Friendly reminder that Trump helped destroy the only hope for America.
>He wanted a wall along the entire southern border and a pause on all immigration. He vowed to rip up trade deals and revive manufacturing. He hated political correctness and warned of the decline Western culture. He railed against a “rigged” system and fomented a populist uprising that terrified the Republican Party’s leaders. He was endorsed by David Duke. And he was denounced and labeled a racist — by Donald Trump.
>There was some overlap with Buchanan. Trump, too, was against NAFTA and spoke of global trade deals as a drain on American jobs. And he was for a strict immigration policy. “We have to take care of the people who are here,” he said. But he drew a bright line when it came to Buchanan’s tone (“He seems to be a racist”) and accused him of cultivating support from the bigoted fringes.
>“On slow days,” Trump wrote in an op-ed, “he attacks gays, immigrants, welfare recipients, even Zulus. When cornered, he says he’s misunderstood.”
There you have it. The one viable right leaning party that could have got people off the GOP vs Dem meme plantation, but Trump wouldn't have any of that :^)
Tbqh, the problem is as much the public as the politicians. It's like if a con artist is well known as a con artist but everyone keeps giving him money. That's how the system is set up.
You ask people and most of the time they'll say politicians are liars and crooks etc, but as soon as it's election time the NPC chip turns on and they start repeating whatever the TV says.
Hudson Robinson
>but as soon as it's election time the NPC chip turns on and they start repeating whatever the TV says. Pavlovian conditioning.
In the 90s people were getting increasingly upset about the Government, much like they were around 2012. Jesse Ventura won as an outsider with barely any money compared to the others in Minnesota for instance.
>The year before, Jesse Ventura, known as “The Body” in his former career as a flamboyant professional wrestler, had run under the party’s banner for governor of Minnesota. He caught fire late in the race and won in an upset. Now he was the only Reform Party member in the nation holding a major office. His platform was vaguely libertarian and his blunt blow-up-the-system rhetoric made him a hit with the Perotistas, who urged him to run for president. He didn’t want to do that, but he did want to control the party.
The establishment were scared and needed to put a stop to this. Keep in mind this was in 1999 when the plan for 9/11 and the PNAC was already thought about.
>“The day of the outsider is over in the Beltway parties,” he said. "The money men have seen to that. Never again will our political establishment permit a dissident to come as close to capturing a nomination as we did in 1996. They have rearranged the primary schedules and rigged the game to protect the party favorites.”
>Fleetingly, Trump had flirted with a presidential campaign once before, delivering a high-profile speech in New Hampshire in the run-up to the 1988 campaign. His remarks played on the theme of America being kicked around and “ripped off” by foreign governments. He proposed attacking Iran, a menace to Washington since the Islamic Revolution of 1979, and seizing its oil fields.
And so, George W. Bush gained power and the rest is history.
Adam Adams
Yes, now the same old same old is going strong because no one learns from history.
Buchanan doesn't get a whole lot of mainstream press these days, but read some of the quieter human interest pieces about him over the last few years. Trump quietly apologized to Buchanan in recent years over their Reform party tussles and patched up their relationship. Was Trump some kind of double-crossing stooge, or did he learn a thing or two from his experience dealing with the lying media and maybe took a whole new perspective about the media smears? Did Trump not also speak about how the GOP should be treating Ron Paul with more respect and listening to his ideas? You be the judge, but my guess is that Trump was still learning how to play the game at the time and didn't have the tools to fight back effectively and maybe was too naive about how good the existing system was. He was wrong for ripping Pat in that way, but maybe his heart has always been mostly in the right place. Trump is fighting the entire weight of the pedophiles and lucifer worshippers and doing everything he can to try and get the wall and give us a brighter future. Pray for him, don't tear him down. By the way, whatever happens, Pat Buchanan is awesome, both in private and in public. It's a shame he was never President.
Thomas Myers
yeah and half the people here were leftists in high school, shit changes, people grow.
In the context of the Gulf War, on September 15, 1990, Buchanan appeared on The McLaughlin Group and said that "there are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in the Middle East – the Israeli defense ministry and its 'amen corner' in the United States." He also said: "The Israelis want this war desperately because they want the United States to destroy the Iraqi war machine. They want us to finish them off. They don't care about our relations with the Arab world."[37] Furthermore, on The McLaughlin Group Buchanan has also made such comments as "'Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory' and 'If you want to know ethnicity and power in the United States Senate, 13 members of the Senate are Jewish folks who are from 2% of the population. That is where real power is at ... '"[38]
>2012 government dissatisfaction If you were on Jow Forums raising hell, organizing protests, and watching CSPAN streams over the gun debates in 2012-2013, you're my kind of person
Pretty sure Pat is still alive and kicking. He has basically been saying what Jow Forums had been saying for 30 years. We need to curb/stop all immigration immediately if we a a country are even going to be recognizable in 50 years.
Anthony Barnes
>Buchanan >neocon It's still summer, after all
Tyler Ramirez
Pat Buchanan could have won the Republican nomination if he didn't throw labor(vocal supporter of ) under the bus for the Christian zionist vote. More annoying since Buchanan and sister Bay? are irish catholics. As a liberal I always like Buchanan except when he ran for president and became a completely different person.
Benjamin Torres
Trump was considering running against Buchanan so he pulled out the attack card, it’s no different than Trump shitposting against Ted Cruz and Rand Paul to win the primary but now they’re all friends. I wouldn’t read too much into it.