Who classifies as white? Who would live in this "ethnostate?" What would the culture be? The holidays? Some godforsaken hodgepodge of French, German, Anglo-Saxon, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Greek, Italian, and Spanish culture? Do Jews get to live there? What about Slavs? They're pale but they're Eastern in culture. Meds are darker but they literally created Western culture.
Le ethnostate is a literal amerimutt meme and you rarely see it given by anyone with an actual sense of cultural heritage, always fucking Americans and Brits. Europeans are not the same.
Were you dropped on your head as a child, Muhammad?
Nathaniel Torres
>Who classifies as white? I don't know, maybe ask a college admission board.
Everyone seems to know who's white when you need to discriminate against them.
Parker Rodriguez
>Some godforsaken hodgepodge of French, German, Anglo-Saxon, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Greek, Italian, and Spanish culture? Do Jews get to live there?
Why would that be bad? Whites of different ethnicities get along fine.
Kayden Jenkins
An ethno state is just an abstract goal or ideal framework to strive for maybe, possibly, someday in the far far future. Getting bogged down in the details is completely irrelevant and a waste of time and energy.
There are so many more pressing issues that need to be addressed before such a thing can even be thought about seriously. Getting upset about it is just stupid.
However >what is white You know what white is, nigger
Aaron Rodriguez
Were for ethnostates based on existing countries, communist antifas are for AN ethnostate, singular. Pic related.
Line everyone up in front of me and I will tell you.
Xavier Reed
I guess the government, they always seem to know who is white.
Hunter Sullivan
>Who classifies as white? Laurence Fishburne or darker >Who would live in this "ethnostate? White people, duh >What would the culture be? The holidays? Some godforsaken hodgepodge of French, German, Anglo-Saxon, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Greek, Italian, and Spanish culture? Sooo America? >Do Jews get to live there? Yes but only if they accept high ranking government or corporate positions. >What about Slavs? They're pale but they're Eastern in culture. Id reckon not the ones who look like literal mongols. >Western culture. Wasn't even a concept until long after the fall into irrelevancy of all the south europe shitholes.
Michael Adams
>what culture?
hotdogs, bottled water, and white bread
David Russell
>its afraid
Oliver White
I’d be okay with a place that just prioritised white migrants over literal niggers.
Levi Nguyen
Of course it is. Spencer is either a glowie or a useful idiot leading wignats to a dead end while doing interviews on CNN.
Jaxon Gray
>Laurence Fishburne >interesting fact His daughter did porn.
Isaac Gomez
>haha I don’t know who is a white person until they apply for college and I see their SATs or I need to accuse somebody of having white privilege haha
Elijah Nguyen
>Whites of different ethnicity get along fine Historically, there are fewer statements as wrong as this.
Oh, so Jews are white too? What about Hispanics, they're white in the census
>You know what white is, nigger I know what the general IDEA of white is, yes. But to pretend t doesn't MATTER to be very specific when you tout an entire ideology on the premise of "whiteness" is fucking stupid. Ignoring centuries of history, culture and war is fucking stupid.
Answer me this: Are Jews white? And if not, can you give any actual reason as to why they aren't? Because according to epic hwite guy Jared Taylor they are white.
Except it's not, recorded history of states the norm are ethnostates. you faggots have no problem identifying White when you want to attack but magically become clueless when referred to otherwise.
Evan Hernandez
Do Blueish greenish eyes count?
Xavier Roberts
Question to americans. If you were offered to live in white ethnostate of texas, would you agree? It is big enough for every person in the world to live in. It has a coast. It has decent weather. You would be given 1/50 of us money + money for your property in other states.
Parker Perry
It's very easy. Every argument will always boil down to:
white: me not white: someone I want to feel better than
That's every answer boiled down.
Nathaniel Perry
The way Spencer talks its like Israel for white people. I don't care about living with burgers, poolish and russians. All I want is to live with my Québécois brothers and some white immigrants who speak french or are willing to learn. Some asians and christian arabs are ok too.
People who are dumb enough to not understand the difference between brown and blueish green are also excluded.
Noah Diaz
The USA was founded, essentially, as a white ethnostate. And that ended up making us one of the best places in the world. And now, we slide down a brown, muddy slope into trash.
Reminder: this is a divide and conquer thread designed to generate inviting between whites.
In the US (with Canada, Australia etc. too) maybe a 1/8 rule or 1/16 rule - and no Sub-Saharan at all.
Adam Mitchell
No they don't.
Thomas Howard
>jews no.
>slavs yes!
Jason Robinson
>le Back to plebbit you go
Jaxson Gray
Whites who support different football teams try and kill each other most weekends
Jaxon Collins
No. All of this land is ours.
Matthew Miller
I'll agree with you when Israel starts taking in Muslim rapeugees.
Benjamin Wood
It seems like you're wrong.
Jayden Brooks
>Some godforsaken hodgepodge of French, German, Anglo-Saxon, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Greek, Italian, and Spanish culture?
so you are against a hodgepodge of European ethnicities and cultures but are all for a multicultural, multiracial, multiethnic population from every continent? If the former is a "hodgepodge" the latter must be a chaotic disaster.
