What do you guys think of Shiva? Been listening to Hindu mantras and reading about Shiva lately...

What do you guys think of Shiva? Been listening to Hindu mantras and reading about Shiva lately, seems like a really based deity. I don't wanna become religious, but I'm starting to feel these emotions christians describe about Jesus, but for Shiva.

What's going on?

>inb4 christards just call it demonic

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It’s demons

As long as your not a muzzie or a kike.
>t.catholic

go away satan

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Shiva the destroyer

I don't believe in Jewish deities.

This. Take the Christpill.

Better than being a Jew worshiper.

Jews.

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I've cried out to Jesus countless times, he never responds. Besides his father is a cosmic psychopath.

Shiva smacked the head off of Brahma for creating this world of suffering. He directly beat the shit out of the demiurge, that's based as fuck.

Christianity is opposite of Judaism.

Shiva is also represented as a massive buttplug... BASED

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you have a disgusting and perverse mind user, lay off the porn.

THE LINGAM IS A BENIS. MAYBE THAT TO HIM IS A BUTTPLUG?

it's actually a benis and a stanky snatch. hinduism is wild. on one hand you can sing songs with your bros, on the other, perform black magic and have sex with dead people

Sorry but my knowledge of Hinduism is one entry level book by Guenon and the Bhagavad Gita and as such I always kind of preferred Krishna but worship who you wish.

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whatever bro. Lord Buttplug will one day answer your mantras

Someone who doesn't have any good arguments left will resort to childish insults as a last resort.

God damn, fuck you insufferable boomer fucking retard. Kill your self.

Shiva was the one who originally conquered India and civilized them, correct?

Fine I'll give a secret. The entity "Shiva" was who Jesus referred to when he said "before abraham I am". I'm assuming Shiva was the original conquerer of righteousness preflood and the one who caused it. I'm fuzzy on the narrative and am comparing it to another lost story. What do the Hindus say about the return of Shiva? Thats going to be interesting for a lot of us.

i was a hindu for 5 years nigger, get rekt haha. it's a retarded religion.
depending on the sect, shiva is the ultimate or highest god. basically he's the super consciousness that exists eternally. is shaiva sects he is mostly synonymous with brahman but there are differences.

Ya know, I'm not quite sure yet that just because it's a different religion that all of them are exactly wrong. I don't believe in the one religion thing and I'm sure most religions are satanic trash but I would be willing to entertain that we might be referring to essentially the same god or something similar in that nature. I'll ask you two questions. What did you cry out to jesus for? What are the primary tenants of your religion and why do you believe in them/it?

I was a christian for 20 years, LOLOL GET EXTRA MEGA REKT LOLOLOL

Now what?

wrong person
you were probably a prot so you owned yourself

I asked jesus for help with my health and I'm still fucked up. Also I don't have any religion at the moment, I'm just exploring.

Well he definitely isn't the highest God. Damn Indians are dumb. No wonder they were so easily conquered.

Didn't have any denomination. By the way how petty is your god if minute details like that matter to him? I view the christian god from the gnostic perspective, he's a psychopathic deity, just read the Bible, Jaweh is by far the most heinous character in that book.

One thing that you need to remember is that people who created Vedic religion is much closer to you biologically than people who created Judaism and Judaism for goyim.

Fagans = Poo gods worshipers.

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In that case I invite you to try to convert me.

Im more of an ifrit guy.

it says rudra is the supreme being right in the vedas, and one of the oldest upanishads mention him as brahman.

I've thought that Hinduism might be the original Aryan religion.

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I can understand that. The problem is that god don't do that kind of stuff. The only thing god gonna help you with is completing what he wants you to do. He also knows why you're doing stuff so you can't necessarily pull some tricky shit like doing for god so that he rewards you. It seems to work that way to some extent but not in totality.

