In a capitalist free-market there are no guaranteed profits. But corporate welfare eliminates this handicap for the well-connected.
Business subsidies that allow politicians to channel economic resources toward their preferred
ends distort investment and trade.
Turning government into an engine of illicit profit encourages what economists call rent-seeking. Special interest triumphs over public interest
These practices end up hurting small businesses by making them less competitive.
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>commondreams
lel. But it's true that corporate welfare is commonly seen as a pox. Anti-trust and bankruptcy laws exist for a good reason.
BULLSHIT!
Brb starting a business. HungLo's Sloppy Joes
>to offset
This is how you know they have no argument
60% of the budget goes to the "poor" (i.e. LAZY PARASITES). Your infographic CANNOT be factual. It is fake. It is bullshit. All the left does is lie.
not allow!
theft
About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies. So, the government spent nearly 50% more on corporate welfare than it did on food stamps and housing assistance in 2006.
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Is any of that money legitimately flowing from the citizen to the corporations though? No. It's made up numbers.
>Cites leftard propaganda site.
FAGGOT, I JUST SHOWED YOU THE 2015 BUDGET. YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT.
Are you so fucking stupid that you don't know how social security works? And medicaid is a direct subsidy to the medical industry. You're actually a fucking moron.
Da maffs in undeniluble
Didnt we send like 90billion to Puerto Rico? And 34 billion to Israel etc.
We pay more money buying friends than we do helping our own people.
This image is so much bullshit I don’t know where to begin.
ALL of these numbers are wrong
> corporate subsidies
Translation: subsidies for "farming corporations" to ensure a sustained foodsource despite fluctuation in the growing seasons.
Sage this cryptic bullshit
>Da maffs in undeniluble
What's even funnier is those numbers are conservative. The institute for economic freedom estimates that 30% of your spending is inflation caused by government regulations written by special interest groups for their own benefit. You people are so dumb you think that you're paying car insurance to a private company, when that private company wouldn't exist without the government mandated insurance program.
>are taxes from citizens
Corporations (people who work, no matter how greedy they are) getting to keep more of their own money rather than having it stolen from them and spent on niggers is not the same as unemployed, self-destructive, violent, dumb, criminal niggers getting free money from people who work.
>farming corporations
Agribusiness isn't a bunch of peasants in their field growing your wheat you stupid fucking canadian.
Yes, if companies believe in free markets, why do they want free subsidies?
My version socialism is better than YOUR version of socialism! Take that! - every socialist since the 18th fucking century, every day, all day
>why do they want free subsidies?
Most subsidies aren't even taken through tax.
Mandated car insurance is a subsidy to Warren Buffet (owner of GEICO).
Building codes are a subsidy to engineers, architects, and lumber interests.
Medical license regulation is a direct subsidy to doctors and hospitals.
Patents are a subsidy to drug companies and large software companies.
When you pay your car insurance, just remember that that is a tax where the government just left out the middle man.
Doesn't matter chucklefuck. Farming subsidies are necessary. If key foodstuffs are unable to sustain themselves for a season it leaves you vulnerable to predatory foreign price manipulation on an inelastic commodity. It's literally a national security issue and every country does it.
>Question: How much would you pay for food if you don't have any
>Answer:Everything
*elastic commodity
Its true. Corporate welfare and subsidies is bullshit. 90% of our debt goes to it.
How about subsidies for a variety of plants, not fucking corn so we don't get diabetes from high fructose corn syrup?
Bump of agreement
>Farming subsidies are necessary
You're a literal fucking retard. Farming subsidies are there so farmers who were forced to go into massive debt can pay it back to bankers. You are literally the perfect example of a stupid fucking canadian.
So just abolish taxes then
>corporate tax loopholes
I'm a CPA working in corporate tax and I hate that fucking term. I'm all for raising corporate taxes, but calling things loopholes makes you sound retarded.
For anyone who doesn't know. In the 50's the US embarked on a agricultural "reform" process that produced policies that made it impossible for small farmers to compete in the ag industry. This policy was directed by companies like Monsanto and Caterpillar. Additionally, farmers were essentially forced by the government into programs where they had to go into debt in order to purchase farm equipment, seeds, fertilizer, and pest control.
This is an explicit policy, it's an historical fact if you want to research it.
That's just moronic. The site considers farm subsidies and all money paid to min wage workers (because they should really be paid 15/hr) as corporate subsidies.
>farm subsidies
Farm subsidies are corporate subsidies to Monsanto, Caterpillar, and Archer Daniels. It's a literal fact.
That's just dumb and you should feel dumb.
That's you pulling shit of your ass and calling it gold. But if that's what you want, I'm willing to work with you. Let's get rid of it and watch poor people starve.
>(((insurance companies)))
>That's just dumb and you should feel dumb.
It's a literal historical fact you fucking idiot. Holy shit. Do the words "Go big or go home" mean anything to you? Your stupidity is fucking impressive.
