America has 11 true aircraft carriers, the UK soon will have 2

Russia only has 1 miserable one, China soon has 2 and Europe... yes, Europe only has 1 true carrier, the French Charles de Gaulle, the only nuclear powered carrier outside of the US navy carrier fleet.

Tell me why Europe shouldn’t band together to increase the carrier fleet size of Europe to 3-4? Carriers are necessary to project force in the Middle East, Asia, the Med, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa.

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Need to spend money on dem programs.

UK has one going to dry dock to fix leaks because it’s sinking and one half built.

We should spend money in a more productive way...
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How much beer can we get for that price?

Carriers are yesterday’s tech

fuck beer. just chug down some rubbing alcohol.

"Europe has 1"

Nice try, kraut - its French.

>America
>Blocks your path
>Don't even try kiddo

American has 10 of these pieces of shit because the American military is zoged out and we buy worthless shit because (((they))) profit from it.

The future is about hypersonic missiles and drone swarms.

>America has 11 true aircraft carriers, the UK soon will have 2

So America will soon have 13 then?

Unironically this

nuke tech is good but carriers are just a military industrial complex abortion
id rather get me some of those cruise missiles, maybe some rocket artillery, anti air - much more useful than some bucket which could get ganked by a legion of somalians in dinghies

Gerald R. Ford class will be a railgun platform in the end.

A FUCKING RAMP

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The UK made aircraft carriers because the PM at the time wanted to win votes in Scotland by giving the shipbuilders there work. It is shitty, isn't even nuclear and will be sunk the first time it enters combat.

Why would some shitalian pretend he can drink beer, you're smaller than a beer keg

>Ramp
No thanks

So 2 in total.

Which is why every important military in the world is currently building some because of how stupid everyone else is but you.

Yeah the bit where it’s not even nuclear really makes me giggle

>prop shaft seals leaking

I still don't understand how they fucked up 150 year old technology

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You forgot 5G active denial systems installed on every street corner

Cruise missile frigates are more valuable than aircraft carriers. Whats even the point of manned aircraft these days?

Knowing Europeans they prolly convert those carriers into refugee vessels

Yes, 13.

If you want your own carriers you go ahead and build them, there is no "we" in EU. Only smaller countries you krauts keep as economical hostages.

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Does it count as an aircraft carrier if it doesn’t currently carry aircraft?

We should reduce our carrier fleet.
What say we only keep operational 6 of the big carriers, 5 of the support or "pocket carriers", and mothball the rest?
We'd save big money.
If needed the mothballed carriers can be reactivated.
What say?
We'd still have more than the rest of the world combined.

>Russia only has 1 miserable one
Why krauts always such assholes?

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>why aren't we spending more money on multi-billion dollar floating coffins?

Why indeed.

Yes.

Technically America has 18 carriers.

To bomb shit you fucking moron

In addition to that, we paid billions to buy into the completely ZOGged F35 program. It is another piece of nu-American shit designed solely to scam the taxpayers and will definitely be shot down by an old Russian missile system.

>lowest bidder parts
>probably assembled by Slavs or poos

Russia ha no functional carriers now.

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We make and sell beer in Mirandola...
You are welcome...

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As opposed to turning your one and only mobile drydock into an artificial reef?

Having carriers is literally retarded. Big targets bring only big attention. They cost like 10 billion dollars and it takes 1 Chinese missile to knock them down so everyone is afraid of losing them. Offense is the new defense.

For 11 carriers, only 6 are currently at sea, the others are either in harbor for shore leave, in reserve readiness or maintenance. If you had only 6 then only 3 would be at sea.

If Europe had 4 carriers, 2 would be at sea, max 3 at sea in a crisis.

Israel bombs syria at will vs the s300 and s400. I wouldnt worry about it tommy.

It's not easy to mothball and restart nuclear reactors

Submarines are the true measure of naval supremacy. Carriers are only good at bombing 3rd world shitholes with no submarines to protect them.

Why can't that be done with unmanned aircraft?

Why tho?

Why would you need carriers?

To defeat the US?

They’re doing a fine enough job all by their selves.

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Based Turks have already cucked ZOGmerica by buying Russian Growlers and so they got kicked out of the F-35 programme kek

It’s miserable, because it is at the end of its life cycle and, as you know, has massive problems.

US ships have been hit before and survived. Same can't be said for the Brits. Look up Exocet

If anything is proof beer lowers testosterone it's that photo

>reactivating a nuclear powered warship is simple
k

If you count carriers that only launch Harriers or equivalents, yes, But then Europe has 5 (1 French, 3 Italian and 1 Spanish).

Submarines have no defense against air attacks.

Who said you can't launch unmanned aircraft from aircraft carriers?

Nice numale gathering place you got there
One guy so short he barely makes the foto LMAO

You need carriers for operations against Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Somalia, Namibia etc.

Exocet was a brand new cutting edge missile at the time, and the Falklands war was unprecedented in NATO technology being used against itself

The america class can carry more f35s than the russian or Chinese carriers.

Except for the fact they are difficult to detect.

