Yea , I’m voting for Bernie

Yea , I’m voting for Bernie

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Bernie is only running as a spoiler to get retard college kids invested in the election again. Anybody who seriously still supports him after he cucked to Hillary has no spine and no brain.

Shalom!

2019 US Congress jews (1.4% of the US population)

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Senate

Tammy Baldwin (D)
Bernie Sanders (I)
Ron Wyden (D)
Chuck Schumer (D)
Jacky Rosen (D)
Ben Cardin (D)
Chris Van Hollen (D)
Richard Blumenthal (D)
Dianne Feinstein (D)

House

Adam Schiff (D)
Brad Sherman (D)
Pete Aguilar (D)
Alan Lownethal (D)
Mike Levin (D)
Susan Davis (D)
Ed Perlmutter (D)
Bill Posey (R)
Lois Frankel (D)
Ted Deutch (D)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D)
Jan Schakowsky (D)
Brad Schneider (D)
Abby Finkenaur (D)
John Yarmuth (D)
Jamie Raskin (D)
Elissa Slotkin (D)
Andy Levin (D)
Dean Phillips (D)
Josh Gottheimer (D)
Lee Zeldin (R)
Jerrold Nadler (D)
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D)
Max Rose (D)
Eliot Engel (D)
Nita Lowey (D)
Suzanne Bonamici (D)
David Cicilline (D)
David Kustoff (R)
Steve Cohen (D)
Elaine Luria (D)
Kim Schrier (D)

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Stupid nigger, young Democrats don't matter

They never did

And trump supporters are uneducated bootlicking boomer retard cucks who unironically vote against their own economic interests

How is paying for niggers to learn about a peanut farmer in my economic interests? Buy your own shit you sniveling twat.

Killing niggers, spics, fags and commie fucks are in my interest.

me too

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I have mixed feelings.

On the one hand millennials were lied to by everyone and told that they needed to go to college.

On the other hand they made the decision to take out these ridiculous student loans as adults and they should be punished for their poor decision making.

I think both the liars that pushed the college meme and the millennials that fell for the lie should be punished.

Saved $2000 last year thanks to Trump faggot. Same for this year.

I’ll vote for Bernie just because he’s a Jew and Jews are smart, that’s why they run stuff. Also the $315,000 of Dental School Debt I have to start paying off soon.

College needs to be destroyed, not propped up with bullshit like this.

Sounds like you vote against your own economic interests Cletus

I'm not, because I'm not paying more taxes so you faggots can bail out on your loans.
EVERY PLAN Bernie has just destroys the middle class further. You liberal retards love the rich, because you know you can't actually tax them, and that I'll be the guy who foots the bill.
It's why I want every liberal faggot like you dead at this point, you're all too stupid to live any longer.

>leftists
>economic interests
The only "economic interests" leftist faggots have is to take from others so they can avoid working for it. Kill yourself, and please, never ever procreate (not that I really need to say this to a leftist whose dick doesn't even work, but I'll say it anyway).

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Yeah never mind the working poor, the prison population, or the rampant homelessness crisis. Fuck, even the fictional infrastructure plan Trump came up with is a better idea than this.

What america needs is to bail out upper middle class nitwits (who coincidentally are more likely to vote than any of those actually disadvantaged groups).

Its bullshit that student loans can't be gotten rid of through bankruptcy, and that the federal government backs the loans. But close those loopholes and let the people who made bad investments file for bankruptcy like everyone else.

Otherwise this is just the blatant buying of entitlements that will further destroy the democracy.

A guarantee of work is an obligation to work.

Ask the soviets how they weighted that against the other human rights.

hmmm

>high student debt
>economy lags
>more people need aid

yea man, fuck education

>A guarantee of work is an obligation to work.
A guarantee is an obligation for one party, not the other.

i see the problem you dont know what a right is

Forgiving the debt does nothing to fix the college price fixing going on. Maybe laws going after colleges for their manipulative pricing, marketing and price fixing would actually do something to fix the problem.

You bail out the dumbass students who took hundreds of thousands out and the next wave of dumbass students will go and take out loans all the same. Dissolve liberal arts programs, subsidize colleges that actually provide educations for the things the US needs.

why do you assume its "liberal arts programs" - these are probably the cheapest degrees

Have you ever looked at pricing for colleges? My college charges $30 less per credit hour than they do for Graduate level pharmD courses. Go look at Oberlin's pricing per credit hour. STEM courses should cost more, but Liberal Arts programs shouldn't be funded by federal loans.

That's how it would work with ethical leaders.

But when you've established a kleptocracy as your first order, not much else can be trusted after that. The traditional rules of law, property,
and contract were destroyed by the revolution.

