Daily reminder arranged / forced marriage is our best option now

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Angelic girls at church, their names unknown to me.

GIVE ME PUSSY!

Arranged marriages are the reason India is so shit. No genetic competition.

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>>b-b-but that's not our culture reee!
>it was 100 years ago and still is today in Amish communities and the elite
>implying amish culture and 'elite' ways are our ways and culture
In short, OP is a desperate cuck.

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check op
>step 4: set up several positive eugenics systems based in science to objectively improve the white tribe as well as maintaining a sustainable 2.1+ national birth rate
plus you're assuming the majority of fathers would for some reason choose mates for their daughters with bad traits
kill yourself weakling

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Arranged marriages are disgenic
We need sexual selection
Only top 20% of men should reproduce
f-fucking loser virgin reee

Reminder that actual incels that ramble about enslaving people and white sharia because they are unable to find a partner, are genetic garbage and a waste of oxygen, therefore they deserve to be shot

>k-kill yourself!
>im st-stronger than you! So stronger in fact that i-i need to force women to be with me!
Wow what a reasonable and thought inducing rebuttal.

this.

Ah rookie mistake. What you fail to realize is that OP is an ugly faggot who can't get a woman so arranged marriages is his only hope.

Nah. Then people like me go on killing sprees and take out all the competition.

>Only top 20% of men should reproduce
im all for eugenics but what youre advocating for is mass betrayal of 80% of your tribe.
if a guy is just average but healthy and hard working he should also be able to have kids faggot.
you are too weak to control your women. just admit it. control is not weakness. not being able to control something is weakness. faggot.

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You're just a retarded larper that rages in public when you see two couples getting personal.
>i need hwelp from the gobermint cuz im 2 ugwee to be seen by wumin11!!!
I need not to admit, but to laugh at such retardation and the amount of spergatory you'll stay in when you shall be forgotten by others you once loved. Now, I suggest trying to get a girlfriend, well implying if you even can, and be a normal citizen instead of some fat lazy loser that expects everything to come to you.

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>if a guy is just average but healthy and hard working he should also be able to have kids

Life is unfair
80 years ago, 18 years ago French and german boys fought and die trying to defend their nations
That was not fair too
Stop thinking there is a justice
Nobody care about average men
They can fuck sexbot

The 80% have inferior traits. Why should they be allowed to pass on their shitty genes. I feel that inferior genetic traits (such as ugliness, shortness, obesity, mental illnesses, etc.) being passed down has really set behind the human species as a whole. I'm glad this new era in human history is making it harder for the undesirables to find mates.

You are in fact in favor of disgenics and think you are owed a partner just because you exist. That's not how natural selection works. Better yourself or accept the fact that you're not going to reproduce, no one owes you shit, much less if you actually believe in eugenics

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There would be no practical way to maintain White birthrates without also letting white trash breed. You would have to slowly breed out shitty genes in an arranged marriage system. Eugenics are streamlined when women chose their mates. Also a decreasing population is actually better for us in the long run granted whites don't become a minority.

Pic related if you're worried about who white women would breed with.

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Arranged marriage isn't the same as forced marriage though...

The top 20% will be the men left breathing.
I hope you're well armed, faggot.

This. Even if you do breed you're only delaying the inevitable. Eventually the shitty genes you pass on will prevent your children from reproducing and thus ending your line. Its an ugly concept but for a species to thrive the members with the inferior genes must die without spreading their seed.

the thing that separates us from chinks though is fairness and love and some rights as long as those things arnt being used to hurt the tribe. i wouldn't support a ethnostate that didn't allow good average people to breed.
and this is an arranged marriage thread. not eugenics thread. make your own.
your standards are too bug men like.
it can be, depends how you set up the system

>this is an arranged marriage thread. not eugenics thread.
disproved your points using eugenics

How about we educate males to treat their women right?

And by "right", I mean the way women crave being treated.
Like property, like sextoys who cook. That's women's natural state

A lot of guys aren't getting the memo on this, just how forceful and dominating a woman wants you to be

I don't agree with this because not all men/women should breed, which is the case with arrange marriage.

