How would a taxless society even function? It's a fucking pipe dream. I'm all for individual liberty but taxes are necessary to maintain a society since people can't be relied on to willingly voluntarily contribute.
How would a taxless society even function? It's a fucking pipe dream...
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Many things are possible in a white society. Fair taxation being one of them. 10% flat tax, done.
Government owns some of the means of production and uses the profits to fund the government.
>taxes are necessary to maintain a society since people can't be relied on to willingly voluntarily contribute.
Try selling something people want to pay for instead of starting with "give me your money."
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America did just fine running the government off tariffs and excise.
>willingly voluntarily contribute
To what? Buying new mansions for politicians, bankers and state-financed business owners?
Defense is a hard nut to crack in a stateless society, i'll admit that, but for anything else, why would taxes be needed?
no. you tax away the free lunch
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taxes aren't bad when they inprove your life like roads schools healthcare
It would function just fine as long as people add value and aren't degenerates
You in 1902:
>How would air travel even function? It's a fucking pipe dream. I'm all for innovation, but.......stop wanting to change how things are. I happen to like trains!!!!!!
You in 2019:
>How would a taxless society even function? It's a fucking pipe dream. I'm all for individual liberty but taxes are necessary to maintain a society since people can't be relied on to willingly voluntarily contribute.
You have no fucking idea how it would or wouldn't work, since we've never tried anything like it.
Based, go back to the days when federal govt was 2-4% government spending. Most spending should be local and state anyways. The Fed should spend 95% of it money on the military, border controls and other defense mechanism.
Lol shut the fuck up leaf, as if 40% to 50%+ taxes justify those things (being completely pothole ridden roads, education where the state indoctrinates your kid on there being 20 genders and healthcare where it takes 6+ months to see a 'specialist' for anything) fuck off
Many ways.
> relegate tasks currently taken on by government to private businesses
> reorganize government into a private business that offers to sell its services for money, rather than taxing people just because
As it stands now, government is one giant moneymaking scheme. It involves giving money for nothing in return, and in some cases holding monopolies on industries and forcing you to pay for them whatever exorbitant rate they tax you on.
You dumb fucking Leaf. Lurk moar. Must be 18 to post. Etc.
if you privatize all the government revenue streams the government has to raise new taxes to do anything.
stop being stupid
Based.
What does the government NEED to do that private organizations cannot do, and do better?
you don't even count
If a group of people need a road in a certain place, they should pool their money to fund the road, and not forcing people who don't need it to pay for it. Just pay for something you need voluntarily.
government can provide electric water roads at cost. private wants more profit every year
No this is not how it works, they have 10 - 14% sales tax on top of everything at the till too. come see how things are done in a proper non degenerate society. Private sector allocates time and resources way more efficiently than any government
It's pretty simple. The only complex things are national defence and contract enforcement. But those are already shaky even with our giant goverments right now. The US as it originally was was close. Definitely the best humans have managed yet. It's been a 300 year spiral into socialism unfortunately but the constitution is still *kinda* holding up. For now.
That’s called a natural monopoly, it’s the same reason the government builds the roads. It’s a very small percent of our economy though.
Are you kidding me? You think the crowns operate cost? Are you honestly this stupid? When is the last time your electricity bill went down or didn't increase - despite almost everyone adopting far less energy consuming appliances?
cool flag, at first I thought it was Moldova
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How did the USA survive up until 1913 when the current income tax system was introduced? I don't know, it's a mystery
How did Canada survive up until 1947 without national healthcare?
The money for roads comes from vehicle registrations and gas tax. This is fine, we need to take back control of the country and update the constitution so this socialist bullshit doesn’t happen again.
it was cheap
doctors weren't trying to maximize profits to the point of bankrupting their patients
how much do you think an aspirin cost in a us hospital? $10-20 40?
a cast would probably cost as much as a good used car
I bet the money for vehicle registrations and gas tax tire tax goes into general revenue so you can hide where it goes
>taxes are payed locally, then another tax is payed nationally
>local tax is for your region and it's used for road and infrastructure
>national tax is for school, military and state employees
Welfare is given from the church and only to disabled people that can't work. Homeless can go to local church to work and provided food and shelter with possible reintegration.
Niggers not working and standing around doing nothing in train station get immediatly put to jail /slave labour.
Niggers coming in boats get shot from the navy.
what province are you in?
America didn't have income tax until 1913, it was implemented in order to pay Jews interest for the money they sell us. Also in 1913, we gave Jews the exclusive right to print our money and sell it back to the federal government.
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>I'm all for individual liberty but taxes are necessary to maintain a society since people can't be relied on to willingly voluntarily contribute.
Taxes aren't necessary to maintain a business. So why are they needed to maintain a government? Why can't governments go into business? Why steal?
Child labour
why do you think the 1% are buying the water sewer electric roads ? it not out of the goodness of their harts
they want to make as much profit as they can.
A modern country probably couldn't do it. But a while ago it could have happened.
North Korea is a taxless society. Maybe libertarians would enjoy living there.
>How would a taxless society even function?
