/Pol? ive denied it too long, but im ready to become woke on the Jewish Question

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

/Pol? ive denied it too long, but im ready to become woke on the Jewish Question.

I wanna start with what is the Talmud, and why its so hard to get information online about it, and how does it dictate jewish culture and life.

Please teach me pol

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Hunter Harris
Hunter Harris

start here:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/Talmud General/

Christopher Bailey
Christopher Bailey

This is a more accurate search term:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject//TG/ - Talmud General/

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

The Zohar is the best of Jewish literature

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

bump for interest

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

check out Exodus 3:22 of the Torah. they just do as their god instructs them.

Justin Watson
Justin Watson

Talmud is an encyclopedia of Jewish Rabbis argueing up to about 200 A.D. average Jews don't care too much about it but it has influenced their culture heavily even if they don't read it because the community is Built around it

Connor Ortiz
Connor Ortiz

the exodus story in the bible was a fabrication and made to cover up what really happened:
Expulsion not Exodus
sites.google.com/site/ebreicredentiingesu/Home/hyksos-are-jews
archive.is/0Uvdr
book sources:
T. Saeve-Soederbergh, in: Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, 37 (1951), 53–71
A.H. Gardiner, Egypt of the Pharaohs (1961), 155–73
S.R.K. Glanville (ed.), The Legacy of Egypt (1963), 219–21
M.A. Murray, The Splendour that was Egypt (1964), 26–32
D. Redford, Egypt, Canaan and Israel in Ancient Times (1992)
D. Redford and J. Weinstein, in: ABD, 3:341–48 (extensive bibliography)
A. Rainey, in: BASOR, 295 (1994), 81–5
C. Redmount, in: BA, 58 (1995), 182–90
E. Oren (ed.), The Hyksos: New Historical and Archaeological Perspectives (1997) COS II, 5–7

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

Go read it if you like it so much, you'll need to learn Hebrew first tho

Nicholas Ramirez
Nicholas Ramirez

Don't care much about it? It's the only scripture they do care about. They sure as shit don't follow the Torah in the slightest.

Luis Cooper
Luis Cooper

Hey kike

Ayden Barnes
Ayden Barnes

Who was that priest that died in the holocaust defending jews and later got labelled an anti semite?

Noah Walker
Noah Walker

Based leaf
Something's awefully wrong in the matrix today.

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Cameron Davis
Cameron Davis

Try finding information that is not bias or propaganda in regards to Zohar and Kabbalah.

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David Wilson
David Wilson

There's tushba ( oral tradition) lessons in high school , they include parts of the various mishnas and talmuds

Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

Lemme guess, there's a proverb that says you cannot translate the Torah in other languages accurately?

Nathan Torres
Nathan Torres

Pretty much the same reason why we all can say christianity is bullshit if it's not based on the KJV. And this is still a long shot considering the KJV is a translation from sanskrit.

Michael Turner
Michael Turner

Not really I've just never seen a good translation. No one put an effort into producing a proper translation because people who study this know Hebrew.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

Did the Jews really rape Middle Eastern kids back in the day? (kethuboth 11b)

Logan Rogers
Logan Rogers

The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
That's not true. The Torah - the Five Books of Moses is Judaism's "holiest" book.
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
It never talks about a "Jew", and it never refers to him being "tempted". It refers to a stage where a person has already been overcome by his evil inclination, and the only question is whether he will sin publicly, or privately in a place where he is not known. The latter is the lesser of the two evils, as at least he does not become a bad example for others to follow. The Gemarrah explained that someone who acted this way died, and could not be buried near the righteous. Obviously it is not recommending it, just attempting damage control.
Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men").
Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai alone makes the statement that non-Jews are not considered in the laws of impurity - therefore a priest can touch a non-Jewish corpse without being defiled. It nowhere states that non-Jews are not human, or that only Jews are human.

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Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

Berakoth 58a: Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").
It says that anyone who sees a non-Jewish wise man should bless G-d for giving His wisdom to all his creatures (not just Jews). Anyone who sees a non-Jewish king should bless G-d for giving His glory to all his creatures (not just Jews). Someone should run to see a king, whether Jewish or non-Jewish. These are not misinterpreted quotes by individual Rabbis, this is what Judaism believes, as it was brought down in Jewish law and can be found in almost any prayerbook.
Having said that, Berachot 58a also records one individual sage (Rabbi Shila) referring to an ancient Egyptian woman as a she-ass. It does NOT generalise to Gentile women in the least, and was probably a reaction to the suffering the Jews had undergone at the hands of the ancient Egyptians.
Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
Nowhere does it say that Jews are divine. In the opinion of one individual Rabbi, Rabbi Hanina, not the Talmud, a non-Jew who hits a Jew is worthy of death by the Hand of G-d - there is no room whatsoever for a Jew to kill him. That is what is written in Sanhedrin 58b. A Jew who hits a Jew, by comparison, is called wicked and excluded from Jewish communal life until he apologises (eg. can't be counted in a Minyan [Mininum size group of 10 men required for communal prayer.]) which is likewise a form of spiritual death. Therefore there is no discrimination.

