Ive never seen or heard of anyone getting kicked out a church.. idk why libs use that line so much
Jace Morales
Sorry bout the typos, typed fast, didn't proof read.
ALSO: Jesus spoke out against the hypocrisy inherent in religious leaders. Nowadays, doesn't this apply to hypocritical Christian preachers?
Sorry Jow Forums, but Jesus would not vote Trump.
Blake Sanchez
>Ive never seen or heard of anyone getting kicked out a church It happened to me. Pastor calls me on stage and says: "You have not accepted Jesus, what happens when you die?"
I said: "According to you I go to hell."
He says: "Why don't you seem to care?"
I said: "Muslims think their Quran is the perfect word of God, and you are going to hell. How much sleep have you lost over that?"
Boom. Escorted out.
Matthew Gonzalez
Jow Forums goes full retard when it comes to religion.
Brody Murphy
>I HAVE NEVER READ THE BIBLE the post
Aiden Russell
>no, I have nothing but pure contempt for your primitive backwards religion >but maybe if I cherry pick concepts out of context from your literature, I can use them as a bludgeon against you to make you do what I want
Wyatt Adams
>>I HAVE NEVER READ THE BIBLE >the post Clearly you never have. Or, at least, you only care about the Old Testament.
Carter Hernandez
>driving the money changers out of the temple >sending the demons into the pigs who proceed to run off a cliff >the parable of the servant who wisely invested his master's money >cursing a fig tree because it wouldn't bear him fruit even though it was the wrong time of year >sell your cloak and buy a sword
God loves you, and commands you to love others. However, the word "agape" is more like a parental love than a hippy, "be friends with everyone" type love.
What if the new Jesus was generally disliked by people because of his autism? Maybe he just wants to be frens and realizes that only bloodshed results in nonfrens living with frens and that’s why God split up the races at the Tower of Babble?
Zachary Cook
The fig tree is a long-standing reference in Scripture to the Tribe of Judah.
Hosea 9:10–14
[10] Like grapes in the wilderness, I found Israel. Like the first fruit on the fig tree in its first season, I saw your fathers. But they came to Baal-peor and consecrated themselves to the thing of shame, and became detestable like the thing they loved. [11] Ephraim's glory shall fly away like a bird— no birth, no pregnancy, no conception! [12] Even if they bring up children, I will bereave them till none is left. Woe to them when I depart from them! [13] Ephraim, as I have seen, was like a young palm planted in a meadow; but Ephraim must lead his children out to slaughter. [14] Give them, O LORD— what will you give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. (ESV)
Jonathan Brown
If Jesus came back. He would be telling criminals to atone for their sins. Sadly, God isn't in Shitfornia. Nor here on earth. Don't think you his absence is odd?
No...obviously too many Satoids running shit because we lack belief in the Almighty
Jackson Thomas
>>sell your cloak and buy a sword Firstly, thank you for making an argument backed up by scripture.
The problem is, Jesus also says that those who live by the sword, die by the sword Matthew 26:52
These verses are contradicotry, but given that Jesus also said: "Blessed are the peacemakers,for they will be called children of God." (Matthew 5:9), Jesus seems overwhelmingly opposed to violence. >sell your cloak and buy a sword This was clearly indicating that he was fulfilling the prophecy in Isaiah 53:9-12. It isn't something to use to justify owning guns.
Hudson Rogers
In the same book of Matthew, Jesus is quoted as saying, "Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and turn to attack you (Matthew 7:6).
In Matthew 23 he proceeds to tear into the Scribes and Pharisees, calling them hypocrites, blind guides, blind fools, children of Hell, extortionists, whitewashed tombs, and says that they are filled with iniquity. He then goes on to describe them as serpents, a brood of vipers, sons of murderers, and He asks them how it is they think they will escape being sentenced to Hell. Not exactly the language of a pacifist.
I personally don't care much for the Synoptic Gospels but I thought it was only fair to draw arguments from the book you mentioned to create an apples to apples argument.
Isaac Bailey
Then everyone clapped
Ayden Taylor
I hate people spouting bible quotes without proper context.
