Woman dies while performing degrading webcam sex for perv

Tyler Rogers
Tyler Rogers

nypost.com/2019/06/26/woman-dies-while-performing-degrading-webcam-sex-for-perv/
kek

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cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/extreme-pornography
youtube.com/watch?v=mHWAi_xCA_s
cnn.com/videos/us/2018/10/01/ga-high-school-football-death-orig-vstop-bdk.cnn
twitter.com/bardenhope
buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/michelle-carter-jail-prison-texting-suicide-case
youtube.com/watch?v=B5TGzbeyiJ4
bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-46781259

Elijah Barnes
Elijah Barnes

post vid of kys

Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

Good.

We don't need anymore sluts.

Joseph Johnson
Joseph Johnson

God I wish that was me

Zachary Lewis
Zachary Lewis

performing
how antisemitic. what a world, what a world.

Aaron Young
Aaron Young

I'd like off this ride now.

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Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

Her body her choice bigots!

Cameron Price
Cameron Price

This happened a year ago

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

I bet she died suffocating while eating ass.

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

Barden’s mother said her daughter — who worked as a disability carer but became a webcam girl to earn extra money — was “beautiful and intelligent” and called for better regulation of the industry.

Yet the only photo of her they can find is one where she's wearing leopard print, drinking beer, and smoking a cigarette.

You have to be a special sort of retard to choke yourself to death.

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Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

paint a literal whore as an angel
paint the MAN who was viewing her as a pervert

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i want off this ride

AND THEYRE TRYING TO GET HIM FOR THE DEATH?
lol @ talking to women in 2019

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

Disability worker Hope Barden, 21, was moonlighting as a webcam girl to make extra cash when pervert Jerome Dangar, 45, paid her to strangle herself — then watched as she suffocated in March 2018 without calling for help.

THE EVIL WHITE RACIST PERVERT KILLED HER GUYS XDDD

SHE WAS JUST AN INNOCENT GIRL WHO ACCIDENTALLY STARTED SUCKING DICKS FOR MONEY XDDD

Brayden Kelly
Brayden Kelly

The actual legal issue here seems to be that he knew she was in trouble but didn't call cops/ambulance/whatever.
Yeah, if you pay someone to do something on a webcam and it looks like they're actually dying, you probably should try to alert authorities somehow.
If he'd done that he'd probably have been fine
(instead, he suicided while in prison for the UK's "extreme" porn laws ffs)

Breath play can be bloody dangerous, particularly when done on your own.

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

Barden’s mother said her daughter — who worked as a disability carer but became a webcam girl to earn extra money — was “beautiful and intelligent” and called for better regulation of the industry.
Ma'am, your daughter is a fucking whore. There is no "industry".

Carson Hill
Carson Hill

Her name was Hope!

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Lincoln Cook
Lincoln Cook

Someone find her Twitter and see if she has a post about having information on Hillary Clinton.

Aiden Wilson
Aiden Wilson

nypost.com/2019/06/26/woman-dies-while-performing-degrading-webcam-sex-for-perv/

became a webcam girl to "earn" extra money
fix't

Hudson Thomas
Hudson Thomas

Things that you will never see happen in a Muslim country.

Ethan Robinson
Ethan Robinson

whores patrolling themselves

nice

Asher Richardson
Asher Richardson

The actual legal issue here seems to be that he knew she was in trouble but didn't call cops/ambulance/whatever.
Where the fuck would he tell them to go, you fucking mong? sluts4sale.com?
I'm pretty goddamned sure that no matter how stupid these whores are, they know better than to tell the johns their address.

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Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

calls the presumable man a perv
don't call the woman a whore
fuck off

Christian Wright
Christian Wright

Someday God is gonna cut you down

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

I bet when he realized she was actually strangling and was going to die, he shot the biggest fucking load ever. Probably re-watched a dozen times before getting caught.

Got his money worth and did the community a service

Hunter Davis
Hunter Davis

I got the vid

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

Yep, he probably couldn't give them much useful information, but it'd cover his ass having the record of his attempt there.

Justin Scott
Justin Scott

Plz post.

William Price
William Price

No u dont

Jeremiah Gutierrez
Jeremiah Gutierrez

Why is he the perv but she isn’t? Fucking media.

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Cameron Jackson
Cameron Jackson

when you pay a webcam thot, do you know her real name and address?

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

That’s what she said.

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Gavin Wood
Gavin Wood

Unironically this.

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

based perverted sexual deviant

Joseph Perez
Joseph Perez

he probably couldn't give them much useful information

you fucking think?
911. What done be yo emergencies, an sheeit?
Um. Yeah. A camwhore named TammyTwoFists is accidentally strangling herself to death somewhere in the world. Can you get an ambulance there in the next 3 minutes to save her?
SHEEEEIT. I dun gets paid enough fo dis crap. *click*

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Ryan James
Ryan James

see

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

Well he was a brit and it'd be pretty likely he knew she was a brit, so that does simplify things, but yeah basically.
He now has an emergency call on file, call records, call recording from the emergency service, etc of him trying to get help. He'd be in the clear.
Though desu you'd probably call a police station directly rather than 911/999/000/whatever.

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

Amazing how he's the perv for asking for it and she's totally blameless and not a perv for doing things online for degenerates for money.

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Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

this is the part i dont get.

why should he charged with anything, shes the one that strangled herself. charged for encouragement? wtf

Jace Myers
Jace Myers

Disability worker
I don't even know what to say...

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Thomas Parker
Thomas Parker

AND THEYRE TRYING TO GET HIM FOR THE DEATH?
need to dig him up first. He got jailed for snuff porn after they started investigating him for this, then, got found ded in prison soon after. tldr, everyone died

Xavier Barnes
Xavier Barnes

Though desu you'd probably call a police station directly rather than 911/999/000/whatever.
Just how long does it take someone to die from strangulation down there in Bizarro Canada, Bruce?

You must be a lawyer or a politician. No other type of person could respond so coherently while lacking any semblance of logic or common sense.

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Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

The death of Dangar ultimately prevented prosecutors from charging him in connection with Hope’s death as a result of sexually related role-play

Wait...what the actual fuck. So women fight for sexual liberation because they don't need men to control their bodies and are adults that can make their own decisions, but when it fucks up and they suffer the consequences of their actions they're "beautiful and intelligent " victims that have no accountability for their own actions and all responsibility falls on the nearest man!?

What is it like to be able to switch being a responsible adult on and off depending on when it's convenient?

why should he charged with anything
Because women have holes where apparently all their accountability leaks out of.

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Levi Cook
Levi Cook

What is it like to be able to switch being a responsible adult on and off depending on when it's convenient?
Women in a nutshell

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Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

You seem to think I'm arguing this would save the chick.
I'm purely talking about "Oh fuck there's a death I witnessed, I better cover my ass"
That's how it works in commonwealth countries mate. In the US, sure, no obligation to do a fucking thing.

Anthony Campbell
Anthony Campbell

He told her to choke herself, and then didn't call for help when she started to die. The article says he died in prison though, good fucking riddance.

Ryder Scott
Ryder Scott

degenerate dies doing degenerate shit
thank you Jesus

Gavin Richardson
Gavin Richardson

t. Harvey Weinstein apologist

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

strangle yourself to death trying to make money as a cam girl
somehow this is the guy's fault

Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

on and off depending on when it's convenient
Sounds like classic Jewry to me.

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

Post your saggy tits whore.
Checked

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Tyler Rogers
Tyler Rogers

happened a year ago
What the emu said
Faggot OP, learn how to set up a google alert to keep you shit posting fresh

Aaron Rivera
Aaron Rivera

Not posting sauce
Why even bring it up if you ain't going to give us the goods... Ain't no one care about another dead hoe.

Luke Thompson
Luke Thompson

So when someone points out that Hollywood and the porn industry sexually exploits people, you attack them? How enlightened.