Generally the most blessed christians that converted to christianity work like this.
> become christian because it appears to give a good life
> do the christian stuff
> get some minor blessings
> have it all taken away because your spirit isn't ready for the temptation that accompanies greater blessings
> actually maintain faith and build a more solid, virtuous self
> become even more blessed than before.
The fact that you're upset about your health and not recognizing the plights of others and not thankful just to be on gods beautiful green earth is why you're not getting the answers you hope for user.

How so?

Its because Hinduism is real. There are infinite deities (telors that have power over nature, but are higher up than humans) that compose God aka ultimate reality.

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>The fact that you're upset about your health and not recognizing the plights of others and not thankful just to be on gods beautiful green earth is why you're not getting the answers you hope for user.

Dude, all I do is sit here and wallow in the missery of the whole world and much suffering there is that's way beyond my own.
This world is a themepark for a sociopathic deity.

How so? Look around you, you're stuck in a hell realm created by this demiurge your worship so much, suffering is the norm for most sentient beings that walk the earth. If your god is all good and all powerful he would instantly fix his mistake.

Communism never has, and never will work.

why is that wrong?

I'd rather say that is originated from the same source as other Indo-European religions, but ended up to be most well-preserved because branch that settled in India had best conditions and resources that allowed them to free enough work for writing, philosophy and contemplation unlike germanics or slavs who were too busy trying not to die in a harsh forest that spanned entire Europe while having no access to stone for building. It also was out of the way of ultra-contagious semitic cultural virus during its initial expansion.

It worked in the past. Its goal is the complete denial of nature. Marxism is the forth stage of Abrahamism (after Islam) and destruction is it's goal.

Why do you choose to wallow in misery user? Why don't you recognize that as his call to action in whatever amount that you can muster?

Mecha Shiva!

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Are you referring to small primitive tribes of people that live in a primarily socialistic manner?

No. I'm referring to the Soviet Union, Antifa, modern education systems, the EU... everything Marxist or pseudo-Marxist.

fuck Hinduism its all about Asatruism

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Well, it can work if you want to be primitive.
One man, and one generation of men, can't create culture. It is done through multiple generations. To bring fruits of work over generations, you need inheritance. To assure proper inheritance, you need private property institute for material wealth, and institute of monogamous marriage for assurance that it is your blood who inherits what you built. Communism seeks to abolish both.

.... all failed or are trash that don't accomplish anything. EU is the only arguable one and it's got some major threats.

I'm assuming that you're two different people.
I'll also ask, do you believe in the alchemist belief of "as above, so below"?

Shiva is tbe demiurge. Divide and conquer strategy for the sheep.

based

>do you believe in the alchemist belief of "as above, so below"?
I'm not even sure if I understand full implications of this belief, and only know what jewgle gives about it.

The only difference is the cultural background. The structures are the same and they both facilitate each other. They are both models of reality.

Re-read what I've said. The goal of communism is destruction. Anyone who states otherwise is deceiving you. Don't fall for anything telling you that communism is anything beneficial for people.
>"as above, so below"
Yes this is true.

to truly understand the spiritual you should learn about a bunch of religions including hinduism, christianity, gnosticism, zoroastrianism, and roman/greek myth

The universe is fractal in nature. The patterns that make up small things are just small versions of the patterns that make up big things

I was never insinuating that I thought communism was good or would work.

so we have two statements that you agree to
communism fails
and
as above so below
therefore if we see it in the world it must be the case that's what it is above as well
if communism fails or is only capable of primitive accomplishments then a collection of minor deities that are of one grouping will fail in the same manner.
Based 1 lord god is based.

massive dick

shiva is good to envision yourself as ... as you traverse this maya filled earth with women who are ever trying to disrupt the discipline and focus of shiva ... but shiva remains unmoved, deep in his penance, his meditation. Also shiva has a dedicated sincere consort called parvati ... shiva does not stand by himself, he is half man and half his female counterpart .. so this god is perfect for married couples who both believe in shiva/parvati. Shiva also has the freedom to get angry at times and go on crazy lunatic dances called shiva tandava ... but it's all good later as he embraces big breasted parvati in his arms

the mantras themselves have some power but
eventually you got to understand you are beyond shiva .....