I mean, the women who would naturally whore around their entire lives and not have kids, if forced to procreate, would just perpetuate the whoredom gene into following generations.

This is why it's better just to tax the shit out of people who don't have 3+ kids.

I'm an old balding lazy millennial virgin. If a non obese retarded looking girl is interested in marrying me and having kids, I'd take it.

You mentioned eugenics in your OP. Arranged marriages would work but only if you kill the bottom 80% of men. Shouldn't be too much of an issue since most of the bottom 80% of men are shitskins, chinks, and weak men who won't give too much of a fight.

>marrying a woman

beta af , you will never be happy

>i wouldn't support a ethnostate that didn't allow good average people to breed.
What's stopping you from having kids even now? You talk about fairness and love, yet want to force people to enter in marriage with ugly shits that they don't like. How is that fair or lovely? How is it different from chink hive mentality you complain so much about?

no i have like 10 eugenics ideas written down that would in no way conflict with arranged marriage. you're just dogmatic and too intellectually lazy to think of creative ways to make it work. which isnt hard at all heres a free one
have state run tournaments of athletics and mental challenges and the winners get to choose to marry any single female in the tribe regardless if her father approves or not.
as well as the state would provide top quality females for the winners to choose from just in case they didn't have anyone in mind before winning.
this is the last response im giving about eugenics in this thread, think more brainlets
you don't understand the difference from pleasure and happiness then

Translation:
>I’m too beta to get a wife, somebody else go force someone to marry me
Honestly bro, you’re guaranteed to die alone. Why not just end it now?

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people that want forced marriage are usually some virgin white betas that cant get laid or sand/curry niggers.

just get laid and get over your anger issues

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>have state run tournaments of athletics and mental challenges and the winners get to choose to marry any single female in the tribe regardless if her father approves or not.
>as well as the state would provide top quality females for the winners to choose from just in case they didn't have anyone in mind before winning
Isn't that how things work now? The most intelligent and athletic men get to chose the woman they get to marry. You just invalidated your whole argument by claiming that men with better genes do in fact deserve women of higher stock.

I can smell your cunt.

And no arranged marriages wouldn't make people happy, except for maybe incels. I agree with most of pol's points except for their hatred for women. I wouldn't want to consider my gf as property because I value her intellect and her own interests outside of raising a family. I also want my gf to be with me not because she's forced to be with me but because she wants to be with me. Maybe you'll understand if you ever get a gf. If sex is the only thing you seek in a woman than you are no less degenerate than a thot.

Why do you not answer the questions and instead give a generic answer with zero correlation to what I asked? Btw I'm fairly sure that even today, no top tier intellectual/athlete/business person needs state intervention to find a partner, nor do the majority of normal people. Only the lowest of the low would benefit from such programs.

HAVE SEX!!

So who’s the girl that cucked you.

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>I agree with most of pol's points except for their hatred for women.
They are just pretending
They are sensible men if they really believe what they are saying they would not be so bitter
Men naturally love and protect women

>If sex is the only thing you seek in a woman than you are no less degenerate than a thot.
projecting
how do you not understand that sex is a required biological function in order to create white children. if white men are in any way kept from doing that biological function legally or culturally or physically your tribe is doomed to die off.

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Ok fine. If sex is so important then why do you give a shit that women are selective of who they chose to reproduce with? I'm glad my mother was selective and chose to marry a good looking man like my father.

because 95% of women choose based on dick size, height, wallet size, and useless social status and mens willingness to bow down to the matriarchy.
They do not choose based on a mans health or intelligence or dedication to their tribe or how hard a person works or how loyal they are.

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Your health is correlated to your physical features. Your intelligence is correlated with your wallet size.
Your dedication to your tribe is correlated to your tribe.
Now you're just being retarded. Stop going to social media and seething at stupid thot posts. Take a brake from your incel echo chambers. Go outside and find a real woman, I sense a lot of bitterness in you and its understandable considering social media and the internet in general gives people a false perception of what everyday people are like.

