What the notoriously corrupt United States federal government is claiming is to have sent men to the moon in 1969, on the VERY FIRST attempt, even though right here on earth Mt. Everest and the South Pole took NUMEROUS tries before success, allegedly accomplishing this amazing feat with 50 YEAR older technology (a cell phone has ONE MILLION times more computing power than ALL of NASA did in 1969), yet 50 YEARS later NASA can now only send astronauts ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance to the moon, even with FIVE DECADES more advancements in rockets and computers.
If Toyota claimed they made a car 50 YEARS ago that could travel 50,000 miles on one gallon of gasoline, yet today their best car can only go 50 miles per gallon, or ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance, would not the forgery of the previous claim be incredibly obvious? If it were not for people's pride and emotional attachment to the 50 YEAR OLD unrepeatable moon landing claim, also with only ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance capable FIVE DECADES later, they would otherwise easily recognize this equally preposterous claim as the fraud that it sadly is.
The alleged moon landings are the only technological claim in the entire history of the world, such as the first automobile, airplane, or nuclear power, which was not far surpassed in capability 50 YEARS later, much less not even able to be duplicated by any nation on earth 50 YEARS later. The supposed moon landings are also the only time in history that such claimed expensive technology was deliberately destroyed afterwards (175 BILLION DOLLARS worth), only done so to hide the evidence of the fraud.
Seeing how it is IMPOSSIBLE for technology to go BACKWARDS and today NASA can only send astronauts ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance to the moon as was claimed 50 YEARS ago on the VERY FIRST attempt with FIVE DECADES OLDER technology, the only remaining conclusion is that the 1969 claim was a federal government lie. It is that simple and that corrupt.
>What the notoriously corrupt United States federal government is claiming is to have sent men to the moon in 1969, on the VERY FIRST attempt No they had several missions prior to that that tested more and more of the functionality.
Even had a landing test prior to the real landing where they took the apollo lander and almost landed it but then brought it back.
Julian Moore
>Seeing how it is IMPOSSIBLE for technology to go BACKWARDS and today NASA can only send astronauts ONE - THOUSANDTH the distance to the moon as was claimed 50 YEARS ago on the VERY FIRST attempt with FIVE DECADES OLDER technology, the only remaining conclusion is that the 1969 claim was a federal government lie. It is that simple and that corrupt. They shut down the Apollo program to direct attention away from the nazi scientist and then assassinated him with cancer.
Why if it was faked would they use a nazi scientist?
If it would be fake the soviets would call it out. Today NASA doesnt send astronauts to the moon or beyond because its not profitable enough. There is no USSR to beat and China is still far behind. Techonlogy 50 years ago was enough to send people to the moon. It just didnt develop that much more since the late 1980ties, when, what a coincedence, the cold war ended.
>assassinated him with cancer. how do you do that?
You dumb. There was a massive amount of training and testing to make sure it worked the first try.
Daniel White
Astrophysicist here. You people calling it "fake" are idiot conspiracy theorists.
Lucas Lewis
What would happen to society if the moon landings were proven fake?
Charles Jackson
tinfoil ship flys through the van allen belt. men in tin foil suits hang out on the moon in -200c temputarture and then pull out a phone nixon uses his rotary to call them in 1967. Then USA goes back a few times but then decides to never go back again, and then they delete ALL the tousands of tapes of data. They gave moon rocks to multiple nations as gifts that were later proved to be petrified wood. for fun though they took a go kart and some gold equipment there just to fool around on.. The testimonies of all the astronauts are inconsistent and nothing makes sense....
USA would lose incredible amount of prestige and credibility in the rest of the world. It would be a meme for eternity. All you need is to get close enough and livestream (so its hard to be faked) the exact landing side. If nothing is there and made no mistake it would be proof.
They stopped doing Moon missions as soon as the VCR was a thing. Can't have the goyim documenting this shit as it happens. Now, however, special effects advancements combined with public retardation means they can fake another big space mission. Get ready for a rainbow flag to be "planted' on the moon (and probably Mars as well) by a nigger tranny.
Blake Robinson
>I'm in an oxygen-less vacuum, hundreds of thousands of miles away from any help, and a single puncture to my suit will mean certain death. >I know what I'll do, I'll dance around on a surface littered with sharp little rocks and talcum-like dirt! Weeeeee!
