if she is not sex texting you just ignore it
tell her she is boring you

where have you been, under a rock? either that or your an old shit. social media has made dating undesirable for any thinking man, modern women are undatable due to their constant need of attention and things to do. it has always been this way but things like instagram/snapchat have made it worst. your best option is to pump and dump them, not worth the time, energy and effort it takes to keep a modern women "happy". once you find out she will never be "happy" no matter what you won't fucking care, and treat whores how they are supposed to be treated

trips speak truth

I just don't know how.
There's a girl I even kind of like at work but I just have no idea how to approach women and ask them out.

what if i dont have a smartphone and barely use the stupid phone i own

I am attractive but I just ignore WAHEM
Subversion is already complete

80% of men are left with the bottom 10% of uggo women.

women crave attention, like small children, if you mention she is boring you and she likes you she will do whatever to get your attention.

I'm a sperg and relate completely fren

>If 75% of your women are obese and the other 25% have such an inflated ego...
Now imagine the overlap. A fucking beluga with bodyhair and eyeliner told by hundreds of other uggos on tumblr that "she slayin'" thinks its entitled to date "REAL MEN"

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>if you mention she is boring you
id never do that cause it sounds mean

when I still watched porn, I decimated my meat rocket to her

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I find only grandparents ever seem to listen to any concerns I have.

My parents ignore me, and my generation couldn't give a shit because posting 100 selfies online.

We hate boomers, butboomers are the only ones that will take the time to listen

No one cares what a fatty thinks tho. They might as well not exist for men

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there there bong friend. life is what you make of it. find a cutie 18 year old and proceed to plow Fren. its your only option.

while true, they still like making noise and causing trouble for all the men who passively reject them. we need to gas the fats

>it sounds mean
grow some balls
life isn't about being nice all the time

Traditional Catholicism + EthnoNationalism = A beautiful, nondegenerate people and creates a better life for everyone.

The real pivot point was the great recession. At least that's what the graph looks like.

Based, Oliver.

Good one Oliver

Stop it, I haven't reached my twenties so my story isn't set in stone yet.

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Quantitative easing has inflated house prices. They cant afford to move out.
Living with parents = involuntary celibacy.

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This is the thing.
American women don’t understand how objectively ugly they are. They don’t compensate with personality, since those are usually shittier than their looks.

No, women are passed around the top guys like parties favours (being a cumdump is empowering). Hence the majority of guys arent getting any. On the bright side though, lots of miserable alpha widows and bitter single moms to laugh at.

>women no longer need to depend on men for financial stability
You need to looking into who is and who is not a net contributor of taxes before making that retarded argument again. Protip: women still live on a mans dime.