Why do you hate communism?

Why do you hate communism?

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Because it gives power to few people, and those people do horrible shit with their new power, well because they are humans.

I'm a capitalist. If things change to communism I'll lose all that I have.

because their new creed is class warfare against white men. and i happen to be one.

Not a bugperson I have a soul unlike commies cock suckers.

Hunger mostly.

Wow that sounds just like any other modern government.

Because you all deserve to die!

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Because I'm extemely rich.

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Nope, americans can do shit to their government that any communist state citizens would never have the chance to. Like owning guns. Like investing in companies the government doesnt like i can go on and on...

They killed the tsar

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That’s totalitarianism moron, Communism is a classless and stateless society where the needs of the people are met. The proletariat masses represent the great majority in control under Communism, not the oppressive works of fiction moved forward by the Soviet Union.

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for ruined third Reich and holodomor

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Good you sound like a landowner

>Because it gives power to few people -

That's not communism dumby.

No food, everybody dies

They destroyed my country.

In true communism, everybody is equal because they're all dead of starvation.

nobody cares what communism is if you can't pull it off

True communism is a fairy tale for the socialist state and capitalist failures to eventually become. A stateless, moneyless, classless society, where government is null.

You think this a game chump, hierarchical society embellishes the practice of chaos. Peace and equality are only possible through a mechanism that liberates wagecucks from their chains. Wake up.

It is more of a philosophy than anything else.

well that's not in itself wrong but it'd be hard to be a communist when it has lead to nothing but bloody dictatorships by mongs like mao and stalin

if that wasn't communism then when is it ever going to work

It’s attainable, the question is can you live in a society where the needs of others outweigh your greed as a flawed human being?

because it is an outdated ideology and a pipe dream. don't get me wrong. capitalism is outdated too. the utopian ideal of communism was unable to fix the inherent greedy, non altruist component of the primal human behaviour. any system that is not based on the root causes of theses human flaws is nothing more than a bandaid. that is, communism may work once these issues are fixed through spiritual teachings and any entreprise that would drive ignorance away from the masses. but then another system would probably be more suited than communism. you have to address the current world situation too. I bet communism is not the good medicine based on the current state of the world. neither capitalism is.

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Because the mental contortions needed to believe in the idiocy of Communism produces a warped, mendacious and dangerous person.

Being a Communist should be a capital offense.

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because they killed millions russian

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>Peace and equality
contradiction. people are not equal and if you try to make them, peace will not be the result. but you're too dumb and i'm just wasting my time...

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My capitalist pig government that floods my country with shitskins told me to hate communists.

they don't understand dialectical materialism:

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>if that wasn't communism then when is it ever going to work
It’s attainable, the question is can you live in a society where the needs of others outweigh your greed as a flawed human being?

This here is one of the fundamental misconceptions of communism. That it needs to make sense and somehow 'work'. The man who drove the idea of communism didn't even know how it would work or how it could be achieved, Marx.
You have to remember, his ideas of this society came from the communes of Europe where people did live in a classless community.

The point of communism is prop up the working class to keep the capitalists in check. Labor before capital. It's a way of thinking that within capitalism will be it's demise. I think to be honest it's a doom porn philosophy, people wanting capitalism to fail so it can be rebuilt in favor of the working class.

This is the only positive thing they did.

A communistic system is just a meat grinder for people. It always ends up with trillions of dead bodies.

Because just like NEETs it never worked

It's ok for the government to tell you what to do but when I tell you what to do, you tell me to fuck off?! You sound stupid. You little bitch.

fuck off cigan

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Oh gee calm down there is no need for this racism.

that is to mean that the ideal by the book communism version that was never really tested will never work because it will be flawed once implemented in the current state of humanity. the communist version pushed by the ptb. is a thousand times worse. because it is not communism from its inception. it s only the other side of the same coin pushed by the ptb. and yet you are still stuck in that hegelian dialectic capitalism vs communism. another less known ism thread would be more than welcome. but you need a brain to father a nice ism... easier to chew and to chew on isms already cooked for you by the elite, right ?

the promises of communism are a pack of Jewish lies told in the pursuit of totalitarian power

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Communism is neo-feudalism.

Capitalism is the path to communism.

Have to study so here I am debating communism.

As an ideology communism or socialism doesn't seem bad, in fact it seems like a logical choice where people are treated as equals, also the state controls the means of production meaning we can create as much as we need, so we do not waste too much. There is no elite, people kind of sustain themselves, seems like some kind of functioning anarchy. That is when you have it on paper, or as I said when you look at it ideologically.
But when you start thinking about it, it is impossible to implement. How in the world will you create a civilization without hierarchy? It is impossible. There will always be stronger people, smarter people, lazy people etc. Some people will excel at something making them above their peers.
Let us put that into a scenario. You Enrike are a onions filled faggot working in the field, per day you are able to plow 50m2, your woman strength and poor genetics doesn't allow you to plow more, also you are 1.65 with 60 kilos, so you don't require that much food for maintenance. But what is that, here comes Chadnandez. Genetical magnum opus, everything the biology intended for a human being. Chad is plowing fcking 500m2 of field per day. At the end there comes the state and pays you or whatever kind of communism you had in mind, or lets say the state gives you food. You and Chadnandez get the same amount of food even though he is 10 times more efficient than you are, and his 2m 100kg body needs 40% more food than you do.
Chad decides it makes no sense to farm as efficently so he does 50m2 in half an hour and is plowing bitches the rest of the day.
Because there is no competition, everyone does their minimum since everyone gets paid the same. Your whole country goes hungry, you don't even have shoes.

