Porn

Just watch porn all the time, it's good for you.

Nofap is some normie meme and ppl think it gives them higher T or something.
Just fap all you want but cut it with the porn if you dont want to have problems getting it up for non 10/10 plastic photoshopped pornstars

What about quick faps every other day? I spend 10 minutes on pornhub tops to get my quick fix. Is this okay?

If you can't be comfortable without something for a little while, you're doing it too much. Self discipline is its own reward. Do it as much as you want, but know that it's NOT HEALTHY to WANT to jerk off several times every day, especially if you find yourself wishing that you had a girlfriend. If you DO have a girlfriend then it's not as much as a problem as it would be if you didn't but it may be preventing you from maximizing your fulfillment from the relationship.

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>not as much as a problem
not as much OF a problem*

there's a few parts of it that really grossed me out, quit recently and haven't turned back:

1) you're essentially training yourself to be a cuckold, pretending you're in a room watching a stranger fuck a beautiful woman while you are playing with yourself

2) the jews control the entire porn industry and even used it as a weapon. i remember reading something about an israeli invasion of some palestinian land or some shit, the first thing they did was to hijack the TV stations and broadcast porn over them. this leads me to point number 3

3) you're making yourself weak and using up the masculine energy or chi or whatever you want to call it, the energy that lets you be cool and suave around actual women, close the deal and take them home to actually fuck them. you're essentially giving that away for free to the jews, who in turn have miraculously made millions of hours of high definition porn completely free and easily accessible to everyone, everywhere. don't let them win user. let yourself feel the itch, and don't scratch it.

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Insecure virgins cant look at a naked woman because it reminds them they will never get any pussy

>asking what's wrong with watching other people fuck while you sit there alone in your room playing with your little wiener

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I think nofap is stupid, but anything can become habit forming.
If you're jerking off constantly, your room reeks, you've got a garbage basket full of jizz kleenez or a nasty ass jizz sock, then maybe take a break and find a more natural pattern.

I don't like professional porn. It's like whacking it to a Mtn. Dew commercial. So visceral and over the top and fake.
Give me a lady enjoying being dirty on camera because she finds being dirty on camera enjoyable over that stuff, any day.

In the first-ever brain study on Internet porn users, which was conducted at the Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Berlin, researchers found that the hours and years of porn use were correlated with decreased grey matter in regions of the brain associated with reward sensitivity, as well as reduced responsiveness to erotic still photos.[1]

Less grey matter means less dopamine and fewer dopamine receptors. The lead researcher, Simone Kühn, hypothesized that “regular consumption of pornography more or less wears out your reward system.”[2]

A separate German study showed users’ problems correlated most closely with the numbers of tabs open and degree of arousal.[4] This helps explain why some users become dependent on new, surprising, or more extreme, porn. They need more and more stimulation to become aroused, get an erection and attain a sexual climax.

In the first comprehensive study of male sexual behavior in the U.S., which was conducted by Alfred Kinsey in 1948 and published in the subsequent book Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, just 1 percent of men under 30 years old and 3 percent of men between 30 and 45 years old, reported erectile dysfunction.[11] Yet, in a recent study, more than a third of young military servicemen reported experiencing erectile dysfunction.[12] Other recent studies had similar findings among non-military youth around the world, with rates showing a marked increase after high-speed Internet porn became widespread.[13][14] [15]

Ecchi. Masterbation. Lesbian.

jew

jew
jew

jew
jew

turbocuck

Nazi

tough choice

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Just don‘t make it into a habit/addiction that harms your life.

>Ecchi
if you jack off to 2d, atleast chose one waifu and stick to her
>Masterbation
wut
>Lesbian
congrats, you wire and programm your brain to off to a women moaning while you touch yourself
cucked either way

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Jews produce it,
Jews dont give anything away for free - except their porn
Think about it, theyre up to no good.

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jew

nazi

based leaf

woops meant to say this was the jew:
in

How did the guy calling everyone a Jew miss the real Jew?

Where did you get the cat, if you don't mind my asking?

Stop watching porn

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>playing with your little wiener to homosexuality

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Is a powerful attention grab. Makes you stay in home instead of getting the real women out there. Gives money to certain people. Exhaust your energy.