It wouldnt work at all
>It's a fucking pipe dream
Correct
Lol the lowest taxed societies are often the most well managed and best maintained. See Singapore, Monaco, Liechtenstein, etc. and don't parrot the most typical talking point, yes we're low population and a small land mass, and yes that's what makes it work. Not just anyone can waltz in
Tariffs from foreigners.
Worked so well, they didn't know what to do with all the surplus cash.
No, you are tax havens. Also Singapore is a police state built upon cheap foreign labor.
Healthcare is dysgenic and public schooling fucks up normal family dynamics.
10% flat tax and tax on degenerate shit.
Pretty much this
>muh roads
20% tariff. It would bring in about 500 billion. Enough for self defense. Get rid of all gibs. 300 hundred for military. 50 billion for border patrol. The rest for miscellaneous stuff. Economic prosperity ensured.
Just imagine a society without extortion where everyone has to earn a living. A dream for some and a nightmare to others.
it's like when the rural areas demand internet.
the internet providers don't wanna pay for the infrastructure so they get the government to pay for it
Turning millions of unproductive government employees into productive employees would be a huge boon to the country.
sure we are, just like dubai and quatar, which are much to artificial for my liking. May not be the best examples, but in general as long as people contribute to society and don't leech, it's 100% possible and more prosperous than welfare states. If the land land mass doesnt require all the upkeep, or a large defence force. something like a quasi Luxembourg or how Switzerland was a few decades ago
Most government employees are spics and niggers too. They provide no economic value and their “jobs” are just another form of gibs.
Isn’t this guy a Marxist?
yeah but not in the american sense. americans think marx was the leader of the communist party
comunism was fringe when marx was alive
This. That's how all fascist societies operate with the State being controlled by 'blood and soil' meaning only taxes on imports, nothing exported is taxed, therefore if everyone is homogeneous to the Nation, everyone benefits. The problem is holding the people in control accountable ie the president and military elite and top rank. If you look at all socialist countries they end up shit holes because 1. They're usually nigger countries 2. (((Foreign))) investors buy out the politicians in control. That's why democratic socialism never works and why most fascist regimes fail. If the international bankers/globalist put one of their own in power.
>Nigger tier OP: Washington DC and states around the country do such a great job with taxes as they promise illegals tax payer funded healthcare in an effort to pander to Hispanic voters
You goddamn morons will justify giving a significant portion of your income the government no matter what they do with the money
marx took the classical economist to the logical conclusion.
he was the last of the classical economists
Have fun paying for your own personal fibre connection, water line and roads vs large scale civil projects
Obviously everyone is being tax-raped atm, but a completely free market is as much an idea only good on paper as communism is
So is the solution labor backed currency?
or barter got to find a way to keep all the middle men out
you gotta at least tax the shit outta this motherfucker to the points it not worth it to rip people off
because that all he did
Infrustrucure spending by the govt is less then 3% of gdp and is mostly done by state and local governments. Entitlement spending is over 15% of GDP.
Communism isn't 'good on paper' though.
if you can get people to work for food rent and bills it's not that different from slavery
chicago parking meters privatization is a perfect example of the scam
We didn't get taxed for years and even some stuff were supported. This place was much better without tax meme.
if you had slaves now would you provide them with free internet and cable tv?
government actually functions best when it doesn't exist
Make a website for donations for government projects, when ever something needs to be done, like paving a road, or funding the police department in a city, the people who want or need it can donate, if they do not donate enough, it doesn't get done. Let people vote for everything with their own money.
Based. Lawlessness is best.
The US government used to be funded solely by just tariffs on imported goods.
>law can only exist with government
yeah then land and now labour of all things. they've gone full retard
The war of independence was about a 2% tax on tea. Honestly I'd be fine with Americans if their country was still based on the principles of 1776 but they're just as much faggots as everyone else for the state their country is in now.
>How would a taxless society even function?
Can you imagine such a thing???
>Who would pay for Jamal and Leroy's welfare checks?
>Who would pay for the welfare, healthcare, and education of all the illegal alien children that Consuela shat out on American soil?
>Who would pay the massive over-inflated government salaries?
>Who would pay for the black budget military that serves the best interests of Israel?
>Who will pay the over-inflated salaries of the secret police Stassi at the NSA who illegally spy on every single man, woman, and child in America--and then when they're outed by someone like Snowden, lie to Congress and get away with it?
>Who will pay for the "big government" that Comrade Obama had a hand in setting up?
>Who will give trillions of shekels to Israel every year?
Can you imagine such a thing as a taxless society where the average American isn't getting fucked by the government and their puppet masters in Israel?
that's what the right and libertarians say
just the parts they need to protect wealth tho
police military and courts
I think the income tax scheme was brought in as an “temporary emergency” measure to fund World War One. It was a relatively small rate that was imposed on wealthy earners.
Is there an accountant in the house that could tell us the history of the income tax?
the west has too many parasites on the economy
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Frankly it doesn't. Some taxes will need to be collected to fund the police, fire stations, basic infrastructure repair, etc. unless you go full lolbert. However what would work is not having a double and triple dipping tax system. Tax ONE thing, tax it properly, leave everything else the fuck alone.
why can't those things be done without funding them by theft tho
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The government would operate it's own for-profit businesses and make enough money to support it's own functions.