How is taxation theft? Has a robber ever build a road for you? Does he protect...

Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

How is taxation theft? Has a robber ever build a road for you? Does he protect your overweight ass from foreign invasion? Would a robber give you a tax return? Would he pay your medical bills? Would he give you the chance to go live somewhere else if you don't want to pay him? Please think logically, taxation isn't theft and never will be.

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Grayson Bailey
Grayson Bailey

Just because I do some stuff with your money after I've taken it from you doesn't mean that the act of taking it from you isn't theft.

Well, technically it's robbery.

Bentley Russell
Bentley Russell

How is taxation theft?
it's not.
how is me lending you money and then asking for only part of it back theft?
wouldn't you be happy not having to pay back the entire amount i lent you?

Robert Price
Robert Price

No one is stopping you from building a boat or going into the forest to live tax free retard. But if you want to be part of a community then you have to contribute to it

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Jackson Clark
Jackson Clark

protect your overweight ass from foreign invasion?
Last time I checked Merkel let in over 2 million invaders.

Lucas Watson
Lucas Watson

No one is stopping you from building a boat or going into the forest to live tax free retard.
Except when I don't want to pay taxes on the wood for the boat or the land on which the forest grows, there comes the robber.

Dominic Rogers
Dominic Rogers

not chopping wood with a homemade stone axe
Pathetic

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Nathan Jones
Nathan Jones

some stuff
That happens to benefit you. That you agreed I would build after I took the money. Because we signed a social contract. Are you retarded??

Ayden Brooks
Ayden Brooks

You just want everything for free like a spoiled greedy bitch?

Cameron Nelson
Cameron Nelson

Again, what wood would I be chopping? That of another person? Can't do that, I would become a thief (like the government). On my own land? Can't own that because if you have to pay for it regularly, you're just renting.

Liam Perez
Liam Perez

So you'd be OK if I were to come up to you, take your wallet, and hand you a bottle of water in exchange?

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

Go into a forrest retard

Sebastian Bell
Sebastian Bell

That happens to benefit you.
If I wanted to benefit from it, I'd be perfectly happy to pay for it.

Because we signed a social contract
Post a picture of that contract.

No.

Leo Reyes
Leo Reyes

False equivalent, try harder and come up with an argument that's actually valid

Josiah Phillips
Josiah Phillips

if you support taxation you may as well just support a smaller socialist kind of society where people contribute to the well being of everything. i mean thats basically what taxes are but in the current model its like you feel the benefits less

David Campbell
David Campbell

go into a forrest
Where are those magical forrests that aren't owned directly by the government or indirectly by the government, Kevin?

Oliver Perry
Oliver Perry

post a picture of that contract

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Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

The money is not given freely. You cannot choose to not pay taxes, and if you attempt to a bunch of men with weapons will be at your door to take you away.

Charles Torres
Charles Torres

No one cares if you cut down some random tree dumbass

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

You CAN choose to not pay taxes by living somewhere else

Jaxon Diaz
Jaxon Diaz

What the fuck do you think civilization is you little bitch?

Jackson Lewis
Jackson Lewis

I supposedly signed something, that means there is a signature of some sort on a piece of paper.

I want to see that piece of paper

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

So you're against theft as well and you know the government is stealing from people. You just won't admit it for some reason.

Nathaniel Morgan
Nathaniel Morgan

Unless it's in the form of voluntaryism, a band of strongarmed robbers.

Jayden Ramirez
Jayden Ramirez

taking the term social contract literally
Absolute brainlet detected

Daniel Ramirez
Daniel Ramirez

Might as well go blame your parents for bearing you, idiot.

Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

So you admit that I didn't sign anything, ok.

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

Have been looking for them for a while, haven't come across one until now.

Aaron Young
Aaron Young

Go read some basic political theory nigga

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

I would be HAPPY to pay taxes if they went to roads, or protected me from foreign invasion.
Unfortunately, in Commiefornia, the roads are potholed monstrosities, and the foreign invasion is very, very real.

My taxes go to the invaders. Soon you will understand Hans, SOON.

Alexander Phillips
Alexander Phillips

Austrians
Is every tree in your country owned by the government?

Ian Walker
Ian Walker

Would you willingly give money to the government if there was no threat of force for not doing so?