Take the islampill

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White birthrates average to about 2, which is at healthy replacement levels. Whites aren't going extinct, the birthrate here is 1.8

and id say the opposite for you, you probably live in rural fucking montana or some place sheltered with endless amounts of trad white country christian girls near you.
you have boomer syndrome right now. you don't know what you have until its gone. i'm the one being objective here. i'm trying to break this never ending shit cycle.
dumb fuck. replacement level is ATLEAST 2.1+
there is not a single white country at that except maybe iceland or some other tiny islands.
and considering all white nations have feminism and kikes in power and importing endless refugees and migrants from 7.0 and 8.0 birthrate african and arab countries and race mixing its only going to get fucking worse/

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You guys are fucking retarded. But seriously. First female hypergamy is flawed as fuck because it's based only on looks and for women the top 20% is just bunch of gymguys with pretty face(with average intelect at best). While all inteligent MEN, who invent machines making your life easier, who work for better future, the same men who made internet what you use to spread that bullshit, all geniuses had looks of the average man what means their looks belonged to 80%. And according to your theories their inteligence genes should not be passed into next generation and just die.

Or wait. Do really believe that 80% of men won't just team up and Zerg down the 20%? you are even more retarded then.
Basically shit like that was in primal times when we didn't had monogamy, all what humans did is killing each other with stones and sticks over pussy. The 80% teamed and killed 20% and then from this 80% of men the new 20% and 80% appeared and the story repeated over and over and over. Untill some tribe said "time to stop this fucking bullshit, MONOGAMY TIME BITCHES". And at this moment society stabilized because thanks to monogamy most of men had partner and so they stopped fighting over them and men used that energy to create Civilisation.

Monogamy is a fundamental of every successful Civilisation and Polygamy shills are fucking idiots.

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they're just hedonistic boomers 2.0 they don't get it. notice how 90% of their arguments are 15 year old female tier name calling. they will continue allowing women anything to avoid social disapproval from their women.
it's basically how an animals brain works in a pack.

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>Do really believe that 80% of men won't just team up and Zerg down the 20%?
The 80% of men can watch porn and buy sexbots
Women value money too, intelligent men can make money and reproduce too

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_and_intelligence

Move out of the city then. Let the fags, niggers, and kikes keep the cities. Cities are no place for us.

No one wants to be denied the right to breed and have children. No one wants to support eugenics programs because of the possibility they may, for some reason, be denied the right to have children. Eugenics will never work because it, at its core, disenfranchises a large portion of the overall community.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a retard.

Where do you expect to gain the power to accomplish this?

Another thing I see occur in these threads semi-constantly is men LARPing as alpha males. I will get replies to this post telling me how no, the people of this thread all have dripping wet fresh pussy where ever they go, and of course they treat women like the walking cock receptacles they are. Jow Forums and especially these kinds of threads are hardly better than Jow Forums when it comes to sociability and self awareness.

You're retarded.

Go back to plebbit fucking incel

Masturbation with porn won't fully satisfy man's sexual needs for his entire life sooner or later he will feel that he needs a woman to hug, cuddle and feel it in real life.

Second we don't have fully functional sexrobots that are accessible for everyone. At best we have lifelike sexdolls but still men using this kind of stuff is stigmatized by society what means many of men won't even buy it because of fear of stigma.

>Women value money too, intelligent men can make money and reproduce too.
Not with today law and society. Woman can just do "Alpha fucks, beta fucks" strategy what means girl can just marry a rich inteligent guy then deny him sex while fucking around with better looking, poorer and more stupid guys and then make the rich guy pay for her child.