Aiden Bennett
Aiden Bennett

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
A Jew must certainly pay a Cuthean the wages owed him for work. But because not paying is not the same as stealing, it is not actionable in a Jewish court. That is what is written in Sanhedrin 57a. Worlds apart from sanctioning robbery (and besides, one would expect the non-Jew to be able to make a claim in a non-Jewish court.)
Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
The next page (38a) says that the context applies to nations which do not recognize the laws of Noah in Genesis, chapter 9. In particular, Canaanites did not recognize that there should be payment in such situations. Such payments should only be made to members of goyim that do have such laws.
I suspect that the passage in question was aimed at the Romans. In this case, there is a clear difference between Judaism and the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus quite clearly said that we should treat our enemies the same way we treat our friends. When large numbers of people were convinced of this, the result was to hand more power over to Rome than before.
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Found objects do not have to be returned when they are lost under circumstances that make the owner impossible to identify. This also applies to objects lost by Jews in crowded areas --- as you would know had you actually read the passage in question instead of pasting it in from a National Socialist web site.

Noah Taylor
Noah Taylor

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.
Misquote. That's a theoretical point that is being raised and subsequently rejected. Naturally, [the quote] "forgets" to mention the latter part.
Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
In the real world the discussion is about whether capital punishment may be imposed --- not about whether it is forbidden. Again, this only applies to nations which reject the laws of Noah.
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
This is one of the most obvious pieces of out-of-context blather it has ever been my pleasure to refute. The context is evading a thief. Yes, you are permitted to lie to a robber --- in particular a crooked tax collector.
Further down the same page, it not only says that robbing gentiles is prohibited, it even discusses the derivation of the prohibition.
Here, we have gone beyond going out of context and have entered the realm of deliberate falsification.
Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals.
False. It does not say this.
What is at issue in this passage is the status of the children of a Gentile woman who converts to Judaism. Essentially, it finds a legal loophole which makes it clear that her children will carry no stigma from having had an uncircumcised father.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
The Sages suspected that the nations of Babylon and Rome were heavily into bestiality, and the 20th century historians back them up.
In any case, it was this issue which the Talmud presented as the reason for discouraging Jewish children playing with Babylonian or Roman children they feared they would end up partners in their neighbors' immorality.

Kayden Brown
Kayden Brown

Far worse according to their own jewishpedia.

They had been doing all kind of nefarious things with children since time inmemorial.

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Lincoln Lee
Lincoln Lee

It's good to see people actually defending their faith instead of leaving misinformation to spread more. Kudos!

Aiden Smith
Aiden Smith

Damage control. Quit lying

Brody Gray
Brody Gray

Yebamoth 60b:
It was taught: r. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it is said, But all the women children that have non known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves., and Phinehas surely was with him.

Sanhedrin 55b:
A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cobhabits with her, she becomes his.

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Caleb Green
Caleb Green

There was an odd emphasis in the old testament about fellow Jews being able to to avoid murder charges by hiding their brethren from prosecution.

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

Here's a start

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Noah Perez
Noah Perez

No one is strictly following the Talmud in or out of context that has any real impact on your life.

Jaxon Parker
Jaxon Parker

If you want to learn more, go to your local synagogue and ask nicely to read whatever you want to read. Then, ask a rabbi about whatever you like regarding your reading. It really is that easy instead of looking up obviously biased information on Jow Forums of all places.

Nathan Adams
Nathan Adams

Kethuboth 11b
When a grown-up man has intercourse with a littler girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this, (6) it is as if one puts the finger into the eye;
(6) I.e., tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come back to the little girl under three years

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Jack Walker
Jack Walker

why its so hard to get information online about it,
Because it’s completely irrelevant to anyone who doesn’t follow Jewish law. so it’s incredibly boring.

Apart from some overblown portions about Gentiles and Christians, it’s completely boring. No one cares.

Blake Robinson
Blake Robinson

lol sure
it’s by design
thanks for not using a memeflag tho <3

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

Both have order and chaos in them

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

Good writeups and you site it as well so context can be checked

Nathaniel Bennett
Nathaniel Bennett

and a rabbi isn't biased?
If you go to your pastor with questions or concerns about passages in the Bible they can always explain them away. I'm sure the Rabbi would find some way to explain it away.

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

I have to say though, I've looked up a few of these online and I'm not coming up with these passages. Even in PDF versions of these I can't find the quotes.

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

Lies. You can read it online.
come-and-hear.com/tcontents.html

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