So what is the point with the EU? It seems to me that is a way to enrich Germany while draining everyone else of money

So what is the point with the EU? It seems to me that is a way to enrich Germany while draining everyone else of money.

Sweden pay a fee (net) of ~40 billion sek (400 euro per citizen including kids, shitskins and retirees so tax payers pay a lot more) and we run a trade deficit of more than 200 billion sek per year (1 euro = 10.7 sek).

Why are the Scandinavian countries still in this union? It makes no sense. We just pay them a shitload of cash in fees and then they shut down our factories and move them to Eastern Europe or Germany.

The British were spot on voting no for this shit. Let the French farmers go bankrupt and fuck Germany and their shitty NOx emitting diesel cars they fool us into buying. Volvo rules.

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Fuck the EU hehe

The only good thing about the EU is the schengen line at the airports
Fuck the rest of it though
If that's all I have to lose then good

If the EU falls then China will rule for all eternity

If the EU doesn’t fall we will be the new Brazil.

Are you high on petrol?
China doesn't even have a blue water navy and any conflict it has with the USA will be it's last

Nah it was better before when you got stamps in your passport. Schengen made travelling boring.

But if you were outside it the taxes, tarries, non tariff barriers and paperwork would cis st you far more.

It isn’t the EU’s fault thst you don’t make anything that other people want to buy.

Or thst you buy shit you don’t need...

Thr UK will loose massively - they have already lost more per week tha they paid into the EU as their trade is already collapsing, and EU based customers are seeking Eu suppliers because of Brexit uncertainty. If they go out with no deal,they will be utterly fucked, and plunge into recession, with massive job losses.

It really is better to be ina trade union than outside trying to get in. (Why do all those countries not in the Eu want in? Why did you want in in the first place? Because outside is poverty and hard work...)

The EU is nothing but a degenerate bureaucracy full of incompetent, lazy and even evil people.

how about just wait a couple of years and see how great uk and the pound is going to be...

Last time I checked that trade unions dont have armies, Censorship, and import niggers and arabs

Because "democracy" is not representing the people.

>So what is the point with the EU?
To make shitty countries better and to make great countries shit.
And when they're all at the same level they'll be all multicultural mongrel under the EU legislative bureaucratic chain.

Fuck the EU

The Eu doesn’t have an army, I am not sure what you mean about censorship, and they didn’t import people - people turned up in droves and they agreed not to ship them back (which was a mistake) but which also helped to make the economy grow and is providing Germany in particular with much needed labour.

A good case study is the old tires manufacturer Gislaved Tires (anno 1893). Following Sweden joining the EU it was bought up by Continental Ag (using printed Euros of course). Continental then shut down Gislaved’s factory and moved production to Portugal, Germany and Romania, using EU subsidies.

And that’s the EU scam in a nutshell. And this happens every day in Sweden. Corporations move our factories to Eastern Europe and Germany using EU subsidies.

It is not that we want your worthless products. You force us to buy it by giving us no alternatives.

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You will never understand euro lad

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Now we know you're a shill , a brainwashed fool or an immigrant .

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> corporations made good financial decisions
> it is the aeu’s Fault

You don’t understand either economics or what the EU does, do you?

Your uneconomical factory got bought up and shut down, before it went bankrupt. Booo hooo.

Not the EUs fault.

Jingoistic rubbish.

Enjoy your isolation, poverty and decline. Enjoy your forthcoming subjugation by every large power who wants t kick you. Enjoy being America’s bitch. And revel in the fact that in ten years time you will be begging to get back I tot he Eau but you will get a far worse deal, pay more, and have to adopt the euro...

Enjoy our massive recession. Then learn that without economic success, there is no freedom. You have no choices when you are poor.

Kalergi plan. Kalergi prize. EU exists to genocide whites and turn us into brown consumers, it's that simple. Anything else is just headcanon

The only thing Farage was right about was getting an EU passport fo his kids.

He doesn’t want them to suffer the disadvantages he will impose on you while he makes millions out of his hedge fund trades...

Their navy is growing extremely fast
In 20 years they will have the largest navy in the world

People don’t want to leave the EU because they like being dominated by an anti-white increasingly federalised superstate which is veering towards hardline socialism. Not to mention the EU’s absolute lust for African migrants.

Or maybe in 10 years...

EU is to Europe what London is to the UK.

Reminder that anti-EU posters are exclusively paid Putin or (((/PTG/))) shills.

You realise there are more countries in the world to trade with than those in the EU right? We’re going to be just fine and if need be we will just become a tax haven. EU is dying and france will die along with it if you dont leave also.

>So what is the point with the EU?

It was first to contain the Eastern Block. Now its to contain German hegemony. and it works.