Daniel Morales
Daniel Morales

You can easily pay zero % tax. Just remove everything the government spends tax revenue on. Which is a lot of things.

Leo Kelly
Leo Kelly

No that's the government

Kayden Hughes
Kayden Hughes

I have, and in the end it all current political systems come down to robbery.

Yes.

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

Please tell me what you read, hard mode: don't lie

Levi Cruz
Levi Cruz

Taxation [without representation] is theft. If you gain absolutely nothing from the tax then it should not apply to you. Maybe people support a defensive military, but not an invasion of another country. Maybe I support funding border security, but not when the funding goes towards providing housing and shelter to illegal immigrants. We don't even know what our taxes go towards you pawn.

Robert Jackson
Robert Jackson

It's by definition not theft (well maybe if you get taxed as minor it might be but blame boomers for that)
You can always leave somewhere else or start a country without taxes if you like

Nathan Johnson
Nathan Johnson

If I stole your wallet, took a 20% cut of what's inside as salary and used the rest to buy you a bunch of crap you didn't want, would you not call that theft?

No one is stopping you from building a boat or going into the forest to live tax free retard.
Yes they are.
I can never truly "own" the land, because the state always wants tax paid on it, and if I don't pay it men with guns come and throw me out.

No, I don't want things for free. I just don't want people to tell me what things I ostensibly need and charge me through the fucking roof for them.
Before you bring up roads, having a road paved as a private individual costs less than half than it costs the government... why?

Are you 5? "forests" aren't a magical place you don't pay taxes on or where you can do anything you want, retard.

Cooper Garcia
Cooper Garcia

move somewhere else
"if there are niggers mugging you on your way home it's not robbery, you should just move somewhere else"
start a country
Yeah sure.

Hunter Ross
Hunter Ross

It's theft because we have no say as to where our taxes go.

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

If "niggers mug" you every day on the same road for years it stops being theft
Taxes aren't a surprise, you have plenty of time to move out if you don't want to pay them

Nathan Cook
Nathan Cook

with representation, it isn't theft

without representation, it is theft

americans don't feel represented. we haven't built a bridge in 50 years. when we do build anything it costs 10x what it should because of cronyism and labor unions. ergo, that form of taxation is theft.

Jaxson Allen
Jaxson Allen

It's good to know that when I kill you tomorrow, it won't be murder because you knew about the event beforehand.

Jaxon Brown
Jaxon Brown

You don't have to have taxes to do any of those things you fucking idiot.

Landon Reed
Landon Reed

it never gets payed back you retard

Bentley Turner
Bentley Turner

worse yet, sometimes trillions of dollars just disappear (the pentagon could not account for 21 trillion dollars) and the media asks no questions.

pentagon loses the money: thenation.com/article/pentagon-audit-budget-fraud/

NYT, instead of asking questions, kind of defends the pentagon by attacking somebody asking questions. even if it is the bimbo ocasio cortez who is doing it for her own reasons, this is what happens when you point out the truth, even if you're a darling of the progressive movement.

nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/politics/fact-check-pentagon-medicare-alexandria-ocasio-cortez.html

most people just read headlines. they get conditioned to think "oh NYT says that's not an issue", so when anybody brings it up they don't think it's an issue. part of their brain turns off because the media plays these tricks all the time.

Ayden Edwards
Ayden Edwards

Taxation has been government approved theft since February 8, 1913.

Any taxes that are levied without a direct vote of the people are theft. Plain and simple.

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Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

*February 3, 1913

Austin Parker
Austin Parker

so if i steal from you but then buy you something you may or may not want, after taking my cut of course, you won't complain? give me your address

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

Imagine someone gives you $100. If you had earned that money you would spend it more wisely than if you do nothing for it. The government is inefficient and sucks at spending

Angel Wilson
Angel Wilson

the pentagon could not account for 21 trillion dollars
That's false. No credible source has came forth saying this is factual

Carter Gutierrez
Carter Gutierrez

How is taxation theft?
The better question to ask is "how is taxation NOT theft?" because taxation by definition is an enforced wealth redistribution that has no basis in reality/the natural order. It is theft regardless of the benefits because there is no benefits to those who are already and should rightfully be self-sufficient. It's basically a punishment for self-sufficiency.