Communists love to manipulate your thinking, they'll take control of public education and brainwash children for their own sake.
They are scum
When a war starts, I will gladly be their enemy.

sometimes there are crossroads with many intersections. being on a path does not mean it's the right one.

Good god why are all you brazilians sounding the same recently?

And you say communists are brain washing people...

>why do you hate violent leftoids taking over your life, crashing the government, atarving people and creating ieological based prisons

Why do you hate God?

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carbon monoxide poisoning maybe ?

You need a state to implement Socialist policies and then the state is supposed to magically disappear and everyone is going to magically get along despite the fact that there would be no laws. Communism is basically Anarchy dumbass

Good, I hope you enjoy these bullets when the war begins.

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Feudalism is closer to Imperialism and even Monarchism than it is to Socialism

>phonefag
>Commie
How much did that iPhone cost

Why has this glorious society never been achieved yet? Stop being a retard for a few minutes, and admit that communism is just carrot on a stick to attract useful idiots, and to keep people in line, a totalitarian nation is the end goal.

s a g e

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>(((comunists)))
>human

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Made by jews.
Anti christian.

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The country is ruled by a glorious leader/ king, and his son occasionally is given control (North Korea) the people/peasants don’t own anything, and are nothing more than serfs or slaves, the nobels/party elite own pretty much everything, and their children are almost guaranteed to be party elite as well. People aren’t allowed to leave, because they are property of the state, people can placed or forced into towns, and cities like cattle.

It sounds very similar to feudalism.

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Because it doesn't work

Your people were peasants before Communism, since the wall has fallen I guess you have to go back to class, so you can know your bottom-feeding place. Pleb

eat shit and kys

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kill yourself

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The governments willingness to slaughter millions for simply not agreeing. The only good commie is a dead commie.

Show us where the lenin touched you...

CO2

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on a side note. one of the biggest flaw of utopian communism is that it's religion is science. capitalism is no different but it wont admit it. the faith that all your system shortcomings will be solved in the future by science and its product, technological and ideological progress by thinkers that adhere to this framework is the main reason that both these systems are suboptimal except for those in power. for a good measure those in power control religion too in case if we to seek solutions outside of the science and technology framework by perpetuating religious dogma and doctrine for the lowest common denominator. on the other hand philosophy, ethics that do not adhere to the mainstream ethos are dangerous and so they are not promoted at all in media and education.

if real then absolute genius

God forbid anyone take the money they earned from working and make a lasting investment with it...

There is no form of governance in a Communist society whereas Feudalistic societies was ruled by a Daimyo. In a Feudalistic society the people pay a small tax, whether it be currency or goods, and in return they are granted protection from warring Daimyos looking to increase their land. Add that to the fact that you're basically free to pick your own jobs and it's nothing like Communism

Based. Commies deserve nothing but excruciating deaths

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Yes yet you still need an organ to distribute goods and services, ie. manage the means of production. Even if this organ is ruled by democratically elected people you have a politically organized elite. What's to say these don't assume control and use their power unfairly?

Communism is a good idea but it fails to address the inevitability of centralization of power. Marx misinterpreted Hegel's dialectic - it's never fully resolved, it only takes on a different form. These consecutive 'forms' can be said to approach an ideal (egalitarian society where full individuation is available to everyone) but they will never achieve it.

Got 100 million reasons why

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Because it's based on a gross oversimplification of society and human nature, which is why it almost invariably becomes totalitarian and results in a large number of people dying.

>Marx misinterpreted Hegel's dialectic - it's never fully resolved, it only takes on a different form. These consecutive 'forms' can be said to approach an ideal (egalitarian society where full individuation is available to everyone) but they will never achieve it.

Uhh that's exactly what Marx was talking about that communism isn't something that is fully achieved it's something that is consistently becoming.

That is exactly what Hegelian dialectics are, and was basically Hegels equation just instead of what Marx was telling, Hegel was telling us how mind and spirit form, Marx was telling us the material sense of this philosophy.
Marx was a moral critic of capitalism, and used the dialectic principles to ensure that the labor always came before the capital and was owed it's profits. Meaning the bourgeois could not exploit the working class.
Marx theorized that capitalism will rise, and fall, continuously until one day it will eventually 'level' out to a point where the bourgeois or capitalists don't come out on top always or manipulate the markets for max profits.

This, in a nutshell, this.

Because we've seen what it did to eastern europe, china, north korea, cuba, venecuella etc.

If it neither makes sense nor works why would we even entertain it as a concept?

Because they literally tools of the very financial (((elite))) they claim to appose.

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>Why do you hate communism?
It's Jewish and anti-White.

Based ruski.

Because communism was basically an afterthought for Marx. His main publishing's and ideas were radical socialist ideas against the current economic systems at the time.

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based brit

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Because commies will never get their utopia or paradise on Earth. It is a fantasy. In the process of attempting “true communism” they will turn the world into a mix of totalitarian states and Syria like civil/tribal wars. Hell on Earth.

Why do you want to overthrow the “system” that is lifting mankind out of poverty like never before?

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Same thing Applies to Fascism