You paid taxes. These corporations didn't: publicintegrity.org
Large companies were “able to zero out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income,” according to an ITEP report. “Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes, as the new 21 percent corporate tax rate requires, these companies enjoyed a net corporate tax rebate of $4.3 billion, blowing a $20.7 billion hole in the federal budget last year.”
Why don't you try working for yourself if the system is rigged in favor of corporations?
>Why don't you try working for yourself if the system is rigged in favor of corporations?
Corporate tax is a bugaboo, because as soon as that money leaves the corporate account as a salary the money is taxed. If people really wanted to tax corporations they would ironically start repealing all the regulations and subsidies that those corporations benefit from.
In other words, if you make the government smaller, the corporations would have less power, because most taxes come in the form of regulation, building code, and mandated insurance which are paid directly to private sector.
Sure. I'm all for hemming in the government. But what I'm saying is that if you form your own small corporation then you get all kinds of tax breaks. I think it would be more educational to explain how to exploit the system then to finger-point at some boogeyman of the "big corporation" screwing you over.
>form your own small corporation then you get all kinds of tax breaks
Ya, this is true, but it requires a lot of work and you have to be careful not to comingle funds.
I never learned how to do that in school. So if you want to fight the system, then the way to do that is to remove the information arbitrage that allows one class of people to exploit the system at the expense of the basically niggers who don't even know they're being exploited. Be the modern-day hacker.
working in a grocery store made me so cynical about welfare. so many people with foodstamps buying so much crap
>then the way to do that is to remove the information arbitrage
Ah, if you want to talk about information arbitrage. What is a university professor but a person whose whole career is based on information arbitrage.
Of course, there are laws in each state mandating a degree from an accredited university for practicing law, medicine, engineering, architecture. Each one of these professions is rent seeking off of government mandated information arbitrage.
>corporations pay 0 taxes
>payroll taxes, property taxes, sales tax, and literally every other tax corporations always pay doesnt exist
okay faggot
I like grocery store workers. They have great stories, and enjoy having a few moments to vent and laugh with a stranger.
>so many people with foodstamps buying so much crap
I'm much more concerned about the fat, piece of shit biology professor who makes 100 grand a year because they force future doctors to take his accredited class.
My personal opinion is that most university professors are dumb as a box of rocks and are only there because they have tenure and keep the money flowing. I'm not worried about them.
They're even pushing online courses and whatever else. The internet makes it a ripe time break the information stranglehold. What if there were infographics about how to start your own corporation?
But that's not even true. Do these faggots even have paystubs? Social Security takes a fucking huge dip into every paycheck.
>The internet makes it a ripe time break the information stranglehold.
I have a hypothesis that a lot of the politically correct culture we're experiencing right now is a result of panic in the knowledge/priest class because the internet and AI are a threat to their 10,000 year stranglehold on the products of civilization.
It is all behind schedule, and they are facing a bit of a generational shift. But as long as the priest class continues to get promoted up through the ranks, living like princelets in their fortresses, then it doesn't do anything to them to retire off into boomer paradise while the invaders they trained swarm in.
Nice try. You’re budget is incomplete by hiding corporate welfare. We cannot continue to allow our nation’s wealthiest corporations to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. These companies stash hundreds of billions of dollars in overseas tax havens while receiving hundreds of billions in government subsidies, tax breaks and from exploiting tax loopholes.
Bullshit. Payroll taxes hold up the Ponzi scheme called Social Security
>shift. But as long as the priest class continues to get promoted up through the ranks, living like princelets in their fortresses
I used to work as a Realtor, so I had to join the National Association in order to purchase access to the MLS, which is how Realtors lookup which houses are for sale. Everyone knows that the only reason you become a realtor is because they have a monopoly on the MLS, but they mandated "education" and that education mostly consisted of them telling you how necessary the NAR was because they taught their agents ethics, and fair housing practices, and other politically correct garbage.
Political correctness is the a thing an organization produces when it feels threatened from a disruptive technology.
You're spot on about the whole guild thing. I've worked odd jobs including as a go-between in real estate and property management, and it's amazing what you can get done for a fraction of the cost on the gray market. It's such a fucking racket to play by all the rules only to have the system fuck you over.
The black market will eventually take over, as it always has throughout recorded history. I'd rather stick with the gray market as a compromise. It's funny when the people in ivory towers tell you how great it is that they can access the gray market. They don't include that in their models.
I think saving jobs by giving money to corporations that pay more taxes then shit skins is more important than feeding shit skins who are a tax negative
wrong. over half of all gov spending is on welfare
>and it's amazing what you can get done for a fraction of the cost on the gray market
Most people are too afraid to take these kinds of risks, because they believe they don't have any consumer protection if something goes wrong. What they don't realize is that consumer protection is a spook, something that doesn't actually exist. If you think consumer protection exists, start reading labels on the back of chemical products at the local grocery store.
>over half of all gov spending is on welfare
Social security isn't welfare. It's deferred income.
We should do neither
(((Corporate Welfare)))
>Social security isn't welfare. It's deferred income.
wrong. it's a ponzi scheme that relies on infinite growth. the SS system is in debt and unsustainable and the gov is keeping it alive for the boomer niggers, and it will collapse before the people paying into it now reap the benefits. so it is in effect welfare.
