Why did the U.S. side with the bad guys during the Great War?

Why did the U.S. side with the bad guys during the Great War?

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Money and deception

Jews.

Checked

Is this a stealth Kaiserreich thread?

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You did worse than we did, you betrayed an ally.

The japs are fucking stupid and attacked us so we went to war. Also fdr is a jew. That Catholic priest with a radio show that was a Nazi had 1/3 of the country listening to him in the us. That's the real reason we didn't get into the war at first, contrary to what historians say.

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Jews.

They already had a lot of influence in American media and then Balfour deceleration happened between Anglos and Rothschilds

"It is clear that the Zionist idea has in it the most far reaching political possibilities.... We might hope to use it in such a way as to bring over to our side the Jewish forces in America, the East and elsewhere which are not largely, if not preponderantly hostile to us" - Robert Crewe, British Minister of Foreign Affairs.

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Declaration* not deceleration ffs

It's hilarious how bad the us fucked up. Not only did they join ww2 they also defeated Japan.

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Oh shut up, you fucking idiot.
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The germans were aligned with mexico and tried to get them to invade us. WW2 might be forgivable but in WW1 they were asking for it

Both wars were fake. The dead people were real but the instigators financed both sides as usual.

Sinking of RMS lusitania triggered the involvement
but it was engineered to happen one way or another

"The same crowd which manipulated the passage of the income tax and the Federal Reserve System wanted America in the war. J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, "Colonel" House, Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg and the rest of the Jekyll Island conspirators were all deeply involved in getting us involved. Many of these financiers had loaned England large sums of money. In fact, J. P. Morgan & Co. served as British financial agents in this country during World War I.”

“The German government took out large ads in all the New York papers warning potential passengers that the ship was carrying munitions and telling them not to cross the Atlantic on it … Yet the sinking of the Lusitania was used by clever propagandists to portray the Germans as inhuman slaughterers of innocents. Submarine warfare was manufactured into a cause celebre to push us into war."
-Gary Allen, None Dare Call it Conspiracy

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Because you saw that USSR stopped the Blitzkrieg and therefore it will be a war of attrition that Germany wont be able to win. You chose the winning side because you knew you would profit from "helping" them.

They sunk our weapons shipments hidden on a cruise liner. Outside that, people were probably scared of Germany's quick rise and the US and UK had made up by 1900, and they were allied with the French. Also, the whole Kaiser thing was probably distasteful to the American audience.

this was on the books after they realised the pressure being put on america to become involved, "asking for it" is not the way to put it... it was simply a posture to put the americans off the idea

>Great War
>blitzkrieg
>ussr
another stupid nigger
stop masturbating it destroys your brain

>Japan attacks a US Navy base after getting pissy about oil embargoes
>US promptly declares war on Japan, because they fucking attacked us
>Germany declares war on us despite no aggressions between the two countries
>the US responds as they should
>retards on Jow Forums screech about how it was our fault and that we declared war on Germany when we didn’t

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Because Rockafellers secretly packed a passenger ship with munitions and then reported on it like it was an unprovoked act of war when the Germans sank it.
By the time it was proven that the ship was delivering weapons it was to late.

We had just fought a war with mexico why would it be "posturing"

america had a sizable german speaking populace still at this time and most people were certainly not in favour of becoming entangled in europes war.

Great war is WW1 retard

a chess move threatening them from another angle, it didn't pan out anyway and mexico made that pretty clear to the US iirc

The Kaiser, lisping:
‘well because some Slav autist short the Archduke and we have no colonial possessions worth a cup of ersatz coffee, we have to make use of this mysterious military buildup and invade France. I’m afraid it’s the only way. I think we should then fritter away our technological edge in years of static warfare until the tank is invented. I definitely think watching the British waste the flower of Australian youth and seeing it demographically destroyed for France, watching the US join at the last minute and the Italians switch sides just because will be great fun! It’s not like people will blame anyone other than the Jews when years of bloody, protracted fighting prove needlessly wasteful, giving rise to the Manga Robot Hitler and where, stripped of Martial pride and nobility, German soldiers will shoot each other!’

>The State of American education

>america had a sizable german speaking populace still at this time
Yep. Many small towns were mostly in german speaking in the Midwest. Once the war started though, they took down the signs in German and doubled down on learning and speaking English in everyday life. That feeling was there too. Was still there in WW2 even.

Youre saying germany was only pretending to be retarded

I read that it was more like the English and French would’ve defaulted on their loans if they lost WWI. Such a terrible war.