That's not a choice that's an ultimatum since taxes are enforced and in no way "voluntary".

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Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

Its theft because im a selfish moron and dont wanna do anything for anybody else and thinks the good things in life just fall from the sky

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

you realize that journalists who prepared that nation article about the pentagon's accounting frauds have sources within the pentagon right? and they also have off the record interviews and conversations they draw upon. and those sources are not going to identify themselves because they'd go to prison. the article mentions nobody from the DoD would talk on the record other than the public affairs staff. that's on the record though - they don't want to be known because they would go to jail.

Austin Diaz
Austin Diaz

Government announces "If you work in this country, we will take a portion of your income, and invest it in police, military, roads, etc".

Government takes money and spends it on niggers and jewelry

Government didn't hold up their end of the bargain, tax was taken unjustly, taxation was theft.

If politicians weren't such corrupt faggots, people wouldn't be so miffed.

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Jayden Brooks
Jayden Brooks

The natural order is survival of the fittest. Why should I care about your claims to some “possession.” If I steal your shit, then it’s your job to come get it back.

Or are you now interested in a social contract to have someone get your stuff back for you?

Chase Bennett
Chase Bennett

Based

Luke Peterson
Luke Peterson

Just because a crackhead breaks into your shed and steals your lawnmover to
cut the grass at the local park, doesn't make him any less of a theif.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

so therefore taxation is theft!

Thanks for proving my point I guess. Normally yeah, shit gets stolen in nature, only in this case it's a non-entity middle man doing the stealing from the stupid people like OP who have been convinced that they aren't actually being stolen from. But hey, funny shit happens with clown world fiat funny money.

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Joseph Russell
Joseph Russell

The natural order is survival of the fittest. Why should I care about your claims to some “possession.” If I steal your shit, then it’s your job to come get it back.
t.nigger.. Every damn time.

Jordan Russell
Jordan Russell

Taxation makes sense if the government does not overspend (spend more than their tax revenue).
It´s much simpler than having to have absolutely EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING is userpay. And you have to have all kinds of town meetings all the time yourself, and then and there decide to pay for it collectively together anyways, or not have it.

Nicholas Price
Nicholas Price

i don't want a road, it makes it easier for immigrants to find my town. wouldn't need protection if we were allowed to organize local civilian militias who were legally allowed to own and operate anti-air weapons.

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

It amazes me when someone doesn´t even understand why people pay taxes. Yes governments can spend money in really stupid shit. but a lot of the time they spend it on pretty reasonable shit aswell. All of which you would have to come together and finance out of your own pockets collectively in the city or state or whatever, anyways, or live without it.

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

if a robber builds a road "for you" its not theft
brb i'll be at your house soon and you're gonna get some top quality roads

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Jason Morales
Jason Morales

All of which you would have to come together and finance out of your own pockets collectively in the city or state or whatever, anyways, or live without it.
Why do you hate choice so much?

Elijah Gutierrez
Elijah Gutierrez

I'm in commiefornia too and the taxes are insane. They put hidden taxes in everything. If You are an illegal alien in commiefornia you're literally a God. No wonder they come in droves. The incentive is too high. I would come here too as an illegal. Get to break the law, not pay taxes and people think you're a hybrid hero/victim. It must be nice. Meanwhile slave scam citizens are treated like dirt and legal immigrants are seen as "suckers" who wasted their time and money.

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

you could try to annex a part of a country to live on by yourself, but you are not powerful enough to protect that land as yours against those who work together, pay taxes and ensure the sovereignty of their land. You can choose this path, you're just not a powerful enough entity against those who organize into civilizations with taxes.

tough luck, pussy

Hudson Williams
Hudson Williams

Why do you hate choice so much?
I don´t but i have to call this a case of brainlettery.
You would end up formulating a government structure to manage things anyways. And then you would figure out. It´s easier and cheaper for everybody if we just tax everyone instead of every 2 seconds we need to have a budget meeting and we have to figure out how many wants this and want to pay for this.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

Even if you did go live far away from civilization the government would still want you to pay taxes since you’re residing within the country’s borders. The only way for you to escape would be to start a renegade tribe of people that can somehow fight off the influence of the state and it’s military, and that is virtually impossible in this modern day. So even in the grand scheme of things you don’t really have much of a choice when it comes to paying taxes. The government essentially owns your ass the moment your birth gets registered.

