Anybody here actually was “deradicalized” by her?
I watched several of her videos on subjects and none of them presented some fallacy or tactics that made me disenchanted with the right.
All of it felt shallow or even when it were valid criticisms it didn’t deconstruct the larger point.
Honestly watching her made me even more disgusted by the left with this being their idol,
She’s more palatable than the rest of breadtube but she’s still just as trash.
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it’s just a big turd wrapped up in pretentious wording, that’s why
I test myself by watching him. I don’t become a leftist.
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None of these (((deradicalization))) methods are going to work on enough people to matter because we aren't radicalized.
They're just using the same "techniques" they used when teaching us lies in school so only the useful idiots among us will fall for it. The rest of us are wise to their tricks, or don't care. the handful that have gone radical all had weird connections to groups tied to elites. e.g MK Ultra victims.
how could a mentally ill crossdresser ever "convert" anyone to anything other than faggotry
Still using she for that cross-dressing faggot. Hah! I bet you love shemale cock too.
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i spend a lot of time observing leftist communities and i feel like i'm living in a bizarro world when i see them talk about how amazing contra's "in depth" videos are and how he's "deradicalizing" people when no normal person let alone a "far rightest" is gonna do anything but laugh at how fucking weird and disgusting he looks.
also contra's videos aren't in depth. he just tells empty stories that someone like alt hype can debunk with a few data sets.
The only people to ever push me more towards the left (but not all the way) are jimmy dore and kulinski.
its all that academic noise making she does that is a big turn off for me.
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Quit spamming your channel here, faggot. Reverse psychology isn't working either. Kill yourself for the good of the world.
To be transparent I’m not far-right, although I’m not a fan of transexual culture and think it’s harmful, I don’t give much of a shit.
I think her strongest videos are on gender but even then I think she’s retarded and is missing the point.
My point is I was mostly a libertarian who used to be a liberal (when I wasn’t politically aware, just regurgitating the media I consumed) and youtubers are what entered me into the right, so when I heard of this youtubers who allegedly turns those that were “radicalized” (became libertarian basically on my end) by YouTube into lefties, I was intrigued, I wasn’t even close to alt-right and race politics so I would be even easier to “deradicalize” I suppose.
But once I watched it and saw her strawmanning and dishonesty I became even more sure of myself, as I consumed more and more of her videos I became increasingly frustrated with her bullshit arguments.
Once I dipped my toes on people like Hbomberguy and Shaun, I became to slowly subscribe to the views of conservatives on protecting traditional values and western morals, as these guys were essentially making forty minute video trying to convince me those didn’t exist because Marx and Hume were born in the west.
So I became further right after watching them.
>her
Wanna know how I know you're just outrage-shilling his channel with a proxy?
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Poor bait, Tranny.
Go dilate , you'll feel better
"Alt Right" isn't a real thing lol
no one cares fuck off shilling your channel
I actually thought it kinda sounded like this after I wrote it, but I’m not gonna pretend I give a shit about calling he a she or she a he just to be more palatable to you guys.
But to be perfectly clear, I do not recommend watching Contra, it’s forty minutes borefest that say nothing of substance.
If you read this post and think “oh man I’m gonna watch Contra to laughs at her shitty videos” and then become a leftyshill I think you’re an absolute retard that had really nothing of value to add to the right and just follows trends. We are better off without you.
thats a dude, dude.
To me alt-right as in alternative right was just the term to tell apart far-righters that agree with race politics and those who don’t.
As in “far right” would be just a fascist that doesn’t care much for race identity but more like nationalist values.
While an “alternative far-right” would be a fascist but based on race identity, defending an ethno-state, a white nationalist.
He's a degenerate, and his attempt at pseudo-intellectual cool and hip commentary falls flat for anyone with an above-room-temperature IQ. Like most leftists, his "contra-points" are based on false premises and strawmen, and often arrogantly so. He uses weird effects and costumes in his videos instead of getting straight to the point because he knows he has nothing substantial to say, and the effects lulls leftists into a false sense of security or authority because it reminds them of their diversity programming. His understanding of our views is incredibly superficial, and again, like most leftists he is too unbearingly arrogant to take seriously.
