The US will soon get crushed by the weight of their debt, just like the Soviet Union was

The US will soon get crushed by the weight of their debt, just like the Soviet Union was.
How do you think the future will play out? Here's my prediction:
The red states will seceded from the US, but will soon after realize that without blue state funding they are fucked. Blue state USA will enjoy economic recovery and start shooting any red state rapefugees trying to enter.
China will replace the US as the world's superpower, ushering in an era of global socialism. The EU joins this global socialist alliance voluntarily as does Russia, neo colonial Africa and large parts of South America. The remaining resistance gets crushed by foreign interventions.

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The united states ain't allowing secession at all, unlike the European Union that allows member states to leave their economic pact, even if the first one to try it is totally failing miserably all by itself during that whole process.
For better or worse, the US will not balkanize. In the worst case, they'll just print more money and pretend that everything's fine.

sounds amazing, cant wait

you underestimate the political hatred in my country swiss

1. The US can keep rolling over that debt
2. USSR collapsed was engineered by KGB insiders who knew they could profit better if it happened
If US collapses it will be political.

US wont sunk in debt because they are in debt to themselves. Who's gonna request paying off their debt, jewish bankers that sit in congress?

You spend too much time on here or reading the news. Most people I the states don’t follow events nor care.

More proof krautniggers are morons. Enjoy your upcoming financial collapse.

It's always the minority of people who care that make the history. Majority never cares and always follows. That's the cornerstone of any radicalism or revolution movements.

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China is not socialist

Its more or less a rising ethnocentric national socialist state without the drive for war.

Thats why the jews are forcing the US to drive economic war against them, because they realised China wont give them any influence over their country.

Jews have always depended on being the masters of the most powerful nations across the globe in order to advance their agenda, China represents a threat to them. Not as dangerous a threat as Germany did, but a threat nontheless.

The US debt will simply be stripped away slowly. By raising pension age etc. Removing benefits..

this soviet knows his history

>Blue state USA will enjoy economic recovery and start shooting any red state rapefugees trying to enter.

are you referring to the red state people as rapists? are you fucking retarded?

I think you'll continue to see what is already happening now. The interior of the country will continue to hollow out at an increasing pace wherein the youth of the red states continue to move to the coasts and SW Texas area in search of economic opportunities. It'll be more like what Argentina and Russia are like.

Cope

They owe all there debt in there fake money. Hyperinflation kicks and the real value of thier debt drops to almost zero.

Idiots

They are more prone to be rapists, not really a surprise that rednecks are like that

Bingo

>The US will soon get crushed by the weight of their debt,
Not true. As a percentage of GDP, the debt is a little high but normal for the US. The GOP promised us less spending, but so far they haven't delivered anything but more corruption and ethics violations.

germniggers are retarded. all the rapists in this country are in the hood or jewish neighborhoods

Russian user is right regarding this point.

>Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

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They will declare FED fraudulent and will keep on going like they always do.
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Even though the reds were bankrupted out of existence, thanks to Reagan's acceleration of military spending and increasing the national debt, somehow Yankistan is able to kick the can down the road and simply ignore it.

Anyone with sense would have cut the defence budget to 110% of the Chinks a long time ago. Fuck these foreign wars for resources, fuck giving billions per year in grants to (((Israel))) and fuck (((globalism))).

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I think California and Texas were the only 2 to even hint at secession.

If we go down everything else will come with it. All our currencies are basically linked.

Most blue states are only blue because of big cities. Illinois is nearly all red, but fucking Chicago turns it blue. When Tyrone and his homies rolls into my AO, he’s going to get slaughtered.

Debt is a tool.
The more debt you, the more revolving money you have.
The richest man in the world has more debt than you could ever acquire, even in a hundred lifetimes.

What if the USA just deny paying back their debt? Wouldn't this solve the crisis from their point of view?

fuck off mudslime
nobody in america cares about what outsiders think about how america is run
germans are sperg losers that have continually fucked the globe over for decades

Debt is slavery, slavery that you sign up for with a smile on your face dreaming about credit scores.