>so its hard to be faked Because you know how space works?
Juan Parker
Every space agency is faking every thing they do in space. No exceptions. The china moon landing was even more fake than the USA one and nobody in any other space agency called them out on it. The whole of space exploration is a psyop.
>>assassinated him with cancer. >how do you do that? Radioactive materials. Would be a "poetic" death because Jews can point to Einstein as a big champion of both the Jews and someone who promoted the atomic bomb.
>>I'm in an oxygen-less vacuum, hundreds of thousands of miles away from any help, and a single puncture to my suit will mean certain death. >>I know what I'll do, I'll dance around on a surface littered with sharp little rocks and talcum-like dirt! Weeeeee! No, a single small puncture leads to air escaping slowly. They've had punctures in suits in vacuums many times. They had a hole in the ISS recently.
Colton Edwards
I have bad news. If you look at the behavior of the dust he's kicking up, it does indeed look like he's in a vacuum. It all follows parabolas flattened by velocity with no atmospheric suspensory action.
Jonathan Gonzalez
If you are denying the moonlanding than I know it better than you faggot.
Charles Hernandez
You've got it all wrong. There is likely afoot, however the lies are about new technology. Not old. They realized if they downplay how advanced we are they can milk the profits for way, way longer. We should collectively be 100 years ahead of where we are right now. But the reality is only a very, very small number of people are privy to that technology.
Colton Powell
>first attempt fucking idiot Most likely b8, but for the actual curious, the landing on 11 was preceded by two visits to the moon on Apollo 8 and 11. 8 was a test of the Command/Service module in lunar orbit and 10 was a "dress rehearsal" of the actual landing. 10 did everything 11 did except actually land. The Lunar Module descended to about 6 miles above the lunar surface before ditching the descent stage and meeting back up with the CSM. When 11 happened, it arguably had the least question marks on it compared to the missions before it.
Good an expert. So during the moon landings slingshot maneuvers were used from orbit to gain speed traveling to and from the moon. Why doesn't the moon slingshot out of its orbital path around the earth into the sun? Why doesn't the earth slingshot out of its path? >inb4 you just call me a retard
Logan Barnes
Typo: Not likely, kikery*
Julian Murphy
>adding capslock EMPHASIS to an incredibly STUPID argument makes it a little LESS stupid
neato
Jaxon Sanders
Before anyone answers, is this question supposed to be sarcasm? I'm actually confused.
Brody Rodriguez
>"dust" moves like on earth >n-no it acts like it would in a vacuum Why doesn't it act like it would with the moon's gravity instead of earth? That much kinetic force should send the dust flying quite a distance out at that amount gravity.
Joshua Hughes
>Astrophysicist here. Muslim here, Mohammed is the final prophet
John Bell
Nothing sarcastic about it you disingenuous kike.
Wyatt King
Look at the 8-second mark. That dust flies much higher than it would in Earth gravity from just that small kick.
Lucas Evans
I know it sounds stupid but to all moonlanding deniers, play some Kerbal space program, it visualises pretty well how a moonlanding is possible. if you have a powerfull enough rocket. And Saturn V had enough energy to do it, you can do the math.
Luis Green
No it doesn't. Your attempts to gaslight are rather pathetic desu
Joseph Roberts
>Why doesn't it act like it would with the moon's gravity instead of earth? That much kinetic force should send the dust flying quite a distance out at that amount gravity. Gravity is 1/6th there. Not 1/100th.
David Reyes
> Astrophysicist here. You people calling it "fake" are idiot conspiracy theorists. Christian here. You people denying Jesus was the Son of God are idiot heretics
The only mission to use a slingshot was Apollo 13. Maybe our "astrophysicist" bong friend can correct me, but they way I understand it is that the angle Apollo approaches the moon ensures that even with no engine firings, the spacecraft will simply be flung around the moon and back to earth. It's what's known as a "free-return trajectory". Typical operations had the CSM fire its engine on the far side of the moon to slow the spacecraft down into a semi-circular orbit.
