Alternative Meats

that's just an engineering problem that hasn't been solved yet
growing all the extra organs and stuff and having it jump around a pond for a year before eating it is just a waste of energy

I've only ever tasted fishy frog legs at a chinese buffet. Fresh frog legs taste like chicken.

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Why would i eat a quebec mans leg?

Slightly different from chicken, but it's mainly interchangeable, especially if you're breading them or whatever else. Good eats. Would order again next time I'm in a place where they're on the menu.

I would be concerned with WHERE you are sourcing your pigeons, mice, and rats senpai., Obviously in a shtf it doesn't matter as much, but urban, garbage eating animals such as those will have a ton of toxins in their meat by virtue of how and where they live.

frog legs are good and crab machinery standards almost match the processing needs for leg harvesting.

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At the very least keep frogs and other meats in mind whem nut job leftists start xrying about pork and beef and climate change. And if you do have a chance to try them when they are fresh dont fear the frog. They are tasty.

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>Beef
>Cheap

Retard

Eat lamb like superior Mediterranean peoples do.

Is there a specific species that’s edible , or all frogs is a fair game (excluding the poisonous ones , for obvious reasons)?

Frog legs are good but I haven't had them in years. They literally taste like chicken.

Lamb is a lesser meat than frog legs

is there a reason you guys don't eat more wild boar with how many there are over there?

I am not sure because I buy farm raised legs in a 5lb case.

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>australia
definitely look up which ones you can eat. in the us it is mainly bullfrogs.

Regional differences, a lot of states don't have any boars roaming around.

That being said, even in the states that have them, a lot are just killed for population control without being eaten. The industrious ones who live off the land will eat them no problem.

We eat wild boar if it isn't diseased. They are open season all year in the southeast. They make fine hams.

Squirrel, largemouth bass, blue gill, sunfish and rabbit all taste pretty decent and are kinda abnormal.

most normies do not hunt, and in many states it is illegal to sell game meat, so it ends up just being hunters, their families, and their friends who eat it. additionally, once they get big they don't taste very good.

>it is illegal to sell game meat
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If I recall correctly, rabbit has the highest rate of return per resources invested with regards to mammalian livestock. Good choice.

>>Eat bugs goy!!

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rabbits raised by yourself.
20 pounds of grass over 6 months. breed them, feed them, and eat them.

youre well informed
t. rabbit farmer.

Seems like it would depend a bit on your local natural predator situation, but I've heard of fencing off a section of meadow / woodlands and just getting a population of rabbits to feed and fuck on their own to the point of being able to just go get one as needed.

its mostly to avoid overhunting from poaching.
at least thats the reason given.

they're great. they'll eat most everything when it comes to brush. they especially love saplings. I love em too. so sweet. the problem with colonies though is they will only breed during a certain time of year. they go by the amount of sunlight to know what time it is to breed, so if you have indoor hutches you can fool them into thinking that its spring time and make fuckie fuckie.

>Don't let the left convince you to eat maggots when frogs are plentiful and delicious.

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This. Just look at that woman who analyzed the pesticide levels in one of those burger king fake whoppers. Disgusting.

>they'll eat most everything when it comes to brush
Don't I know it. The first time I tried to do a real outdoor garden, I woke up one morning hoping to water my lovely up and coming plants and there's this fat rabbit just lying on its side in the middle of my garden looking at me like
>what are you gonna do about it?

The way I figure, anything that can proliferate in an almost-urban area like that is probably a good low-maintenance choice. Fortunately, a little bit of fencing and they stick to munching on the lawn.

if you want bugs fine have them
but I'd prefer a proper steak
but that's the beauty of growing it in a lab instead of an organism
you can get any cut of any animal and probably even more we can't even imagine yet

still a waste rabbits are only ~40% meat
there's also a lot of wasted energy having them hop around your garden for half a year
not even counting your labor of raising and processing them

Yeah. You'll do fine with them. I live in Maine and they're a beloved treat. I'm hoping to really get the production booming soon so that I have at least 80 does and 20 bucks. those 80 does will bear at least 320 kits per breeding. at most they'll produce 800. you can breed them at a cycle of about 8 weeks (2 weeks before properly weaned) to have a rabbit bear you at least 3 litters a year. that's a minimum of 12 rabbits a doe, and as many as 30. 80 does could bear me a minimum of 960 kits a year, and as much as 2400-3200.

>what are cages?
>what are fences?
>what is proper organization?
they take 3 months to reach slaughter weight if you do it properly.

Alligator tastes just like chicken, and there are plenty of those too.

You wanna be altruistic? Wanna change your diet in a way that will benefit the world?
Just start eating people.