to get the essence of vedas in a single mantra ... just use Gayatri Mantra
It makes you base pilled just by contemplating it as you encounter difficult situations in life.

still I prefer a syncretic mix of christ's words and hindu philosophy and buddhist meditations

Christ said you are God Psalm 82 6, John 10 34

This is what a God realized Hindu is also supposed to believe/be

The path to heaven is through divine love .... not some mantra or some meditation

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Thats only known to be applicable in 3 dimensional space with max, 2 dimensional math. quarternions lose the commutative property such that j x k != k x j
there's further extrapolated number systems that are used in higher mathematics and physics called octonians that further lose these properties. It's rather unconvincing that since it is the case in higher dimensions are logical properties fail that fractals would necessarily behave the same way at higher dimensions. I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying that as far as I know, you can't even come close to proving it.

Then probably no, I don't think it is that simple.

Based God is based. No need to reject the deities when they are also true, based and work in their place. These are tolerated and manifested by God.

>Fagans
lol
I'm stealing this one

You finna get straight dabbed on by some demons

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t. got dabbed on by neanderthal volcano demon Yahweh

Well you're going to call the thing that kicks your ass and nearly destroys you your supreme being, sure. He definitely wasn't though.

it's a fine distinction but the devil is in the details since idolatry is a sin.
if all of gods different acts are worshiped as different manifest versions of god why not just worship god? Like i can accept the idea that we all have some portion of god residing in us but that doesn't mean were supposed to worship little nuggets of god were supposed to worship the entirety.

>essence of vedas in a single mantra
en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gayatri_Mantra

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I'm a Christian who came through it through various other spiritualities. Basically if God exists, it would follow that humans would all imagine their own versions of Him. Shiva and other hindu gods are, IMO, one of two things: 1) Humans experiencing God and trying to explain His existence all on their own or the more exciting 2) These were actual beings (not "gods"), a kind of hero or superhuman. Bible briefly accounts for this possibility in Genesis 6:4 "The Nephilim were in the earth in those days.... the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown"

Lol hinduism is definitely satanic and full of demon deities

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What is this?

There is only energy
Gnostic believes are right in that sense, there is good energy and bad. Both can give you extreme powers and pleasure. I meditated and did several things to enhance my „bad“ energy and it gave mr extreme pleasure, imagine laying down and feeling hands on your body, touching you till you orgasm.
As soon as i stopped meditating and working with this energy, it stopped. The same goes with good energy. Both exist and are valid. Having both and realising it is the path to enlightenment. For me god is not bound to this universe and dualistic system, but more so the demiurg, beeing „good“ leads to god anyway

lol literally all world religions are demonic trash besides Christianity, They all teach the same shit besides Christianity. The very fact that people actually believe they themselves as fallen humans can achieve enlightenment or "send" themselves to heaven is so pitiful.

>No need to reject the deities when they are also true
There is no deity other than God and only He is worthy of worship. Stuff your Polytheism where the sun doesn't shine. Jow Forums is Monotheistic board.

Jesus isnt a magic wizard you wish things to. That is not how praying works.

I worship God in his entirety as best I can, but how do you give yourself an image of the all-mighty? You yourself are giving power to a deity, because you being human can not fathom his greatness and can only model an image of it. Deities work in this way. They 'point' to the elements of greatness under God's law. They have value because they fit to appropriate contexts and can be seen as pathways all in alignment of God's law.

Behold, the golem.

Those are all spiritual Demons, literally larping since pre flood to create world religions. They all worship the same demonic shit when you trace all those "gods" origins. This is why Christianity isnt a religion.

They’re everywhere

Well, you can tell when something is a demon when it lies or if its afraid. Be courageous, align your will with God's, speak truth and demons can not touch you. They will cower.