Christian Wilson
>larping about a white ethnostate while international jewry still exists
they would never allow it to come to fruition, and as such it is pointless to discuss, atleast as anything more than a vague idea
Tyler Robinson
>the narcissism of small differences That's fine. However, the rest of the world wants to disenfranchise and ultimately destroy whites. Having an ethnostate is the only solution for whites to have right to self determination.
Evan Jones
Not just that. they need to take in people from the congo and millions of south east asians. I mean come on bro, how cant they have good economics unless they have a completely deracinated population.
Xavier Long
You people can't even fucking agree on the significance of eye color to this day, don't fucking try to play games.
You STILL haven't answered the question. Accuse me of being left wing all you want but I'm absolutely correct, Irish people are not British and we don't want to merge with Brits. We don't look the same, we have different cultures, different values, different religion, and a tumultuous history.
If you are more dedicated to muttism than the things that actually made Europe significant, I don't know what to tell you
Who the fuck said I was for that? I believe cultures and ethnicity are linked and they should exist in the places they function and are most suited to be in heritage based on the last few centuries.
I will not be in the US much longer so I don't really care much about the idea of white merger in the US, but in Europe? No way.
>The USA was founded, essentially, as a white ethnostate
It was Anglo-Saxon and had conflict with the Spanish and the French. It is still majority white and its biggest demographic change has been an influx of Hispanics, aka the invasion of the country that it's fought since the 1800s and what happens when you have no cultural identity.
We had a white ethnostate. It doesn't seem to work out very well.
Joshua Rodriguez
You're definitely right lol. Ethnic nationalism in regards to upholding a specific ethnicity and it's attached culture makes perfect sense. That is what pretty much every old world country is. However, this idea that many American whites try to push of a "white" ethnostate makes zero fucking sense. "White" is far too vague, what counts as white, what fucking culture what it be tied to, what makes "whites" inherently connected. Inb4 >Muh historical evropa brethren Europe for most of it's history saw numerous different states battle each other almost non stop. The idea of a collective history or culture in Europe until mixed American whites came along didn't exist. >White all have high IQ unlike niggers By this standard the ethnostate should have no problem accepting Asians who assimilate into the culture, but no, only white eyed whites are allowed, it's never specified why without resorting to the two retarded justifications above.
Tldr: A "White" ethnostate is retarded, white is not a culture or an ethnicity.
Matthew Jones
Ironic that you'd use a picture of this glownigger when even he could answer these questions, Sargon.
Ethnonationalism is the way to go for Europe, however, creating one or multiple "white" (European or Aryan would be a better term imo) in America would be a great addition. Burgers are very different from Europeans culture-wise, but an American ethnostate could be great if it would be like the US was under its white-only-immigration policy
Jordan Cruz
*Blue eyed
Camden Hughes
if you are not european you are not white and therefore not a real american
america was an ethnostate prior to 1960
Wyatt Lee
You are making the assumption that it's only whites deciding who is white and who isn't. I can give you a hint, they know who is white and who isn't. They find whites intolerable, but will not let them separate.
Dylan Campbell
Shut up, rabbi. Everyone seems to know what the fuck white is when it comes to diversity quotas. Pathetic pilpul attempt.
Nathaniel Torres
>We had a white ethnostate. It doesn't seem to work out very well. ????????
I'll agree with him with muslims start taking in rapeugees.
Evan Sullivan
It is very easy to define who is white, there are DNA tests.
But that's not the point, you can see just by looking at whites coming into the ethnic state.
In margins of error, if any nonwhite that looks white enters the ethnic state will not be a problem because nothing better than a minority is mistaken for white, that is to say that whites are saved because minorities will be more like whites. .
Luis Stewart
Fucking based. Nordist niggers will never recover.
Leo Bailey
Kill yourself, faggot OP. Leave. You're too stupid and bigoted to understand. Germanics and Celtics are white, maybe Mediterraneans, Slavs, and Finno urgics too, but people are typically referring to Germanics and Celtics. Jews aren't white in any sense of the word other than maybe skin colour. All Jews should die.
Jace Rogers
seriously, even I can understand it here.
There is already a cultural sense of identifying whites in American culture, the ethnic state is not about pan-Europeanism of European union.
They will not call Russians or Poles to belong to the new country but it is who belongs to the preconceived identity of being white in America.
it's very simple.
Why do critics struggle with this idea? I don't see any, the "problem" will be from the country itself and not your "problem".
Jace Rodriguez
I hate Nordcucks more than beaners
John Brown
>significance of eye color That's a meme, retard. The reality is we can measure ethnicity within the wider European population, and so must come from both a racial and cultural aspect. The idea that you can deconstruct an argument is "post-modernist", as it goes. Deracinating and deconstructing who groups of people is fucking satanic.
