Trump Supporter Decries Socialism....and then Admits He's on Socialist Social Security

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social security is not socialist you retard they literally paid for it

That's why I love Yang

All the boomers will cry about UBI being socialism until they realize they are the welfare queens they cry about.

kek imagine thinking a ponzi scheme is paid for

>social security is not socialist you retard they literally paid for it

Wait are you retarded?

SSDI can only be used if you pay a certain amount into it. It's an insurance policy.

>SSDI can only be used if you pay a certain amount into it. It's an insurance policy.

We aren't talking about dat m8. We weren't talking about SSDI.

We are talking about social security. Everyone pays the social security tax, it goes into a general fund. It's redistributed to all Americans. Again how is that not socialism.

GOD, I HATE BOOMERS MORE THAN NIGGERS

I'm a Socialist and he's right.

If you are collecting out of it it is paid for. It is us suckers who have to wait 40 or more years to find nothing left who are the dumb fucks.

See

Socialism is when the government thought social liberal programs redistributes wealth to equalize society.

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>thinking socialism and social security are the same thing

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It's not real Socialism if people pay their own money into you absolute dumbass. It has to be taken by force away from the rich, who summarily should be executed by firing squad.

The Republican candidate in 1936 explicitly called social security socialism.

If you are forced to pay into it, the most capitalistic option is to take away your share.
Imagine being forced to pay into a system all your life, then refuse to take money from it "to own the libs."
What's next? Not buying food to own the libs because farmers get subsidies and that's socialism?
Fucking retards all over this board.

Socialism isn’t socialism when we do it, it’s free market capitalism

boomers are not going to fully collect, it will cost too much. Either inflation or cuts

>socialist social security

>Be forced to pay socialist taxes at gunpoint
>Not try to reimburse your investment somehow
If he was allowed to save that money he'd probably have more money in his pocket than the State gave him and/or could've afforded a more reliable private plan (with the huge difference that the private plan can be sued and can't change the terms while the State can't be sued and can change at any point the terms).

Damn you got us...i guess we gotta let beaners and niggers fuck our country up now.

>and then Admits He's on Socialist Social Security
If he's the average white man in America, he paid into the SS trust fund his entire life, and will not get back what he put into it, in terms of adjusted dollars.

So you're bitching about him getting back PART of what was taken from him?

You're right about one thing, though...paying through the nose and getting very little in return IS socialism...

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Boomers are 100% responsible for the demographic and cultural problems

Pretty sure the young are paying for it, faggot.

>Trying to get back money that was forcibly taken from you is bad
Leftism is a mental illness.

>demographic problems

Ted Kennedy and a couple of other "greatest generation" Were the ones that passed the immigration reform bill of 1965, which fucked up our demographics to the point it is today.

Before them, we only accepted European immigrants.

Got any bonds in your retirement plan? Buy any U.S. bonds, personally?

Other people are paying you for them, too.

Shill
Controlled opposition

If I were of age I'd take social security too, while wishing for it's demise. Opting out of it does nothing for you. Your kids are still being taxed for it.

It's not voluntary retard.
This. Social security is 15% per year.
If I had 15% more of my salary invested I'd have a lot more than the state is going to give me.

Legal immigration didn't fuck up the demographics, Boomers letting in 40+ million illegal spics and doing nothing about it did.

Socialist programs take from the individual to provide for society.

Social security is an individual program. You receive an individual payment based on your individual contribution.

It's really that simple.

Legal immigration fucked it a bit too. Illegals and their fucking anchor babies ruined the majority though.

ITT: morons who pretend not to know the difference between socialism and a social program
IOT: morons who pretend not to know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants
SSDD

Legal immigration is worse than illegal immigration. WTF are you talking about??

>Social security is 15% per year.
It used to be closer to 17% for boomers. They lowered it to 12.4% currently.

And don't let them scam you with that "your employer pays half of that!" nonsense.
Your employer lowers your take-home pay to cover the 6.2% he's supposed to be paying.
To him, SS taxes are just another expense in the outlay to hire a worker, and if he cannot lower take-home to cover the other expenses in that outlay, then you are not profitable to him, and you will not be hired.