>t. brainwashed leftist

Do you seriously expect China to invest in their navy at the current pace for 20 years straight?

So that just make EU A virus that needs to be exterminated.

I bet we're going to see quite a lot of this since their campaign for Brexit bore fruit.

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>poverty and hard work

a good life is a hard life user

No, but they could

American, huh?

I truly hope you get killed today.

>a good life is a hard life user

You must have a very good life.

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Yes I'd much rather live in Cornwall than Inner London

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Eu is growing, and becoming richer and more infrastructure and better integration

Uk tax haven - great, the hedge fund boys will of course be happy to give all their profits to the masses of unemployed people who have no jobs in manufacturing or exports... they will be happy to divert their billions to the help of their fellow countrymen... oh no, actually they will be non Dom’s, living in Monaco, and not paying any tax at alll...

And as for those other countries - yes, through the EU we have trade agreements with. OST of them, which took years of skilled negotiations and expensive legal detailed drafting to achieve. Leave and you loose all that, and have to not only pay for the years of negotiations with the Eu to establish the new deal, it also years of negotiations with each and every one of those countries whic you already trade with under EU treaty.

It will cost a fortune, and be very disruptive - and WTO rules will be awful to trade under. Why do you think people make trade agreements an join unions?

>and we run a trade deficit of more than 200 billion sek per year (1 euro = 10.7 sek).
You run a trade deficit with the EU or with everyone else?

The EUSSR is there to terrorize nations into submission to their sick commumist agenda of a mutt europe filled with degenercy. Merkel was a KGB agent before she became "democrat" , the EUSSR has commisars and demands every country follows the rules establishes in brussles no matter if you agree or not. Its litterally a commie shithole because the west lost the war on merchants.

>It seems to me that is a way to enrich Germany while draining everyone else of money.

I fail to see the problem here.

> someone who has never run an export business

Lol. Proud capitalist here, who knows the value of a common market

Durham isnt poor. There maybe some poor areas in durham. But there are fucking multi million £ mansions there.

t. I live in north east.

If you want to talk about poor then look at blyth holy shit

>Durham isnt poor.
It is.
>look at blyth
I won't.

Bet you are rich. Bet you won’t give a shit for the poor who you are fucking over.

Main reason was nationalistic. You see the Germans didn’t want to close German plants, and there was an oversupply in factories.

The same thing happened with the french owned Michelin factory in Kungsälv. They closed it to protect the French factories.

Imagine being this level of retarded. Norway? Switzerland? I'm not saying they are utopias. I'm saying they are not part of EU but are still functional and way better functional countries than any country part of EU because they are not getting fucked in the ass by kikes in Brussel daily.

Well you are a nasty little shit aren’t you..

What a sad and pathetic creature you are.

Rather a free man and poor than a rich slave.

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>the EU is against exploitative capitalism

I think you're a little confused user

How dumb are you? They're are non-members in name only. In reality they're bound to the EU by countless treaties and even contribute to the EU budget.

Why are Jow Forumstards so dumb, so uninformed? Why are they allowed to vote?

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> there was oversupply but this does not matter because I don’t know anything about economics...

Also nothing to do with the EU.

It isn’t

You should.

Actually they are just as fucked as you, the difference is that they don't get any of the benefits. Yes you can opt for something like a Norway kind of deal but you still have to follow every single regulation of the EU if you want access to its market, as they do. Maybe you want to use a country that's not forced to follow EU regulations as example? I'll give you a few minutes to research.

Yeah Farage and co say that because they are rich. They will be richer, more powerful and able to enslave you further.

If they thought they were going to be poor, they wouldn’t want out.

I shan't and you're too poor to make me.

Down with germany! Down with the EU!


Hahahaha cretin

just a way for German elites to dominate in concert with other Euro elites.
this technocracy solves the recurring problem of Germany wanting to take over Europe by force and shackles Germany into power sharing with France.

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>reee look how poor the UK is
>If they thought they were going to be poor, they wouldn’t want out.

you people really are confused

Seriously, what do,you think the UK will gain?

>So what is the point with the EU?
It's purpose was to create less restrictions between the European countries instead it became a safe haven for NGO monopolies. Watch the documentary Brüssel Business

>all the poorest regions are in the UK
>wow hasn't the EU been great for us!

hoisted on your own petard mate

The EU. Basically German and French companies buy up Swedish factories and then they close the Swedish factories and move production to France/Germany or Eastern Europe. We have a big surplus with the US (they are less nationalistic than French/Germans so they prefer for instance Volvo than low quality products like Renault).

The idea that Sweden have any trade benefit with the EU is absurd since Germans/French won’t buy foreign products.