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

instead, he suicided while in prison for the UK's "extreme" porn laws ffs)
Any bongs wanna chime in on what constitutes "extreme" porn? Didn't know you can get thrown in the clank for that in UK

Justin Butler
Justin Butler

That's how it works in commonwealth countries mate.
That fucking explains a lot.
Too bad your ancestors didn't decide to call them the commensense countries instead, could've saved you twats a lot of bullshit.

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Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

Bingo.

Adam Rodriguez
Adam Rodriguez

You're the only one bringing up Hollywood and Weinstein on a completely unrelated topic. Nor was she exploited by the "industry". She exploited herself.

Zachary Walker
Zachary Walker

Got what she deserved. Good riddance and hopefully we can expect more of this to happen.

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

women arent responsible for their actions you misogynist!

Thomas Perez
Thomas Perez

could've saved you twats a lot of bullshit.
Is that so? Now talk about all the men who've had their lives destroyed from false rape accusations on campuses.

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Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

I really wish I didn't see this before going to bed. Sad story all around. Pathetic really.

Isaiah Reyes
Isaiah Reyes

IMPORTANT THREAD

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Luis Gray
Luis Gray

Well, to be honest the quotes provided from the Rogue article are somewhat opaque to me, and I'm not willing to pay to read the interview, so I guess we'll never know what she meant by her comments.

Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

So you're okay with the existence of Hollywood and porn? Spoken like a true cuckservative.

Jack Thompson
Jack Thompson

Are you drunk? What are you even talking about?

Blake James
Blake James

Must've been an intense video. Like the guy's intentions was to kill the bitch. Shit happens. It just shows they're going after camgirls next. Camgirls are a good source for porn untainted by the kike jew.

Evan Parker
Evan Parker

Stuff that involves blood, rape, rapeplay are big no-nos.

Caleb Murphy
Caleb Murphy

In this case, apparently snuff (bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-46781259), but the UK considers "extreme porn" to be "explicit and realistic" pornographic images depicting "An act which threatens a person's life" or "An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals" - see cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/extreme-pornography for a discussion from the UK Crown Prosecutor's office.
I do not personally agree these things should be illegal, particularly the "serious injury" component, when done and consented to freely by an adult.

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

I'm talking about the image here
The quotes that the user was mocking her for are from a Rogue magazine article, but it's behind a paywall.

Justin Diaz
Justin Diaz

muh freedom

Austin Martin
Austin Martin

So it was essentially a snuff film then?

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

She was " Beautiful and intelligent" -- that second one is doubtful given the circumstances, eh?

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Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

She didn't say the safe word. How was he to know?

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

People say say that your porn habits get increasingly more hardcore over time, well not with me per se. I've noticed myself looking at more non-nude pictures and solo cam girls. Just appreciating the beauty of the woman. I don't watch porn to see women be degraded for entertainment. Modern porn is becoming more like a circus sideshow, where the woman does all kinds of disgusting things for views. Piss, vomit, licking ass, anal, women do it all for the camera these days.

Mason King
Mason King

jesus christ
i hope the guy was able to bust his nut and not left with blueballs
imagine paying for a private show and the dumb bitch goes and dies on you
he should be fully refunded it’s not like she needs the money anyway

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Bentley Nguyen
Bentley Nguyen

I was going to say, shut it down too user. These fucukta goyim

Evan Moore
Evan Moore

muh freedom
What are you driving at here? Yeah if porn wasn't actually the result of an illegal act, it should be freely accessible to adults.
It's legal to, for example, pierce one's own genitals in the UK. Filming that as porn however leaves the porn illegal. How is that not absurd?

Hudson Phillips
Hudson Phillips

Hell yeah

Jackson James
Jackson James

THOTS = PATROLLED

Landon Morgan
Landon Morgan

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Julian Butler
Julian Butler

Hope Barden
I guess that'd make her Hope on a rope

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Levi Williams
Levi Williams

Reposting old new stories for easy (You)s is a timeless Jow Forums tradition.

Connor Torres
Connor Torres

What was her handle and where is the video?

Justin Nguyen
Justin Nguyen

Porn should be illegal. If we are going to have capitalism at all, then it should be designed so that it doesn't funnel people into degrading, unhealthy, and unnecessary occupations.

Chase Thompson
Chase Thompson

The article he posted is only a few hours old.

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

Their three month relationship
Camwhore
Honk Honk

David Lopez
David Lopez

was the verdict on the inquest yesterday ('unlawful killing' - means they would have tried him for her death, were he not beyond trial already now anyway)

Juan Bennett
Juan Bennett

Why should porn be illegal?
Why should you get to define which jobs are "degrading, unhealthy, and unnecessary occupations"?

Hell, if you're worried about "degrading, unhealthy, and unnecessary" things, why the fuck are you on the chans?

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

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William Hernandez
William Hernandez

Yes, but if it is legal it's completely unfair and inconsistent to prosecute men for the fallout of the consequences of porn and hold the whores creating it as model members of society. Do you understand the hypocrisy of this incident?

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Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

Wrong again. This happened in England.

Lucas Green
Lucas Green

If we are going to have capitalism at all
leftpol sperg

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

Women are like kikes.

Juan Hughes
Juan Hughes

SHE'S WEARING A CHOKER

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Ryan Robinson
Ryan Robinson

Why should you get to define which jobs are "degrading, unhealthy, and unnecessary occupations"?
Why not? Somebody has to, and you cucks apparently aren't willing to.

Hell, if you're worried about "degrading, unhealthy, and unnecessary" things, why the fuck are you on the chans?
I'm voluntarily on Jow Forums because I like arguing with people. I'm not forced to be here to survive under capitalism. Besides, there's a big difference between being on a website where I might see some gore and working for a porn producer that hires people to penetrate me anally and slap me in the face.

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

hey OP, links not working now

Evan Long
Evan Long

what the fuck is he supposed to do? dial 911 and tell them his ethot somewhere in america is about to sufficate in 30 seconds?

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

Whore: sad and deserving.
Customer: pathetic and retarded.
be 45 years old and still being interested in whore women's hole
Lol.

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

Did you read the article? He told her to choke herself and then did nothing when she started dying. This incident went beyond the question of the morality of porn.

Ryan Nguyen
Ryan Nguyen

oh nevermind youre retarded :(

Isaac Turner
Isaac Turner

Wrong. They kick me off whenever I try to post there because Nazbol is against the rules.

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

foreshadowing

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Jose Powell
Jose Powell

Why not? Somebody has to, and you cucks apparently aren't willing to.
Why does someone have to? You're not making much of a case here.
I don't think such a determination SHOULD be made, on a society wide basis.
If you want to make decisions for yourself about what jobs you'd do, that's your call. You have no authority to make that decision for others.

Besides, there's a big difference between being on a website where I might see some gore and working for a porn producer that hires people to penetrate me anally and slap me in the face.

I agree that where someone is actually forced to be a sex worker, that should be prohibited, but if someone chooses to do it, whether they enjoy the additional funds or just do it because they enjoy it... that's entirely their decision.

Also, we're talking about a camgirl here, so solo porn for the most part...

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

Probably, but an EMT would probably have a more intelligent response on this issue than me

Zachary Russell
Zachary Russell

choker
leopard print bodysleeve
hoop earrings
beer and cigarette in the same hand
I like the first two, but they have their time and place. All of them combined is better broadcasting that you're a whore than the tramp stamp I'm sure she has.

Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

Well, why would you do things halfway?
If you choke a girl, you stopped only because you don't want to be a murderer.
But if she does it herself, it's on her.

Stop defending that stupid cunt.

Carson Smith
Carson Smith

and working for a porn producer that hires people to penetrate me anally and slap me in the face.
That has literally nothing to do with what's being discussed
Auto erotic asphyxiation is a thing, he asked her to engage in it. She chose to do it. She at least bares the weight of responsibility. I believe that the porn industry is immoral, she wasn't in " the industry" though. She was a camwhore, she sold herself to be exploited as a product. That's not the same as being exploited by filthy porn producers.
and then did nothing when she started dying.
What should he have done? Tell me.