John Flores
John Flores

The government stifles all possibility of competition and sets the prices. If I don't think the product or service the government is offering is worth the cost, I either still have my money stolen anyway or I get thrown in prison.

Charles Foster
Charles Foster

The government stifles all possibility of competition
Where?
and sets the prices.
Sets the price on what?

Thomas Sanders
Thomas Sanders

Fuck the government
End of

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

I am an algorithmic trader (developed software that executes various strategies automatically). I run the software from my home and it makes me money. The government demands a slice of that money. Do you really think that's fair?

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

1200$ of my property taxes went to school transportation cost. I home school my kids. Went to appeal it and was told, “one day you’ll make the better choice and send your kids to school” the council then continued and discussed changing grammar on documents for the next hour, argued if someone with a 5 acre property was eligible to build a small shed, which they denied .Useless system.

Jonathan Barnes
Jonathan Barnes

Taxation makes sense if the government does not overspend (spend more than their tax revenue).

Which doesn't make sense because the government is literally composed of people. Corruptible, greedy people who just happen to know/hang with the crowd or other greedy people.

It´s much simpler than having to have absolutely EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING is userpay. And you have to have all kinds of town meetings all the time yourself, and then and there decide to pay for it collectively together anyways, or not have it.
collectively
Theft

It amazes me when someone doesn´t even understand why people pay taxes.
Because they are forced to you dumb asshole. What part of that don't you understand? We have taxes and there's no getting past it, but don't dare call it something it isn't just because you're a stupid sheep like the rest of the herd. It's forced theft. Kind of like how you do the same with an actual sheep. You take the born sheep, keep them in a pen you designed, and then harvest the wool for yourself. The sheep may be safer, but it literally never asked for this and would live free on it's own without intervention or a pen.

Yes governments can spend money in really stupid shit. but a lot of the time they spend it on pretty reasonable shit aswell. All of which you would have to come together and finance out of your own pockets collectively in the city or state or whatever, anyways, or live without it.

That's what I just said, "a punishment for the self-sufficient". That's what a "collective" is. People who are not self-sufficient.

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Parker Moore
Parker Moore

Of course it's cheaper if you steal other people's money, user. No one is disputing that.

This thread is about whether or not stealing is right, which it obviously isn't.

Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross

Taxation IS theft.

But if a white ethnostate ever manifests, I will voluntarily pay tribute to it if they let me live there. Hell, I would be willing to double what I currently pay in taxes to the ZOG overlords currently running things.

Cooper Roberts
Cooper Roberts

Of course it's cheaper if you steal other people's money, user. No one is disputing that.
No, it´s cheaper if you tax everyone, than having an only regional tax. If you want to pay for infrastructure and a lot of other things. The fewer that share the payment, the more they each have to give to those things. So you´ll end up paying for it anyways!

The only thing that makes sense, which btw. is not this anarcho capitalist early teen i don´t understand the world nonsense. Is to have more independent local councils who decide what they do or do not want for their areas.

You realize you can easily as i said earlier you could pay 0% tax.. Not a fucking thing. Then you would have to remove every single thing.. that is paid for currently by taxpayer money. that´s a lot of things.

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

Yup, and all those mega corporations in California run the whole show too. They’re essentially the ones who you’re paying for literally everything, this is exactly why I’m totally fine with people pirating shit.

Caleb Davis
Caleb Davis

I'm in commiefornia too and the taxes are insane. They put hidden taxes in everything. If You are an illegal alien in commiefornia you're literally a God. No wonder they come in droves. The incentive is too high. I would come here too as an illegal. Get to break the law, not pay taxes and people think you're a hybrid hero/victim. It must be nice. Meanwhile slave scam citizens are treated like dirt and legal immigrants are seen as "suckers" who wasted their time and money.
Well their economy is not looking very good. If the san andreas fault doesn´t land them in the ocean, they´re still taking in water with all those immigrants. It´s crazy.. The state is just going to end up going bankrupt if they keep wasting that tax revenue and not getting enough back in.

Chase Nguyen
Chase Nguyen

you earn money
goverment doesn't earn money
goverment takes your money

how is it not theft?