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The only reason it's a ponzu scheme is because they stole from it.
You fuckin dipshits don't seem to understand that, even though I disagree and would have voted against social security, when it was established, if they never stole money from the system, it would have been self sustaining.
It actually, surprisingly, would have worked for many generations.
Instead, the government got rich off the backs of Americans and sold them a lie, and is now leaving them without a pot to piss in once they're elderly.

It's also another glaring example why communism and socialism fails, utterly, every time.
If you think the guys up top aren't getting fat off the land, you're rerarded.

Until the 2000s about half of legal immigration in the US was family reunification and were immigrants from Europe

>Boomers letting in 40+ million illegal spics and doing nothing about it did.
I think you mean "libtards."
The Republican party is full of boomers that have been trying to fight this shit for decades. Trump is the current incarnation of this.
Boomers also fought libtards on gun control, and won bigly...so YOU benefit from that, too.

Ein Rand took it.

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Reagan, Bush, Bush and Trump have all done jack shit to stop illegal immigration.

That is not true whatsoever. Most of the immigration since 1965 has been from the third world. You need to look into "Adios America" by Ann Coulter, "Death of the West" By Pat Buchanan, and "Alien Nation" by Peter Brimelow.

The laws changed significantly in 1965 but you're mistaken if it was just 1965. It didn't get peak bad until the W. administration.

Boomers have pretty much ruined the country.... instead of voting for people who’d stop this shit they went with white guilt... baka

My bitch is that you don't get it all back.
If I could get back every dime I put in, with prevailing interest for each year, I would leave SS like a shot, and sink the money into a Berkshire-Hathaway investment fund.

I'd get a HELL of a lot better return, with insured investments, and I could leave it all to my kids.

Supporting trump is a mental illness.

most of polacks are subhuman parasites as well

Friendly reminder that you will never see a dime of what you paid into Social Security

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Where is the option provided for me to opt out of paying into Social Security?

Disability Insurance is a part of Social Security.
I paid into it for 30 years but am now drawing way more than I ever paid in.

What the fuck does social security have anything to do with seizing the means of production?

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>probably
This

Then why was a big chunk of my pay check being taken from me for 30 years?

As always, your choice of candidates was tightly controlled, and boomers had no internet to communicate to each other with, and no way to spread ideas and counter Jew propaganda.

If the current generations are any better in this regard, it is due to the instant communication and exchange of ideas made possible by the boomer-created internet.

Trump was NOT one of the elect, yet many people, including boomers, voted for him instead of for the pre-selected candidates.
Boomers never had an outlier to vote for, before Trump.

“Socialist social security”

You love yang because you’re a retarded beta male who will never achieve anything

No, you'll get something back, there is a surplus of about 3 billion bucks in the fund.
That was the surplus Reagan said would go to subsidize boomer's SS, back when he raised SS rates to create it. Most of the boomers are dead now, and never saw any of it.

But they're afraid to cash in those bonds, because they would be paid for with tax money, and that means transferring funds from some other source, or raising taxes.
Raising taxes is out of the question, because the average taxpayer is tapped out, and the wealthy own the government, so they're not going to allow their own taxes to be raised, so I guess that surplus will be a surplus forever.

Rumor has it that there IS a way to do this, but it won't be revealed by the government, for obvious reasons, and the Jew media will never let it be disseminated freely because, Jews.

I guess you were "lucky" you got disabled...

Maybe he is against it even though it's his best option under the current system.
Maybe he wants to change the current system.

Have you heard of the concept of "the deserving poor" ?

Have you losers ever worked a job? I agree Social Security is fucking shit and should be abolished but come on, no one is this retarded

>Most of the boomers are dead now, and never saw any of it.
>Baby boomers were born between 1944 and 1964. They're current between 55-75 years old (76 million in U.S.)

???

That is true, it took a few decades to get the demographic change really going.

There's exceptions for SS, if you're a filthy foreigner or an illegal working on getting a greencard like 4 billion beaners you don't have to pay, some students and religious organizations don't pay either

Yes I have and yes SS is a ponzi scheme

To pay the interest on govt. debt, of course.