I bet Nazi Germany would have been equally unbased as Soviet Russia. I imagine a mix of 1984, sauerkraut and torture porn.

This Anglo is telling the only truth that matters.

how so? they tried their luck with a potential ally on the continent to apply pressure against US involvement, i'm not saying it was the smartest move, but if you can't see the reasoning i'm not going to argue

How does it feel to fall for jewish lies?

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The same japanese attack which was deliberately provoked and caused by us, with the intention of getting the public and our senate to support a war?

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Haha don't mind me, just watching. :)

European powers kept trying to take over Mexico.

The UK was trying to cuck the US during the Civil War.

The US and Russia were allies in the Civil War.

Germany was not causing any problems for the US, until they made a move on Mexico. The Zimmerman telegram ultimately pushed the US into either abandoning the Monroe Doctrine, or joining the war effort against Germany.

As the Russian czar fell to the communists, the US lost an ally in Russia.

English propaganda in the US was very effective regarding U-boats and the Lusitania.

Ultimately, the US allied with Great Britain because Anglo Americans were much more common than German Americans, the Lusitania, and the Zimmerman telegram.

Germany felt hostility to the US due to US being a democracy, while Germany was a monarchy.

Take a look at the ethnicity of last names of US presidents through today:

41: British

2: Dutch

1: Kenyan

2: German

As of WW 1, it was all English last names except Roosevelt, Dutch.

Should Germany have chosen differently? Yes, Germany should have decided to ally with the US prior to WW 1, even if it meant adopting a parliamentary democracy, keeping the monarchy and nobility only as figureheads. But that was not going to be the choice made by the German nobility at that time.

if their was one thing in history i could change it would be belgium blowiing them damn bridges and as someone here put it "asked for it" ie asking for their asses to be handed to them by the kaiser thereby dragging britain into the war via some flimsy informal "treaty"
the entire world would be so much different. the war would have been swift and in germany's favour

>Germany declares war on us despite no aggressions between the two countries
Other than supplying our enemies and attacking our u-boats.

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>Allied with the Turks
>Butthurt with the Russians and the Brits
>Sperging out in your own backyard instead of digging gold in Bongo Bongo Land
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The Kaiser was a literal faggot.

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becouse germany attacked american ships

>Allied with the Turks
I was replying to someone about ww2.
>Butthurt with the Russians and the Brits
>Sperging out in your own backyard instead of digging gold in Bongo Bongo Land
>Whatsnew.jpg
Even in the context of ww1, I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

Why didn't you watch over any of your former colonies so they wouldn't turn into shit holes?

That did change American opinion if I remember correctly. There's some statue in Belgian for all the food aid the US gave them during that time.

The Kaiser was more or less the incel cousin of Chad Nicky and Chad George. He shot up Europe High to show what a man he is but he actually just wanked off a lot of officers including Harden and Von Moltke with his withered hand. Sad!

So you're just being an edgy retard, got it.

It’s shorthand for the historical truth. Germany’s place in the sun etc

Because Wilson was a war mongering piece of shit

Isolationist Woodrow Wilson? Nah. He saw opportunity in a forthcoming treaty. Same reason Italy reneged on its alliance. Material interests got in the way.

We shouldn't have been involved at all and the whole war never should have happened. The consequences of WWI have been a complete and utter disaster.

>incel cousin of Chad Nicky and Chad George
gotta love the aussie shitposters view of things here. in a way i guess you are right though desu the kaiser was a fucky bloke for sure and as you put it his plans of "sperging out" all failed. If the germans leader had simply built up industry and made political gains with america as another poster here put it, things could have been so much different. but shoulda woulda, we are here now and we must not let all the sacrifices made be forgotten, or forget why we made them. personally i believe it was all planned by the elite long before and exectued in a way that ensured the industialization of warfare and the ultimate means of population control.

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>Isolationist Woodrow Wilson?
That man tried to create the Leauge of Nations, which we didn't even become a part of. Both him and Roosevelt were warmongers fighting against the isolationist tendencies of Americans at the time. I see it making a small comeback, but the overton window has definitely shifted on war. Maybe it becomes easier when you have the resources for it. Wilson was such an 'internationalist globohomo' that he helped create something that we didn't even join.

