/Fascism General/ - /FG/

An old man on the point of death summoned his sons around him to give them some parting advice. He ordered them to bring in a bundle of sticks, and said to his eldest son: “Break it.”

The son strained and strained, but with all his efforts was unable to break the bundle. The other sons also tried, but none succeeded.

“Untie the bundle,” said the father, “and each of you take a stick.” When they had done so, he told them: “Now, break,” and each stick was easily broken.


‘The term “fascism” originated in Italy, where Signor Mussolini created his “Blackshirts” shortly after the war. The badge they wore was the ancient Roman symbol of unity. The main part of it represented the “fasces” bound together. Singly, each one could be snapped, but bound together, they were unbreakable. Applying it to the National life, the symbol has real significance. If all the sections that make up a country’s population are separated, they can be broken, but a nation united is a nation unbreakable.’

– Sir Oswald Mosley

Attached: 9vVOqvi.png (615x470, 458K)

Other urls found in this thread:

wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

For those that do not know what Fascism is, this is a great short essay to read.

Attached: What is fascism.png (886x1322, 125K)

Fascism uses its Authoritarian attribute to merge corporate power with the state. This allows the government to do what is necessary to benefit the nation and its peoples economically.

Everyone who posts on this board NEEDS to have sex.

Thanks for the bump kike.

Attached: 853ef05f7070d1a4158df44faf46e07b4b71c26d_full.jpg (184x184, 8K)

its /fsg/ retard

and then the youngest and as it turned out the only loyal and wise son took the bundle of arrows and snapped them over his knee, and the lord disowned him and banished him from his kingdom in a rage
this was a Kurosawa movie where he remade King Lear with samurai

I admire Mussolini’s thinking on facism, as Italian facism executed right would be stellar as a government, I hated his actual execution. Mussolini was blinded by his ambitions of Nova Roma, and despite having a large navy and large quantities of quality, well fed men to execute his grand vision, he stocked his cabinet members with drinking buddies and political allies from his rise to power. These people became industry leaders, generals, etc, so by the time that war came to Europe Italy had horrid industry (tank production was slow, truck production wasn’t much better, Italians were slow to modernize the military.) was piss poor at winning and had an army that was set up for trench combat, despite having some excellent weapons and equipment (MAB-38, best SMG in WW2 for example) and a navy that was poorly managed and didn’t have enough fuel. Italy had an excellent and experienced Air Force but it was ultimately also doomed due to land and sea failures. All of this resulted from poor leadership. I have to give credit where it’s due however, Mussolini did pull Italy out of a depression and strengthen the economy, however, his leadership was lacking in places that could have benefited him later on. If facism was ever done again, we must ensure that there are ways that the leader cannot just appoint people the positions that are clearly unable or not qualified.

I 100% agree with you. I think that it was better to allow more experience peoples in certain fields to lead rather than cronies.

Hitler did that, and purged all retards very quickly. But Hitler also made some key decisions that were actually quite successful during the war. But unfortunately the Axis powers were no match for the might of the British empire.

Wasnt Mussolini a communist that got angry he wasnt accepted in their group and decided to make his own party?

He was a socialist and wrote for a socialist news paper called Avanti!. His views caused him to be kicked out of the party (advocating the war). He then started the PNF Partito Nazionale Fascista. Excuse my spelling I do not speak or understand Italian fluently.

i think they could have handle britain if the US wasn't selling them supplies or if they didn't make the mistake of attacking Russia for no good reason. He should have sued for peace before the US entered the war, but hindsight is 20/20.

Actually a story about the first Chinese emperor,.

His two sons had been plotting to overthrow him. When they broke the single sticks he said “together we are strong, let us. It fight anymore”. The youngest took the two sharp ended pieces of broken stick and plunged them into the heart of his father and brother. He became emperor.

Hitler and Mussolini both had the fatal flaw of not listening to/firing their generals. I think Hitler was worse in some ways. I don’t think Mussolini wanted a war in the first place because deep down he knew his army would be fucked, while Hitler had delusions of grandeur and ordered his soldiers to start taking meth as part of a super soldier program.

Just a reminder to anyone who says Churchill saved Britain from Fascism, if Sir Oswald Mosley and the BUF had come to power Britain would have never joined the war and we would still have our empire.