For operations agains [insert shithole] you use your regional allies and their airfields which you can further defend with additional radar and anti air

Going to fly a uav around the world? No, would be better to boat it around in something made to carry aircraft, like an aircraft carrier

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But they arent vs a p8. Subs are good, but relying on them is stupid. Just ask the germans.

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I thought the EU wasn't interested in bombing the sand people of the world.

Except, you know, not being detected.

Literally seething

We need battleships not some puny carriers.

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What is the point of aircraft carriers for a defensive military?
USA needs them because we protect the worlds shipping routes.
France needs one because they have land in South America
UK also has land in South America
China does whatever China wants, so they have several
And the rival always needs to have competitive tech, so Russia has one.

Germany just wants to blanda Europe up so they can seize France’s nukes, weapons, and influence for themselves.

We fucked the krauts good. Like 80 percent of their subs died due to air attacks.

Just press AZ-5, what's so hard about that?

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Can be detected by aircraft too, planes drop floating sonar bouys in the water.
The great part of carriers is the stand off distance they can achieve with airplanes

>projecting force
>advancing the jew agenda
pick 2

>For operations agains [insert shithole] you use your regional allies and their airfields which you can further defend with additional radar and anti air

Like in the invasion of Iraq where Turkey about faced and fucked the entire northern campaign?

>will be sunk the first time it enters combat
Just like any other aircraft carrier then, their only use is to bully shitholes which can't fight back

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Because regardless of having “union” in your names, Europeans fucking hate each other

How? Carriers would be used out of range of land based missiles, and coastal subs.

>USA needs them because we protect the worlds shipping routes
yea, btw YOU'RE WELCOME GUYS

Idk about you user, but that sounds pretty good to me. Freak out the Jew.

the EU is run by kikes
and you can't stop niggers from flooding your lands
why the fuck would you want the people who are trying to kill you all to have a bigger military

Part of having a dominate military force like the US is that you can wear away you enemy picking and choosing engagements that keep your main assets safe

Italy has 3

Britain couldn't singlehandedly-destroy J*pan in a week TOP KEK NIPPON PIG SHIT!!! Oh believe you me, us Brits are ITCHING for a war with Japan.We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of Japanese soil that has running water, electricity, or isn't contaminated by nuclear power plants, once the Royal airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the pakis and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY Nipponese pig shit they see. When Britain's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it

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Carriers are completely pointless if you are not trying to project force on overseas territories

"the invasion of iraq" was a 2day campaign after which 95% of the iraqi army defected
whether turkey at some point in the following years started fucking about for attention is irrelevant,

IKR

Gee, that's a pretty crazy strawman argument you set up there. First assuming I said to rely on them, second to assume a German uboat compares to technology of today. You're over here pretending as if a swedish sub wasn't able to infiltrate an entire carrier group multiple times and sink a US carrier in war games.
I know. You still have to know a general location of the sub to use either of those. That's a bold assumption that we know where our enemy is within a few nautical miles at all times.

>Carriers would be used out of range of land based missiles, and coastal subs.


Haha does this retard really think a carrier can just hide far away enough from a missile?

Even shitting countries had ICBM technology 50 years ago, what do you think will happen with modern tech and the purpose of seeking out these juicy worthless platforms?

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Develop a Goalkeeper system for Subs

Problem solved.

We'd still have more than the rest of the world combined.
Would still be cheaper.
We are 22T indebt after all.

sure that wasn't the aussies?
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KEKEKEK, the fact that our navy can fit into that littler graphic just shows how shit it is.

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Because all the american aircraft carriers "sank" during a millitary competition by a single swedish sub. They're a waste of money unless you're invading Africa or something.

True, Europe needs something to protect all those niggers and welfare recipients.

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yes, let's build more ships that release radioactive waste into our oceans to keep the industrial military complex running

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You can't park it outside the range of Russian or Chinese weapons, user

Which major power's military do you think has been the most worn down over the last 20 years?

Load them up with rail guns, laser, and A to A and S to S missiles.
We already have the hulls.

"Status: until 2020 is being renovated and upgraded." It's miserable with 50 aircraft capacity?

I often notice this from germans here:
Pride (Latin, superbia) is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins: the perversion of the faculties that make humans more like God—dignity and holiness. It is also thought to be the source of the other capital sins. Also known as hubris (Hubris (/ˈhjuːbrJs/, from ancient Greek ὕβρις) describes a personality quality of extreme or foolish pride or dangerous overconfidence, often in combination with (or synonymous with) arrogance.), or futility, it is identified as dangerously corrupt selfishness, the putting of one's own desires, urges, wants, and whims before the welfare of other people.

In even more destructive cases, it is irrationally believing that one is essentially and necessarily better, superior, or more important than others, failing to acknowledge the accomplishments of others, and excessive admiration of the personal image or self (especially forgetting one's own lack of divinity, and refusing to acknowledge one's own limits, faults, or wrongs as a human being).

Because the UK is leaving and the EU sure as shit isn't getting access to British technology or hardware.

They should have named the second ship in albion class as "Nefarious"

You mean HMS Perfidious