Its sounds stupid but it isnt. But here you go. WHY, WHY would the USA fake the moonlanding with the USSR having no clue about it (with the KGB, spy satellites and capturing radio communication.)
Camden Williams
% of earth's gravity >>dust moves about as far as it would on earth >Try harder. He's not moving very quickly in the video, idiot. Dust would not fly that far on earth with the same speed of motion of the person.
Carson Powell
Don't you know? j00z have EVERYTHING to gain from faking white men, led by Nazi scientists landing on the moon.
Landon Johnson
yeah the one at :04 is particularly telling, it's practically horizontal with no loss from air resistance. doesn't look like earth to me
Levi Wilson
Bart Sibrel, needs urgent financial help, if you've got it. He takes paypal. He's been screwed over by the US social security who have cut his pension because of an alleged 'over payment' at the same time they closed down his advertising revenue from Ad words and youtube.
We would never have got the reel 'not public dissemination' of the Apollo 11 crew faking being half way to the moon, when still in earth's orbit
>If it would be fake the soviets would call it out. Great Grain Robbery 1972
Connor Johnson
>disproves argument >ignored by thread because it doesn't confirm bias Thanks for posting it at least. Maybe someone learned something from it.
Cameron Long
>the only mission to use a slingshot was Apollo 13 Incorrect, and also even if correct (which it isn't, but that doesn't matter) the problem still persists. If slingshot maneuvers work then they should work on all orbital paths including when the moon is swinging around the Earth toward's the sun's gravitational pull. Your malfunction in logic regarding this is that you take gravity to be a real thing and thus gloss over the inconsistencies it introduces to the model. My point in bringing up the slingshot maneuver wasn't even about disproving the moon landing, which is obviously fake in quite a number of ways, but in pointing out how ridiculous gravity is.
Logan Phillips
that's not what's meant by first attempt. they mean testing way before you strap a man into a rocket. Apollo 10 wasn't testing.
Blake Nelson
USSR fakes its space shit too. They all fake it. The USSR knew the USA was faking it and the USA knew the USSR was faking it too. They were cooperating throughout the entire cold war which was only a war to prepare globalism and not a serious war they ever intended to fight about capitalism and communism. This is why the USSR just gave up. The new era of globalism was ready and that very year George H. Bush gave his famous new world order speech.
Blake Murphy
You actually think that none of us have played with loose dirt before?
Michael Cruz
lol impossible for technology to go backwards? You fucking retard.
Do you understand machine code? Do you understand the basic fundamental principles behind engineering an aqueduct? Technology requires knowledge to be passed on. It is not some magical societal unlock like a fucking video game.
The moon landing happened and anyone who questions it can go look at the shit we left on the moon and then tell me it was left there by the fucking ayyyys if they are still too stupid to believe it actually happened.
Holocaust is fake as fuck, USA and USSR we're full on board with that shit. To this day even.
James Barnes
Everyone go watch "a funny thing happened on the way to the moon".
The space programs were faked so Israel could steal all the nuclear material we sent to "space". How many nukes do they have now? How much was stolen over the years?
Nolan Reed
>Incorrect, and also even if correct (which it isn't, but that doesn't matter) the problem still persists. If slingshot maneuvers work then they should work on all orbital paths including when the moon is swinging around the Earth toward's the sun's gravitational No. Because the distance between the bodies matters. That's like the only thing that determines gravitational pull and how all these bodies dance in the sky. You cannot ignore that factor when it is the most basic factor of all.
Jordan Ross
>You actually think that none of us have played with loose dirt before? You can go outside right now, throw some dirt at that speed and you will not find that type of arc.
Gabriel Ortiz
You mean the lunar reflectors that don't reflect any better than the surface of the moon?
Noah Brooks
Hokay then. The moon DOES get pulled towards the sun all the time, just like Earth does. The moon’s max orbiting distance from earth is about 250,000 miles. The earth’s orbit is 9,250,000 miles from the sun. So the maximum difference for the moon = 500,000 / 9250000 = 0.0540540540541. One half of one percent of the gravitational pull. So the Earth's gravity always overwhelms the Sun's pull because of the distance.
Parker Ortiz
You disingenuous little cunt. then barney-style it for me. How is Apollo 10 not a test? The equipment they used had never been tried in the environment the mission took place in.