>attacking Russia for no good reason.
Will this meme die one day?
Its baffling to me that a board who openly denies the holohoax and supports Hitler still buy into this normie take on the German-Russian battle.

So more government propaganda to make people believe that the State exists to serve them and not the other way around. Same shit dressed up as something different.

Attached: 1561383346448.jpg (395x396, 61K)

The state is the people and the people are the state.

He also would've avoided the Troubles, and a Britain under him likely would've lead to a united Ireland, but which remained a part of the Commonwealth.

Horseshit. The Italians fucking sucked and contributed nothing to the fascism movement. They got wrecked by the Greeks by a bunch of fucking untrained farmers.

The Italians created Fascism brainlet.

>Germany attacks Russia
>Russia uses T-34
>It's super effective
>Germany uses Tiger tank
>It's super expensive

Germany got raped by Slavs in 1941, and are now getting raped by Muslims in 2019.

Created it the same way Karl Marx created socialism. It doesn't mean shit unless you actually make it work.

Q. Did it work out?

A. No.

>The March of Rome

>"have you seen? they made it!"
>"It's not like you know, you know? Imagine if they give the government to those people. They can't last. You will see that things change from so to so. I tell you.
>"But tell me a little ... Have they chased out the king?"
>"Kicked? It was he who let them in! So goodnight also to the republic!"


V.E.III "Admiral, honestly tell me
what do you think of these fascists?"
Admiral "Dispassionately, it seems like serious people."
V.E.III "Well ... let's try them for a few months ..."

finnaly a good thread

Attached: rising_front_big.jpg (964x940, 111K)

It was always Hitler's intention to go east and attack the USSR. The reason he went west is because Britain and France decleared war on Germany.

> memeflag
> have sex incel

Seriously kys

Finally, /fsg/ is back

i wasn t going to pust, but after u said this i must port because i need to bang

More proof that Hitler was naive. He didn't even have a Plan B. Honestly, if one of his long serving generals had been the fuhrer during the span of the war instead of Hitler more than likely they would of won. He made poor decisions constantly throughout the course of the war.

Completly different mate. Fascism worked in Italy. It was able to unite a politically divided country. The reason Fascism ended in Italy was because Italy lost WW2.

That's what I meant by them not contributing to the movement though. The spread of fascism more specifically. They were getting their asses kicked nonstop. They weren't useful allies in the long run.

The Anglo aristocratic stranglehold on the world is as powerful as ever. You've forgotten one basic principle of war: When you're smaller than your enemy, make yourself appear bigger; when you're bigger than your enemy, make yourself appear smaller. Classic trick that most of the world doesn't understand.

True. Hitler should have at least finished the war with Britain before going to war with the USSR. Hitler even mentioned in Mein Kampf that fighting a war on two fronts was a bad idea.

Attached: teamwork-meme-6.jpg (300x218, 23K)

That's not really their fault though desu. Italy wasn't ready to fight a modern war. Simple as. Mussolini knew this and tried to convince Hitler not to invade Poland until the Italian army was better prepared for war.

i should have made myself clearer. no good strategic reason.

Juden.

Attached: fariseos-2.jpg (1600x1202, 249K)

is that Iain Glen on the left?

What if we replace every instance of the word "fascism" with 'Nationalism'? Should the word fascism be reclaimed at all costs regardless of the uphill battle to do so would be, or should we rebrand?

Re brand? The youth of today doesn't even know of this stuff, the media and brainwashing has slowed down. If you asked a Zoomer about this stuff he most likely wouldn't even know what Fascism is. The Boomers are the ones that would constantly regurgitate the gas chamber stories to their children. Now as the Boomers get older and die off their regurgitation do not reach the youth. Fascism is a growing Ideology. Nationalism is a growing Ideology. It is cooler to be a nationalist.

Attached: authority_on_the_rise (1).png (861x483, 827K)

Attached: 1483307934911.png (1122x645, 860K)

We don't really decide the brand, our enemies do. You'll be called a fascist and/or nazi if you're pro-white, no matter what. Well-reasoned speeches and essays aren't going to change that.

The important thing is to wake whites up to the war against them, and to the value of their heritage. Doesn't matter how... I honestly don't think there's such a thing as bad publicity when things are this bad.