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Only south of the mason dixon

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also the 40% meat isn't taking into account for the pelts you can use, the bones you can use, and the organs you can use. you're just not thinking about the whole cycle. get a pig to feed the remains of your rabbit to and you'll be fine.

Do folks make rabbit sausage and rabbit stew? I've never heard of it, but it seems logical unless there's some secret health and safety issue. I had a pair of rabbit skin gloves once. Talk about soft, furry, and warm on the inside.

those are just marginal improvements
why grow an entire animal when you only want its meat?
also natural growth is extremely inefficient and you only get 1.5-15% (depending on species) of the caloric input returned in meat.
then there's all the labor in feeding them and cleaning up their waste as well as slaughtering and processing them

>the pelts you can use
we don't have a use for nearly as many pelts as we'd need rabbits to feed us, what use are bones?
and organs despite some specialties in small quantities are only used because animals are currently so resource intensive it would be wasteful not to use them
>get a pig to feed the remains of your rabbit to and you'll be fine
nice let's keep multiplying single digit efficiencies

you sound like a caveman negro glorifying the old ways not even being capable of understanding how a truly modern food industry would look like

Can confirm, and it eat bugs.

Not living in Brazil...

what did they eat for dinner?

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I've even had rabbit pasta before. Shit was incredible.

I read a book called something like Possom Living about semi-off-grid survival using very little money. Pretty sure they made sausage with their rabbits.

Also, I think stew is the archetypal dish most people think of when considering how rabbit is prepared.

Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter Mika, of Morning Joe fame, used to occasionally refer to the strange juxtaposition between her mom and her dad because her mom was the type to make varmint stew for all the mucky mucks who knew her dad who had come over for a fancy dinner. Sounds like my kind of gal.

Ever heard about rabbit starvation? It's not nutricional enough.

Speaking of alternative meats

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Homemade smoked rabbit pizza is amazing late at night when you're dropping redpills on chicken band

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Eat fetuses goy

Yup. But as a supplemental protein source it ought to be alright. Kind of like I wouldn't want to live on vegetables alone, but you don't necessarily need to be sucking down meat all day long to compensate.

American bullfrogs , they gotta be big to eat. Wild hunted frogs taste the best by far, most store bought and restaurant legs have a "muddy dirt" taste

Let's kill all the frogs to feed the niggers. Then we can kill all the crickets. Then we can mine all the stars for hydrogen to fusion-power our mega-factories. And we can mine the moon for rare-earth minerals to put in the niggertech. And then the night will be one great expanse of darkness and silence.

but that begs the question. Why would I ever stop eating actual meat?

I'll hop over and try some. Frog legs are good, but really expensive. So is rabbit. A lot less fat though.

I've eaten wild boar before, I can't make it a dietary staple because the logistics of making in a hunting trip and processing the game are too demanding to make it a regular indulgence. I get to take one hunting trip a year at best, wild hogs aren't quite as numerous as you may be imagining, it's not like I can just point a rifle out my back window and take one down. The closest population of feral hogs to me is probably a couple counties away; it would take a definite investment of leisure time and travel to go bag one.

You guys are dealing with our invasive grey squirrels, they're a problem for your ecosystem, but I don't see all of you busting out the catapults and bagging them for dinner. Squirrel's perfectly edible and palatable meat, I've tried it. But you don't regularly harvest them because you have other, more convenient dining options. For the same reason, I only rarely eat wild boar.

Its fine as a meat, rabbit starvation is from a lack of fat. Rabbit is nearly without fat. Its fine as a supplement. The king of meats is bison.

How did our squirrels get to the UK? Doesn't seem like the kind of a thing that would easily make it back over by boat or plane. Did some wise guy think he could set up a squirrel farm in his back yard or something and that they wouldn't get loose?

Just raise fucking chickens? its pretty easy...wtf frogs?

You get like 2 nibbles of meat off a frog

Yeah but you can just set out frog paper and come back in the morning.

>and there are absolutely no downsides to it

very expensive and tastes bad

user, don't lie to the yankees and foreigners, gator does not taste "just like" chicken. The flavor is reminiscent of chicken, certainly, but it's a stronger flavor that along with its different texture is very easily distinguished from fowl.

Any of you anons who've never tried gator, you'd be entirely capable of telling it from chicken in a blind taste test.

I've had "rabbit with 40 cloves of garlic" and potatoes, it was quite good.

>very expensive and tastes bad
once again those are only engineering problems that can and will be solved

I dunno, user, why ask me when you can ask Google? I'm just gonna Google it in turn, you could totally skip the middle man.

