Hitler's Original Plan

Slavs are niggers and should all be gassed.

fuck me, so many spelling errors, disregard. Am watching a movie also.

I’ve read the shitty book and thought it would be interesting. “International jewry this, international Jewry that”. Hitler was an aspie running a nation of weaponized autistic

Are you suggesting that a national socialist society should respect the sovereignity of other territories? Why? Where is the oxymoron?

He covers a lot more than international finance and the Jew, but those problems are even more relevant today than in his time.

Well, he would be praised as a good guy, who made Germany into the literally only white country, but by doing this he anger some people and if you anger a lot of people there will be consequences. In other word, him wanting to conquer parts of Czech and Poland is why he didn't succeed.

Look who's talking kek

I'm not slavic so.

Forget about articulating a reasonable well thought geopolitical points and all, his whole book was written like what an angst hormonal driven teenage girl writes. Go read actual books, maybe it makes a sense because it’s the only book that you ever read

The Sudetenland was German (part of Austria proper before ww1) It made part of the artificial state of Czechoslovakia to weaken Austria and by extension Germany.

False. Wealth and the greed of the oligarchical powers that back the United States, who wished to subjugate Europe economically while it was vulnerable, is why he didn't succeed. And the result was Europe being forced to standardize against US currency. Do not blame the actions of the villain on the hero who struggled against them.

Why did the British and French give up their empires for a port city?

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I'm attempting to articulate reasonable geopolitical discussion, while you are throwing around immature insults. Ironic. Maybe you shouldn't have read some Finnish translation meant to make him appear a lunatic, those are common in most languages.

Blind aggression.

Yes i am, at least it should theoretically.
Except with the amount of citizens in nations that are not their own, as chzechman pointed out with the 50% german czechs, it would be an impossibility.
imagine being sweden, 100% homogenous and bring in so many non-citizens that the demographics shift profoundly and the original swedes becoming a minority.
Not a jest at reality by the way, simply using them as a real life example.
So the swedes by this logic would have to cessede their land to the new swedes.
this however infringes on the very sovereignty of a nation, and the right the people had to that land in the first place.
The oxymoron takes place when ethics are considered.

No, you're most likely a mutt

If the image isn't bullshit, then the Sudetenland wasn't German, before ww1, pic related

So you're telling me, that they would attack Germany if he wouldn't ask to conquer Sudetenland?

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Natsoc is great if you're broke, but you're going to run out of steam and collapse eventually

what are you basing that on?

>since I'm from Czech I'm not sure if I should like or dislike Hitler
>be slav
>why dislike Hitler
well i dunno, surely all that talk about "general plan ost" is all lies

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Why are you speaking about what national socialism "ought" to do without having read the source material. Read Mein Kampf.

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A national socialist nation first and foremost is centered around the well-being of its people. If the annexation or subjugation of foreign territories works for the long-term success of the people of the nation, it is the right decision. National socialism centers its policy around the group of people its designed to express the will of. The policy or sovereignity of other nations is 100% irrelevant to this. In Germany's case, they intended to create a powerful state for Germanic peoples. It is not the aim of national socialism to project its values onto every single other state in the world and pretend that every single other state shares those values and should thrive underneath them. National socialism is meant to develop, protect, and accelerate the long-term well being of the people of the state in question.

Let me put it into simple terms for you with an analogy. Grug tribe want to have more territory to enrich grugs. Groog tribe have neighboring territory. Grug tribe take groog tribe territory. Is Grug committing fallacy and self-contradiction anywhere in this process?

Sudetenland being outside of German territory is the fault of said aggressors in the first place.

I'm tired of educating you without payment. Read Mein Kampf. All of the information you are asking for and more is readily available to you. Stop being lazy.

archive.org/details/MeinKampfTheStalagEditionTheOnlyCompleteAndOfficiallyAuthorisedEnglishTranslatio/page/n7

archive.org/details/AdolfHitlersMeinKampf-CompleteAudioBookMp3

>I head Hitler only wanted to take over areas with German populations
>He specifically writes that that's the first step to control and resettlement of Eastern Europe
>N-no he meant no harm he was a good boy

This is what NatSoc apologists really believe

What do you mean? Elaborate. I get the feeling you do not know what national socialism is.