Kayden Cook
Kayden Cook

how is taking money from the unwilling under threat of violence theft?

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

The argument is - you used the infrastructure of this country to profit, made better by the existence of government, therefore you need to pay tax.

Ayden Anderson
Ayden Anderson

because in my country my taxes are used to help fund the importation of shitskins.

Jack Green
Jack Green

Mobster mentality
I'll protect you, but you gotta pay

Blake Scott
Blake Scott

How would you run a nation and its infrastructure and its operation without tax revenue? You´d have endless meetings deciding what to have and what not to have and who pays for it.

That´s what the point of government is. It can´t create money. It redistributes wealth it accrues in tax revenue and spends it on its operation.

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

Again just set the tax rate to zero and have zero government spending. Just say goodbye to all those things. And if you still want those things. Make a meeting and get enough together that you can pay for it. It´s the same thing eventually.

Gabriel Edwards
Gabriel Edwards

I'm not arguing for the claim, just simply providing an analogy for the argument.

Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

Yes they are stopping you.
You don't even technically own land in most countries because it is taken from you if you don't pay tax on it.
We're all slaves to the government. If you stop paying them you lose your freedom.

The sooner you realize this the sooner you realize why paying attention to politics is so important.
We get to choose our masters.

Julian Long
Julian Long

I'm not arguing for the claim, just simply providing an analogy for the argument.
Yes, they take a portion of your income in taxes. And uses it to pay for what the government spends money on which are a lot of things. You can say it´s theft i don´t want them to take any of my money. SURE. YOU CAN DO THAT. set tax rate to zero and don´t have any government spending. There you go. Would not take long before you figure out. Shit.. why don´t we have that anymore. who is going to pay for that.
Well, you set the tax rate to zero so you don´t want it i guess.

Ryder Evans
Ryder Evans

Brazilian favelas have an alternative government that provides "public services" using money from crimes, HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE.

Charles Turner
Charles Turner

Again, I'm not arguing for it. But I get it, especially when we are paying these individuals in office to do a shit job for a lot of money. This should not be happening, these positions weren't meant to be held by one person for over a few years.

Ryan Jones
Ryan Jones

Again, I'm not arguing for it. But I get it, especially when we are paying these individuals in office to do a shit job for a lot of money. This should not be happening, these positions weren't meant to be held by one person for over a few years.
Now we are getting somewhere. Indeed, as the addage goes no taxation without representation! They money they take should not be thrown around on frivolous shit. But should be spent on things that are necessary for it to be spent on. Not as other peoples personal piggy bank to just do what they will with. Because the tax revenue is really all working american peoples money. It´s their money, it´s not the governments money. It´s their money! So what they take should be spent on decent things. It´s also for instance totally unacceptable if the government decides to overspend, it doesn´t have enough tax revenue. It goes into debt. THIS HAS A HEFT PRICE TAG. It means you the tax payer is going to pay for it eventually. Which means the more you do such a practice. It means you either increase gdp or you raise taxes later on.. So it becomes very very obvious how you need to spend within your means. And not throw the money away on stupid shit.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

Social contract theory is absolute nonsense. It presupposes (without any thorough argument) that the state must exist in order for civilization to exist, and creates an ex post facto justification that twists the idea of a contract (which is a reasonable thing) into such a perverse definition so as to be unrecognizable. This supposed social contract has none of the characteristics of any other contract; if you tried to invoke those traits in any court, the judge would laugh at you, because they're too stupid to take seriously.

Luis Morris
Luis Morris

It really depends on what are they taxing you for

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

It really depends on what are they taxing you for
Yeah the problem is not taxes itself. It´s taxmoney taken and spent on idiotic shit. It´s basically them taking your money and then just blowing them on juggling clowns and confetti. And going. Ah was i supposed to build a bridge with that money? I didn´t know!

James Hughes
James Hughes

Of courses its thief, its taking money from people without their consent.

Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson

actually yea, they are stopping us. try living in a forest and they'll evict you

Oliver Hill
Oliver Hill

Taxation can't be theft because from the moment of your birth you're a constant consumer of goods and services without ever paying. This is because we're communal and tribal, not individualistic and anarchic. This inherent social contract is unavoidable (humanity will die without it) and transcends political theory. Since this type of one sided consumerism is unavoidable, it is equally unavoidable to admit certain projects will have to go above a person's need to full source of personal income for their own benefit, their groups benefit, and overall betterment of the nation.