It’s a socialist program you can’t opt out of you retartds. Why would you decline benefits you were forced to pay for at gun point? I would opt out of ss if I could

>Work
>Pay taxes
>Don't support socialism (free shit for everyone)
>Somehow, you shouldn't have access to the money YOU worked for
All leftshits should be eaten

Social Security is a socialist program* - FACT

It's not pure SOCIALISM because it's just a fucking program.

You faggots need to stop conflating shit

>As always, your choice of candidates was tightly controlled
Oldest boomers were roughly 35 years old during Reagan's first election and only became a more prominent voting block thereafter. His list accurate. Boomers ruined America.

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A litteral retard

>government takes the money I would have set aside for retirement
>retire on it
>bwahaha socialist
>government takes the money I would have set aside for security
>call the cops when getting robbed
>bwahaha socialist

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I bet he got btfo and then put up the one time he caught some

>Socialist Social Security

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B R A I N L E T L E A F

>Pay into a fund
>Get money out of it
>OMG SOCIALISM HAHAHAHAHA BLUMPF BTFO

Fpbp

>religious organizations
That sounds like the loophole.

Why am I paying into a program that I won't benefit from?

Reagan was a chosen candidate. He was running against other chosen candidates.
The vetting is done in the primaries, and those they don't like are given less press coverage and have no access to Republican or Democrat money.

Trump had his own money, and the internet was excited about him, so he got plenty of press and was also powered by his charisma.

No, boomers did not have any real choice for president, during most of their voting years.

This. The state forces you to pay into social security, you'd be a fucking moron not to take the payout. That doesn't mean you're in favor of social security, you were literally forced into at gunpoint by the state.

Also, yangniggers lecturing anyone on principles, top kek

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Seriously, fuck boomers.

Of course hes on ss. If you live in a socialist state and you don't take advantage of the services then youre effectively handicapped compared to everyone else. It's not an ethical issue it's a policy issue. Ss shouldn't exist. It should be legislatively repealed. The answer wont come from wagging your finger at it's consumers.

This is a lie.
Boomers are taking out more money then they put in. Due to inflation and longer life spans.

You're right, but ss is socialism exactly because it's compulsory to lay into it.

He worked his whole life paying into his social security. He gets back what he paid. Retard.

Benefiting from government services that are publicly funded =/= socialism.

Social security is much like roads, street lights, firefighters, police, and utilities. We all benefit from it but we don't "own" any of it, the state does. There's no redistribution of wealth going on with any of these services. If anything is just the status quo taxes of living in civilization.

>Annual interest payments approaching the same cost of all military expenditure, despite historically low rates
>Pension funds designed for 8% interest rate rapidly approaching insolvency, at the near 1% rate
>Cant raise rates for fear of skyrocketing the cost of servicing debt, causing austerity.
>This is good. This is normal.
.t burger

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Q predicted this

Q drop 2341

2*(4*2)+1=17

Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet

>it's true

>its contradictory to take advantage of a system you are forced into
THE number one most retarded leftist position

THE
ETERNAL
BOOMER

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Also him bitching about the hold man saying ghetto. Good things this white kid was on standby to be offended for all the poor black people.

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>socialism is when the government does a thing
Why are my fellow burgers so stupid?

Woah, and internet "experts" say Wing Chun and Kung Fu doesn't work. Boxing/MMA fags btfoed in one vid

Shit like this is why boomers deserve the rope

You where forced to pay a tax all your life, and now that you're to old to work you accepted some of that money back??? OMFG YOU SOCIALIST!!!!

That's right, getting anything out of your tax money that you were forced to pay is somehow hypocritical. The only way to not be a hypocrite is to bear all disadvantages but miss out on any benefits.

Wrong, it is why YOU deserve the rope. If the typical boomer averaged $50,000 salary over their career, both the boomer AND his employer contributed 7.65% to SS. That is 15.3%. 15.3% x $50,000 = $7,650 per year. Investing that amount at normal s & P 500 return rate of 7%, that would amount to over $2 million dollars. That money, invested at the same 7%, would return $140,000 per year, and when the boomer died, would leave $2 million to his heirs. The boomers were robbed blind, to subsidize scumbags like you. The government steals 15.3% of my pay each year. I want it back, with interest. It is not our fault that the government stole our retirement money and spent it.

>Be against capitalism
>Buy food
WOW OH MY GOD!