1913 US money supply falls into the hands of banking jews
1933 US government bankrupted and the receivers of the debt are the banking jews

America wasn’t so bellicose at the time. Maybe material support but the idea that they’d invade Europe on the side of the aggressor is a bit Alt history. Germany had imperial aspirations that played out on the continent in lieu of anyone else, and the Kaiser was regarded as a weak leader.

Arguably WW1 was an entity in of itself but entirely informed by the short border disputes, Napoleonic campaigns, AustroPrussian and PrussianDanish and FrancoPrussian conflicts. We have the perspective in a globalised world to want to cooperate against the hordes somewhat.

US was selling weapons and bonds and didn’t want to lose out on their investment retard.

Because we could lol

Socialist leaning President creates transnational organisation? Well, yeah, they do that. But I’d be more concerned about Neocon era politicians than Woodrow ‘Proto Zoomer talks soft but doesn’t mind a scrap’ Wilson.

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I don’t think the devastation of mechanised warfare on people’s psyche and the economy is a worthwhile trade off. You’re best over educating people, making them fat, materialistic and happy in the sense of their basic needs being gratified. Then their pussies dry up because of feminism or they burn their dick off fapping like a stone being shaped by water. Big destructive actions don’t work even if you’re a comfy elite unless you’re projecting that power into a territory from without.

At least by losing we are still there to vote LePen

>this angers and confuses the German

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SPBP

The Brits were unironically the bad guys of WW2. The French were the bad guys from WW1. USA had warmongers in power that dragged us into the war. FDR in particular is our worst president of all time, communist sympathizer and treasonous snake.

But at least we aren't speaking German!

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>Why did the U.S. side with the bad guys during the Great War?
the British, we would never side with Germany since Britain has always been a close ally. Britain and France wanted our involvement, and the Germans fucked up enough times (U-boats sinking civilian vessels, etc.) to give the US an excuse to butt in and help the eternal anglo

We were not the bad guy, we were taking back the Loraine and Alsace that are French.

No

Pretty much this, what did we actually get out of WWII? Jew apologists and idiots will scream "muh hegemony" without acknowledging the truth: that white Americans don't rule the western world, the fucking kikes do.

>Britain has always been a close ally.
We literally fought multiple wars against them. They had never been an ally.

US intevention in WW1 caused the Treaty of Versailles and the Treaty of Trianon and fueled nationalist wrath. Everything the US touches turns to shit, they unironically deserve their demographic fate and will celebrate when their country dies and their country gets blacked out of existence.

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>US intevention in WW1 caused the Treaty of Versailles and the Treaty of Trianon and fueled nationalist wrath
Oh fuck right off it was you and France that fucked Germany over and everyone knows it.

Without the US, the result of WW1 would've been equal exhaustion between the two sides. With the US involved, it forced Germany to accept an unconditional surrender.

>They had never been an ally.
They have since the roughly the 1900's, when they knew we would pass them in economic power. That's why they get pissy one day when we ignore them, or get criticized for being too close to the US in their internal politics. (a poodle for example, or a 'lapdog'. Sometimes by the same people over the years.)
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Haha, no. This is a lie. The US was acting against the Germans in WW2 long before any acts of aggression by the Germans. Look up the Lend-lease Act and how that kike sympathizer FDR abused it to fund the Brits and Soviets for years all while the Germans basically ignored the USA and even offered peace to the Brits over two dozen times.

As far as German u-boats sinking civilian ships, you're referring to WW1, the sinking of the Lusitania, which was the act that dragged the US into WW1 against the Germans. Trouble is that it was revealed to actually be a false flag perpetrated by the British to drag the US into the war.

The fucking Brits were our enemies in BOTH World Wars! They are fucking traitors to white Europeans and to white Americans. The British government and bankers, at the behest of Jews, had to win the war to secure Palestinian land for the Jews. Seriously look it up you dumb motherfucker.

>Without the US, the result of WW1 would've been equal exhaustion between the two sides. With the US involved, it forced Germany to accept an unconditional surrender.
And yet it was your two countries that created the Treaty of Versailles. The US was basically ignored during that whole thing.

Not saying the UK wasn't wrong, all I'm saying is that had things been left on their own without outside involvement from the world's polce, things would've been much better off

It was mostly the Brits, to be fair. But fuck the French for acting like cocks after WW1 and deep dicking the Germans despite their economy being wrecked. So glad you got fucking embarrassed right at the start of WW2. Enjoy your blacked nation, frog fucker.