Imagine in no one else completed the flight of Lindbergh across the Atlantic 50 years later. That's what's happened with the moon, despite other nations trying in earnest.
>The moon landing happened and anyone who questions it can go look at the shit we left on the moon It would be nice if the Chinese Chang'e 3 released the HD footage proving independently beyond doubt the presence of the Apollo artefact, otherwise you're just taking it on good faith.
Jacob Bailey
the footage is slowed down retard
Isaiah Rivera
>the distance between the bodies matters Yes, of course, so when the moon is moving toward the sun in its orbit around the earth it isn't closer to the sun. Right. Also, the sun which has enough gravity to hold the earth's 66,600 mph orbit isn't strong enough to influence the moon. Gravity is magical after all and does what the model dictates instead of operating under any sort of logic.
Eli Evans
>incorrect >even if correct the state of flat-earthers today.
Leo Cox
Pathetic attempt at gaslighting desu
Justin Smith
Kek this
Ethan Richardson
>implying the moon is a physical place you can go to
Cooper Reed
I will accept your concession of defeat.
Aiden Lee
>>the distance between the bodies matters >Yes, of course, so when the moon is moving toward the sun in its orbit around the earth it isn't closer to the sun. Right. Also, the sun which has enough gravity to hold the earth's 66,600 mph orbit isn't strong enough to influence the moon. Gravity is magical after all and does what the model dictates instead of operating under any sort of logic. Both the earth and the moon are rotating about the sun. The moon is just also rotating around the earth.
Christian Moore
>it does happen, just slight, because these numbers that don't follow any demonstrable logic say so
Lincoln King
What the fuck are you talking about user? Nasa could send astronauts further than the moon if they wanted too
Jeremiah Cruz
>First attempt
Do you know why the number 11 came after the name Apollo?
And before Apollo there was also Mercury and Gemini programs.
Unlike the Soviet N1 program, NASA spent a lot of time taking iterative steps to get to the Moon. The Soviets just went “build giant rocket with a shit ton of engines and don't bother testing those engines and plumbing before doing a first flight”.
Brayden Brooks
>the footage is slowed down retard No because sometimes his body moves quickly.
Oliver Long
why don't they send a drone with HD video camera over the surface?
inb4 the LRO data stuff I mean real video footage like flying over a city with full 5k video?
Easton Williams
Okay. What percentage? Let's try it.
Jace Long
An US guys says says "the USSR just gave up". I wish. Simply, no. You can look a 24/7 livestream from the ISS, most modern rocket starts. hundred thousands people were in both space programs and only a few unknown retards say its fake to get attention. Also why would it be impossible. If you say that you would need to claim space is fake, or rocketry is impossible. You would also declare most of 20th century faked, to say it all happened to get globalism. If so, shoot yourself. Death is fake too, trust me. Jewish trickery to make you use their medicine. 100% you cant proof me wrong unless you do it.
Aiden Lee
what does God have against left handed people? am I going to hell?
William Bennett
I’m not sure I understand your criticism. He’s pointing out you are fractally wrong by his estimation.
Jayden Turner
the moon landing was filmed by (((stanley kubrick))).
You fucking idiot. There were several Apollo moon missions before 11 that tested the systems to land on there moon. Apollo 10 was the final dress rehearsal. Stay seething jealous limey.
Joshua Cook
>The moon is not rotating. It's in orbital lock. I meant orbiting.
Hunter Hernandez
>when the notoriously corrupt world shit themselves because the United States never gave up their guns and then elected Trump for president to fight back against the globalists and then all the countries around the world become inspired because of America and then they start fighting back too. OP being a faggot and should have put this shit thread in /sci/
Matthew Torres
That clip still cracks me up. Comparing the lander launching back into orbit around the moon and the relative mass and fuel needed.... To the whole apollo fucking rocket. Apparently from the moon u can sit on a 5 gallon bucket with a hand grenade under it and make it back to earth.
Leo Peterson
who filmed the lander taking off? not controlling an camera like that from earth automated tracking?
John Wright
>No demonstrable logic.
F = Gm1m2/r2
Ayden Collins
Lol you can get a telescope and see the mirrors and flags left on the moon as proof. Cope harder