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

without ever paying
Your parents pay. It's not as though you're a parasite on "society" at large, you are the financial responsibility of the immediate people who made you.

Lincoln White
Lincoln White

The majority of the federal budget is spent on entitlement programs. So tell me how stealing a portion of my check so that some single mom in her 40s can buy her monthly 10th bag of family sized Cheetos isn’t theft. Tell me how taking money out of my paycheck before I even have access to it so I can pay for a 70 year old smoker’s doctors appointment isn’t theft. Tell me how syphoning money away from the wages I worked for in order to fund Planned Parenthood who are totally not going to spend that money on abortion because they like pinky promised they wouldn’t ISN'T THEFT.

David Nguyen
David Nguyen

Does he protect your overweight ass from foreign invasion?

The bait lol

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

It's theft but your Arabic ass is too stupid to understand that.

Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

You dont "have" to have taxes to have all that, but you also -aint- gonna have all that without taxes. How many neighborhoods can afford to pave their own roads, school their kids, or emergency services, and also administer & maintain them?

This whole anti-tax thing is just butthurt rich kids that dont wanna contribute to the commom good because someone else has greater direct benefit from it. Its an extremely shortsighted mindset. Their comfy little bubble will crash hard when they understand that their fortunes are dependent upon a literate and accessible working-class and their dumbasses begged for that to be thrown away so they could save a few pennies in the short-run.

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

Shut up retard. Your country is being destroyed by immigrants

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

Has a robber ever (done inane bullshit) for you?
Trannies, state cover ups, illegal camps, welfare for black people isn't helping me.

Isaac Phillips
Isaac Phillips

No one is stopping you from building a boat or going into the forest to live tax free retard. But if you want to be part of a community then you have to contribute to it

Of course they are. Try buying land out in the sticks without paying property, income or sales taxes. Try building a structure without asking for permission from local zoning and building authorities. Try home schooling your kids without the state nosing into your business. Try owning a pistol for self defense. You're yet another dumb edgy fat kid who knows fuck all about the real world.

Justin Nguyen
Justin Nguyen

This whole anti-tax thing is just butthurt rich kids

Half the US tax revenue goes to social security and medicare. Another quarter goes to a military that is ridiculously inefficient and bloated. At the state level, half goes to muh 50 million dollar elementary school architectural masterpiece and other silly porkbarrel projects. Fuck off.

Brandon Evans
Brandon Evans

pave their own roads, school their kids, or emergency services, and also administer & maintain them?
None of that is for you, it's to train you and help you be a good little slave for the government profit like the fucking ant you are.

James Martin
James Martin

you’re paying into a dying system. don’t pay taxes; you’ll be in better financial position to protect yourself from what comes next (ancapistan).

Jacob Perry
Jacob Perry

If I refuse to pay them, I get kidnapped at gunpoint and put in prison.

Seems like theft, and while having none is unrealistic we permit way too much.

James Walker
James Walker

How many neighborhoods can afford to pave their own roads, school their kids, or emergency services, and also administer & maintain them?

First, you should be putting your own kids through school. If you can't afford to, don't have kids. You want me to feed and clothe your kids too?

Second, infrascture and emergency services are generally a small proportion (25% or so) of a local budget. Most goes to muh schools. It doesn't cost much to pave roads, particularly if you're not paying muh union rates.

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

thieves often take money from others so they can buy themselves things that they couldn't otherwise afford. (((EBT)))

Taxation becomes theft the moment you can vote to apply a tax to your neighbor that doesn't apply to you as well.

Wyatt Gomez
Wyatt Gomez

Taxation becomes theft when you start spending it in shit I didn't allow you to spend it on.
Taxation becomes theft when you start giving money to illegal aliens.
Taxation becomes theft when you fight wars for Israel.
Taxation becomes theft when you spend it import the third world.
Taxation becomes theft when Jews and corporations like Google get a tax break, while I get a tax hike, and they tell our government how to run.
Taxation becomes theft when you take my money and give to a single nigger mother for having her 6th niglet.
Taxation becomes theft when a I've been paying taxes my whole life and a newly arrived illegal gets amnesty and qualifies for social security.
Taxation becomes theft when you give my tax dollars to fund healthcare but then charge me $1,500 for a 5 minute checkup.
Taxation becomes theft when a government funded college doesn't accept me because I'm white.
Taxation becomes theft when a government institution didn't hire me because I'm white.
30% of my paycheck gets taken from me so I have the privilege of replacing my suspension every year because instead fixing the roads, the state has keep all the niggers alive.
I understand it's different in Germany. But in America, our money is spent on the military to protect your pathetic country and on welfare to keep the worst dregs of society from starving and rioting.