Anglos, they sacrificed their sons because they didn't want Germany's Navy to challenge their hegemony over the high seas.
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Father Coughlin wasn't a Nazi, he was a Christian that opposed communism and other forms of judaism

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And what caused U.S. intervention in WW1? Jews and their anglophile friends in the U.S. media and government. Why are there so many rich influential Jews in the United States? Because they got their start in Britain and migrated to America.

The ability of the British to delude themselves into thinking that they're blameless and to pass the buck onto everyone else is absolutely amazing. Far too much of the Jew has rubbed off on you.

>all I'm saying is that had things been left on their own without outside involvement from the world's polce, things would've been much better off
We weren’t the “world police” until like the 50s.
It’s just that I hear so much about how the US had almost nothing to do with WW1 outside of the BAR and making Germans mad about shotguns that it’s baffling to hear that it’s our fault that Germany got angry at the Allies.

This. The British have more in common with the pop culture "evil Nazi" stereotype than the actual German NSDAP ever did if you actually look at the history of both nations leading up to WW1 and through the aftermath of WW2.

Checked for truth

Only because you prevented us to do an offensive on Berlin at the end of WWI to be able to sell your shit to Germany so we had to settle with a shit half assed treaty. Enjoy speaking mexican mutt cunt.

someone explain the germans blowing up the statue of liberty. black tom. why is this bever talked about. and yeah america fought on the side of the jews.

Or we can go all the way back to Charlemagne and his system of Jewish financial supremacy in his country which was inherited by William the Bastard, who settled Jews in the British Isles. Fun fact, there were no Jews in Britain until the Normans settled them here. Christianity is literally the biggest system of Jew enabling of all time

The Lusitania was a British merchant ship that flew the British flag and openly shipped arms for the British war effort. Americans were warned BEFORE the sinking by Germany that the ship was a combatant in the illegal naval blockade of the North and Baltic Seas. It was either let millions of rounds of ammunition be shipped to kill your men or kill a few Americans on an enemy ship that had plenty of forewarning. But Wilson always wanted the US in war, the only reason his 2016 campaign slogan was "He kept us out of war!" was because it was such an unpopular prospect among the population

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>le horse shoe theory
yellow journalism is the phrase youre looking for. the u.s. would have never joined had the fake "theyre turning prisoners into soap and lamps" stories never been printed.

The purpose of WW1 was to carve up the Ottoman Empire so the UK could have Iraq, France could have Syria, and the Jews could have Palestine. That's all, and that's why no borders really changed in Europe.
The purpose of WW2 and the Holocaust, as it was, was to force the creation of Israel as a replacement European army to guard Western shipping interests through the Suez Canal, with the British army scheduled to depart in 1952. That's all, and that's why no borders really changed in Europe.
Every European country was just playing their role in the play.

Thats german territory tho

The only way to ensure everlasting peace on the European continent is to make sure that all nations who share ancestry with the German people be erased from history permanently.

based and Elaße-lothringenpilled

We had contingency plans to fight Great Britain again as late as the early 20th century.
In 1890, a small group of US naval professionals drew up plans for war in case of
hostilities with the United Kingdom, and a few years later the Naval War College
classes of 1894 and 1895, as their Problem in the Art of War, a new annual exercise,
elaborated plans for war with the British.
Versions of this essay were delivered at “From Enemies to Allies: An International Conference
on the War of 1812 and Its Aftermath,” Annapolis, Maryland, 14 June 2013, and the 83rd annual meeting of the Society for Military History, in Ottawa, Ontario, 16 April 2016.
We should have stayed out ot their `Great War' but Wilson and other anglophiles wanted to make nice with them. American doughboys after a five year war were the final straw for Germany.

this thread is about WWI you illiterate ape

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>Christianity is literally the biggest system of Jew enabling of all time
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Roman_Empire#Dispersion_of_the_Jews_in_the_Roman_Empire

"The Jews in the diaspora were generally accepted into the Roman Empire, but with the rise of Christianity, restrictions grew."
The laws allowing Jews out of the military also had extra taxes applied on them. The basis for Muslim laws, really. They followed the practice of making people pay extra for not being conscripted. Usury was also a problem, obviously. Don't mistake me for defending Jews or the goat fuckers.

My entire second paragraph was about what dragged the US into WW1 you illiterate mother fucker.

It was all based on propaganda. I saw an exhibit in a New York museum of all places about all the propaganda based around the "Rape of Belgium" and the repression of the German American population

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>millions killed of two providences lost in a previous war
Euros man...

>*for