Absolutely. People who were "deradicalized" by anything else other than their own firsthand experience were never radical to begin with.
Precisely
the "alternative far-right", when you try to listen to them all you seem to hear is, joo, joo, da jooz. It tends to get annoying trying to listen to FBI informants acting like retards.
I've been watching contrapoints videos since like early 2017, ever since I heard of him through the alt hype's work
his videos can be funny and the production values are good too, but it's just mindless entertainment. he doesn't actually refute anything and just reinforces the tranny world view.
this video is a good example, I highly suggest you watch it the whole way through:
anyway...the idea that he successfully "de-radicalized" anyone is not only the height of hubris but he is most likely AstroTurfed to all hell as well (he was still somewhat obscure until mid to late 2018, then all of a sudden his channel started getting shilled here constantly and he got vanity pieces about him published in vice and his videos would break 1 million views within 24 hours when before it would take a month to break 100k)
if this is the best the left can muster I'm not worried at all
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Her.
Yeah, I’m not familiar with alt-right commentators but I’ve heard several accusations of them being controlled opposition.
The one’s I know are Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer.
I guess Nick Fuentes might be? I’ve heard him say he has issues with interracial relationships and talk about the Jew issue.
I read/listen to them mostly because I like being aware of what everyone is saying, would you say they aren’t trustworthy or have better commentators to recommend?
The political spectrum isn't a line graph. So, to say "far right" doesn't mean much, either, because it could encompass vastly different ideologies. There were already 2 main factions on the right in American politics, but one is dying due to the Trump Curse. He now leads the alternative to what had become the status quo.
>Anybody here actually was “deradicalized” by her?
Lol no. I don't take advice from mentally ill people.
he love the BBC
Who is this?
What does she do?
Why should I care?
Ccccccchecked
I get what you’re saying, but to me the two major lines are the economic and cultural.
But in regards to the economic I don’t really see the point of making that distinction on the discourse we are having here. Sure economically speaking the “far-right” would be Ancap while fascism and communism both defend state intervention, the Nazis for example were economic centrists, Keynesians.
However on the cultural/philosophical level the line is easier, the far left defends getting rid of all values and structures that make our society (capitalism, traditions, roles, hierarchies)
While the far right argues for defending those even if by force.
Also in my opinion, Trump’s right is very similar to the conservative right but more isolationist, so I guess the hawkish right might be dying, the only other faction Inside the republicans I see is the libertarian one with Rand Paul, Thomas Massie and Justin Amash, who has left so maybe they are losing power?
Could you elaborate which right you mean is dying to the Trump curse?
Left-wing youtuber.
Long boring videos about popular right-wing talking points and pundits.
I don’t think we should care but she is celebrated among the left as a “deradicalizer” of right wingers. I’m calling into question that to see if anyone can actually give an anecdote of how that happened to that since when I experienced her I only became more right wing
His videos are style over substance. It's the rich kid who got the best camera and hired a good editor with his allowance, but lacks the talent to make something good with it while exhaling arrogance.
It's astroturfed by Google who of course supports the anti-human transgender ideology.
His videos are shit. I remember one in particular, about "traps being gay", it was meme enough for me to give a damn and watch an hour of a tranny talking about gender.
Thing is, he doesn't talk about gender. The whole time he talks abou sucking dick and if "trap" is offensive and, at the end, answers the question by saying "transwomen are women, therefore not gay", going over the central point which is "are transwomen de facto women?".
I don't know if it's deliberately or just an extreme case of monkey see, monkey do, but that's some deep attempt of subversion. Basically, you disguise your narrative by basing yourself as an unbiased speaker - even if you assume your bias, you're still posing as unbiased, or at least your bias has justification - then, since any argument has to start at some point with many assumptions, you just make sure all of these assumptions are the premise of what you defend. In this case, while the question is "are traps gay?" he just takes the assumption that "traps are women", so the logical conclusion will always be "not gay". The fault, of course, lies in that the point of discussion is one layer deep, but thinly covered as settled matter, so the untrained viewer will just have to drink that up.