Nicholas White
Nicholas White

mentally deranged.

Also sage.

Connor James
Connor James

If you choke a girl, you stopped only because you don't want to be a murderer.
Or because she gets off on the reduction of oxygen to her brain. Or because you get off on being ABLE to do something even tho you don't actually choose to. There's a bunch of reasons.

Jordan Gomez
Jordan Gomez

a smart person wouldve just pretended to suffocate

David Sanders
David Sanders

This

Kayden Roberts
Kayden Roberts

If you want to make decisions for yourself about what jobs you'd do, that's your call. You have no authority to make that decision for others.
Sorry, but child sex work, whether it's "voluntary" or not, should be illegal. The same goes for degrading sex work.

Also, we're talking about a camgirl here, so solo porn for the most part...
It's come to my attention recently that even camgirl work can be degrading, humiliating, and even dangerous, as this incident is an example of.

I think this video might help clear up my position on the issue (yes, I know that thoughtslime is a massive cuck shitstain loser, but he has a point in this one video):
youtube.com/watch?v=mHWAi_xCA_s

Matthew Butler
Matthew Butler

let's create a new award in honor of this woman. an annual award for whoever can get a whore to off herself in the most heinous way

James Morris
James Morris

Reminder that according to society this woman getting married to a man when she's young and being his wife, having children and caring for the home is considered bad, but whoring yourself out for extra cash to strangers on the internet while already being burnt out from your other job is empowering and it’s his fault if you die from consenting to his obviously dangerous perversions.

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Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

my bet: eating her own ass, broke a rib that punctured her heart

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

and id just like to add that sites that have that retarded fucking navigation bar at the top that fucking follows you as you scroll are cancer. thank fucking christ for ublock

Jaxon Thompson
Jaxon Thompson

I disagree, I would choke someone during sex even if I loved them and had no intention of harming them.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

Extreme porn is any skirt above knee height and/or not wearing a burka.

Lincoln Cruz
Lincoln Cruz

I remember that. Fucking chaturbate wouldn't refund my tokens, worst crazy ticket show ever.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

She died so a man could get pleasure and you neets degrade her.

No wonder you're all virgins

Robert Myers
Robert Myers

So if tell you to kys and you do, it's my fault? What if I call you a fucking idiot tranny cum guzzler?

Cameron Reyes
Cameron Reyes

That has literally nothing to do with what's being discussed
That's because we're discussing something else now.

That's not the same as being exploited by filthy porn producers.
I agree. However, I still don't think that capitalism is voluntary, so she is still being forced into it in a way. See the video I posted here:

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

Child sex work is wrong because children are not yet fully capable of consenting.
Once you're an adult, if you want to be "degraded" that's your choice. Hell, it's actually a strong fetish for a lot of people.

It's come to my attention recently that even camgirl work can be degrading, humiliating, and even dangerous, as this incident is an example of.
So is working as a server in a restaurant, so the fuck what?

YT Link
Will watch later tonight, still at work for a bit yet.

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

That was funny for a leaf

Hudson Gutierrez
Hudson Gutierrez

Explain to me how cheering her on to perform at her job and her subsequently dying is any different from highschool cheerleaders yelling at young boys to engage in barbarism on the football field in the name of inflated balls and imaginary lines.
cnn.com/videos/us/2018/10/01/ga-high-school-football-death-orig-vstop-bdk.cnn

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

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Hunter Clark
Hunter Clark

Interesting way of posing the question. I think that paying someone to hurt themselves is different than just telling them to do it, because it changes the scenario so that you are forced to take dangerous risks in order to survive under capitalism.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

That's because we're discussing something else now
we
No, what's happening is people are trying to discuss the hypocrisy of this court ruling and entire event and you are trying to steer this discussion to hollywood and capitalism which no one really wants to talk about with you. Read the thread, you're really shoehorning it in their, bringing up Weinstein when fucking not a soul mentioned hollywood.
However, I still don't think that capitalism is voluntary
For fucks sake you really struggle to read the tone of a room don't you? Serious question, are you a tranny or have you been diagnosed with autism?
See the video I posted here
I'm okay but thanks anyway.

Oliver Powell
Oliver Powell

thats hot

Landon Bennett
Landon Bennett

Offering a trade for something is still voluntary.
If I offer someone a bar of chocolate to do something, that's not fundamentally any different to offering money - just abstracts things a bit. They can choose not to take the trade.

John Barnes
John Barnes

i believe normal people have simply opted out

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Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

so that you are forced to take dangerous risks in order to survive under capitalism.
Oh just fuck right off. This has nothing to do with capitalism. I'm by no means a capitalist, i'm third positionist , but she was not in any capacity "forced" to engage in autoerotic asphyxiation. If you're that hard up for money there are a million niche fetish avenues she could've gone down that in no way posed a risk to her life. While I believe that's completley immoral, no one forced her into this, and neither did the guy. You're just trying to reframe this into the only narrative you care about, and it doesn't fit.

Dominic Davis
Dominic Davis

Child sex work is wrong because children are not yet fully capable of consenting.
If you agree that some people aren't capable of consenting to their own exploitation, then why does that changes as soon as they turn 18?

Once you're an adult, if you want to be "degraded" that's your choice. Hell, it's actually a strong fetish for a lot of people.
If it's a fetish, then they can do it on their own free time, when their is no economic pressure on them to do so in order to survive (although I would probably still make some forms of self degradation illegal).

So is working as a server in a restaurant, so the fuck what?
It's very different in the degree and kind of degradation in my opinion.

Jaxson Watson
Jaxson Watson

Clown world man

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

Daughter "called for better regulation of the industry."

industry

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Owen Allen
Owen Allen

Leopard print catsuit
Beer and cigarettes
Hair and makeup
Music festival
All absolute essentials for survival
Okaaay.

Luis King
Luis King

Read the thread, you're really shoehorning it in their, bringing up Weinstein when fucking not a soul mentioned hollywood.
I brought up Weinstein and Hollywood when I was responding to the image in this post:

Serious question, are you a tranny or have you been diagnosed with autism?
No, neither

Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

Okay, then you shouldn't be able to offer to trade something for self harm either.

Sebastian Kelly
Sebastian Kelly

You could make the argument that some, if not all of these, would be useful to her in attracting a mate, which is a primary objective in human life

Eli Stewart
Eli Stewart

If dangerous acts are what people are willing to pay for and it's the easiest way you have of making money, then I think you are being forced into it

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

If you agree that some people aren't capable of consenting to their own exploitation, then why does that changes as soon as they turn 18?
Did I say exploitation? I just said consent. In this case, to sex acts. And it depends on the age and the exact act - most places "phase in" responsibility over a few years (for example, sexual consent at 16, filming of sex acts consent at 18, and drinking alcohol at 21)
Even then those ages are just where we draw the line as a general rule, because you have to generalize a bit when drawing up legislation.

Exploitation would be when it's non consensual. At 18 in most jurisdictions it's consensual. So... there's no exploitation at 18, in most cases. Just a trade.

If it's a fetish, then they can do it on their own free time, when their is no economic pressure on them to do so in order to survive
How do you know that isn't what was occurring here? She had a day job. Maybe she got off on being degraded and being paid for it. This isn't that unusual, frankly.

It's very different in the degree and kind of degradation in my opinion.
Your opinion. Your opinion isn't more valid than anyone else's. So if someone else finds whatever it is you do more degrading, they're free to impose that moral judgement on you then?
How about you keep your moral judgements to your own behaviour, and let other people moderate their own?

Christian Rivera
Christian Rivera

yeah, no you're just utterly full of shit. You can't see someone spending their money on luxury goods then claim it was for survival. You're just disingenuous. Fuck off back to /leftypol/ if you can't drop that feminist narrative shit.

Justin Gonzalez
Justin Gonzalez

cool. i hope thats how i die

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Anthony Gonzalez
Anthony Gonzalez

Except for the beer and cigarettes, I don't see how any of those are luxury goods. Unless makeup is made illegal, most women have to buy it in order to compete with other women in the sexual market place. I don't have any reason to assume that her clothing is particularly expensive. The music festival might have been free.

Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

If dangerous acts are what people are willing to pay for and it's the easiest way you have of making money
Well no it's not, since like I said, there are a ton of really niche fetishes that pay a fuckload that aren't in any way dangerous to your health. Well, mental and spiritual health of course but I mean immediate physical safety. "Dangerous acts" aren't even close to the top tier pay pigs. The more autistic a fetish is the more die hard autist fanboys flock to the women. Look at the guys who like body hair, those women have beta orbiters by the thousands. Mal Malloy is a good example. Also the eproctophiliacs are autistic in their devotion to their content producers. So just off the top of my head thinking of alternate niche markets if she threw her razor away and ate more rice and beans she'd have an army of devotees. The "dangerous acts are what people are willing to pay for" only holds truth up to the point that there are plenty of non dangerous niches that out earn them.

Ryder Rivera
Ryder Rivera

Except for the beer and cigarettes
You mean except for those costly luxury vices? I don't drink or smoke for that reason, because I do actually struggle to keep my head above water. That doesn't mean I suck cock on camera or sell my ass on the street corner and blame capitalism for my exploitation. People from first world countries that CHOOSE to sell themselves as a sexualised product instead of finding alternative means of income aren't more exploited than thou.
The music festival might have been free.
Sure it was.

Daniel Jackson
Daniel Jackson

How do you know that isn't what was occurring here? She had a day job. Maybe she got off on being degraded and being paid for it. This isn't that unusual, frankly.
The article says that she was doing it to make money.

Your opinion isn't more valid than anyone else's.
I disagree, I think that people who are looking out for the good of the people should make laws to ensure the health, well-being, and survival of the people.

Did I say exploitation? I just said consent. In this case, to sex acts. And it depends on the age and the exact act - most places "phase in" responsibility over a few years (for example, sexual consent at 16, filming of sex acts consent at 18, and drinking alcohol at 21)
Even then those ages are just where we draw the line as a general rule, because you have to generalize a bit when drawing up legislation.
Exploitation would be when it's non consensual. At 18 in most jurisdictions it's consensual. So... there's no exploitation at 18, in most cases. Just a trade.

I don't know if you've said this yourself, but it is common to see people on Jow Forums say that women are dumb, childlike, and immature. If this is your belief, then why would you allow them to put themselves in dangerous situations when they might not have all the information that they need?

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

I don't like this argument, it's like saying that "Pewdiepie makes a living playing video games, so anyone should be able to." Just because some people were able to exploit a niche market doesn't mean that anyone will be able to. And if a niche market exists for self-harm, then that means some people will be forced into it anyway, even if not everyone is.

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

Fucking brainlet. By that logic I can go and murder every cunt in a bank and steal their money because of CaPiTaLiSm. Don't be late for school faggot

Nicholas Gonzalez
Nicholas Gonzalez

The music festival might have been free
almost certainly Glastonbury. £248 + £5 booking fee (around $320) worth of 'free'. And that is the cheap tickets

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

No such thing as a free music festival in the UK mate. It would've been hundreds of pounds for the tickets. Why are you defending a whore anyway?

Nolan White
Nolan White

I agree that getting into the sex market is a bad idea, and one that I wouldn't make. However, the point is that I think we should help people avoid making these destructive decisions.

Lincoln Thomas
Lincoln Thomas

The article says that she was doing it to make money.
That's not necessarily "to survive" though. She did have a day job.

I disagree, I think that people who are looking out for the good of the people should make laws to ensure the health, well-being, and survival of the people.
"I disagree you're competent to do that so.... I think you're the one who needs laws made for you. Too bad if you don't like them"
By your own positioning, you don't really have a good answer for that except "I know better!"
Find a philosophy that is valid when applied both ways. It makes things make more sense and makes your arguments more robust

If this is your belief
It's not.

Isaiah Peterson
Isaiah Peterson

but it is common to see people on Jow Forums say that women are dumb, childlike, and immature. If this is your belief, then why would you allow them to put themselves in dangerous situations when they might not have all the information that they need?
I do say those things and I do hold those beliefs. But protecting women from themselves isn't a value of the current system. So, if we're going to play this "women are equal, they're strong and independent, they don't need no man" game of constant exaltation of women in our current culture, then yes, it's hypocritical to then blame men when something that happens to a strong independent women because of her own autonomy and poor decision making. They should be fucked over by adhering to the values they hold. Do you understand that *most* people here aren't arguing from a defense of porn, but against the hypocrisy and inconsistencies of the current regime? Seriously, do you understand this concept?

Ryan Barnes
Ryan Barnes

But that's destructive behavior, so we make it illegal. Same with porn. This is the exact argument that I'm making, thank you.

Brody Carter
Brody Carter

No, fuck them. Let the weak die. No one put a gun to her head, she was a greedy slag and paid the price.

Austin Edwards
Austin Edwards

Put the needle down lad, you're embarrassing yourself...

Gavin Robinson
Gavin Robinson

then that means some people will be forced into it anyway
She wasn't in any capacity forced into this. There are a variety of alternatives. You don't like the arguments because you're faced with the reality she wasn't *forced* into this by capitalism, but what just a cheap whore looking for quick cash. She got it, and she suffered the consequences of her choice to sell herself as a product.

Christian Diaz
Christian Diaz

Okay, so maybe she was living beyond subsistence survival. This doesn't change the fact that porn should be illegal. No one should be doing porn so that they can afford expensive tickets.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

Her funeral too

Ooooooh

Michael Cruz
Michael Cruz

Is alcohol expensive in South Africa? It's cheap in America. I can spend like 3 days straight drunk on less than $10.

Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

post vid faggot

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

Two birds, one stone

Dylan Reyes
Dylan Reyes

However, the point is that I think we should help people avoid making these destructive decisions.
I agree, but that's not the system we live in. And I do advocate and hopefully work towards a better system, but we don't then while we're living in clown world rules absolve strong and independent women from the bad decisions they make and then nail men to the wall whose only crime was engaging in the exact same acts of those women. If we're going to live in these crazy system, then apply the crazy fairly.

Hunter Gutierrez
Hunter Gutierrez

I disagree, I think that people who are looking out for the good of the people should make laws to ensure the health, well-being, and survival of the people.
I agree in theory. But in practice, those who think this tend to stretch all conceptions of morality and free will, and often oppress people far worse than the typical tyrant would.
Fear most the man who tells himself he's doing this for your own good.

Andrew Hernandez
Andrew Hernandez

By your own positioning, you don't really have a good answer for that except "I know better!"
I think I do know better. I know better than the murderer, the rapist, and the pedophile. Their activities should be illegal. So should porn.

Bentley Ramirez
Bentley Ramirez

Its very expensive and government tax the hell out of alcohol and cigarettes every year.

Hunter Miller
Hunter Miller

This doesn't change the fact that porn should be illegal
No, no backtracking now. The point you won't face is this is a choice she made. She wasn't forced into this to survive. And that's fucking significant, so don't just pretend your argument never existed.

No one should be doing porn so that they can afford expensive tickets.
If someone chooses to do sick stuff for unnecessary luxuries, the problem is with them, and bleeding hearts crying about how oppressed they are isn't going to stop them being shit.

Kevin Lee
Kevin Lee

But protecting women from themselves isn't a value of the current system.
I guess we just argue in different terms then. I don't argue using the logic of the current system, because I'm trying to bring about its downfall.

Carson Allen
Carson Allen

watched as she suffocated in March 2018 without calling for help
1st, how the fuck was he supposed to call for help. These camwhores keep their locations anonymous
2nd, why is he being blasted? She accepted the money and agreed to the act.
I truly hate the fucking media.

Joseph Hughes
Joseph Hughes

what webcam site was she on?