One of the faults I find in Hitler's views, other than some old-fashioned misinterpretations of natural selection, are his views on Slavs. It's easy to make an excuse for him however, because to Germans in his time Slavs were almost perfectly analagous as Mexicans are to white Americans. He also didn't have the context of the cold war, where Slavs proved they were something a lot more than white niggers.

That aside, Hitler's racism against Slavs is no reason to discount national socialism as the ideal method of the state as a Slav. The situation has changed since the 1940s, dramatically.

Are you talking about the plan of eliminating Slavic people? Yep, that's not true

That's fine, I'll just don't like him

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This guy doesn't even know what national socialism is.

Someone give me a cohesive tldr of his reasons for annexing.

The most basic explanation is right here You should however read the primary source material.

archive.org/details/MeinKampfTheStalagEditionTheOnlyCompleteAndOfficiallyAuthorisedEnglishTranslatio/page/n7

archive.org/details/AdolfHitlersMeinKampf-CompleteAudioBookMp3

Long ago, there was a Medieval Kingdom of Khazaria, 652-1016 AD that included part of modern day Russia, Ukraine, and a sliver of what is now Kazakhstan. This area was somewhat interesting in history because when considering the choice of Islam, or Christianity or Judaism the leaders of this 'empire' decided to declare themselves Jewish. That was a very odd choice in an area of the world which was predominately Islam and Christian. There was little Zoroastrianism...but Jewish was essentially not on the radar. The Khazaria Empire could not extend any further south because the Tatars and Turkmen proved to be about as obstinate as the Afghans have been throughout history. The Khazarian 'Jews' are NOT descendants of the 12 Tribes of Israel and their world view and lack of truly, pious spiritual Judaism have created conflict within that religion ever since. To a great extent, these are our current day Zionist Jews (including Neocons, of course) who have formed a world power banking, extortion cult of war and death that has little or nothing to do with being devout adherents of Judaism. These are the folks who think nothing of breaking the law, lying (Kol Nidre), stealing, graft, corruption, assassination, blackmail, extortion or destroying tens of millions of people to get their way.

hitler was a filthy expansionist. real national socialism has never been tried

Endless expansion isn't feasible, war exhaustion exists. People are selfish, eventually they're going to get sick of the racial idealist collective and turn to their personal ambitions. They're not fucking ants.

It always gets me.

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The man was a Prophet. I believe I read something of his where he pointed out that while both North and South America were heavily colonized, only North America flourished and became powerful. The reason was that in South America the colonizers interbred with the natives and created a mixed race population, while in North America the colonizers killed the natives and only bred with themselves, thus staying ethnically European.

He predicted that the U.S. would go down a path towards mongrelization due to the heavy influence jews had accumulated here.

we would have conquered you and killed or enslaved every single subhuman slav

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>Throughout the past century, they have done just that in directly and indirectly liquidating over 100 million people. These soul- less 'reptilian' killers obey only the Talmud, not the laws of the lands they live in. This very behavior and 'ethics' appear, in fact, in the Talmud as Rabbinical teaching. Most pious Jews of good heart and conscience who follow the Torah know that such is not the way to achieve civilized, enlightened society.

>This is, in part, one of the reasons "Jew haters" have often been unable to differentiate between the truly religious descendants of the 12 Tribes of Israel (the ones the Old Testament of the Bible is about) and these squatters and interlopers who came from Central Asia and have, for the most part, taken over their religion and turned it into an evil club of power manipulation, greed, money, war, death and destruction. Many true Torah Jews are highly-offended at the atrocities these Zionist Khazars Talmudic Jews have inflicted on mankind. From the huge massacre of Russian Christians under Zionist Bolshevik Communism, to the mass starvation holocaust of 20-30 million Ukrainians, to the creation of Nazism/fascism of World War II, to the mass slaughter of Christian Armenians, and to the current day blood-lust genocide of Iraq and Iran...these Zionist Khazars have made it abundantly clear, to the tune of over 100 million dead, that they have nothing but murderous contempt of Christians and Muslims.

believe what you want but czechs would have been treated the same than we did with subhuman poles

how young are you? they were not even countries before the end of WW1.
the land that was STOLEN was the land stolen from GERMANY after the end of that war.

Hitler literally attended the funeral of a Polish general, so no, he personally he did not hate Slavs

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You've got it backwards. The German population were the original inhabitants of the areas that Uncle Adolf wished to repatriate. The Eastern peoples moved in on the Germans. Additionally, Hitler may wanted to conquer half of Europe, who can really say what he wanted? What's known are the facts, and in fact he just responded to both communist and allied shenanigans that were designed to pull Germany into a self-destroying war. In other words, yet again through incessantly lies and prodding, the Jews did it.

