Communism is such a shitty ideology, but people want to keep trying it because it wasn't real communism

>Communism is such a shitty ideology, but people want to keep trying it because it wasn't real communism
>Libertarianism is such a good ideology, but people have never even tried it
>B-but muh monopolies
Monopolies are not Libertarian
Its time for Jow Forums to get back to its Libertarian roots

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Monopolies are the inevitable result of libertarianism

Just as any well-meaning authoritarian regime will inevitably devolve into an idealogically totalitarian hell, so will any well-meaning libertarian movement inevitably devolve into people taking advantage of their unfettered resources to try and cement their advantage by any means possible

Checks and balances are the only way.

>>Libertarianism is such a good ideology, but people have never even tried it
because it's inherently flawed in that in cannot morally bring itself into being, communism and fascism have no such qualms and as such considered actual ideologies and not memes

I'm all for a form of communism where robots do all the work and providing and people can focus on creative projects and their own passions.

Capitalism is such a good ideology in order to escape it people keep trying to pursue even hopeless dreams

Source?

People who have never known anything else are desperate to escape capitalism

People who actually live in socialist nations are desperate to go to capitalist countries

Third position

>Monopolies are the inevitable result of libertarianism
No it isn't
>communism and fascism have no such qualms and as such considered actual ideologies and not memes
lol
that's not how economics work
That's not the problem of Capitalism but the people lacking perspective you absolute retard, it'd be good to remove 95% of products from American stores for a year, and giving them tickets to buy the new sony tv after 5 years of waiting

It absolutely is

The only way to prevent people from using their resources to prevent other people from interfering with their ability to acquire more resources is by regulating them

Otherwise the first person up the ladder will pull it up behind them by any means necessary.

Fuck the monopolies, fuck the consumerist society. Globalism and multiculturalism are false God's, there's nothing stronger than blood.

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Yes it actually is. The masses (In this case solar powered robots) provide the means of production instead of human laborers. Its exactly how it actually works. How do you imagine it doesn't work that way or are you just being a stubborn contrary fool on the internet?

>X ideology would work pretty well under utopian conditions!
truism/autism/etcet

True I don't as much give a shit about the system being used as the conditions around the system. Capitalism over produces products designed to fail to keep money flowing in, incredibly wasteful. Communism demotivates people who are trapped filling a role they never wanted and aren't compensated for thus providing terrible workmanship and incredibly low moral. Really every system we have is pretty terrible and its depressing as fuck that Capitalism is the best we can currently do.

in a true libertarian society, the people would rise up and kill the people that ran the monopolies for violating their NAP's

>lolberts
Fuck off civnat faggot

Libertarianism with welfare is national suicide.

>because it's inherently flawed in that in cannot morally bring itself into being

How do you know, nobody ever has tried it. It's like you're saying "bees can't fly, because we have absolute proof that their wing/weight ration just like totally can't (bong hit) work."

No, sorry, science-denier, in the name of actual science we're going to have to try libertarianism.

>It's like you're saying "bees can't fly, because we have absolute proof that their wing/weight ration just like totally can't (bong hit) work."
Pretty strong argument champ.

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Okay, let's you and I discuss this like adults and start with the foundations

What would you describe as libertarianism? Not some vague simplistic truism about How Things Should Be, I'm looking for specific parameters here.

All true libertarians are fascist. The rest are just self centered degenerates who destroy everything around them with their rampant materialism. Allowing everyone to do what they want will only end up destroying your so called freedom.