If you don't catch that, no matter how much you think about it, you will always agree with the conclusion, after all you took the premise as truth, even subconsciously. Even a well read person with some experience in debates might get lost in that, since it's not laid flat for you, but slowly introduced in a myriad of jokes, other points, dresses and so on. Even worse, in an actual debate the other person could, if noticed it, call him out and tied him to the main point, essentially taking control of the argument, and pointing out this flaw for the viewers, but in video format there is no "other person", and so he gets away with.
Exactly, it’s a shallow argument, even somewhat dishonest. She grabs an argument, tackles irrelevant points, but doesn’t address the larger argument, either due to ignorance or malice
i honestly can't imagine many right wingers are really being deradicalized by contrapoints. i can barely sit through his/her videos myself
Man you guys love to talk about some YouTube nobody dressed as a woman. You're building his brand, and responding to a literal promotion. If you can be persuaded this easily, you're probably easy pickings for this faggot regardless.
Observation: if you depend on others for what you think you’re a total fucking faggot cocksucker. Seriously. Consider yourself brain dead because you are. If you can’t count on yourself to come up with your own opinions, you are a worthless, retarded fuck.
Abraham Lincoln, 1864
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This is contrapoints method in a nutshell:
>now, I dont personally think you are bad because of this personqly philosophy
>but
The rest of the video is the 'but'. He pretends to be central while infact he's just the mouthpiece of the eviliest shit you could imagine. Need to gas the faggot.
Bait, but funnily enough this idea is quite popular in society. Specifically, having "your own ideas". Unfortunately this is the stupidest thing possible. People who truly believe their ideas are their own are always just blindly following the ideas of a man they cannot name who died at least a century before they were born.
She gets millions of views per video, has multiple articles celebrating her, I’m trying to understand why, we need to be aware of the enemy to combat it, specially if said enemy allegedly makes people switch sides.
A thread on Jow Forums is a drop in the water.
Yeah Contra's stuff, or leftube in general is very frustrating. They act as if people like Ben Shapiro
or Jordan Peterson are the main thinkers behind the "alt right" when in fact they are miltoast mainstream conservatives. Most of their jokes and aesthetics are about being degenerate - sexual fetishes, drugs, etc, which doesn't appeal to me at all.
Too much aesthetics but little intelectual content, usually some basic arguments are presented against right wing positions but most of them have already been addressed and refuted many times, etc.
Also much of leftubes content is like proving "these people are ACTUAL racists" or some shit, as if it was self evident that some of these positions are morally wrong.
Also they have false pretenses of being intelectual, knowledgeable of the western philosophical tradition. The best example of this is Philosophy Tube. if i remember correctly In her last video, Contrapoints namedrops Hegel to basically say "history is rational" or some shit, as if it was necessary to invoke his name.
Their solution to right wingers is basically to become extreme leftists, and its interesting that the mainstream is promoting these people, it really proves who are actually the dissidents.
you "test yourself" while you watch him?
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The “Contra deradicalized me” is just a forced glownigger meme. The only people who watch that faggot were lefties to begin with.
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That’s the most frustrating part for me, they don’t just try to tackle the arguments of right wing pundits but every video is an attempt to associate them with the extreme.
Kinda like on the Peterson video she’s like “I’m not saying this guys is a Nazi but he keeps saying our morals and values are being attacked by marxists, and you know who else said to be wary of Marxist trying to destroy our institutions? That’s right NAZIS! Now I’m not saying he is a NAZI however he’s using NAZI tactics, which does associate his views with them and basically he’s leading us into Nazism.”