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

Yeah it's pretty expensive. I could get drunk for a day, maybe a day and a half if I drink awful cheap spirits on $10

Anthony Ortiz
Anthony Ortiz

If we're going to live in these crazy system, then apply the crazy fairly.
I think we mostly agree, we just have different ways of looking at the issue in the short term. I'm not concerned with applying the rules of the system, I just want to end it as soon as possible.

Evan Sullivan
Evan Sullivan

you seem to not understand the point i'm making. Or at least you're pretending not to. We can argue up and down about how things should be, and what would be fair if men were throwing money at chaste and virtuous housewives to neck themselves, but that's not the discussion that's going on here. We're talking about one degenerate engaged another degenerate who was offering her degenerate services to engage in degeneracy on camera. When that goes awry you don't hang all responsibility and the man because penis. Do you understand the hypocrisy in that?

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

This.

Though incel virgin fags on this board wouldn't understand.

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

If you think our smokes are bad you should see the prices in the UK. This was like half a decade ago but it was over R70 for a box of Peter Stuyvesants.

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

She made the wrong decision, but she made it in order to make money, which is necessary for her survival. Also, we don't know her life situation, there's no reason to assume that she was buying luxury goods at the same time she was doing the camwhoring.

Perhaps I have a tendency to hang more responsibility on men because of my paternalism and the fact that I'm a man myself.

Hudson Campbell
Hudson Campbell

Riar.

Lincoln Carter
Lincoln Carter

Based, she seemed pretty cute, wonder what website he used. I'd be up for getting some whores that look like her to demean themselves for money

Ryder Lewis
Ryder Lewis

NY Post
at least in death she gained some fame. she might have died some whore from cornwall, but she'll live on in the memories of NYers as a whore who had a limit.

Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nathaniel Gonzalez

Disability worker
She was disabled. pls stop bully pol

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Dylan Baker
Dylan Baker

R70 for a box of Peter Stuyvesants
About AU$35.50 (~US$25) for a 25 pack of Stuyvesants here atm. I quit about 7 or 8 years ago tho.

Lucas Rogers
Lucas Rogers

Need graphic details

Colton Barnes
Colton Barnes

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Andrew James
Andrew James

No, she was a tard wrangler

Wyatt Hill
Wyatt Hill

twitter.com/bardenhope
its the dullest twitter ever. she was in 2013 ironically against Page3, which is topless pictures in tabloid newspaper. yet 6 years later she died being a "sex worker"

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Jeremiah Bailey
Jeremiah Bailey

Would you blame a woman if she asked you to choke yourself and you died? Assuming you were a ghost or whatever and could give a shit about having died

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

Lol, how?
Hello, 911? Someone is dying!
Where are you?
Well, she's not with me, she's on the internet.
What's her location?
My Free Cams dot com
No. Where do you want us to send an ambulance?
I don't know where the camwhore lives.
Then how am I supposed to dispatch an ambulance?
Beats me. I'm just calling because a Jew laywer might somehow blame me for not trying to send an ambulance to this anonymous whore's mystery residence. Bye.

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

we don't know her life situation
Which means you can't keep beating this drum that she was only doing it to survive. That's the narrative you need to personally maintain to reframe a self pimping whore into a victim of capitalism.
there's no reason to assume that she was buying luxury goods at the same time she was doing the camwhoring.
There's no reason to assume she wasn't. You're acting like camwhores are some rare and unique thing. They aren't, most of them are middle to lower middle class that augment their income with thottery, not need it to "survive', which apparently according to you means smokes and booze and music festivals because it enables her to snag beta bux and compete with Stacy, which is totally a matter of survival.
Perhaps I have a tendency to hang more responsibility on men
You can't take all the power away from men, stop them being at the helm of their own households, society and women, and then make them take responsibility for the failures of the women that they have no control over, and even when they try to play a paternalistic role they get fired and a myriad of other social rerpercussions. You can't remove men's authority completely but then still expect them to bear responsibility, that's just fucked up and you know it.

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Blake Thomas
Blake Thomas

Read the thread, already responded to much the same post

Aaron Hill
Aaron Hill

It really depends on the circumstances, but to try and give my best answer anyway, it would probably mean that she is a danger to society.

Cameron Nelson
Cameron Nelson

I can choose on/off wether or not I identify as male/female.

Jeremiah Baker
Jeremiah Baker

Does this counts as "toll paid"?

Blake Rodriguez
Blake Rodriguez

Holy shit, that's R350 for a box of cigarettes. That's insanity. I quit a few years ago so I don't know what the prices are here, i'll have to check.

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

Perhaps I have a tendency to hang more responsibility on men because of my paternalism and the fact that I'm a man myself.
Nah, it's because you're a faggot

James Peterson
James Peterson

I think we've gotten a little off track. The only point I'm trying to make is that porn should be illegal, and that saying it's voluntary isn't an excuse because capitalism in involuntary. The only other point I had was that there should be an expectation of calling emergency services if you are interacting with someone and they start dying.

Wyatt Barnes
Wyatt Barnes

Alright fair enough, there’s already sort of precedent
buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/michelle-carter-jail-prison-texting-suicide-case
I feel like it’s a slippery slope that started a long time ago though

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

SO WHERE'S THE WEBM!

Sauce

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John Evans
John Evans

You should go live in europe somewhere probably scandinavia

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

Maybe Britain, where they have porn loicences

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Carson Long
Carson Long

I would love to, unfortunately they are being wiped out at the moment.

Angel Anderson
Angel Anderson

The article says he died in prison though, good fucking riddance
No, the point you started off making was celebrating this guy getting railroaded by the system for engaging in the exact same degeneracy a woman was engaging in, while holding her up as a poor victim. That's the point you've been making this entire time, which is hypocritical and fucked up. If you want to make laws against degeneracy, then apply it consistently and fairly. If we're going to live in a society where consent is a replacement for morality, then apply it fairly since they both consented.

Jackson Myers
Jackson Myers

Nah, the UK is going dystopian at this point

Lincoln Hill
Lincoln Hill

Interesting wording in that article.
The man is an evil pervert, but the whore is just "trying to make some extra cash".
If someone is stupid enough to strangle him- or herself, they probably should be encouraged to do so.

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Luke White
Luke White

Bear in mind, it is NY Post. A sensationalist tabloid.

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

He was the one who paid her to do something dangerous. He was in the position of power.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

Barden’s mother said her daughter — who worked as a disability carer but became a webcam girl to earn extra money — was “beautiful and intelligent” and called for better regulation of the industry.

I mean, how intelligent could she've been if she literally strangled herself to death during a session of camharlotry?

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Liam Bennett
Liam Bennett

Then why advocate for the same shit they have

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

If you lie, your mother will die in her sleep tonight.

Chase Powell
Chase Powell

Does Aland have control over its own migration policy?

Elijah Price
Elijah Price

Kek, that's pretty hot

Justin Ortiz
Justin Ortiz

Man pays to have a girl perform on webcam
Asks that she strangle herself for his arousal
Girl dies doing so
Man is called a pervert and the girl is absolved of any responsibility in ensuring her own safety
Fortunately, he died in prison and avoided prosecution, so I suppose he retains the last laugh.

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

Deracinated, cosmopolitan liberalism? I don't think I've argued for that at all.

Ryder Flores
Ryder Flores

Instead of being a wife & mother, babysit retards for a living.
Babysitting retards dosn't pay enough. Work as camwhore on the side.
actually stupid enough to hang yourself for money.
The only thing of value lost was the john. He can afford to pay whores to do stuff on camera, he must've had an important/useful job to be able to pay whores to do stupid shit like this.

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Levi Long
Levi Long

Tragic stories like this really choke me up.

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Mason Jenkins
Mason Jenkins

She was in the one who sold her services, she was the one that marketed herself as a sexual object to be bought. She could've rejected the offer at any point. She had complete control over the situation, all she had to do was not be a cheap whore. Keep trying to paint a prostitute as an unwilling victim with literally no agency though.

Adrian Davis
Adrian Davis

Yes, we're autonomous.