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Based Finn bro is right.
The book is complete garbage.

The Sudetenland was German. Prior to 1919 it was part of the Habsburg empire for 400 years, which was German ruled. German Bohemia and Moravia were German speaking territories as were Upper and Lower Austria, Styria, Carinthia and Tyrol that just happened to be under the imperial rule of the Habsburg government. There was no "Austrian nation", they were Germans. After the implosion of the empire one of the rump states that emerged was German Austria, which included modern Austria as well as German Moravia and Bohemia, essentially all German speaking Habsburg territores. However, the Bohemian and Moravian territories of German Austria were invaded by the Czech national army and essentially annexed, which was confirmed by post war treaties. The French and British allowed this annexation to weaken Germany and Austria, and strengthen Czechoslovakia (meme artificial country) as a French counter to Germany in the east and south. The Sudetenland 100% should have been partitioned between Germany and Austria after WW1 (Austria itself should have been annexed by Germany) just Czech autism and Frenh and Britsh power politics allowed It to happen.

read the Talmud cunt. THEIR BOOK, and hear what THEY have to say about stealing, graft, corruption, blackmail extortion, false witness, murder, rape, pedophilia
...if they didn't tie you to the tree they are not responsible if you die if they don't untie you and leave you to die...
that is the mindset of the jew. their nature is different from ours. they lack COMPASSION. they are subhuman monsters. evil asshole people.

not at all what i meant mate, don't confuse me with some communist faggot please.
Also facism =/= national socialism.
They are not interchangeable.
>“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”
Hitler or bennito?
grugpost all you want, all i did was agree with his reasoning.

You confuse "German" as meaning part of the unified German state created by Prussia. By German I mean it was part of a German state (in this case Austria) and populated primarily by ethnic Germans.

So, in the end, Brits and French are fucking retards for allowing it in the first place

What's the difference between them? My friend told me the only real difference is that fascism is okay with more races, while ns is okay for only one race.

Hitler wanted all German regions United by the mostly unified state of Germany.

>claim to be master race
>call everybody around you subhuman
>declare war on them to prove your superiority
>lose
lmao

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>>declare war on them to prove your superiority
They declared war to reclaim land you stupid Polack. Poland did the same in 1918 to reclaim land from the Soviet Union.

>to Germans in his time Slavs were almost perfectly analagous as Mexicans are to white Americans
we were not, and stop projecting your muttmerican shit on the native European people
Germans were and are a bunch of sissy boys compared to slavs, Russians in particular. Finicky, cowardly people that lost every war they ever fought against us, who only ever fought us through surprise attacks and who were only "brave" when dealing with our unarmed civilian population, otherwise pissing their pants and running away to mommy. Only attacked when had superior numbers, only used weak tactics, such as gas and air bombings, to avoid a straight-on clash. Always surrendering, never fighting against superior numbers, the only exception would be literal brainwashed Hitler Jugend children army. I've never heard a single story about German bravery, that tells something.
In terms of science and economy we weren't anywhere behind Germany, it was the Germany that was behind the Russian Empire. Look up the timeline of Russian innovation and see the shit for yourself, retarded uneducated muttmerican. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_innovation
Germany is nothing without other European nations backing them up, while Russia was its own boss.

The only redeeming quality of the Germans is their fashion and their engineering. Oh wait, they stole the peaked hat design from the Russian army, and the first bombers and track vehicles were invented by Russians, as well as the first gas masks that allowed for gas warfare. Oopsie-doopsie. I guess Germans don't really have much redeeming qualities, apart from their Froilen having giant, tasty, amazing milkers that must be preserved at all costs and thats pretty much the only reason why Germans must continue to exist.

Oh, and their culture is comfy. You don't bother me and I won't bother you, thats a good basis for a culture. So, tits and culture. Not much else.

thats some top tier cuckery lol

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>In terms of science and economy we weren't anywhere behind Germany, it was the Germany that was behind the Russian Empire.
Didn't think anyone could win that hard Ivan

*could wuz

>american education
first of, commie gopniks (trained, armed and sponsored by the germans by the way) attacked us
second of, these lands were ours in the first place
educate yourself prior to posting you absolute retard

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austro Hungarian empire, my bad but still german. your country was made into existance from lines on paper not out of racial reality. my point still stands, they were german lands stolen to form a meme country and those provinces belonged in german hands.

user are you that fucked in the head that just because Hitler invaded "your country" that he was the bad guy and you are actually BETTER OFF?!?! because he lost? how fucking dumb can you get?!
do you know anything about National Socialist philosophy? what it tried to create compared to what we are living with today?
are you a housenigger or something? do you like the taste of your slave master's dick?