This.

The good old times, filled with immense ideologies...

Attached: Arditi2.jpg (1003x750, 181K)

People, even zoomers, have had enough conditioning to trigger that Pavlovian response to the word "fascism" = bad, regardless of their political understanding of the ideology. All they know is fascism as a synonym for bad. Thus, branding oneself as such or accepting the brand puts one immediately on the backfoot, having first to rehabilitate the very word itself or distance oneself from its past before any discussion can begin. Most people will have switched off long before that ever happens and the (((media))) have gotten what they want, you to be made appear unhinged.

Might it not be better therefore to at least maintain the plausible deniability through rebranding? At least then there's room for the message to get out. It's dishonest and unsavoury to me but such things are trivial compared to the existent annihilation we face if such ideas fail for good.

So my understanding of fascism is that it is an entirely temporary to purge the nation of subversive elements so that it can either transition back to democracy or perhaps even evolve into national anarchy.

Why do you love democracy so much? Why do you think its a better form of government?

That's not your "understanding" of Fascism as an ideology. It's the role you've assigned it, as a simple in-between stage.
Needless to say such description doesn't fit the ideology since it's been applied only once. Not enough "experiments" have been made, unlike c*mmunism.

democracy is a farce, its literately controlled by mega tech companies and the rich elite. people get to count for 1/200,000,000th of a vote and thats somehow enough freedom for them

This.
Not only that, fascism is also a way of life. Its philosophy goes beyond that of a mere government. I'm genuinely curious as to why people still buy into the "superior gaymocracy" meme.

He invaded because Stalin was building up to attack him

wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html

Attached: Scarlett2.jpg (800x450, 51K)

It’s funny. Instead of calling myself a national socialist I call myself a social nationalist and normies think it’s cool and progressive kek

Because long-term authoritarianism cannot work with modern technology. Short-term authoritarian regimes have yielded fruitful results in many countries, such as Chile, Spain, Brazil, Portugal, and Turkey.

Fascism is ineed an all-encompassing ideology. It takes into account everything and everyone. It's ethno-centric in order to create the Aristotelian Philia. It's a dictatorship in order to satisphy Socrate's/Plato's vision of the Republic. It's economically totalitarian in order to overcome class divide. Eco-fascism takes into consideration the true primitivistic nature of Men, mother-earth is therapeutic.
Fascism is indeed Everything.

Attached: Diversity.png (1008x760, 1.59M)

You didn't answer the question. All you did was give your reason for why you don't think fascism works long term. Those reasons are wrong but before we go into that I'd like you to answer the question for real.

What is this excerpt from kind user? Sounds interesting

>The Nicomachean Ethics of Aristotle

I believe that democracy is the best form of government for long-term stability and prosperity. Still, temporary authoritarian systems are oftentimes necessary to either protect the nation from imminent danger or drag it into modernity. An example of a country doing both is South Korea under Syngman Rhee.

Thanks man. You should as well

fuck off cuckold

Funny Greek. Laughed.

He had no choice since Russians were preparing to invade.

>I believe that democracy is the best form of government for long-term stability and prosperity.
I know you do. But why?

Why did you choose fascism over monarchism or national socialism?

National Socialism? The German one? That was Fascism. And Monarchism can work with Fascism.

Attached: Screenshot (112).png (704x1080, 1.05M)

Attached: 1552803618_a4vsrgthqclz.jpg (743x1103, 172K)

Attached: 1479421294383.jpg (500x666, 68K)

People who post on this board have more sex than redditors. Many are married with kids, their own biological kids too.

Attached: AoAu4v4.jpg (800x409, 141K)

Clapped my wife’s cheeks this morning before work :)

Like a constitutional monarchy only with fascism holding the real power?

Because democracy grants people more personal freedom than any other system. Depending on society, this can lead to either prosperity or degeneracy. Fascism is necessary to mold the nation into something that would become prosperous under democracy. I know you're tired of this, but Pinochet and Ataturk are the best examples of this happening.

Please read the essay that I posted above.

>ordered his soldiers to start taking meth as part of a super soldier program.
Dude, stop listening to history channel memes. Both allied and axis combatants gobbled those like tic tacs back then, and for good reason. Minor health complications don't outweigh being at subpar performance in a combat/survival situation, your life depends on it.