Matthew Gomez
That pastor? Grew up to be George Lopez
Thomas Butler
>Suppose Jesus came back without revealing who he was. Pity the book explicitly states He won't do that, and that when He does return it'll be at the head of an army.
Nathan Bailey
>doesn't believe in God but is in a church And then everyone clapped.
Christianity is a trick. The modern christians are acting no different than ancient one. Remember the inquisition? YHVH is Satan, and his child has deceived you utterly.
Jayden Peterson
Imagine how many times Jesus has come back in the past 150 years only to be thrown into an asylum for the rest of his days trying to convince people he's Jesus
Cameron Sanchez
He also said sell your cloaks and buy swords/guns. He also said that he was going to literally kill more than half the world's population.
Honestly, there's nothing to be done about it. Men fucked up the planet, can't slice it any other way because we allowed it to become like this. We strayed from the light of the Lord and gave into degeneracy, if Jesus forsakes mankind I could not fault him in doing so.
>If you understood the actual meaning of that phrase, you would realize how stupid you look. So Jesus meant to whip out your AR-15 and blow everyone to shit?
Nolan Myers
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I always felt that when Jesus speaks of swords here and later in the book of Matthew, that he was not speaking of literal swords, nor of a literal cloak in that verse. The sword is the Truth, the Word of God, Jesus himself. The cloak is shelter, or perhaps comfort and protection. In this interpretation, those two verses sound like this.
Give up your comfort and gain the Word of God. Those who live by the Word of God, die by the Word of God.
Of course, I don't know how those verses have been changed over time and across languages, so there could be nuances that I'm missing that render my interpretation completely incorrect, but I still think they're good sayings to live by.
We have verses where Jesus promotes swords and denounces them. There are only 2-3 verses where he promotes them. Everything else is about turning the other cheek, returning no violence, loving your neighbor as yourself (the Parable of the Good Samaritan is probably the best known scripture in the world.)
I dunno. I think Jesus would basically look like a liberal hippy if he came back today, and evangelicals would denounce him, just as the Pharisees did.
>Let's face it. Modern Christianians would hate Jesus and call him a libtard SJW if he came back Jesus wasn't even a real person, you Jewish cocksucker
Exactly, it's always been like this. Even right after Christ ascended to Heaven if front of people's eyes, a lot of them still denounced Him in order to stay out of trouble with the temple. Heck, even Peter, one of Christ's closest friends, denied Christ three times, trying to stay out of trouble. And there was Judas, of course. The entire history of human's relationship with God is filled with us using Him to justify our sins and getting angry when the Truth is pointed out to us.
Eli Gray
okay so before saying the part about turn the other cheek, Jesus says "do not resist an evil person". I checked the greek version and it turns out "do not resist an evil person" is actually a fantastically shitty translation of what was actually written. if you make a literal translation of the greek version, the "do not resist an evil person" comes out instead as "do not compare with that which is worthless". so what he's saying is, if somebody slaps you, don't bother slapping them back. instead, let it bother you so little that you would "turn the other cheek" to give them an opportunity to slap that one as well. it's the spiritual equivalent of getting punched in the mouth and then staring your aggressor straight in the eye and smiling. you are showing yourself to be bulletproof. he next says "if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well" and then finally, and I think this is the example that really shows what he's saying, he says "If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles." He's saying, don't be a weak little bitch, stand up to your challenger in such a way that he knows you are completely unchallenged. and then, in the very next part of the sermon, he talks about having love for your enemies. which is to say, instead of dealing with an aggressor by reciprocating with the same aggression, you should reciprocate by helping that person no longer be such a shitty person. you should find a solution that is rooted in the idea that you are trying to truly solve the problem at hand, and not simply copy it. let your solution not come from a knee-jerk emotional reaction, but let it come from a place of calm thoughtfulness and meaning.
of course "love your enemies" doesn't mean "love your enemies more than yourself" or "love your enemies more than your family". just throwing that out there, because so many people misunderstand that part. sometimes you just gotta put some slugs in a bitch, y'hear.