Socialism claims to eliminate privation and property. Instead it converts all assets of society, including the populace, into public goods managed by totalitarian bureaucrats.

All healthcare is of high quality if it is illegal to complain about it.
All education is good if it is taught by propagandists.
All jobs are a living wage if the government dictates what you need to live.
All housing is affordable if the government sets the standard of living conditions.
A retirement is unnecessary for those that die before receiving it.
An environment is as clean as the government says it is.

*$30 less for Liberal Arts classes than they do graduate level STEM courses

Sounds like you vote against those economic interests like so many uneducated inbred nazi incel larpers do

I actually disagree. STEM should be cheaper, especially by the logic that these degrees "matter more" than "liberal arts". The fact is liberal arts degrees are a luxury, and yes they are funded by federal loans - I don't know the ration between STEM and liberal arts being funded, but I strongly would suggest it is mostly STEM students that are burdened by loans.

>STEM courses should cost more,
STEM courses are beneficial to society, they should be free. Let those wannabe philosophers and historians pay for their shit on their own dime.

How have Democrats lifted the blacks and Mexicans out of poverty over the past 50 years?
LBJ really did get them voting Dem

STEM should be cheaper, i.e. completely funded by the federal government. I still think a certain amount should be in loan form but as a utilitarian model where you sign up to be a petroleum engineer since the US gov needs it and get your costs lowered would be ideal imo.

I'm not sure if there are any actual numbers on what degrees student loan debt consist of. But the fact is Liberal Arts degrees have no vehicle to repay their debt at all. 90% of STEM graduates are at least able to pay their debt back. An engineer with a $150k mortgage is way safer of a bet than a Starbucks employee or History teacher with the same. So if the federal government says I'm going to supplement one of those mortgages they should pick the engineer.

Removing federal loans from Liberal Arts programs would lead to them HAVING to slash their prices since people have to be able to afford it. Or those departments go defunct.

Even in that model STEM courses still cost way too much, but at least you're stemming some of the bleeding away from degrees that will never repay their debt to you.

Why not cancel all mortgages too? And all hospital bills. And rent while we're at it, and loans, and anything else. Fuck it, everything is free, now we're all happy

I'm saying they should (or actually they do) cost more because STEM costs more to teach. Labs can have millions of dollars of equipment for students to learn. A history class doesn't have that cost requirement to teach. I agree they should be free / subsidized and make less useful degrees pay their own way.

free shit
plus fuck bonal blumpf...

Stem should be dirt cheap much of the knowledge is solidified, it's not changing year to year.

Let me ask you , what do republicans do for working class whites except make healthcare absurdly expensive

Reagan really duped all you dumb rednecks

Get insurance.

Taxing the rich doesn't benefit you unless you're a nigger on welfare. Giving the government more money = giving the government more power. No thanks.

he'll be dead by election time.
sorry.

You will vote forever the DNC sellects and no one else

The millennials are already being punished. Why is it so fucking hard to see that freeing a whole generation from school debt will not only help them but the overall economy as well. Why can't bankers get soaked for once?

Ok, but why should liberal arts students have debt? How does this help our economy? Do we not need a body of literature added to our society? We all wont be petroleum engineers; in fact, we don't even need that many.

Yes, so where else should we go? As easily one of the wealthiest nations, is it any surprise that there are "too many liberal arts degrees"?


curious to know what you guys think

Baby with the bathwater. The plan is to put a half penny stock trading tax on Wall Street. If you pay tax on food, clothes, gas, and everything else why should you not pay a tax trading stocks, it's not like you need them to survive like the other things taxed. College debt is cancelled, bankers are robbed of their usury and future students will have their college paid as well. Wins all the way around.

He's seriously a retarded socialist with no understanding of basic economics

oy vey! this will surely get those goy students out voting!

>I'm voting for Bernie
>retard cucks who unironically vote against their own economic interests
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

He wants to pay for this using a half penny stock trading tax on Wall Street. It's a perfectly excellent and easily doable idea. If food, clothing, and energy are all taxed then why not stocks ( I'm not talking about capital gains that's about actually making money)

If the federal government wasn't funding infinite free loans despite any degree, Liberal Arts classes would be much much cheaper. The point being that colleges have artificially raised tuition costs due to federal loans without taking into account the outcome of the degree being earned. If they have to start taking into account that a History degree makes 33% of an Engineering Degree, they will have to slash costs 66% for anyone to bother taking them.

As far as actually needing entertainment, I imagine 90% of books are written by people who just write rather than think a college can teach them how to. Same with artists. And just because the federal government isn't funding these courses doesn't mean private institutions won't. Let the market decide if knowing about classical Greek history is worth $100k in debt. My bet is it's not, and the price will lower to meet the demand.