As if criticizing marxists and hating them is unique to the fucking Nazis. The argument to Hitler is asinine because it doesn’t really mean anything. Hitler did a lot of lefty shit, which is why the nazism is socialism meme even exists, because you can show Hitler intervening in the economy or blaming bankers and associate it with lefties saying that today.
And the worst part is she doesn’t even have the balls (heh) to actually just say she thinks Peterson is a Nazi-lite, she uses very careful language to say “I’m not sayin he is, but if you look at my arguments that’s exaclty what I’m implying, but only implying!”
And then these people wanna lecture me on fucking dog-whistles, get fucked.
Not gonna watch him but I read something interesting about trannies. Some of them try to emulate what they consider to be an ideal woman, so that's usually the conservative reserved lady-like version since these are a dudes fantasy. I thought it was interesting, a dude with that disorder doesn't want to be a pink haired feminazi, he wants to be like Miss Ingalls or maybe a Daisy Cousens vibe. Someone a healthy male would consider to be a respectable woman. Opposite of the typical leftist woman.
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“Contrapoints deradicalized me” is a meme at this point. Leftoids who watched Steven crowder once claim that he deradicalized them from le alt right
every time I see it, it literally makes me feel more hatred towards trannies & faggots & Im absolutely positive this is intentional, theres no way it isnt.
the only people who dont have this reaction are freaks who are already kosher.
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It’s an it.
>Anybody here actually was “deradicalized” by her?
NO. This Slaanesh cultist admittedly is supported by the Jewish lobby. It receives millions of dollars to shill not only against whites, but against any shred of decency, temperance and modesty.
Honestly, you have to be kind of an idiot to have your opinions formed or swayed by talking heads on flashing screens.
they've been trying it for the whole of this year. It's just lazy gaslighting. Vice started shilling it, then the new york times planted that dorky "Paul Joseph Watson radicalized me" kid, forgot his faggot name.
>Anybody here actually was “deradicalized” by her?
I was. I’m a male feminist, LGBTQ2S supporting, full in AOC socialist and before that I was just a pathetic incel. If I see a Nazi I’d punch a Nazi. I hate fascism and fight it.
the only thing their vids made me wanna do is go stomp a trannies head in
This thread wouldn’t even be alive this long if you guys didn’t bump by literally just replying she.
Fuck next time I want a thread to be long I’ll just add a paragraph using she to refer to a tranny.
>mfw cracked the code
Don’t watch Kulinski but Jimmy Dore is legit, always gotta watch myself when I’m just laughing along to him dunking on democrats and he suddenly starts defending something lefty, wouldn’t be surprised if he actually turned people lefty.
>Half a million American fucking dollarydoos per MONTH via gaytreon
So it's a given that this faggot is involved in some serious money laundering, right?
Sounds legit.
Lord, what’s this from? What’s the context?
Sim. Durante uns tempos, depois do pânico com a alt-right em 2016, passei por essa fase do breadtube. Tentei seguir o dogma da esquerda, mas não deu. É mau demais, os travecos estragam tudo. Sou a favor dos direitos gays, mas até isso eles conseguiram estragar.
Depois vi o tipo de pessoa no twitter que dizia esse tipo de coisas, e nunca mais olhei para trás.
The “deradicalization” meme means being morally whipped back into line, ContraPoints is the physical embodiment of the discord tranny that attempts to derail threads on pol, his whole argument is “some nazis kill people, therefore what they say about demographic displacement is false”
Good production values and humour in a ‘mainstream’ kind of way. Lots of leftist arguments and distraction like ‘no sweetie the West doesn’t exist but if it did it would be evil.’ As I said in Contra thread 3838940 I don’t judge Thirsty Traps, just those who fall for them.
Well you don’t seem to be that much of a lefty if you’re unsure on whether to call Contra he or she.
>full in AOC socialist
lmao woke twitter/plebbit would never call AOC a socialist because she isn't lefty enough. exposed.
>10/10 would gaffer tape my penis for half an hour for 500 large a month
>her
Yeah the left did more to radicalize me as a “Nazi” than anyone on the right could ever have managed
>Her
I see what you're doing.
