Is masturbating actually a problem, or is porn the real issue?

Is masturbating actually a problem, or is porn the real issue?

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both
masturbation to a lesser degree

Porn is worse, but both are ultimately degenerate. Self discipline is an ideal we should all strive for.

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I wish more people shared your point of view. The degeneracy of throwing out the seed is throwing away the lifeforce energy. There's an ancient formula for retaining this fluid for years and year and it can supposedly make you immortal in the process. Some men have unlocked superhuman powers within themselves by making the ultimate sacrifice and living their lives purely as a monk would. Adding meditation and prayer to God are also key in the process.

We are driven mostly by the promise of dopaminergic high. The bulk of humanity will always chase any high available, that is their nature. For the enlightened, this is not the source of degeneracy but a tool in his hands to shape the world according to his will. Of course, the enlightened carries a heavy burden for this, a curse upon his bloodline ... the inability to experience a sustained dopamine high. Once the reward has been taken out of the equation you are free from following your urges like a slave. However, the price is simple yet grave ... to never be able to experience happiness, complacency, joy ... instead being reduced and elevated to being an eternally restless mind.

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>I am a happy man!

Still got wörk to do here though ...

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both
they release dopamine which fucks you up
and orgasms fuck you up

I think there are really scientific reasons not to masturbate
and some people know this on an instinctual level, which gets expressed by saying things like "its against god" "its degenerate"

Like how religions used to make people wash their hands before humans had any concept of germs or that doing so could help you avoid disease.
Its just that the people that did this were more likely to live and so the behaviour was passed on

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Get the fuck out with that bullshit.

I don't have a problem with either.
Where's her dick

Is she even a real girl? Look at how tiny her tits are...

She's all female, Skippy.

Nothing wrong with masturbation at all.
It's the only thing incels are allowed to do.

Porn on the other hand is extremely degenerate and is a form of prostitution. Those involved in making it should be killed.

I guess it really depends on how much you masturbate. I’m mean for me it’s like a couple times a week. If you’re doing it every day... well you probably are fucked.

porn is absolutely the worse of the two

he's overselling it but I believe semen retention has some benefits

both. you must reabsorb the life giving energy of semen that you possess, and use that energy for purposes that will hurl you into endless possibilities.
>hitler didnt bate
>tesla didnt bate
>lovecraft had sex once
you must look into the powers of vril

Neither are bad unless you are a weak willed dipshit.

we got one

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So, you eat it yourself?
Eat your own semen is what I'm hearing here.

Is that my wife, Belle?

Should erotica still be allowed?

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Al Goldstein
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Goldstein
>"The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks."

The Bill Gates of Porn
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The Great Porn Experiment — One More Devastating Jewish Globalist Influence and How to Overcome It!
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Interracial Porn Isn't Profitable, It's Political
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Jenna Jameson's 25 Good Reasons Why No One Would Ever Want to Become a Porn Star
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>After the AVN Awards and all the mainstream exposure, everyone wanted to interview me, even people who had passed on the offer before. One of them was Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw magazine, who was writing for Penthouse at the time. Joy set up something after the awards show, and Goldstein came by to introduce himself. He's an obese, greasy, slovenly man, and was very touchy-feely with both of us. When he discussed the interview, he seemed to be dropping hints about going on a date or getting sexual favors from me in exchange for the article. He didn't say it explicitly, but it's the feeling Joy and I got... Goldstein never forgave us for canceling the interview. And so I made my first enemy in the business. He published a screed against Joy and me on the front page of Screw, accusing us of practically every offense imaginable – and a few that were unimaginable. He even attacked my family.

Jews and Porn
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Nathan Abrams on Jews in the American Porn Industry
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Porn Shackles Society More than Patriot Act
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Pornography
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>The hardcore pornography industry in film and image format is in particular associated with the United States and many of the most powerful people within the industry in ownership and distribution roles have been Ashkenazi Jews

Pornography as a Secret Weapon
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Study Archive of Jewish Pornographers in Modern Societies
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Weaponized Porn
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Having a wank to OP's pic related is degenerate and soul-rending because this cunt is literally a succubus for betas and their shekels and is a vapid cunt. On the other hand fapping to retro softcore brit milf Kay Parker would be better.

Well erotica isn't selling sex for money, it is just a kind of low-grade creative writing, so I see no reason it should be banned.