I'll fucking vote for him. He doesn't want infinite taco orcs either. All Trump wants to do is suck on Israel's schlong.

You forgot to add gibs nigger bums to that list.

Torn between him and yang as the best option for acceleration

It's like communists don't understand companies have needs and feelings too

Bernie is more against your economic interests than Trump, because when they try to take money away from the rich to pay for all these nigger gibs and the rich people all leave, the middle class will inherit the bill. We'll have a choice to either pay 80% income tax or move to Mexico where we can have a better life selling Chiclets, picture frames and donkey rides.

>make welders pay for my college degree

Im voting for bernie desu. Not helping re-elect trump

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Every whore has their price. Now we know OP's.

Yeah, vote bernie so your loans get taken care of but your tax hike costs you more than your loans ever will. Brilliant!!!

Fuck no. I worked 90 hour weeks over the summer to pay for my college. Graduated with no debt. These people shouldnt get it paid off becuase they were too lazy or stupid.

>The millennials are already being punished.

I know this is good. They made shitty choices and they are being punished for.

>Why can’t the bankers get soaked

Agreed this is why I have mixed feelings. I’d like to see the bankers punished as well but they never do. Maybe just cancel the debts and imprison the millennials that took out student loans? That way the banks and idiot millennials lose. Justice is served.

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The biggest of American companies pay little to no corporate taxes and that should help their feelings well enough, no?

I don’t mind taxing stock trading but using that money to fund colleges is mega gay and retarded. Use it to pay off the national debt.

Does he propose who is going to pay for it!

Also, the President does not have the power to forgive student debt. That would have to pass through Congress and that shit is never going to happen.

Should I rack up debt if hes going to clear it all? I could spring for a degree.

Same, puts Yangs 1k to Shame

and you believe him?

It is free on the internet. But to have someone waste their time teaching idiots? They need compensation

But student council president Biden promised double recess and free ice cream every day.

You're the retard if you can't see how investing in young people's college education isn't a win win for them and the country as a whole.

BERNIE MUST PAY REPARATIONS FOR THE DONATIONS HE STOLE THE FIRST TIME!
BERNIE'S MULTIMILLION DOLLAR MANSION IN VERMONT MUST BECOME A SCHOOL FOR THE YOUNG BLIND BLACK CHILDREN!
BLACK LIVES MATTER DEMANDS IT!

>people work their arses off to pay off their debt
get nothing
>people do nothing, acquire massive debts
get welfare payment possibly in the realm of a hundred thousand dollars

I'm not saying that US student debt shouldn't be cancelled, I'm just saying that there's an equity issue here that should be addressed.

I think a more sensible way of doing this would be if the US government bought all the debt and then let students pay it off over a much longer time period at a low interest rate. Means-test the payments so that people on low or no income don't have to make repayments. That way everyone has to pay their denbts and people who did the responsible thing aren't shafted to the tune of a hundred thousand dollars, but people who are in debt are no longer being crippled by it.

If you are poor but can get through college (after it's been beaten into your head that you'll never amount to anything without it) but have to borrow the money to do it....shitty choice?

Only a small percentage of the population is smart enough to get anything of use from college. If we had a system where we tested to select people to get free college then I’d be fine with that. But he wants everyone to go to college which is super dumb. Once you are 18 you are a full adult and you should start working, except for the 5% who are worthy of college.

But thats my point, the market is deciding that the liberals arts are worthwhile. You make some fair points, but I truly believe that many people enter higher education with scholarly/academic/social goals rather than earning a paycheck. This only makes us better as a society.


I think the truth is we need more people writing about our problems and more people reading about it, which is why liberals arts has grown so much. We can no longer rely on people hoping to earn $$$ in the short term to be entrusted with our future. STEM degrees can promise jobs and wealth but often ignore the social problems linked to it.

So, if we want to destroy the planet for some quick bucks, lets continue with business as usual, ignore debt and the growing body of literature (academic, legal, and social) that has been describing these problems for decades.