Julian Morris
Julian Morris

You’re arguing that somebody who SAYS something is more at fault than somebody who DOES something
People should be free to engage in such degenerate actions. It would be preferable that they be safe, but I can’t stop a person alone in their bedroom with a webcam and neither can the police.
I thought you Americans were nervous about protecting speech

Brandon Roberts
Brandon Roberts

I do say that women are dumb, childlike, and immature.
don't you dare portray a woman as an innocent victim
Seems like a contradiction.
Anyway, I agree that she make the wrong choice, but the guy was hurting someone else, and I do think that should be punished.

Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

She could’ve even taken the money and turned off the cam

James Anderson
James Anderson

How is the immigration policy then? As bad as the mainland?

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

online creep
pervert Jerome Dangar, 45
she was “left to die” by Dangar after an inquest into her death ruled it was unlawful killing.
Wtf is this shit?
A thotimus prime commits dangerous acts killing herself in the process and some how the dude enjoying himself on his time off is the bad guy?
What happened to kink shaming and all that crap?

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Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

be 45 years old and still being interested in whore women's hole
He wanted her to choke herself. That doesn't sound like she was interested in her hole, unless you're talking about her trachea.

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

Why don't you two get a room.

Asher Miller
Asher Miller

I can’t stop a person alone in their bedroom with a webcam and neither can the police.
Even if I can't stop you from hiring a hitman and killing someone, I should still punish you for having done it.

I thought you Americans were nervous about protecting speech
My political views are very, very different from the typical American's.

Aiden Nelson
Aiden Nelson

Well there's a lot of romanians thanks to fucking EU, because now they just can walk in without a VISA but other than that it's pretty ethnostatey.

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

He didn’t hire a hitman, that’s not even close to a valid comparison.
And yes I can tell, that’s why I told you to move, stop fucking it up, America is my next best option.

Evan Gomez
Evan Gomez

Just don't go full Dr. Murdoch on them

Dominic White
Dominic White

He was separately convicted of possession of extreme pornographic images in January 2019 and jailed for 15 months.
What does this even mean?

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Parker Smith
Parker Smith

He didn’t hire a hitman, that’s not even close to a valid comparison.
The point was that I can punish crimes even if I can't stop them from happening.

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

I think it means he done died.

Jayden Cox
Jayden Cox

Jerome Dangar, 45, paid her to strangle herself — then watched as she suffocated in March 2018 without calling for help
MAD LAD!

Alexander James
Alexander James

I like how they call the guy a perv but they call the bitch who died a "young woman."
Ffs call her what she is: a whore.

David Martinez
David Martinez

Seems like a contradiction.
No it's not, while I hold women to a lesser standard than men, that doesn't mean they are completely blameless and incapable of being held accountable for their actions. She made a choice to get into niche fetish camera whoring to earn money instead of taking another job. She made the decision to sell herself as a sexual commodity instead of retaining her dignity. She chose to be a whore. She should bear the consequences of those actions, this unfortunately being one of them.
but the guy was hurting someone else
How? He didn't touch her. She offered degenerate services, he purchased said services, it went to shit. Why does that make him more responsible than her? Why am I even asking, of course you're going to go on about power dynamics and blah blah blah more feminist horseshit. Amazing how you complain about deracination and other issues facing white men but still hold white men responsible at the top of your villain hierarchy.
american sees two men arguing and immediately puts it in a frame of a homosexual interaction.
Makes complete sense. you really are the gay disco.

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Jack Wood
Jack Wood

live by the kink, die by the kink

Zachary Brown
Zachary Brown

I hope some Zulus visit you tonight.

Lucas Morgan
Lucas Morgan

paste and treadmilled

Julian Cook
Julian Cook

Yes, but this should not be considered a crime. It’s not behaviour I would endorse or support but it should not be illegal to be a creepy weird porn guy.

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

You want to get your money's worth, eh?

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Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

I hope some compton or chicago kids visit you tonight

Joshua Cruz
Joshua Cruz

March 2018
Why is this popping up now, bitch has been digested by worms already.

Lucas Sanders
Lucas Sanders

There used to be this fat bitch on Chaturbate whose handle was bloomingorlando, some anons from here got her swatted on cam & others ordered her pizzas. Probably not too terribly hard to track camsluts

Nicholas Powell
Nicholas Powell

I'm sorry, but I just don't think that it should be legal for someone to pay someone else to humiliate and hurt themselves. Especially not in the domain of sex, since that has historically been an area of violence against women.

but still hold white men responsible at the top of your villain hierarchy.
It's not that at all, I just strongly believe in protecting women, and I don't think that access to degenerate porn is a human right.

Oliver Morgan
Oliver Morgan

probably the only way she could orgasm is death

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Michael Robinson
Michael Robinson

Well, I've already discussed with anons at length in this thread my feelings on whether porn should be legal.

Cooper Gonzalez
Cooper Gonzalez

stfu leaf. u don't count. go buy a $25 head of lettuce.

Daniel Cox
Daniel Cox

Yeah, and you’re wrong. Sorry!

Luis Adams
Luis Adams

Quiet down burger

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Ethan Lopez
Ethan Lopez

women have holes where apparently all their accountability leaks out of.
holy fucking kek

Jacob Cook
Jacob Cook

I just don't think that it should be legal for someone to pay someone else to humiliate and hurt themselves.
Neither do I, but in the reality that we exist right now, it is. You can't then as a society celebrate sexual liberation, women's liberation and liberty to fuck anything and everything they want with complete abandon, but then when it goes wrong blame men for the consequences. Once again, the hypocrisy is sickening. Do you acknowledge that according to mainstream morality that this is hypocritical and unfair?

You have 50 shades of grey and multiple female targeted publications talking about the virtues of BDSM and rough and risky sex, and the attack of anyone that says it's inappropriate or immoral as "slut shaming" and puritanical prudes. But when a man engages in the exact same acts that women are celebrated for embracing then suddenly he's branded as a pervert by the media, while the women are just victims and/or righteous pioneers of sexual liberation.

I don't think that access to degenerate porn is a human right.
Another strawman. Fuck you do argue like a leftist mate. I'm not talking about what should or shouldn't be, i'm discussing the reality of what's happening and what has happened. And it's fucked up to weigh a man down with all the responsibility of the outcomes of an immoral situation while painting the female participant as an angel and merely a victim of everyone and everything. Either we have a patriarchal society where men take control over women and thereby take responsibility, or we have a liberated, "equal" society where both parties bear equal blame. They're mutually exclusive, you can't have both. What you're doing is giving the women the freedom and abandon of a liberated society but the absolution of responsibility of a patriarchy while the man bears the brunt of both without either's benefits.

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

what a bore. get it?
ooga-booga

Jose Rogers
Jose Rogers

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Jeremiah Hughes
Jeremiah Hughes

Question: What's a bigger country of faggot, dog blowing, dunderheads than France?

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Zachary Jones
Zachary Jones

boo

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

This is literally God intervening.

Joshua Kelly
Joshua Kelly

Do you acknowledge that according to mainstream morality that this is hypocritical and unfair?
I will acknowledge that very little makes any sense according to mainstream morality.

What you're doing is giving the women the freedom and abandon of a liberated society but the absolution of responsibility of a patriarchy while the man bears the brunt of both without either's benefits.
I don't think I am, since I want all the laws to be rewritten. And if you're talking about the fact that I said "good riddance" regarding the guy, I don't think it's wrong to be glad that dangerous people with deviant sexuality are gone. Based on the totality of his crimes, he just seems like a dangerous and no-good guy.

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

But Dangar — who police said encouraged Barden to perform increasingly dangerous sex acts during their three-month relationship — will never face charges after he was found dead in his prison cell on April 15 this year.

Kek.

If only she'd had her choking loicence.

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Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

Good riddance.

Connor Wilson
Connor Wilson

Based, but the man still should not have been charged.

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

woke up to some good news

Ethan Morris
Ethan Morris

Fuck you do argue like a leftist mate
Objection, I'm a leftist and been arguing with him the whole time!

