How can one be vegan when even plants are carnivores?

How can one be vegan when even plants are carnivores?

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Through logical choice.

veganism is for edgy faggots.

Just eat feces, my friends dog eats it so it must be natural right!

I was infertile before I went vegan. I am happy now.

My gf bought me a sandwich yesterday with houllumi cheese, I actually hate cheese but she made the effort to try and get something which looked vegan, as it was with beetroot and things

I said thank you and I ate it but did say, I don't tend to eat cheese as it's dairy so

it's not going to be perfect at first but it's a good thing to strive towards

veganism is a one of many mental illnesses, it's no surprise how it's being promoted

Now you're infertile and with erectile dysfunction. Good job, user.

>actually hate cheese
you are not human.
explain your business on our planet.

I can't touch it, it gives me the creeps

explain
your
business
on
our
planet.

it's a streetshitter memeflag with lactose intolerance, there's nothing to "explain"
a subhuman

>veganism is a one of many mental illnesses
you mean like homosexuality?

Just visiting.

homosexuality, egalitarianism, veganism, yes these are all mental illnesses

>egalitarianism
that is a correct stance because bullets don't care about differing traits.

What makes a horse better than a fish or a bug?
Bugs are people too.

What if you're a homo, vegan & egalitarian at the same time?

people are not and have never been "equal"
mental illness

under the rule of bullets, all flesh is equal.

then you're the perfect product of modern tyrants, a useless impotent piece of trash

People are equal in their capacity to suffer, as are the animals.

Now we could nit pick as perhaps say the depressed person has a greater capacity of melancholy. However primarily we are discussing the capacity to experience pain.

Is there a way to treat that illness?

>why yes I am vegan, how could you tell?

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exhibit A: a memeflag streetshart that's "worth" a 1/10000000 of a european, if even that
don't ever reply to me again, subhuman

I have been skinny my whole life, regardless of diet.

Doesn't matter how much I eat.

Although when I started juicing I put on a little wait and my Mom asked me what happened. It was a healthy weight.

weight*

You're trying too hard.

>veganism
eat meat
>homosexuality
remove all external influences to reset yourself
>egalitarianism
stand on the shoulders of giants and ditch modern commieshit propaganda that's trying to re-invent the wheel

Have you read any Plato?

>h-hav u read p-pulato
I spit in your general direction, streetshit subhuman

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did you read karl marx?

Nah but I know he said that you start with the farmers.

Well I don't think you really understand where the Giants are coming from since you are an asshole

>think of the suffering!
Without pain and suffering, you end up with degenerates like you who think gender is a fucking spectrum and humans shouldn't eat meat.
I'm willing to bet you're aversion to suffering also means you've never touched a barbell in your life...
>Fucking memeflaggots

Well it's Stanford who teach gender is a spectrum.

I used to be a gymnast so I did strength training. I lifted weights last year but moved so I don't have the barbell now.

I would train until I was sick.

Fun fact, natives of Madagascar claim that "devil trees" used to exist there, and they would sacrifice to it as they thought the spirit of their dead kings resided in them.

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Ever done strength training?

Like sitting again a wall for a few minutes pretending you have a chair?

It's more intensive than lifting weights.

Yes, we used to compete, 2 guys at a time and see who lasted longest.
Real strength training means you hit the 'core' lifts; squat, bench, deadlift, standing shoulder press, cleans, and snatches.
On top of this, you cycle through different types of aerobics on different days to keep things interesting. Always do conditioning and speed training after you've burnt your muscles; more test produced and you burn more fat after you've burnt muscle

I'm interested in short bursts of exercise which produce the human growth hormone, do you know about it?

HIIT, yes, that's the style of strength training I used to do. Some days you don't lift but do circuits. Most of the hero wods are like that and they can be brutal. Recommend checking them out if you've never heard of them. Also, show flag

There's a guy on youtube the 40 year old teenager or something?

He does short uphill sprints which he says produce it.

Just eat insects and humans for your protein, bro

I'm Scottish

I'm more of a meritocracy theocratic type of guy politically

Aha! So it's a choice and not a decision? Fucking fruitcake.

Yeah because when I watch the videos of the animals dying it makes me cry, so I don't think it's healthy to participate in.

animals are just plants with different chemical structure, a brain and limbs

Someone posted a thing about someone being cruel to a puppy and it made me feel paralysed inside that I have to be part of this world.

It's hard to believe the horrors

>memeflag commie
>vegetarian
>giant fucking pussy
Yeah, sounds about right. Veganism is a rejection of science and human biology.

I'm not a pussy though.

I stick up for the weak and the vulnerable.

Would you like me to tell you something.

Eat the bugs goy

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You really are though.

>starving yourself
>logical

I'm not starving.