The mistake is wanting to pay back the debt no matter what. The borrowers get paid interests for cases like this. It is absolutely ok to not pay back the debt. But on the flip side, you would have to live with higher interests or no credit at all the next time you want money.

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national debt is indefinitely sustainable as long as the interest rates on it are lower than the growth rate of the nominal gross domestic product. as long as this one condition is fulfilled, the government can borrow and spend as much as it wants without risk of defaulting.

Interesting.

Question is, will we see the end of this system?

>you underestimate the political hatred in my country

Sadly, this is correct. However you divide it, red vs blue; dem vs repub; north vs south, it's all the same. Jews and Nazis didn't hate each other as much as the two sides in America do right now. America is now two separate cultures who are out to destroy each other. It may not be a full-on shooting war, but it's a war nonetheless.

>secession
>states
when the US collapses there won't be any fucking states, it'll be a free for all until some unknown faction comes out on top

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#1 culprit is the debt / dollar crisis that is staring us dead in the face. Massive population decline, massive emigration to Asia. The western world most reliant on the dollar fractional reserve banking system will experience a depression, starvation, crime, poverty, illness, drugs, etc. Most of our population are useless eaters being subsidized by debt that the world thinks we'll pay back. The first to go will be obese mobility scooter riding people, followed by people in inner cities.

Red counties secede, blue counties all die because they have no food. The end.

The whole planet will be fucked.

it is the most efficient system we have, and it has seen centuries of both theoretical refinement and real-life tinkering. so unless you deliberately overthrow it (no idea why you'd want to), we'll almost certainly see more of it.

>unknown faction

No brother, it's not unknown. Your grandchildren will know it well.

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Good. I hope 95% of the population starves

Once everyone stops trying to get along, yeah. We'll likely have to wait for the next major resource war, possibly after colonizing space unless we have a global collapse before then.

You're talking about MMT. Eventually this is the next step, however the end goal in all of this is all assets, land will be held by the .0001%. MMT is just a mechanism to prolong this monstrosity of financial alchemy created by the central banks.

Debt to whom exactly? The federal reserve? It can be erased in one night by flipping over to the standard.

Haaaa nigga good luck with that. These people are willing to destroy entire nations, kill 100's of millions of people to put in their Central banks. Their club has moles in every agency in our Government. They didn't get where they are today by being just smart, they are fucking ruthless and are willing to shit all over the chess board before they even get close to being checkmated.

>hey, guys, wanna read my leftist fanfic?
Germoney won’t even exist in 10 years, we’ll be fine.

they are indebted to private banks. They will come to collect.

Just like Greece, They sold some of their islands and infrastructure to pay back their debts. This is going to happen world wide, a great feudal system is being setup right under our feet. The FED and Trump are setting the stage for financial cataclysm once this "Everything bubble" pops. The distortion, the manipulation, is un-fucking real right now. Markets go up on bad news solely because the FED will be right there to cut rates and launch QE. It's clown world out there. People thought our politics was bad? holy shit, It pales in comparison to "markets".

Who cares at this point there will be no whites left nowhere in this world, let them crank up that debt as high as possible.

there's nothing wrong with having a central bank. they are the reason why you no longer have to bother with tens of thousands of different currencies, all of different value, that might or might not even be accepted at your preferred grocery store.

>Blue state funding.
Do you think the blue states fund the red states because their banking is in a blue state and get taxed there?
They produce nothing.

It would take a civil war and a stalemate to split up the US.

How many times must I repeat myself.

As long as we can export the dollar and import more people we will.never experience hyper inflation.

Our economy is a Ponzi scheme. You were sold out for money by your government.

In an ideological sense, sure nothing wrong with Central banks if used properly. This is where we run into problems. Through artificially low interest rates we have massive distortions in our "markets". Unprofitable companies staying afloat on cheap debt to buy back their shares (Zombie corporations), some 45% of corporate debt bonds rated junk, 13 trillion and counting in global debt yielding negative interest rates.
You can see where this is going, even the FED admitted that their policies disproportionately helped the "rich" in an "oopsies" moment. Ben Bernanke was on record saying that the FED atleast made the great depression worse because they were tightening into weakness and slow down in the economy.