Sweden got tricked big time. We need to leave your shitty union fast or there won’t be anything left here. Every factory will be bought up and moved to Germany/France. I mean you even have paper mills even though you have to import all that timber from Sweden. That’s how bad things are.

The sweet pleasure of upsetting the globalist agenda is enough.

I have spoken to Germans who, when I referred to Merkel and Germany, said words to the effect of "She isn't German, she's East German".

Pretty much this. However we don’t technically contribute to the EU budget, but rather fund selective initiatives and programs. E.g. Eastern European development fund (Cohesion fund), lots of research and development programs, etc.

Are you kidding? Or do you suffer from low IQ? Why not shut down the much more expensive French plants?
Yeah, EU subsidies has nothing to do with the EU, nor the free trade that enables the French to buy and dismantle factories in Sweden and the sell it to us because we have no more factories.

>Now its to contain German hegemony. and it works.
Exactly.
It works perfectly,.don't worry.

>Do you seriously expect China to invest in their navy at the current pace for 20 years straight?
No. They will probably accelerate their pace.

>So what is the point with the EU?
Unity between European nations to prevent brother wars. Its fucking retarded that white nationalists are against this.

Thank you. Yes that’s exactly what it is.

Oh dear reading comprehension isn’t good is it?

The UK will be poorer. But certain individuals will be richer. Rees Mogg for a start. Farage certainly. A good number of Tory backers and MPs. They are rich enough now to be able to position themselves to make money from Brexit, and hope to hide their cash, be a tax haven, and make more money.

The rich will get richer. Thst is whynthe rich back Brexit, and spend millions to propagandise about it.

The poor, thr middle class... manufacturers and service industries... they get shafted

Permanent austerity, and worse.

If the rich, like Farage and Johnson, and Mogg and gove and May, thought that they would,end up poor they would be against it. But they know,they end up with more money and more power - they will take back control - and the poor will be even more easily fucked over.

That is the reality - Brexit is about the rich and powerful wanting more money and power, and convincing the poor to give it to them, and loose money and power.

She doesent act like it though. East-Germans are pretty based and Merkel is full on homoglobo.

> tories fuck over the poor for decades, and the poor still vote for the tories like fucking idiots
> it is the EUs fault

Brainwashed Tory poor fag morons are out in force today.

Yeah sure, keep shopping in Aldi like all other double digit IQ brexiters.

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You get access to the biggest market in the region,have no tariffs imposed on you,free movement of goods,no visa for citizens and easier access of workers.Thats about it in terms of advantages oh and one last thing a common currency but you have not implemented it.

I hope that keeps you warm when they cut off your electricity... when you are homeless jobless and hungry, I hope that keeps you content.

Germany has never been a brother. They just want to dominate and rule. They have an inferiority complex.

>Thinking the (((EU))) is just a common market...

You show me the EU parliament bill mandating those decisions and driving the company to do it, and I will agree it is an EU wrong

You need us to shop at aldi to keep you propped up. Germany is crumbling hahhaa

You realise there is never a more dangerous time when a population is hungry and with idle hands. They would never allow it.

And what else is it that rustles your jimmies so badly? Seriously, name some EU program you really think is evil

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Lol

You think they will care, from their yachts in the Mediterranean?

They don’t need you.

Down with france! Down with the EU!

Haha you think your their brother? You’re a dumb snownigger. The French/Germans are extreme nationalists. They only buy their own stuff. No you are a colony. You exists solely as an export market for French/German mercantilists. They will never lift a finger for your sake. The EU is all about France and Germany.

Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and the rottenschilds are germans

Great argument.

France of course will happily take up the slack and out compete you when you leave...

>End of WW2
>Steel and coal community monopolizes the things needed to rebuild after the war
>forced to join community to get into the market
>market dominance become so big all those around are forced to join not to be excluded
>the EU is born

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>EU lords aren't rich and powerful and don't benefit overwhelmingly from the EU, shafting the lower classess with hordes of aggresive shitskins that they are even unlikely to even meet due to living in gated communities

Your economy is going to collapse when we leave

Why are you expecting arguments from these people?

Jealousy is a powerful thing.

But would you prefer those overloads to be opposed by the governments of many countries, or for your country to simply have agivernment owned by them? The UKwill have no protection from the billionaires currently fund in thr Leave project, and funding thr Tories...

If the EU is so great why are "migrants" leaving France for Dover?

Delusional.

Uk needs France agricultural product. France has massive trade surplus took. Even if you found somewhere else to buy food, it would be a small percentage of our gdp. French can buy their stuff elsewhere in Eu - cutting out a large percentage of your gdp.

Look at the figures and stop believing the lies of Boris and the fact free Leavers.

France will have a little disruption - but the UK will/3 fucked for decades to come.