I'm not but it doesn't matter here because you don't even know me.

No they are not. Two people can experience the same series of disastrous events, one person blows their brains out over it the other just pushes through and continues to live life. One person can experience physical pain and they act like like invalids, another person can experience the same pain and you never know they are physically hurting. Does everyone have a breaking point? of course. But, the distance between those breaking points among individuals is vastly different.

If you cut the flesh

are not all mammals sentient to pain?

Show flag faggot.

Why should I show flag when you are on a proxy?

>I stick up for the weak and the vulnerable.

You /are/ the weak and vulnerable. You are such a pussy that you can't even stand the thought of being a part of a machine that kills animals, as if animals are some sacred creatures akin to humans and not literally dumb fucking animals. I'm not saying torturing them is okay, but killing them for food is fine, and only pussies who think that "all living beings have an equal right to life" become vegans. Humans > all other animals, and we need to eat animals to live healthily.

You are entitled to think that.

Vorwa zoukik oep ne proxy zitte vuille sos.

Would you eat any type of meat?

Is a grasshopper's life of the same value as a human?

Ich habe google! Wunderbar

I would choose the life of a human over a grasshopper

Translater isn't going to help you with my dialect faggot.

I wish you wouldn't lie.

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You have an arrogance unique to New Jersey.

Checked and käsepilled.

>samefagging

Come on man.

I wouldn't eat human meat.

What a bizzare and eccentric person you are, memeflaggot.

Would you eat dog or cat?

You're the greatest guru that ever lived. Please write a book of daily wisdoms for our troubling times.

Dogs have lived and helped us for thousands of years don't act like that's the same as a fucking cow.

But

do they feel a cut to the flesh in as much pain as a cow?

What does that have to do with anything?

so are you infact vegan becasue of a natural aversion to that sort of food (meat,dairy)- not a 'logical choice?'

Probably not unless I had no other option, because they are cute and friendly and I have plenty of tastier options.

Don't act like if you were starving for 2 months and were knocking at death's door that you wouldn't cook up Rover though.

Well a dog is equal in capacity to pain as a cow

and you don't cut a dogs throat when it's on the way out, people want to give them as a painless way out as possible.

So it's logically inconsistent

Well I always hated cheese all of my life

but I grew up in a household which ate meat

then I watched Earthlings and had a nervous breakdown which changed my life for the better

Wel, it's logical for him not to eat it if he's biologically intolerant to it.

No. Honor among thieves, honor among predators. In times of plenty, we stick to eating prey.

How is that logically inconsistant?
I never said I just on pain level retard.
Also they don't feel pain the same as a cow, all animals have different level of pain tolerance so the point you are trying to make doesn't even make sense.

So can you tell me the logical difference in compassion for a pig and dog when pigs are said to be of a higher intelligence?

Plants feel pain too numbnuts. You're just a milquetoast utilitarian trying to make the rest of the world as miserable as you. You want to graze like cattle, go sleep in the pasture.

As a doctor it is logically inconsistent to equate pain as superficial for one sentience and not for a sentience with equal capacity for pain.

Shut up you fucking cunt.

Everytime I see and hear about vegans, I really think how much they are flaunting their money.
There is no such thing as a poor vegan.
Every vegan person comes from a somewhat rich background and can afford expensive food.
I mean, poor people have no choice on their dish, they eat whatever they get, be it meat, vegetables, eggs...
Besides the usual hypocrisy (I mean, even their beloved cellphones and computers they use to post vegan bullshit have animal stuff inside them - cholesterol on screens), I see them as a bunch of rich people who had never learnt the first commandment of money - do not flaunt it.
BTW, Every shingle thing has some animal protein in it. It is nigh-impossible to tell whether something is vegan or not
>t. grandad worked in a "cow processing" factory.

And they complain they get oppressed and play the victim. A-ham.
Vegans are radical dissidents from vegetarians influenced by left-wing bullshit.

Pigs aren't smarter, only in some specialised areas and what difference does that make?
It's logical to feel compassian for a dog because they helped us hunting and helped in other various ways so it's evolutionary a good thing to feel something for dogs.
It's retarded to feel anything special for pigs, it has no possitive effect on human society.

So, if a human's life (to you) has more value than a grasshopper's life, does a human's life have more value than a cow's life? how about a dog? What animal is of the same value as a human, or are we at the top?

Yes, they are rich enough to afford planned starvation.

Yes. Pigs are predominantly herbivorous. They eat plants and process those nutrients to be delivered into the waiting mouths of predators. Humans are apex predators. We are omnivores, yes, but so are grizzly bears. Just because you're a dysgenic mutant that can't eat the most delicious food doesn't make you morally justified in limiting the diets of others.