Matthew Foster
>maybe Mediterraneans, Slavs, and Finno urgics too, but people are typically referring to Germanics and Celtics Fuck you kike
Tyler Rodriguez
>so Jews are white too No >And if not, can you give any actual reason as to why they aren't? Genetically distinct Visually distinct Historically distinct Religiously distinct Most of them act in a way antithetical to European descend people at any chance they get >Because according to epic hwite guy Jared Taylor they are white Obviously does that because he wants to be muh respectabull conserbadive. The media targets him for everything else, one less thing he has to deal with. Anyone with half a brain that looks into his stuff knows about the levantine chicken swingers >Hispanics, they're white in the census The census is used to pad the numbers, artificially making "white" crime higher than it is in reality and also having the effect of making whites think they are a higher % of the population than they are in reality.
It doesn't matter who decides what is white. The concept of "white" has no backing as a cultural or political concept. Rather, it is nothing but a vague genetic cluster. It's funny that no one in this thread wants to address the points I raised. Looks like American whites can't recover from the facts.
Andrew Walker
You read what I wrote bitch. No Italian in America ever gets diversity points.
Luke Baker
You forgot the best part: >In this white ethnostate, who will be janitors? Who will pick berries for 5 Euro/hour? Who will clean the sewers? Who will sweep the streets?
Jackson Moore
americans with 100% european blood is still not white, spiritually speaking, they are the true rootless raceless cultureless amerimutt jew slaves.
Wyatt Brown
Both sets of grandparents German, I’m 6”2” with green eyes, I qualify as white.
Chase Rogers
>Jews are white too? What about Hispanics, they're white in the census He said college admissions you nigger.
What does your height have to do with race? What does your eyecolor have to do with race? There are Pashtuns with green eyes.
Jordan Clark
I don’t want monkeys in the street selling crack etc I don’t want to see terror victims crying on live tv I don’t want to see another fucking news report where the weak scum leaders call it part in parcel and take the Mickey out of a serious short sighted cluster fuck, you make society weak and afraid despite what anyone says to be true, and these are ducking people in there country of birth with generations of ancestors scum!$! The cops get attacked, the citizens are under fire from every angle be it jobs, waiting room at hospitals, drug related gang issues, religion crossover mosques being erected in a Christian homeland! MDK! Refugees who hire trucks run over innocent people and it’s like hey let’s not route out the cause or except we made an era let’s keep it going and hope for the best! That’s what I call a complete an utter failure from the political establishment!
Daniel Nguyen
I mean Northern Italians are okay because they are Germanic and Celtic but Southern Italians and Spaniards have African heritage from the moor invasion and some of them can even get sickle cell anemia, also a lot of them have nigger-tier IQs.
Hunter Perez
>shitskin hand; fatty hand, most likely wetback's HEHEHEHEHE
Jace Johnson
No one disagrees on who is White. We almost all agree that there are 7 races. White, Jew, Asian, Native/Pacific Islanders, Hispanic, Black, Australian Aboriginal
Adam Rogers
Except for the world wars. And all the major wars before that. inb4 "whites would never fight each other, the jew tricked them!"
I’m sorry did I give you the impression I wanted to debate you about my ethnicity? I can’t even identify your flag so how relevant do you think your opinion is to me? (It’s a rhetorical question)
Leo Sanchez
No Americans, no niggers, no arabs. Japs can take pictures. Eat shit.
Luke Harris
What about rednecks? White trash? What about white pedophiles? What about white con artists? White "white collar crime"? What about white rapists? What about white degenerate women?
Parker White
>The idea of a "White ethnostate" is fucking retarded 4u
Isaiah Collins
Your lack of education is more telling than your pathetic deflection.
David Harris
Respond to you fucking pussies
Liam Martin
>lack of education No no junior, it’s lack of fucks given for eurotrash countries.
Jordan Gray
Richard Spencer will give us all the culture we need. Also we will LARP as Greek and Romans, ignoring the fact that the idea of a pan-European white race is just 400 years old.
>fucks given >calls others junior Just go to sleep zoomer.
Dylan Jenkins
All caucasoids imo. Even Shitskin meds.
We need a pan-caucasian movement.
Arabs and Germanica were part of the same tribes continuously, like the Alans and such.
Lincoln Murphy
Honesty, as long as we remove spics and muslims and stop taking in new black arrivals who aren’t descendants of slaves, I’d call it a success and move on.
Jackson Bailey
It doesn't even matter because half the whites are temperamentally left leaning anyway and would be pro immigration and all that normal stuff. This is the conclusion that Ryan came to on the alt hype (now People's Veto) channel. That you'd want non whites who were allies onboard and you'd want whites who were traitors gone, that is to say it wouldn't be white or an ethnostate, and that what traits you want are first world traits and not necessarily white phenotypes.
White simply don't bloc up like the white nationalists think they do. Peterson's work on personality temperament and political belief is a good place to start with that, and white nationalists have no plan about what they'd do with the 50% of whites who basically are some form of left leaning pro immigration sentiment.
Ian Sanders
Well I invite you, fren
It's very simple, golem: no niggers are welfared, no jew media is subsidized. The details will be worked out as needed.