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They are bad retard why is it that you think is being pushed as "healthy"?

Based leaf.

Both are a symptom. Remove welfare; Cure inceldom.

I started obsessive masturbation as a preteen without any need for porn. I became quite sexually deviant by having only underwear- and swimsuit catalogs as my visual stimulation. While I would not shun masturbation itself too much (teenage hypersexuality is quite natural), I believe it could have gone really harmful if I had access to pornography.
That being said my masturbation decreased a lot when my overheated sex drive began to calm down after my teens.

1-2 months no fap is very beneficial. It's profound in the subtle, quieter and more clear mind expanded across several weeks, a small benefit is magnified.
No porn is better but I've found the 2 in a row release is much worse than a single release.
> t. never been past 2 month no fap but mostly abstinent

Jav+hentai>>>porn

i'd love to kick her teeth off

>porn+porn>>>porn

No. They aren't bad, they aren't healthy, they just are a thing. Only a dipshit views shit in a binary view.

Releasing the poison once in a while in the shower is fine, but when it's at hobby levels, you have a problem. If you have a "favorite" porn actress, you have a problem. If you have spent money on camwhores, or subs to a porn site, you have a problem.

Porn is the problem? Partly. That's like blaming drug addiction on the drugs, and not the people abusing them, or selling them.

This.
Porn leads to cuckoldry.
Masturbation, in excess, leads to abnormally high value on sexual activity, and damages your outlook on marriage and relationships, affecting your ability to maintain a relationship, and to be happy in one.
Sexual activity in excess at all can do that. It's no secret that increased sexual partners correlates with decreased marriage success and satisfaction rates.

Based. I would join you bro.

I don't she is a pornstar

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Furry porn>>>>>>>>>>Jav+hentai+porn

Nothing of value would be lost. Carry on.

God gave us hands to masturbate, even monkeys do it, but it should never be interfering your productivity. It's ok to satisfy your body, but don't become a slave your fleshly desires.

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I bet you can find a picture of her asshole in about 5 minutes.

Homewrecking slut.

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I know, I've extensively read the study that "chart 1" dead centre is from.
There have been follow up studies of very similar controls and practices that found women in the current decade report in an arc of success that is slightly higher (negligible, really) rate of success at 2-3 past partners + church attendance, over the 0-1 partners. But even then, after 2-3 it just fucking plummets.
I do believe that practicing abstinence for an extended period of time (at least a year or two) can dramatically contribute to restoring your ability to maintain a healthy relationship, after the damage of living a sexually deviant lifestyle.
He had it coming too tho. Be real here.

i've always heard that not fucking or jerking off at least a few times a month increases your chances of prostate cancer
what's the red pill on this?

>Claimed it was a joke
>Still got nervous about it
What a retard, should have just owed it and she would have believed him. Hiding it just shows it wasn't a joke.

Monks live for a very long time. Also if you believe in God, your soul>>>>>>>your body.

I can relate. I was something people would call a chad in my younger age and women use to throw at me alot because of the constant proximity, but 95% time i refused any advances. I saw womens behaviour at young age and knew something was wrong, so i kept my semen to myself. Now i have power over my mind and body, altho im not extreamly intelligent, i do very well mentally and have no need for intimacy, as my own company is enough for me.

While it's kinda admirable to live in celibacy, especially in these times we should glorify western men starting big families instead of becoming genetic dead ends for God.Clerical celibacy eliminates lots of above average men from gene pool.

>can dramatically contribute to restoring your ability to maintain a healthy relationship,
That's something I'd be interested in seeing a proper longitudinal study on. I'm all for the body's (and mind's) ability to heal itself.

It's probably true-ish. Don't put a lot of weight on that because daily masturbation is worse.
I've read that weekly (once only) can lead to better testosterone development than not at all but I dont entirely believe that. When you stop doing it for a long time and then do it again, you feel the difference after much more. I never got that feeling.

But they have to be willing participants and value the reasons they are doing it for too. I was once sexually deviant and addicted to porn, cheap sex, and I've done shameful things I wouldn't admit to anymore. I was apathetic.
After trump phenomenon I turned my shit around, joined a nazi group chat, turned my life around and after almost 2 years of abstinence I revolutionized my outlook on women, and the first woman I had sex with since then is laying next to me asleep and our daughter in the next room.
It works. You can redeem yourself. But only if you're strong willed and have a cause. If I didn't have a cause, I would not be here.