It’s bad. Just try stepping and see what happens. You’ll learn if you’ve become addicted. It’s almost always a crutch for some unfulfilled need.

If you talk about it like it's a fix you have an addiction. I have it too.

youtube.com/watch?v=YpSsHT9LJUk

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I demand an answer please.

Not gonna lie...i tried nofap for a few weeks and all i could think of was pussy and ass...i got really moody too...but the thing is, i will never get real pussy, so why starve? Porn is a good enough replacement.

On Jow Forums. Dunno the source.

There must be a common source for top-shelf cat pics. Please don't feign ignorance. I am a highly-motivated seeker, if you know what I mean...

If you really believe you have no chance with any women at all, why not just get a whore? You can't get $200? How old are you?

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>prurient beta
fuck off

I totally agree that for the initial stages, noporn is way more important. I say that because many people only fap because of the porn they watch because of their boredom. They're not actually horny. When I did nofap, the hardest part of it was abstaining from watching porn. Even if I laid in bed and decided to fap, and did so without porn, after a few minutes Id say "this is dumb" and get up and do something else.

I thought about it desu...but i rather have no sex than pathetic paid sex... I'd regret it probably

B8ing wastes precious resources and demotivates you. Porn rewires your brain to make you progressively more dependant on novelty [degeneracy] and kills your manhood.

Seeking instant gratification in general is degenerate and should be excised from one's lifestyle.

If you fap, your desire to find a partner drops. You then end up with no one to nag you into working more getting more money for the ((state)) to tax, and endangering our debt-based society.

Do you want a socio-economic collapse?

Men want the validation of getting a woman and everything that comes with it.
Paying for sex is basically your acknowledgement of defeat.

Well said. I wish i were as eloquent as you.

Good post user

If you're a betamale, you jerk off. If you're a betamale cuck, you watch porn while jerking off.

Don't do either.

What do I get if I no fap my way into into my 30's? will I get powers?

1 You didn't say how old you are

2 All women are whores user, 99.999% sorry but it's true. But whores aren't evil, it's our degenerate society that turned them into this over years of time, and turned men into braindead boners with legs.

Our new liberal society teaches that the courting process consists of buying strange women drinks in dimly lit bars, exchanging meaningless small talk, then having numb intoxicated sex. It's not very romantic and it hasn't been since the 50's. But degeneracy did not start in the 50's and so you're not really THAT different from any other generation since the beginning of time.

If you think it over I'm sure you will reach the conclusion that masturbation to porn is more degenerate than paid sex. I can almost guarantee you that it won't be great but it is progress toward the goal of finding someone you care about, as warped as the path may seem. Also it will definitely be interesting and memorable in addition to sexually gratifying unlike countless hours of tugging your dick raw alone to porn.

ANSWER

I agree with the first part but kraut user seems like a virgin who's given up on ever having a relationship with a woman, that is worse than getting a hooker.

I have also given up on women - but it's not like I have a choice.

Can you tell me why you think jerking off all the time and watching porn is a good thing?

THIS IS DEFINITIVELY GIVING UP! You don't deserve to be happy mang. Can't have any sympathy for this position.

Not a virgin. I was a fucking chad in my teenage years. But something traumatic happened in my 20s, and now I'm a turbo introvert who avoids people. You're right about me having given up tho. I doubt i will ever get pussy again.

There has been light discussion that watching a man fucking another woman indirectly makes you prone to becoming more effeminate and prone to liking cuckoldry. Some would suggest to watch only women masturbating if you absolutely need material to fap, or look at pictures. Then there's this whole thing about how many transgender fags all have anime girl avatar pictures on all their social media, implying that obsessively indulging in cute anime really makes you become more of a irl faggot.

This entire topic is weird, but I will say that there are clear signs of what you are and aren't while watching porn. I got tired of dude's balls and cock being on screen so much so now I watch girls masturbating or other stuff that doesn't involve a guy fucking them. Makes it easier to self-insert and such. Whatever you make of it, one thing is for sure: too much of anything is bad for you.

nofap is a scam to make you vulnerable to women. I fap daily to hentai and it's completely immunized myself to thottery. without fapping you will start to feel like putting up with female bullshit is worth being able to nut finally. don't fall for their tricks. be the master of your own ejaculation.