>because 95% of women choose based on dick size, height, wallet size, and useless social status
so why don't you get social status to get the 95% of women? Are you too lazy and incompetent to do so?
>matriarchy
same bullshit as patriarchy. You are no different from 300 kg tumblerinas that want to castrate all men because no one wants to fuck their decaying holes
He's the one that made the eugenics argument, I don't believe in forced eugenics.
And yes, monogamy is far superior, but forcing people to marry and have children is a recipe for disaster. Let people choose and encourage having children trough tax incentives. No need for any of this incel shit

I believe in monogamous relationships where women and men have the freedom to select who they chose to be with. A cultural shift must take place in which society encourages monogamous relationships. the 80% killing the top 20% is just retarded. Women would just select the best stock from the remaining 80% and a new 20/80 would be formed. Why shouldn't women seek the best possible traits. Would you feel comfortable being forced to date a 200 pound beast with bad skin? I know I wouldn't be happy if I wasn't allowed to chose who I want to marry.

>No one wants to support eugenics programs because of the possibility they may, for some reason, be denied the right to have children
Why not?
The problem is today people are too individuals
They think first about themselves and do not think about what is good for society
That s the reason why our nations are collapsing.
Not so long ago people were able to sacrifice their lives for their countries

>just conform to all the retarded social and cultural and legal shit women and kikes invented to let men into their holes, don't just take control of the situation f-fucking incel goyim!

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I don't say monogamous relationships force women to do anything. In monogamy only top women will date top guys, middle women will date middle guys, and low tier women will date low tier guys.
If you are average looking girl, you won't be forced to marry a 200 pound beast. You just won't have access to top men because he will be already taken by top women but you will have access to average man because he will definitely choose a average girl over 300 pound landwhale.

>Why not?
Because people want to pass on their genetics. How is that difficult to understand? People want to pass on their genes.

Even if YOU think this should happen you need to step back and realize the vast majority of people do not. They want the chance to have children and don't want to sign away that chance to an entity that may decide standards they don't agree with.

>Not so long ago people were able to sacrifice their lives for their countries
People sacrificed their lives to combat an immediate existential threat. That is so far different from what you're talking about you can't even compare them. Agreeing to a system that could remove your own chance at passing on your genetics when there is no immediate threat would be detrimental to your own chances at genetic immortality.

Mate, if you want this so bad go get a vasectomy, you're obviously not the top 20% anyway.

>retarded social and cultural
Make an example? You talked about wallet size, which is perfectly normal and always existed. People seek a partner able to financially care for them. You talked about height and dick size, which again is perfectly normal since they seek a partner with better looks. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't find a better looking woman with curves in the right places more attractive than an ugly one that looks like an ironing board or a land whale.
>lol but beauty is on the inside you fucking racist! Fuck these patriarchical body standards!
k den

impregnate your mother and make one

a footfag did this

so many faggots in this thread

>Mate, if you want this so bad go get a vasectomy, you're obviously not the top 20% anyway
Thank you but I have 2 children
But honestly for the good of my society I would agree to be sacrifice (maybe that's why the reason I have children)
People are too individuals and selfish nowadays

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
this is all about women having choice or not
if a woman chooses to be lgbt
that means no white children
if a woman chooses to take birth control
that means no white children
if a woman chooses to have an abortion
that means no white children
if a woman chooses to not allow a white man in her hole
that means no white children
if a woman chooses to not have sex because she hates her white genetics
that means no white children
if a woman chooses to fuck non white men
that means no white children
i could go on and on. stop being a little pussy boy, grow up, and take control of your women

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First of all if you want to make forced eugenics then how you want to make a perfect standards?
Based on woman choice? Well as I said in my other posts, female hypergamy is flawed. For hypergamy the most important is looks and "fighting" capabilities. The peak man according in hypergamy is just gym abusing agressive guy. It doesn't matter if he is stupid or not. Intelligence is not important. In wild this will work, but if we want to build better Civilisation, then it will be more Dysgenics.

