>individual rights >freedom of speech >presumption of innocence >human rights >freedom of religion
does this list seem familiar? it should. these are the principles upon which western civilization is built and the reason why our countries are the greatest on earth
it is not hyperbolic to say that the mainstream left is anti-western because they dont believe in any of these principles. however instead of beating a dead horse i want to draw your attention to yourselves, the nazi larpers on this board are equally as anti-western as the communists are despite claiming otherwise. it is a very bizarre detachment from reality. most people oppose both groups for one simple reason: they are anti-western. headcanons about jews, white people, black people, men, women, asians from both sides are irrelevant, the only thing that matters is the principle. and if you want to fight the leftists you need to gain your principles back and fight for western civilization instead of trying to undermine it
No it isn't. It's steeped in the western tradition. The nazi government was formed to follow the example of the roman empire. Nazis WERE individualistic in the sense of the western tradition. Let's face it, your whole criticism of nazism rests on your belief in the made up story of the holocaust. Without the holocaust, what criticism do you have?
Jason Edwards
I can't do it.
Ian Wilson
>Without the holocaust, what criticism do you have? natsoc is against individual rights, freedom of speech, presumption of innocence, human rights and freedom of religion. my criticism of natsoc is that its fundamentally anti-western
Austin King
Nazis had individual rights. The rights, however, only applied to german citizens.
Freedom of speech doesn't exist in any country except for the USA. Calling it a western value is a condemnation of the whole western world. In how many countries is it illegal to deny the holocaust? Freedom of religion, similarly, only came about because the USA enshrined it in law. There was never any such thing in the west before that. "Human Rights" are a jewish invention that never existed prior to the formation of israel.
Christ you really don’t understand the west other than what it has become sense the late 1960’s OP. What you picture the west as is only a blip of time when compared to the long history of the west. If anything, fascist style government is much closer to the standard ruling methods practiced in the west compared to modern economic liberalism
>Nazis had individual rights. The rights, however, only applied to german citizens. thats not what individual rights mean >Freedom of speech doesn't exist in any country except for the USA correction, america is the only country where the state is prohibited from restricting your speech. we all still operate under the premise that free speech is a good thing. and nothing is perfect, not even the western civilization. we can always do better, the world isnt black and white >Freedom of religion, similarly, only came about because the USA enshrined it in law not true >"Human Rights" are a jewish invention that never existed prior to the formation of israel. not true
just admit it, you are just as anti-west as the communists
Isaiah Cooper
I dislike Nazis but I kind of like Nazi Germany's internal policies. However, principles and values are hollow and meaningless when your people are under threat. In times of danger, Europeans have always banded together for the common good and elected a Dictator to rule with an iron fist. This is the true social contract. The Dictator is expected to avert the crisis and save his people and in return, he is granted wide ranging powers. Examples; Roman Republic Revolutionary France Poland 1920 Celtic tribes of Britain in the face of the Roman Invasion German tribes in the face of Roman invasion Russia during the Time of Troubles
Joshua Murphy
Literally every European state had serious and deadly restrictions of what religion you were allowed to adhere to throughout all of its history until very recently.
Sage because you should know this.
Alexander Lee
>oy vei i dont like something shut it down! how predictable western civilization is not under threat to such an extend that we need to abandon all our values. thats exactly what globalists want, these principles are incompatible with the globalist dream
Christopher Martinez
>thats not what individual rights mean Individual rights means the rights of individuals. It means that there are certain ways in which the state cannot oppress an individual.
>we all still operate under the premise that free speech is a good thing. Except when it comes to the speech you don't like. I think even the nazis would agree with you on that.
>not true I think it is true, but either way it's not a longstanding western value as you claim.
>not true again, I disagree. Prove that the human rights idea is a western tradition.
Zachary Ortiz
Women killed it all. It took 2000 years to build, and in 100 they have destroyed it. The wheel rolls on... The next step is dictatorship user. In another 2000 years we might get what we had back.
Charles Johnson
I believe in surfing the kali yuga. I don't believe we can truly be free until we solve the overpopulation crisis. Or until it solves itself. youtube.com/watch?v=0-8WaQDvQvs
>don't cure the cancer treat the tumor. >don't kill the drug dealer send the addicts to rehab
Jaxson Stewart
All you give a shit about is money. You have no principles either.
Nathan Taylor
Shit don't mean a thing if you got no money no pussy no weed long as you got 11 likes you wont lose any sleep. shit dont mean a thing if you got no man no cash oh well long as you got 11 likes you wont hate yo self. youtube.com/watch?v=F3i7jRvs0bQ