Henry Ross
Henry Ross

Maybe this will help clarify: I don't view violent men in the same way that I view sluts. Violent men have always and will always exist, and they are a danger to the people around them. Camwhores, on the other hand, don't pose a physical threat to the people around them, and I believe that they are mainly a product of the environment around them. It's different than the issue of adultery, because again, they are doing it to make money, not just because they love to slut.

Nicholas Myers
Nicholas Myers

America, tons of rednecks fuck dogs

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

I don't think it's wrong to be glad that dangerous people with deviant sexuality are gone
Then why didn't you celebrate her death? She was someone willing to sell self harm to deviant people. She was someone who engaged in niche sexual fetishes for public consumption. She was arguably a greater threat to public morality and decency since he consumed in private, she sold to a public audience. Once again, a man that purchases the services is the deviant, but the woman that sells and promotes it is a blameless victim and not the deviant. Your judgement of fairness is as inconsistent as anything in the mainstream.
Based on the totality of his crimes
his crimes
And of course she's blameless. Just morally spotless. Poor little victim.

I'm done with this exchange. Cheers bro.

Luke Robinson
Luke Robinson

You can’t say what every camwhore is doing and for what reason
Paying somebody to choke themselves is not a violent act

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

She has been messed up since she found out that her "sister" who is 20 years older then her and disappeared from public life and did not act for the year before and after she was born is really her mother

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Xavier Parker
Xavier Parker

leftist
defending capitalist exploitation of women
cringe

Gavin Martin
Gavin Martin

cheers

Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

this post

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Luke Walker
Luke Walker

As far as we know he wasn't violent. If your going to persecute people for "violent" fantasies then you must hold women with rape fantasies as massive instigators of rape right? They do encourage men to enact out violent situations with them.
they are doing it to make money, not just because they love to slut.
The two are inextricable. There are some women that will don't even though they're presented with the same environmental pressures and don't consider their dignity and sexuality as something that's for sale. Why don't you consider violent men a product of their environments that need to have their actions explained away? Why is he an individual completely unto himself but she's a complex creation of various factors. Your double standard is hypocrisy.

Jackson Williams
Jackson Williams

Paying somebody to choke themselves is not a violent act
Sorry, I disagree. Note that he was also already in jail for possession of "extreme pornography."

Cameron White
Cameron White

And? He didn’t put his hands on anybody without consent

Kevin Ramirez
Kevin Ramirez

then you must hold women with rape fantasies as massive instigators of rape right?
No, because women aren't capable of raping men.

Why don't you consider violent men a product of their environments that need to have their actions explained away?
Because I don't feel like I can integrate violent men into society. I do feel like I can integrate camwhores into society.

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

The TV series Alien Nation predicted this as the aliens brought web sex to earth

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Brayden Collins
Brayden Collins

dumb thot voluntarily chokes herself to death on camera
somehow this is a man's fault

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

"Hope was 21 years old and her death was tragic"
Yeah you say that but doesn't it get old trying to feign a dignified response for the sake of someone who clearly flouted the very idea of dignity? Another progenitor of societal disease has choked on its own excess; "tragedy" should be changed to "travesty" here.

Adrian Morris
Adrian Morris

But if he pays for violent porn, he is causing violence by voting with his wallet

Gavin Watson
Gavin Watson

What is a soldier for 400 alex

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

That’s not the same as committing the act

Caleb Nguyen
Caleb Nguyen

hiring a hitman isn't as bad as committing murder!

I don't think violent criminals make good soldiers, but maybe you know something I don't

Brandon James
Brandon James

Defending capitalist
You realize the left is not inherently anti-trade, right? There's a long way to go from individual private trades to full on laissez faire corporatocracy.
And yes, I'm on the left, but I'm not a communist.

Of women
You're quite sexist for someone on the left...

Landon Harris
Landon Harris

Ugghh you sound so much like a female. Go dillate your loose holes fucking she creature.

Nicholas Hall
Nicholas Hall

Because I don't feel like I can integrate violent men into society.
I provide the obvious example of soldiers and you move the goalposts
And once again we’re back in this circular argument you seem to enjoy: the man did nothing even morally close to hiring a hitman. Go to sweden or greenland.

Robert Anderson
Robert Anderson

paint a literal whore as an angel
paint the MAN who was viewing her as a pervert
Nah this is an old archetype man.
It's legal to hook, but not be a john.
To protec the wahmenzes you understand.

I mean whores.

Matthew Gonzalez
Matthew Gonzalez

oh carlos

Henry Davis
Henry Davis

And if she sells violent porn she's causing violence with her deviancy.
No, because women aren't capable of raping men.
But they are capable of inspiring violent fantasies and deviances by both encouraging men to roleplay in that manner and telling men violent and rough sex that mimics rape is what they desire. If we're going to persecute "violent" fantasies, then women are undoubtedly the greatest thought criminals.
Because I don't feel like I can integrate violent men into society.
Name a nation that wasn't founded in blood. Society is built by violent men. Who the fuck do you think enforces laws? Pacifist police forces?
I don't think violent criminals make good soldiers
Name a single war that didn't involve a genocide. No offense but you sound like you come from a very sheltered upbringing.

Ryan James
Ryan James

And yes, I'm on the left, but I'm not a communist.
Go suck Soros dick then
You're quite sexist for someone on the left...
I'm neither left nor right, but above and beyond

Carson Morales
Carson Morales

Shit like this is why i don't even flinch when i see vids of Roasties being killed.

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Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

the man did nothing even morally close to hiring a hitman
I'm using it as an analogy to show guilt, not to claim equivalency

Nolan Russell
Nolan Russell

The actual legal issue here seems to be that he knew she was in trouble but didn't call cops/ambulance/whatever.

I payed an Australian farmer to tape his love sessions with a big kangaroo, he just passed away and is bleeding profusely from his rectum.

Who do I call in Australia? He obviously didn't give me his private address, can you go to AussieCocksuckers.com right now and bring him the goddamn ambalamps?

The actual legal issue

The legal issue my dear kangaroo-fucker is that Modern Western Civilization is a Feminist Theocracy and he was guilty before the fact because he was a fucking-white-male.

Just imagine the reverse happening, the police trying to convince a woman because she payed a man to jerk off and strange himself on webcam, they would laugh it off like nothing!

He was separately convicted of possession of extreme pornographic images in January 2019 and jailed for 15 months.

Moreover they searched his PC and found some bad porn, no kiddyporn either just violent porn, probably facefucking.com and they jailed him for 15 months, when they give actual niggers rapists 24 months.

They killed him in jail, and the fucking FEMINIST male hating police captain cuck had this to day for his death:

“We are sorely disappointed that this case can no longer bring any legal justice for Hope.”

We fucking-white-males are now the niggers of this doomed society.

I hope there is another World War before I die, seriously.

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Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

a creepy paid her to do-
the pervert urged her to-
she was beautiful and intelligent

this fucking clown world.
A degenerate roastie slut cashed in on her slut behaviour and somehow she's an intelligent but naive innocent victim who was groomed by an evil perverted creep. Women need to be cancelled.

Angel Clark
Angel Clark

But Dangar will never face charges after he was found dead in his prison cell on April 15 this year.

Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than is being reported.

Sebastian Howard
Sebastian Howard

Man evul, woman angelz

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Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

NO VIDEO.

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

It's the police's job to find her. All you have to do is give them the screen name and description of events and they track her down.
Wouod they have been able to get there in time to do anything? Probably not, but it would cover his ass by showing that he tried to help her.

It's kind of like if you run over someone in your car. It might be completely their fault for jumping out in front of you, but if you don't stop and render aid you're gonna be in big trouble.

Colton Gray
Colton Gray

2nd, why is he being blasted?
he was arrested and killed himself in prison.

Wyatt Bell
Wyatt Bell

And if she sells violent porn she's causing violence with her deviancy.
Sure, but if I outlaw porn it seems like the problem will be solved. I'm not really concerned that she's going to stab me or rape my daughter just because she did some porn for money, but maybe I'm wrong.