And the rest of you faggots shame on you for replying
SAGE
Hard to tell where people are now, Hasan Piker went full Hizbollah, Jamie Peck is pretty much an Internationalist Communist now.
It would be cute if it wasn’t so fucking whacko. Redistribution is great and all but not to the extent that it breaks down people’s bonds to their families, cultures and faiths and replaces those dependencies with states or corporations. There’s skimming the cream to help out and then there is slavery.
All of the videos are like this.
“I’m not saying you’re that but let me proceed to say you’re exactly that while pretending to be unbiased.”
I'm not that "woke twitter SJW" as you think. And AOC socialist means something like alt-right but on the left spectrum.
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Glad to hear it.
Who the fuck are they trying to convince though?
He tests how long into the video he can go without getting hard.
VICE pays these people to make videos and then runs articles about how effective they are, then they get bailed out by nonprofits
well the movement seems to focus more on trannies than workers.
at least that commie on youtube (jamie something) rejects identity politics
The Nazis were lame anyhoo, punishment battalions, shoot-to-Kill Commissars and blocking units copied from the Russians. Only an arsehole system raises its best men and then grinds them up like beef.
What radicalised me is that without the hierarchy of god > king > nation we’re all just savages with bullshit ideologies.
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>philosophy tube
>thought slime
>shaun and jen
>badmouseproductions
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This consists I guess the majority of the breadtubers I know of, I would love to see any pol YouTuber debunk these fags
She’s got a bit of a fluoride stare (I’m joking) but she could be a good Nazbol waifu if she didn’t autistically believe that crashing the Anglosphere is some sort of liberation theology.
This will lead to their eventual downfall, and all because they just can't help themselves but to push.
Buckle in, lads.
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Who is the guy who looks like Dr Who with leukaemia?
Pq vc tá falando em português? Atualmente vc é o que?
E eu concordo, eu fui literalmente de esquerda em 2016, simplesmente por repetir o que a mídia me ensinava, mas depois de eu ter contato com o mundo real da esquerda eu fui me afastando aos poucos. Não tenho nada contra gay na real ou até trans, mas a cultura que os membros mainstream e Twitter deles estão alimentando claramente só é prejudicial para as pessoas.
>Anybody here actually was “deradicalized” by her?
No, I can honestly say that other than scoffing at one of his stupid videos and clicking the little "x" at the top of my screen, this tranny cunt has never had any impact on my life whatsoever
>her
I WATCHED CONTRA POINTS AND NOW I AM A LEFTY WTF
spot on
The (((ADL))) funds/amplifies Contra and several other shitlibs on JewTube, IIRC.
It's ironic because the (((ADL)) often has positions that align with Zionism and maintaining a Jewish ethnostate in Israel, they just wrap it in leftist victimhood language so that it's more appealing to leftist NPCs. I doubt these leftists ever actually criticize Zionism or the neoliberal establishment too hard, because then they would start to get censored and deplatformed themselves. Just look at how the mainstream left treats Tulsi for not wanting to bomb Syria, for example.
I can't take trannies seriously, man. I have no idea how you do it. How can anyone take a man in a dress seriously?
leftist debate is so insufferably smug and arrogant that i cant stand to argue with them
Alt Hype has debunked all of these faggots
I watched one Shaun and Jen video, on the Trayvon case, and I was shocked that he has any following at all. The gist of the video was
>there was a fight, we have no concrete details on that fight, there's no way of knowing who started it or who had the upper hand or who was legally at fault (none of this is true mind you)
>but, the only people who would believe Zimmerman are racists, so if you don't think Zimmerman was guilty then you're just a racist looking for reasons to be racist you sick disgusting racist
The fucking verdict was unanimous, and from a legal perspective there was absolutely no other way for that case to go. But apparently if you don't want to see someone publicly lynched for a crime we have no evidence he committed, then you're a racist
just fuck off
>watches video
>That nazi character actually made a lot of good points.
Was it actually supposed to be redpilling?