How about we just stop making so e forced eugenics and just first, restore monogamy for it's primal form, abolish adultery and of course stop giving any welfare for women. At this moment women will have to get a husband who will provide for her and in exchange she has to have sex with him and have his children. All valuable men who can earn money and provide for his family, will reproduce. And all trash men wont reproduce because no woman will marry a guy who can't provide to his family.

sure thing incel

>this is all about women having choice or not
The vast majority of women who choose to have children, have white children. Those that chose to not have children would be terrbile mothers (imagine the average sjw raising kids). Those taht have mixed children are a demographic irrelevance (even in the US, which historically had racial minorites living alongside whites, the number of mixed people is extremely low.

Forcing women to have children with people like you isn't the solution, since the next generation would be just as fucked as the current one if not more. The solution is incentivize good family minded people to hopefully have more children than just one and have them replace all the shitty people that for one reason or another end up not having kids.
>but muh demographics!!!!
demographics as commonly presented are an unsustainable pyramid scheme taht implies eternal growth, which is scientifically impossible. Lower birthrates are not a problem, as long as they aren't coupled with replacement migration.

Plus why should I support a system that would end up paring me with someone I might not like? Why should the state make me marry a woman that I detest or don't find attractive?
No one cares or wants your egomanic control tendencies

>our

dumb fuck. you are wrong. white women are not having kids. you are in deep conflict with yourself and your brainwashed culture and upbringing. statistically, logically, historically, and biologically you are wrong about women.
all i can do is provide you information, i can't fucking make you think though you need to do that.

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>dumb fuck. you are wrong. white women are not having kids
I guess the white kids that I see every day just sprout from the ground like mushrooms then. We have a birthrate of 1.5, with very few racial minority kids. Where are those 1.5 kids coming from if not from very normal white couples having kids?

So this is the distribution of the globes entire population. What you're doing is you're copying the words of your baby boomer father or uncle that probably use to beat the shit out of you and molest everybody, as is customary in white culture these days. You openly express your intentions on a forum because you believe you're actually anonymous yet are too stupid to understand how anything on this website works. Spoiler alert, a Japanese guy currently owns it and created the original version of it.

Here is what you need to do to redeem yourself.
step 1. start trying to study other cultures the way the people of those cultures are taught
step 2. get the idea that you have any power in this world anymore, out of your head. (have you seen who resorts to shooting schools these days?)
step 3. realize that your identity itself is merely an emanation and when all parts are considered, the ego can easily be fooled and subverted by it
step 4. buy some ear muffs to help you find a quiet place and consider seeking some help, for your own sake man. being abused as a child must have been hard on you and you still lie to yourself about it till this day.

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that's below replacement level. why do you have to be so dumb. i'm not replying to you anymore

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no u

>that's below replacement level.
Re-read my post here, incel
>but muh demographics!!!!
>demographics as commonly presented are an unsustainable pyramid scheme taht implies eternal growth, which is scientifically impossible. Lower birthrates are not a problem, as long as they aren't coupled with replacement migration.

The "above replacement" bullshit is just kicking the can further along the road. An infinite growth system is unsustainable and a correction to population is long everdue, especially if you consider that Monaco is one of the most densily populated countries on the planet

Fraudulent and homosexual

I don't think people here advocate that reaching a trillion or more souls is fine if only all of them were white. You are strawmanning

That's what "above replacement" implies in the long run. It's a bullshit excuse to pump out by force more people to work, rather than letting nature correct itself.
Besides, do you think people like the one posted in should be forced to have kids? Are we really that much in need of future left/green voters? Don't we have more than enough already?
Because that's what you are going to get with OP's plan: on overpopulated shithole full of leftists that will end uo inevitably inviting over more shitskins.
Or you can just let the crappy people die off with no kids.

At the very least white countries need to change outlook on this matter. And we also need to cull the 3rd world sooner or later

>At the very least white countries need to change outlook on this matter.
I completely agree on that, we should all strive to create a more family oriented society. But it's not with incel white sharia bullshit that we can accomplish that.
> And we also need to cull the 3rd world sooner or later
Either way,they will cull themselves in the long run, just like we did. Remember that constant growth is scientifically and statistically impossible.
We just need to worry about them not coming here in the meantime