Asher Price
Asher Price

implying labor isn't cost

Another Galaxy brain lefty, ladies and gents

Aaron Thompson
Aaron Thompson

I pay my taxes and the roads still suck, the police don't do their fucking jobs and the military is fighting wars I don't want them to.

Someone explain to me how taxes aren't theft.

Noah Reyes
Noah Reyes

"Brainlet" here
I'm unsure how to come to a conclusion on whether I support taxes or not.
Aren't taxes a benefit to an economy? A municipality or state? At the same time, I'd like to not to have a majority of my earnings being taken or used improperly.

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor

Right but what about when you give it to people I'm not affiliated with who spend it on those things for their own ingroup?

Chase Campbell
Chase Campbell

explain how it's a false equivalency? Because he didn't dress it all up in the trappings of public institutions? You need water, don't you? So he definitely gave you something you need, right? Or can you survive without water?

Ooooo, I get it- it's a "false equivalency" because it demonstrates the inadequacy and absurdity of your argument, therefore the counterargument can't be legitimized by engaging with it honestly. Makes total sense now

Cameron Flores
Cameron Flores

spotted the basedboi who's never cut a tree down before

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

It's simple, Mohammad.
Lets say, the police budget this year is one billion euros. You and everyone else gives 10, the police are good to go for a year. Also, no money is stolen by middlemen and bureaucrats.
Also, why only one police? Perhaps I want the more expensive one, the quicker/faster one.
See what I mean? No? I thought as much...

Brayden Cruz
Brayden Cruz

go read some *outdated and debunked political theory cause I'm an ignorant Hard-R

Fixed that for you nigger

Gabriel Lee
Gabriel Lee

Invaders

it's refreshing to see others start to call them what they really are.

Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

imagine having so much free time with nothing else to do that you spam repetative threads and troll with the same retarded lines, all while knowing that you are wrong
maybe its just an artificial neural network that spams this shit on pol and makes responses? I refuse to believe that there are people willing to do that shit for free. Unless they aren't doing it for free

Samuel Lopez
Samuel Lopez

According to the constitution act of 1867, taxation is held to consist of the following characteristics

it is enforceable by law;
imposed under the authority of the legislature;
levied by a public body; and
intended for a public purpose.

In order for a tax to be validly imposed, it must meet the requirements of s. 53

Bills for appropriating any Part of the Public Revenue, or for imposing any
Tax or Impost, shall originate in the House of Commons.
Recommendation of Money Votes
It shall not be lawful for the House of Commons to adopt or pass any Vote,
Resolution, Address, or Bill for the Appropriation of any Part of the Public Rev￾enue, or of any Tax or Impost, to any Purpose that has not been first recommended
to that House by Message of the Governor General in the Session in which such
Vote, Resolution, Address, or Bill is proposed.

Owen Richardson
Owen Richardson

the "21 gazillion" number was also the result of some "creative" math by the journalist

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

This assumes that taxes are being utilized effectively and not embezzled or just plain redistributed without the consent of the people who are being taxed. The argument made that taxation is theft is based on the principle people vote for politicians that raise taxes without the consent of the people who voted for them or consent from the minority that did not vote for them at all. In any other arrangement of trading a good and service one makes the choice to part with their money for a good or service while in the case of taxation the government takes your money for a good or service that you necessarily did not want or need. Taxation is ultimately repossession of currency as a means to pay for goods and services for such things as a military, law enforcement, certain regulations and etc... it depends on the degree and how it is utilized. Taxation can be theft but not necessarily if there is a check and balance. A roofer doesn't just take my money and get to work without me explicitly requesting them to do so.

Connor King
Connor King

so is ours

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Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

It's not theft. It's extortion.