All American debt could be paid in one payment at a time of their choosing.
Just fuck with inflation in a time of crisis.

Fuck balkanizing it's winner take all.

this is terrible analysis.
USA won’t spilt-up anytime soon. also, red states are where food is grown, oil’s produced, and minerals are located. blue states would suffer unbelievably. china, is grossly overextended in places like africa, and burdened with debt like the rest of the world. germany, on the other hand won’t exist in 20 years. we’ll all get to watch germany fall to the caliphate on TV.

The soviets were expecting to watch the US fall, live on their TVs too, you buttergolem.
What's your point?

very low interest loans are very good for the economy as a whole, allowing for a lot more new startups and investments, which outweigh the impact of "zombie corporations".
though of course, not letting corporations fail due to market forces is certainly bad and ought to be minimized as much as possible.

Very low interest loans to companies that are unprofitable ..doesn't make sense. This also punishes savers on their interest bearing savings accounts, it also causes inflation in assets of the rich. So we've followed the neo-keynesian model to it's natural end. Debt saturation, perpetually lower interest rates - negative even, central banks monetizing debt (debasing the currency)...which is transferring wealth to the top. The keynesian experiment has failed, full stop. "Emergency tools" used during the great recession are now going to be standard normal policy going forward including things like MMT, possibly UBI. Yes low interest rates spurs growth in the short term, but yet the FED are panicking because people are not spending. They are trying to push inflation up but people are tapped out, consumers are maxxed out with debt. Once rates go negative who is willing to invest in a guaranteed loss and has that type of money? Central banks who can just print the money and buy those negative yielding debts.
The end game is clear, the Central banks will end up owning everything.

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You are out of your mind. The blue states do not produce any wealth. They steal it. In both red and blue states, Republicans pay the taxes, and Dems get the government checks. If there is a split, the red states will expel all niggers and spics, and send them to the blue states. We can grow our own food, produce our own oil, build and maintain our homes and our infrastructure. Once we remove the rapacious Dem parasites from our jugular, they will starve to death, and will be eaten by their precious nigger pets.

>All 50 states secede from the nation, leaving only Washington DC
>DC claims bankruptcy
>50 states create new currency
>it all starts over again

I will keep it short and simple. The next designated by the intellectual elite super-power after USA is China and it will have a similar relationship with Israel as US has. Remember, that average lifespan of empires is around 250 years and it's not a coincidence - it can be predicted and "plan B" initiated, in this case involving China, India and Singapore.

Latest estimates put it at 30 trillion $ by 2023, 5 trillion more than your graph suggests.

the real question is, where will all the liberal cowards migrate to when the bogaloo starts? surely they won't go to latin america, I don't want any of these fuckers coming here with their fancy university papers stealing our jobs and putting more leftism in the governmenet

Cannot wait for it to happen.

Lol no. There will be a collapse and all the democrat jew niggers will eat each other when they begin to starve.

It will actually be the rural whites with guns and food who will survive.

remember when before the 9-11 thing they were looking for like 20 trillion dollars, lost somehow?

that would've covered everything

theyre coming down here.

I'm eagerly waiting for it. Just imagine all the happenings when the US collapse. I'm already stocked up ammo

The US will defailt on most of its debt.

Just imagine, if they default on the debt held by the Saudis, the global economy won't be affected negatively.

If the big powers, USA, EU, China, default on their debt at the same time, their credit rating relative to each other won't be affected, the global economy won't be affected.

And let's be honest, this money would have went on terrorism and financing the spread of jihadist islam, so in a way, this would be a national security threat prevention.

The problem is annual US GDP growth after you subtract government debt is less than 1%.

The entire thing is a ponzi scheme to keep the economy afloat long enough for the ultra wealth to buy up all the assets and establish corporate domination of various markets. Then let the thing crash only to propose a "solution" that essentially eliminates the middle class and makes every person a government slave in exchange for enough pittance to survive.

Debt is the weapon they will use to create a no-rights cybernetic control matrix you can't ever escape from.