While I agree with you, remember hindsight is 20/20 and sometimes appointing someone you trust or at least know well enough is better than a competent person who may betray you and sabotage your plans.

If the U.S military of 1944 were transported forward to 2019 you'd have President Rockwell within a week and you know it you slithering kike

>Because democracy grants people more personal freedom than any other system.
We both know thats false. People have their freedom constantly eroded under democracy. What you get is the illusion of freedumb under the most subversive ideology there is: Gaymocracy. Furthermore, it isn't fascism that goes around the globe to impose its will on other nations. Its not fascism that enforce tarifs on other countries to hurt their ability to prosper. It is not fascism who goes around the globe to spread globohomo. Its democracy. We are in the mess we are in because of it. Democracy is far too easy to subvert. The idea of giving a brainwashed mass the illusion of power has completely halted human developpement and enlightenment in favor of money. Under fascism you wouldn't be free to sell degeneracy or anything that hurts the values and deface the morals of the people. Otherwise you have all the freedom you want. Just not the freedom to fuck your people over.

Under democracy, you are given the illusion of control over what happens when really you don't. And if you go agaisnt the interest of those in power, you can rest assured they will make you don't anymore. Under democracy we are getting all the state interventions but for the wrong reasons and none of the benefits a state could bring. But hey we can't complain because after all, its our fault for voting wrong... Maybe the next puppet is going to be the right one.

That essay is a decent start, but it requires much revision to become suitable for distribution.

wasn't the original antifa a communist org in weimar that created the climate of violence that brought the brownshirts to power?

Yes. And it was also founded by a jew

Attached: 1553787519971.jpg (1024x991, 171K)

headed*
not founded

Italian fascism existed under a monarchy. Which was really what fucked over Mussolini in the end because the head of the monarchy allowed allied troops to invade and conspired with them

the more things change hey

Based, although the economy would have some level of interest rates (time value of money). Not the same as usury though

At this point I think the problem is less how people outside see fascists and more the modern quality of people it attracts (tho it's much worst with NS).
Also it removes the the imperative for third position political organization to emerge from it's host country.

/FaG/*
Because you are all faggots.

Thanks for the bump schlomo

>hates marxists
>gets btfo by marxists

great movement idiots

More like Actors Guild general

(((fascism)))

Fascism is actually perfect for the united States! No wonder they push so heavily to demonize it. Fascism is a united Nation. America is supposed to be the united States that form one Nation. Whether it be the people of New England, Dixieland, Mid-west, or pioneer West, we are States united together to form one Nation. I LOVE IT! FASCISM IS THE WAY!

and then everybody laughed and clapped

>hates capitalism
>gets BTFO by capitalism just existing

Nice ideology faggot

Reporting from the largest democracy in the world :Been feeling really depressed. Ran from pillar to post to obtain a gun,failed.
And now reading this post made me cry. Good post.

Jeez, it must be hard to be an Indian who woke up.

But what about democracy after the communists and other subversive elements have been purged? Still, it is much easier for a Marxist to find his place in a democracy than in a fascist state.

Personally I believe a Fascist state must have a monarch at its leader. Fascist states are extremely effective, but fall into problems on who will inherit the nation. If the leader inherits the nation, the succession will be more secure and stable. Basically do what North Korea does, an unofficial monarchy, where the head of state offers the state to his son.

A fascist state should only exist for the lifetime of its founder. Afterwards, it should transition to democracy.

Bump

Attached: 010BC4D6-79AD-4ADD-B265-AA5EB8885A22.jpg (728x1023, 164K)

Attached: 28C8640C-F1E0-44C4-8A8E-964EDEE7993D.jpg (717x1024, 235K)

>muh nazi generals
This is a dumb History channel meme. Hitler did listen to his generals and in fact the biggest factor in the failure of Barbarossa can be attributed to his generals. Hitler fell ill as the Germans approached Stalingrad and his generals decided on a full frontal assault instead of encircling the city like Hitler planned. They lost the battle and the rest is history. If Stalingrad fell then the Soviets were done.
Also things would have been very different without the US supplying the Soviets through lend-lease. I don't think Hitler expected that nor could he have really.