>faps daily to hentai
>"be your own master"
fuck you, autistic weakling
your ancestors were warriors and pioneers, and this is how you disgrace their legacy?
by masturbating to cartoons alone in your room?
young boys and men shouldn't even be allowed to watch cartoons. they are poison and they create degenerate faggots like you, or worse.

>something happened in my 20s
If you weren't ashamed of it, or rather your reaction to it, you would just say what "it" was. I can only assume that you imagine Jow Forums will make fun of you if you reveal what "it" was and you stereotype us all as insensitive sheltered jerks. My whole family is dead user (inb4 kek) and I had the classic shitty upbringing of violence and drugs in the home since childhood (inb4 kek) and I did not get laid until after high school. Whatever it was that happened to you in your 20s user there's no conceivable way that it could justify you being this blackpilled on women. I'm not trying to antagonize you, I wish you would state what happened, I feel like I'm in a similar boat.

>I can't go shoot big guns with you bro I have to go shopping with my gf
>t. loser who thinks he's in control because he fell for nofap

it's hard for modern scientists to even find a control group that HASN'T been exposed to porn to compare brains with. so crazy how this has snuck into the brains of nearly every person with a computer

Fuck off brah. I like you but I wasn't looking for sympathy - I was just stating a fact.
Perhaps the cosmos will align differently one day, and the stars will gift me the dust of my wishes.

is that your idea of a relationship?
just...shopping?
good lord, you really are fucking lost.
has it occurred to you that some girls are into guns and hiking and home improvement? and guess what. those same girls are absolutely repulsed by men who watch anime. i know nothing i ever say will open your eyes to this.
maybe it's better if you just died alone before reproducing anyways.

just don't start wearing women's underwear when you jerk off, user. that's where the slippery slope towards trannyism begins

>just change your shitty genetics bro

You underestimate how addictive dopamine is. You roam the vast realm of the virtual world yet you are insensitive to this reality.

Mental illness. Schizophrenia to be specific. I'm on antipsychotics, i gained weigh because of the meds, I'm reclusive and paranoid. So, the blackpill on women is just me being realistic and rational. I don't have any market value.

It's just that you started out by accusing me that my advice of getting a prostitute was "admitting defeat" and then proceeded to say that you've "given up on women" so I just wanted to cite the inconsistency or maybe hear more of what you had to say. You seem like a good based leaf.

that's difficult to hear user.
life has dealt you a truly brutal hand.
i learned something a while ago that might help you. this idea that most of the positive emotion you will experience in life, will be experienced in relation to a goal.
drugs, alcohol and masturbation are only ever a fleeting high. even real sex with a woman is fleeting. it's the relationships that make it meaningful at all.
but if that's out of the equation for you, at least for the foreseeable future, i hope you can still find meaning in your goals, whatever artistic, physical, or skill related pursuits you choose.

just try it out for ten days and see how you feel. if you don't feel better and stronger and less anxious, sure, go ahead and beat your dick.

but i bet you'll feel better.

There is no inconsistency or contradiction. I'm sure you disagree, but it's simple.
It's how I and many other guys see the situation. Women don't like us, but the mere prospect of giving in and paying for sex is just awful. It's humiliating. It's defeat.

not my idea retard these are literal excuses friends have made for why they can't hang out or do fun stuff. it's common knowledge that the only control women have over men is access to their hole. why would you willingly give them full control over your dick instead of holding control yourself and reducing their power to zero?

Oof you may need to start a new thread, that seems like a pretty good excuse to retire from society on its face, but what do I know, I'm not you. Whores will always be there that's what they're for. Chin up Otto

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The women are being abused, wheather they know it or not.

I'm effectively retired from society already. Only got my close family left, which I'm eternally thankful for. I'd have killed myself long time ago without them.

You're nice.

this literally won't make any sense to you if you're under like 28-30: if they're busy building meaningful relationships with women they want to start families with, you don't get to act sour about it. if you had a girlfriend, or if you were a better hang you could still have those friends through the more mature parts of life. but no, you want to stay a child. and they know it. the girlfriends know it. so you don't get invited to hang out anymore. bummer dude! have fun with your waifu

Whow, why did my ID change?!

I'm 30 and I'm watching people that used to be fun to be with get turned into slaves of fat bitches. if you think modern women are worth anything let alone building a family with you are being deceived by your out of control hormones.