But they are capable of inspiring violent fantasies and deviances by both encouraging men to roleplay in that manner and telling men violent and rough sex that mimics rape is what they desire. If we're going to persecute "violent" fantasies, then women are undoubtedly the greatest thought criminals.
I don't think that roleplaying necessarily inspires violent crime. It would be awfully hard to make it illegal as well. Plus it's hot.
Name a nation that wasn't founded in blood. Society is built by violent men. Who the fuck do you think enforces laws? Pacifist police forces?
There's clearly a difference between police officers and people who pay for "extreme porn."

Name a single war that didn't involve a genocide. No offense but you sound like you come from a very sheltered upbringing.
The American Revolution?

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

Exploitatiom of WAHMEM !1!1 but men being slaves to women since the dawn of time = fine.

Nicholas Adams
Nicholas Adams

Who do I call
In this case, both parties were in the UK, and it's likely the guy knew she was in the UK. Accents and all, as well as several months of increasingly intense return business.
Literally any police contact in the UK would have covered his ass
The legal issue
The coroner found that it was an unlawful death because he didn't attempt to do anything. I'm literally talking about what the legal finding was here, and it's based on a commonwealth norm of an expectation of duty of care when you see someone dying/dead.
I don't care that she's a girl doing camgirling, and the coroner didn't seem to care either. In the UK, and most of the commonwealth, if you know someone is dying/dead you have a legal responsibility to at least try to do something. Once you've reported it, it's the authority's problem. It would have avoided the unlawful death ruling, basically (making it an accidental death, most likely)
Porn on his computer
Yeah, and I posted the link to an older, more comprehensive article where they explained the conviction. Snuff stuff, basically. -

this guy also explains it well

Joseph Howard
Joseph Howard

Each gender has its own role. Making porn is not in the role of either gender.

Justin Anderson
Justin Anderson

kek

Dominic Williams
Dominic Williams

How could he know she was not acting? Also post link to vid .. For reasons..

Easton Long
Easton Long

I'm not really concerned that she's going to stab me or rape my daughter
So all men are guilty until proven innocent? You have a lot of deeply ingrained feminist talking points.
I don't think that roleplaying necessarily inspires violent crime.
But what he was doing was a "violent act'? He had a fantasy, and got her to enact it. Multiple women have legit violent rape fantasies and try to get their boyfriends to assume the role of rapists. That's far more "violent" an act than he did.
There's clearly a difference between police officers and people who pay for "extreme porn."
Yes, and there's clearly a distinct line between the two. Men with lots of testosterone that assume the protector and enforcer rolls within our societies clearly never ever have deviant fantasies and soldiers never pursue rough sex or anything of the sort. Yes, men who engage in violence we sanction as a people never have any thoughts, desires or fantasies that deviate from what society considers acceptable. You have a very clear understanding of the male psyche.
The American Revolution?
There were multiple attrocities during the revolution. The war wasn't fought by strictly moral actors that neve

Levi Hughes
Levi Hughes

He is viewing her through a fucking webcam. She didn't have to really cut off her oxygen. What a complete retard.

Adrian Hall
Adrian Hall

Can you get anymore thot than having an unfinished sleeve tattoo on your arm. Showing you have zero respect for your body and horrible judgement with a sense of taking things to the very extreme...While having not enough financial means to get the job done.

Screams: must take cam whore or stripper gig tho finish the tatt with funds.

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

I think that there's a difference between a fantasy and paying someone to carry something out.

Fair point.

Look, I'll concede that maybe I went too far in saying "good riddance" about the guy, since I don't actually know what the "extreme porn" was that he had. I still think that he should have called emergency services though.

Michael Ward
Michael Ward

Can of beer and a fag in one hand very classy.

Jack Rivera
Jack Rivera

poor girls

Lucas Miller
Lucas Miller

youtube.com/watch?v=B5TGzbeyiJ4

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

Nice catch, user. And they referred to those Aliens as invaders while also covering those humans who were against the species mixing as the bad guys.

I still think it's also apt to Muslims invading, and taking over with different cultures and customs and how they are here to stay whether you like it or not, American

Benjamin Phillips
Benjamin Phillips

Anything not authorized by an Imam

Jayden Ramirez
Jayden Ramirez

The actual legal issue here seems to be that he knew she was in trouble but didn't call cops/ambulance/whatever.

Okay lets assume that to be the case okay. Suppose I pay a girl to eat a bunch of hot dogs on chaturbate.com. Her profile says she is from California. That is the absolute closest I know to her location. Meanwhile, I live in Ohio. She starts choking to death on a hot dog, and it's clear she is choking.

The ONLY thing I know about her location is "Texas". Suppose I multi task the mother fucker out of this. I hit some "contact site admin" button? I don't know of any buttons like that on these sites, but maybe there is one. I notify the staff... Meanwhile as I'm typing that all in I call 911 and say "The webcam girl from Texas is choking to death on a hot dog, help her!"... They respond with "Sir, where in Texas?" And I'm like "I don't know..."

I rethink things and check her wall carefully find her wish list with an address on where to send her the dildo she wants... And it's a PO BOX... not her actual location...

Meanwhile the girl is dead by now, and eventually the site admins eventually figure out her location because they gotta contact her bank telling them there is a dead girl, and they send that info to the police... Like a day or two later a cop shows up to her house? Lots of investigating and tracing gotta go on to find these girls.

These sites do not give out the information on location of the girls in a way that you could send help to them.

Even if a girl was tied up and left to die. There is a sign that says, There is a bomb placed next to her with a 24-hour countdown. A whole day countdown... Odds are that even with help of site admins, and police, and the bank, and all parties working together as fast as possible... Bitch gonna blow the fuck up way before anyone busts her door down.

Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart

In this case, both parties were in the UK, and it's likely the guy knew she was in the UK.

That narrows our research quite nicely Australian Batman, there are 60 million Brits and so we are done to 30 million Bongs with a cunt!

5 Minutes to check any of those 30 million bong tarts:

285.198882 years

You might arrive a little late jumping up and down Buckingham palace on your kangaroo but you what is important is that:

AT LEAST you tried!!!!

Dominic Barnes
Dominic Barnes

Shrödinger's cat of female agency

Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

So that guy an heroed in prison over watching a camwhore and having 'extreme porn' in his data storage
And he's the bad guy according to jewvag press
And noone here is shedding a tear even though we all come from /b/
What porn did you have at any moment in time?
Ever watched a camwhore?
You could be that guy

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

AT LEAST you tried!!!!
That's actually the point. He was considered culpable because he didn't try anything. That's how it works.
Ignoring US law applies here, analyzing using UK/Commonwealth norms as that's what the real situation involved... In this case, you'd have the record of your attempt on file in various places. 911, the local cops, FBI, whatever. It's literally "You tried". Once the authorities know, it's kinda their problem how they find her.

Levi Clark
Levi Clark

The more things you make illegal, the more criminals you'll create. I don't know if this is roundabout bait to legitimize something fuether down some hypothetical conversation or if you're so deep in your idealism that it's starting to poke out the other side, but you clearly haven't been asking yourself the right questions.

Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson

bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-46781259

Jesus Hebrew Christ this is the most Britisher man alive, crooked teeth and all.

I bet those were all 100% fake snuff movies, but you and the (((pathologist))) would probably consider the three-tited hooker in Total Recall "authentic".

Dangar was sentenced to 15 months for each offence, to run concurrently, and made subject to a sexual risk order.

This is the UK, mind you not some Dixieland state with their post slavery re-enslaving sentences, in the UK a nigger refugees that rapes a minor gets 2 years of jail!

This faggot got 15 months for watching porn.

But make sure jail is no joke for a white man they also killed him in jail

His phone is also to be destroyed.

And his penis should be salted!

Clear sign of irrational hate for make-up crimes in a DEGENERATE, DECADENT AND DOOMED feminist society.

The bongs clearly deserve to have their blood mixed with that of niggers and then to have borderline retard grandkids and eventually to be whipped out by the Chinks.