It won't be like that, both sides are invested in continued global US hegemony which they undermined themselves by their idiotic economic system (should have remained in the 19th-20th century setting, which is basically a freer version of what china is doing now), the instant enough countries stop buying US treasury bonds it's ogre. Read this text:

unz.com/mhudson/de-dollarizing-the-american-financial-empire/

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There's no indication that debt will have any effect on the economy of the United States or how the government functions.

What's going to kill the United States is the mass immigration from the 3rd world. In 10-20 years, the Southwest (California, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico) will split off from the United States and form a second Mexico, and it will be ruled over by Mexicans. That's gonna be the catalyst that breaks the United States apart; if the secession is successful, that is.

Muttistan is on borrowed time, but the debt has jack shit to do with it. The debt doesn't matter. It will never be repaid and no one cares.

The states with the largest independence movements are probably Alaska and Hawaii. The meme state for independence is Texas, but barely 2% are in favor of succession. Even then, Alaska's is only around 5-6% and I couldn't find much info on Hawaii's but I'll guess probably around 7%. Even Puerto Rico's is lower.

American independence movements are put to shame by some of Europe's movements. Catalan had over 90% wanting independence. That cannot be beat. They'll probably never get it, but they'll never stop wanting it, so its going to probably lead to a near-permanent resentment that white America isn't quite close to understanding yet.

This. This is basically one of the reasons Kissinger decided to make a deal with many Middle Eastern nations that they would only exchange oil, the lifeblood of modern economies, in US dollars, and an non-violatible contract as well, unless you want to end up as Libya. It substancially increased the value of the new US fiat currency system after Nixon got us off the silver standard, as part of the "Nixon Shock." The fiat currency would be valued through the economic power it represents.

they will give them the national parks, maybe public some buildings

It would also increase it's circulation and allow it to inflate or deflate in value much less, while increasing the US dollar's value as a basket currency, transferrable and usable throughout the entire world through sheer use of utility, allowing the US to print even MORE money.

You're a retard and we got rid of multiple currencies at the time of the constitution.

Central banks are a complete scam and I've yet to see anyone disprove pic related.

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THIS. THIS IS CORRECT. Most of the federal deficit, around $17-18 Trillion of 20 trillion was owed to the US own citizens in the form of Social Security, and other welfare programs, because not only can we not properly create welfare programs (which are detrimental to intrinsic merits of the family, and cause destruction and psychological suffering), we can't even solve the funding issues allocated to those programs or eliminate inefficiencies, because no politician has brass like the Old Right did.

Soviets did not control the global reserve currency. USA is exceptional in this regard and will be for several more decades.

debt doesnt matter if you have food, red states will be fine while commie hives starve

You do realize the Blue states are the ones insisting on inviting the rapefugees, then shuffling them to places like Minnesota, correct? All while they pile on the docile spics to do their hard labor and be underpaid servile underclass in their states. The Red States are actually net the fiscal competent ones, when you remove all the tax benefits and exemptions like the ones Trump removed and Cuomo blew up over. Blue states are just skilled bearocracy navigators. Furthermore, your talking about the same Red states, who even though benefit the most from welfare programs, want them eliminated. Farming subsidies are made possible by the Property tax needed to be paid on exorbinant amounts of land used to produce food, among other considerations, as well as exemptions like Ag Exemptions.

SALT exemptions used predominantly by blue states, 90% of users earn$100,000+, and apply for $20,000 average in tax exemptions in NY alone.

You don't know shit about america, just like you autists don't know shit about immigration.

I'll give you props though for selling us overpriced luxury cars that are made like shit, versus the ones you sell in germany.

Jow Forums will be the only board to survive

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+15. И Йэллoycтoyн бoмбaнёт. Toгдa-тo зaживём, yххх.

it doesn't matter if they refuse to pay it back
others just have to refuse to lend them any more

future generations are going to regard pic related as a documentary

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US ain't paying debt. Dept is denominated in US monies, so if it all crashes the dept evaporates.

Hard to believe we owe the jews that much.

Our money is still worth more than yours dummkopf, we also have this “nationalist pride” that really prevents balkanization.

Only place that could leave would be California, fuck California.

You dont owe jews shit, you do owe your boomers their retirement money though, big time.

Holy shit