He's with you in every moment. Dip yourself in his love.
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were specifically not supposed to image him. There's a reason he's always described as a blinding light, the most key part of it being blinding.

Satan is a clever sob though. Look at how he managed to take control of the catholic church. After all of the other religions were made to lead us astray into worshiping him he even went so far as to teach basically Christianity but not actual Christianity.

and yet he shows himself to you only in parts.

>summoning literal demons
Repent before it's too late

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No, not once has god ever shown himself to me. He's only ever done for me on occasion and helped me greatly to do his will. I'm not even close to spiritually capable of dealing with god showing himself to me.

How come abrahamite deity is both benevolent and omnipotent but then its alleged enemy has all control in the world and sends all the humans abrahamite deity cares about to alleged eternal torture that abrahamite deity will inflict on you if you fail to live your short transient life correctly? Come on, impress me with some sick mental gymnastics.
Damn cosmology in judaism is a fucking joke. No wonder its derivatives needed to either inject themselves when culture is at its absolutely weakest, or employ extreme amounts of violence to spread.

You are lost and not as smart as you think you are. After all you are not God for He is only One and He has no equals. Consider doing this .

Sorry but I'm not into judaism. Nor do I think that petty spiteful entity described in Torah is The God, it's more like tribal god of Israel.

Sure you know better how to run His Creation than He. You are the One above all after all.
Consider doing this .

Well if you want to consider morals we can consider morals. Better yet, lets do it outside of the context of religion so that we can come to nihilism and then begin religion from that perspective.

Of course though weaklings that fell prey to satan would never be able to get through legit philosophy to that point and then realize the greatness of the lord that way.

Basically bro, there's no such thing as good and evil dog, might is right, and god is the mightiest.
We wouldn't have to develop an extremely high level of virtue through these trials and tribulation if she just didn't eat the fucking fruit.

Circumcised golem please. I will not bow to neanderthal tribal god. Now go bless Israel.
Yes, cosmology in judaism is a fucking joke. Although it's not reasonable to expect something good from neanderthal kike with sloped skull who originally put that together.

Argue me then the superiority of your morals you weakling.

>Descendants of Indo-Europeans who prostrates himself before alien kike god calls someone weakling
All morals are social contract btw.

the absolute state of OPs toilet

so why should i follow a moral if it's not beneficial to me at that time?

also, what are the rules in this social contract of yours?

Well you can do whatever you want as long as you're ready for consequences of what you did. Your religion merely adds another consequence, namely VOLCANO DEMON YAHWEH WILL THROW YOU INTO VOLCANO IF YOU DON'T OBEY WHAT RABBI SAYS GOY PIG!

I won't try to speak for other user as I am also a Hitlerist.

For me, it is being possessed by the Archetype of the collective unconscious, which the Greeks used to call Gods — among them, Apollo, which really is Wotan for the Germans, and Vishnu or Shiva for the Hindus — and its development in the individual and collective souls of the actual Hitlerist warriors. That means a new/old religion, with all of its rituals and myths which are necessary to discover, or rediscover.

It is that which transcends the field of politics, and, in one way or another, makes contact with the spiritual sense and symbols. We believe that if the world does not come to an end soon, it will be only because Hitlerism transformed itself into a new religious faith, able to change the materialistic man of today into a new idealistic hero, to whom the afterlife is as important as life itself. That was the attitude of the heroes at Thermopylae, who fought for honor and duty — for Dharma. If only it were possible to develop all over the world a heroic attitude, a sort of Order of Warriors — priests of the new religion of Hitlerism — the world could be saved and materialism destroyed. Esoteric Hitlerism is a totally new world view (Weltanschauung), a Cosmogony. The SS tried to transmute man to superman, in Sonnenmensch, or Sun-Man, a man who will again be a god. This is an old Aryan concept, which is not unlike traditional Greek thought, and the initiation of the Mysteries of Apollo and Dyonisus. The Dorian Greeks had a nostalgia for Hyperborea, and so do Hitlerists.

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