Everything comes with risks. I'd rather work with a guy I know who does honest work and isn't going to stiff me if it turns out there's something more wrong than we thought. I'd rather not have to blow time, money, and effort in court over some kind of bullshit. What a waste.
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>the SS system is in debt and unsustainable
No, SS was fine until congress raided it to pay for wars for Israel. In any case, those people paid into the system expecting to get money out. That's the exact opposite of welfare where you don't pay in at all and get something right away.
I thought it was like a 401(k) so that instead of a pension, you could avoid taxes now so that you could pay even higher taxes when you try to use it, all so that the stock market Jews can gamble with your earnings.
>stock market Jews can gamble with your earnings.
Probably, I actually don't know what or where they were supposed to stick those funds. Not sure I even care as I never expect to get paid a cent from SS.
I mean, you're not wrong
It's a scam to tie your end of life into whether or not the stock market casino is going up up up. You know, so the middle men can use your capital to try to make free profit off of gambling. en.wikipedia.org
At least with a pension or so-so security you're allegedly guaranteed a free ride. Now they have to peddle UBI because the whole ponzi scheme is coming apart and they need more losers to prop it up.
You're correct, but claiming that the american taxpayer has to pay $2831 to offset tax havens and loopholes is a blatant lie. Also, don't forget that the main reason corporate subsidies exist is because leftists love to complain about muh jobs.
Fake and gay. Stop making excuses for parasites
What’s the solution?
is this a manlet joke?
This chart is bogus because it's hiding corporate welfare. Our nation’s wealthiest corporations avoid paying their fair share of taxes. These companies stash hundreds of billions of dollars in overseas tax havens while receiving hundreds of billions in government subsidies, tax breaks and from exploiting tax loopholes.
>60% of the budget goes to the "poor" (i.e. LAZY PARASITES).
37 year old boomer here. If you had a job you'd know how this Social Security thing actually works.
I've been paying for Social Security and Medicare directly from my paycheck for 20 years. You are mislabeling retirees as "lazy" When I retire and collect it, I will be getting my investment back. There's nothing parasitic about this.
Kill the Poor
Cut spending. Nobody ever wants to talk about it.
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Your investment hardly appreciates. The rate of growth is like 2% annually with inflation. Social Security is not parasitism on the part of individuals, but parasitism on the part of the government, which ensnares innocents into some sort of slavery-themed ponzi scheme for no crime whatsoever, ultimately to render them more dependent on itself.
>he doesnt know social security will reach unfunded status in 2030...
homie, we ain't seeing a dime of social security
But this is a lie.
Welfare in the U.S. is $1,000,000,000,000 a year.
Yes, One Trillion dollars a year.
BUT THOSE BANKS ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL! WE CAN'T LET THEM COLLAPSE!
> parasitism on the part of the government, which ensnares innocents into some sort of slavery-themed ponzi scheme for no crime whatsoever
Wow, you get the prize for best conspiracy theory today!
>Yes, One Trillion dollars a year.
You should say $100 trillion. It won't be any less false, but it will seem a lot more dramatic.
>social security will reach unfunded status in 2030
Wall Street has been lobbying for decades to deceptively release this pot of money into their mob casino.
chron.com
Why must you LIE like this?
Social security is a game that functions on the assumption that half of the participants will not live to collect it. As the lifespan increases social security becomes ineffective at providing a return competitive with market rates.
Who cares about that. You can employ all the illegals you want, but the rest of them have to have their wages garnished to fund the scam.
lol goyims
I want to pay none of it. End corporate taxes. End income taxes. End welfare.
Pay your own way. Work or die hungry.
farm subsidies is in place because it's part of our national security, if something happened to the food supply every city in this country would be chimping out and killing all the white liberals for their stuff
subsidized industry helps the economy grow, also the average tax payers money going to leaches and niggers does nothing. also the second ones are non sense if a rich person doesn't pay their taxes the gov doesn't just swoop and take all your money and once again those tax dollars just go to programs and hand outs for the must pathetic members of society and invaders
Seething
I find this very hard to believe. The majority of American debt comes from welfare programs. Not military spending, not "offsetting corporate tax loopholes" that's insane. That's like saying "well Amazon paid no taxes, so that Trillion dollars will come from families."
I don't believe this jpg for a second.
Farm subsidies are basicy food aid to Africa and Asia. If we end them, we will kill a third of their populations.
I'm on board
You do realize that your "corporate welfare" includes paying big oil for things like strategic reserves, farm subsidies and programs to help the poor with heating oil?
Also how much of my money goes to people with a negative effective tax rate?
some are worse than that
some farmers get money to not grow crops
tru but money was bullshit since someone found gold and its a popul control scheme and disgenics program so dont expect this to change minds until you address those points too
Honestly, I shouldn't have to help corporations OR the poor. Fuck 'em all, nobody helps me, so every motherfucker for themselves now.