>curious to know what you guys think
sure.
>why should liberal arts students have debt?
you're right, why should we issue loans out for this? I see no reason to pay for this degree.
>Do we not need a body of literature added to our society?
Do we need degrees to do this? Look at the modern day content creators of neoliterature. Homestuck, TheOatmeal, these people did not need degrees to do what they do, if they did take any college, it is merely supplemental. The knowledge required to train oneself to draw well is publicly available, either for free or for much cheaper purchase than a degree (and opportunity cost is reasonable to consider, in fact it always is reasonable to consider).
>We all wont be petroleum engineers; in fact, we don't even need that many.
True, we don't need JUST petro engies. We need a huge, varying "stem" workforce. We also need HVAC, military, and plenty else. Artists however, are not a direct NEED of a country, but rather a byproduct of a nation's culture. When you force the culture out, it does not flow anymore.
>Yes, so where else should we go?
as in, where should people who do not want to go into college for a science, technology, engineering, or mathematics - centric degree go?
Law, law enforcement, finance, business, real estate. All of these will do you well depending on your work ethic.
I suppose I could waste a whole night shitting you out a more comprehensive list. Would that actually help you though?
>As easily one of the wealthiest nations, is it any surprise that there are "too many liberal arts degrees"?
If you mean the question literally, yes. It's surprising that a nation that did well for itself suddenly went the way of rome, despite knowing exactly what happened to her and made an explicit understanding of it mandatory.
If your insinuation is "wealthy nations always produce lots of artists," and are about to go on a rant about it, save both please.

If you took out a loan to get a degree that wasn’t able to get you a good job then you made a retarded choice.

Also there are plenty of ways to go through college debt free. Starbucks offered tuition reimbursement. If you are smart enough to pour a cup of coffee you should be able to get through college without too much debt.

If you do juco for the first couple years a total college degree costs about 30k. Very manageable to pay for if you spread out over 4-6 years.

>the market is deciding that the liberals arts are worthwhile

No it isn’t, that’s why we have a debt crisis. If it was worthwhile then all these liberal arts retards would have good jobs that could pay off their student loans.

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Good fucking joke. Is bernie going to pay for your degree personally? I’m sure as fuck not going to pay for your liberal arts degree faggot, or your surgery.

It is painfully obvious you have little idea what liberal arts entails.

>The market is deciding that the liberals arts are worthwhile.

No, colleges just make lots of money teaching it. The only jobs that want them are jobs that are just looking for you to have spent 4-6 years on literally any degree.

>I truly believe that many people enter higher education with scholarly/academic/social goals rather than earning a paycheck. This only makes us better as a society.

Historically it has not. If anything, it has only caused most of our problems as this mindset pushes more and more people into the propaganda factory. The world would be a much better place if the people going to college were doing so to actually be productive members of society as a result of their effort instead of the elitist need to have a paper that says they are educated.

You're right, it's not like I teach at a college. Or went to college. Or got a job after going to college that wasn't teaching at a college. Or hired people at my job outside of college. In fact I never had a job.
Or maybe you're just wrong. :^)

Fag

No, in fact you're so right, I never read a single catalog for any of the colleges I worked at or went to.
I have literally no understanding of higher education whatsoever.
Because you couldn't be possibly wrong. Remember, that's NEVER a possibility.

>Yea, I'm voting for paying everyone else's college tuition for the rest of my life in the form of higher taxes and inflation, because I'm retarded

Well, after two graduate degrees, one in bio and the other in anthro I can form an opinion. I respect yours as well - this is called a disagreement and it's going to be ok.

so youre gonna cancel debt right? soooo what about the salaries involved equipment maintenance in the schoools et cetera plus the other countries invested in these institutions. lol you think he can do that without every country standing on our doorstep lol

Are you sure you're okay? Maybe you need to write two theses with those two big-brain degrees. My small-brained JD and MBA can never compete.
Come on, tell me all about how you made it into JSTOR buddy, tell me how you're "famous in your circle."
baited breath my friend.

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>wasting time and money with any candidate that isn’t Elizabeth Warren

Pocahontas for Prez

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the one percent of course!

...so you went to a liberal arts school for your JD or...?

>after it's been beaten into your head that you'll never amount to anything without it

You aren’t absolved of guilt just because you believed a lie. People should be punished for not thinking for themselves.

>JD
Kike detected.

Any retard that believes he'll be able to do this through both Senate and House deserves their college debt and no career. He's literally there just to kill the other candidates below him in the polls and make the frontrunner have a larger lead like he always does before he drops out.

>1.6 trillion
that's 1.6x10^12 or 1.6x10^15? A billion in taco language is "mil millones" (a thousand of millions) and I don't know if a trillion is a billion per 1 000 or per 1 000 000
And anyways, how the fuck did you get such debt loan?

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Have you tried using a different shill pasta you fucking mongoloid?

I need to hurry up and learn another language and leave.

Amazing how canceling student loan debt for the people most well off in our society is a "progressive" idea. Why not cancel payday loan debt and those loan scams poor people get into? Oh because Dems couldn't care less about poor people except when they need to get reelected.

At first you looked like a shill and now I know you're just a fucking little dipshit who can't think for themself.