...okay, it looks like they were imported on purpose. Looks like the upper class had them brought over and released on their estates, for primarily decorative reasons. It was a trend. It was a dumbass trend carried on by inbred muppets with too much money and too little sense. So that's what happened there, apparently.

>They are delicious when freshly fried
Can confirm, used to go giggin in south LA. Also
good with Tiger sauce and Tobbasco.

Sometimes people have interesting stories, elaborations, or rants when they drop odd factoids like that. It's not like a passing curiosity in who the Rothschilds are or why Jews are bad where I should rightly be told to RTFM unless somebody has some documentary links ready to go.

Cats before dogs...

That is all.

so the jews are really trying to tell us that we can't eat food anymore. someday they will try to ban all food and they will force us to take food pills. the jews have been getting away with too much for too long but we are anti-semites for pointing this out

Eh, that's fair, I guess. Actually, come to that, I do happen to have a documentary link handy regarding the eastern grey squirrel.
>youtube.com/watch?v=XIHekYpkJO0
It's kind of an interesting documentary. It talks a bit about squirrel behavior, how scientists have figured out that the way they locate their buried stores for the winter relies on triangulated their stashes with landmarks, and a bit about how the eastern grey is proliferating in the UK as an invasive species. If you're interested in learning about squirrels, there's some motherfuckers who'll tell you about squirrels in that video.

EAT THE POOR

FUCK THE RICH

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>the way they locate their buried stores for the winter relies on triangulated their stashes with landmarks
Well shit. Now I'm going to have to watch this. It looks for all the world like the just like to dig holes in the lawn everywhere because it's in their blood. Jow Forums has /comfy/ autism.

>The person who's country is being flooded by actual mental caveman is calling someone else a caveman
I have only to laugh

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Frogs are good. Armadillo & Raccoon is surprisingly good. Squirrels outside of cities & suburbs are rather tasty too. Gator isnt bad, Asian carp is boney but really good.

I have never had armadillo or raccoon. I've eaten possum, even, and it never occurred to me to conceptualize armor piglets and trash pandas as food.

Dude...seriously, thank you for making this thread. In recent years I've found I can't eat gluten or HFCS, have lactose intolerance, and am allergic to chicken. Food options have been ridiculously limited and this idea is fucking great.

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>trash pandas

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Could taste be dependent on species of frog?

Even if costs more to feed them and is time-intensive, it's still better than buying factory-farmed meat.

>what use are bones?
They can be composted. Rabbit bones are small and probably soft enough for a hog to eat and digest the marrow and cartilage. Then you can compost the pig manure.
>we don't have a use for nearly as many pelts as we'd need rabbits to feed us
That isn't true. It would take at least 50 rabbit pelts to make a single queen-sized double-sided blanket. He isn't talking about industrially farming rabbits to feed the entire population, just raising them yourself for friends and family. If you figured out a cheap and effective way to cure the pelts, you could make a lot of money by selling blankets.

> truly modern food industry
The modern food industry is unethical and environmentally damaging. That's the only way it manages to feed the entire population.

I can't believe you guys are finally catching up

Why are you being such a throwback, OP?

The things you find in the grocery store are the original "alternative meats." People ate bugs, snails, frogs, rodents, porcupines, skunk, snakes, etc, way before things like beef, chicken, fish, pork became the better alternative.

stop being a throwback.

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I've had boar and it does NOT taste good. Gamey in a bad way. It does not taste like pork. Also they're known to be worm/disease ridden.

>frog paper
What is this I don't even?

I don't care about parasites, bacteria or diseases in meat. Just cook the shit out of it if you're that worried. Thin slice it, let it sit in a salty and/or vinegary marinade for a few days, then bake it at 450 for 30 minutes. Or slice it up and boil it for 20-30 minutes, then throw it in a stew, chili or soup.

Boar does not taste *bad*, it just doesn't taste the same as commercially available pork. It's gamey, sure, but it's literally game. It's good, if it's seasoned and cooked right.

Everything's unpalatable if you expect it to taste like something it's not. Mead tastes awful, if you go into it expecting it to taste like Kool Aid. Wild boar has a stronger, gamier taste than farm-raised swine, but it's good if you're using the right herbs and controlling the heat well.

Everyone hates you for good reason

It's like a glue trap for slimy critters.

Hmm. I don’t like frog legs. Gator bites are good though

My friend cooked it with standard spices on a grill, probably the same ones if he was cooking regular pork. Come to think of it, he was grilling it at the same time he was grilling pork (sausages). I don't think he followed any specialty recipes.

Need to get me one of these honestly, got big ass hippity hoppity bull froggitys on my property