Absolutely. Congratulations by the way.

What about softcore porn not owned by (((them)))...will the occasional viewing still mess you up long term?

Nah. My doc said there was no conclusive evidence either way, it was still being researched. We discussed it, because I was wondering why he asked how my sex life was during my physical, and why he asked specifically if I had any issues jizzing. He said if I'm getting laid regularly, with no issues, I'm pretty much good to go, but if I have any issues, come in. He said that the fact that there was no prostate cancer in either side of my family meant more.

Porn was/is literally used as weapons to send to enemy countries to weaken men

Porn was literally used as weapons to send to enemy countries to weaken men

The best porn is memories of actual sex with someone you had. After that, pictures or video you took yourself.

If you think your schizo conspiracy theories have anything to do with it, just go celibate - we don't need your shit genes in the gene pool anyway.

>The best porn is memories of actual sex with someone you had. After that, pictures or video you took y

That is true. When I'm fapping in bed I think about past conquests I've had, not pornstars.

I agree, it's been a hot minute though, about a year...I've only fucked one girl albeit multiple, multiple times

Porn must be abolished.

I have a GF but when I fap I think about girls I wanna fuck that I know IRL. Its not cheating man, its just fap

Pornographers must hang.

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it's the opposite.
Porn is unavoidable, and eventually you can train yourself to avoid feeling lust. You can train your eyes and mind not to enter a primal state at the glance of a woman in yoga pants, or a sex scene in a movie.
You can't however train yourself not to lose nutrients like zinc and avoid your hormones being sent out of balance through masturbation.
Masturbation raises DHT and prolactin. Look up the effects of those two on the male body, it's not good.

I could not do it user

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If it is a real issue, just cut it by the roots. Cut your dingdong!

God doesn’t approve sin

(S)he hit the wall dude it's subtle because of all the makeup but you can tell, she doesn't have the stones for fame especially one this debased, cruel and gay. It's over

Dont cope this hard next time

How drunk are you Seamus ?

By saying you’ve read something “extensively” you’re outing yourself as an illiterate. Either you’ve read it or you haven’t.

porn ruined my sex drive

Why is every picture or vid of this shiteater have the whole tongue sticking out? Are there people that actually find that appealing?

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is that a legit porno ? How much is she getting paid for that shit, Jesus what kind of fucked up childhood did she have

Tell that to extreme sports and s&m goys

2nd link is dead

Jews are the problem.

Masturbation is the cure to aggression.
If it weren’t for masturbation I would be so violent like omg.

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yes it keeps you a good docile goy

Porn and isolation from reality.

Both
Too much Masturbation drains your fluid and energy (ocassionally is fine though)
Every click of Porn translates to degeneracy and evil being heaped on the world by the site hosters. No matter what you watch. It still supports them indirectly.
t. had a slight masturbation and porn addiction since middeschool

When she makes that face it's so punchable

Watching naked girls and masturbate is Ok.

Watching other men fucking a girl is NOT OK.

STOP BELIEVING MOVIES ARE REAL

>being this gay

Having a fanatical nature, I masturbated a lot. I have a scar on my dick from masturbating 7 times a day.
Still continued after i got a friction wound, but less.
My dick is quite numb now.
I got a gf now.
I cant feel shit with a condom or when drunk. Sex at this point is purely for my gf then, because I dont feel enough in my dick to get off.
In 10 mins of doggy action, my gf came twice and I only once.
If I want to get off quick, I can do it with masturbation, but if me and my gf want me to come quick, she has to edge me a whole lot.

Some of you probably think this is great, it really isnt.

oh, the curse of the iron grip

It's neither. The real red pill is it (((it's the internet))) but none of us has the strength to give it up.

No man on Jow Forums will take responsibility for his actions so might as well blame the tool that enabled it.

Just watch pov, only porn i ever watch

This. It's total cuckoldry and I never understood why anyone would put up with it.

Prostitution is natural get off your gay high horse

I do masturbate to pornography featuring only women, but I still think my brain helped me dodge some kind of bullet in making me incapable of getting turned on about sexual activity of other men.

if so bad why feel so good. i fell asleep for 14 hours because I was so proud of myself