Guys, Hitler never wanted to hurt anybody, he only invaded all those countries in self-defense.

The funniest part is that some people will agree with this.

Poland was the one ethnically cleansing people you dipshit. Hitler invaded to stop that. YOU were the racist genocidal cunts in that war you stupid faggot!

your friend is right, somewhat.
Facism: State is primary, culture and race fade to obscurity.
Natsoc: Volk is primary & state is a means to an end.
there's alot of books on the matter which explain it better, but i implore you to disregard any and all literature that refers to natsoc and facism as nazism.
Anyways i'm off watching my movie again.
US poster made me pause my movie.

oh really?
point me towards A SINGLE reliable source of evil poles "ethnically cleansing" poor dindu nuffin kraut minority
>hard mode: stormfront doesn't count as a source

the jews really kike fucked your pussy mind didn't they... grow up you child.

It doesn't matter. What matters is how you go to war, claiming whatever you wish; conquering the globe. All wars are fought over either resources or land, and lulls between wars are when little progress is made. Therefore, the natural state of humanity is a perpetual state of war until all that can be conquered has been conquered for your genetic kind. The white race was and is the most advanced technologically so naturally (without kikery) they should have the potential to claim the entire world for themselves. The Anglos who ganged up on Hitler shot themselves in the foot.

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Posen and West Prussia sure, but lands like Pommern, Lower Silesia, and East Prussia were populated by Germans since the 13th century.

>flag
>talks about being fucked by jews
oh im laffin

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>Germans
wew lad, seems like slavic pommeranians suddenly count as germans nowdays

We got one ladies and gents.

>It's easy to make an excuse for him however, because to Germans in his time Slavs were almost perfectly analagous as Mexicans are to white Americans

what the fuck are you talking about you stupid mutt??? hitler was born in the era of Russian Empire do you know this country you literal 30 IQ subhuman piece of nigger blood?

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This, same with the Polish Corridor.
The entente set up conflict between Germany and it's neighbors.

> never fighting against superior numbers
That is completely wrong. In almost every battle there were much more Russians than Germans.
It was Stalins plan to "overrun" Germany with sheer lager numbers. Sadly he was a complete cheap ass and failed to give them proper weapons.
So what are German solders supposed to do when thousands of unarmed soldiers run towards them destined to kill?
They had to kill them all. That is how 25 million Russians died.

War sucks. I understand that we can never be friends again. The complete destruction of my ancient Teutonic homeland in Königsberg made that a sure thing.

oy vey shlomo

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Germans and their meme allies had numerical superiority until late 1942

>Medieval Kingdom of Khazaria, 652-1016 AD

nigger, at first you check the dates. fucking hell the avarage burgers IQ here on Jow Forums is dropping every fucking day.

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C O P E

Maybe in past, that was true, but now Russia is literally garbage, sure people are still proud Russian citizens, but then you look at how an average Russian is forced to live and you kek
Also, don't fucking compare Slavs in general to Russians you fucking retard, you are one of the reasons why we aren't economically strong

Calling a country a meme country with that flag is pretty funny

That's true, but it doesn't change anything
Also, there isn't any a 'white' race

>In almost every battle there were much more Russians than Germans.

de fuck you saying idiot? gosh, Im gonna leave this thread it's full of morons pretending they know smth in history. suck dicks you whiney losers.

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a true naturalist lives in accordance to nature. Naturally we are tribal, we stick to our own. Which is what national socialism practices
personally I am not even a fan of white nationalism
I am American and white so it did work out mixing white ethnic groups into a mutt white race united as a country. without the jew infiltration and niggers it worked
but I believe in united nation states, a federation of white people.
Germans in Germany, Independent Scotland, Nordic peoples like swedes and Norwegians still having their own countries but united as brothers.
I would not want to see a bunch of Irish invade Germany or a bunch of Italians invade Sweden, it is not the same as muslims browning invasion but it is still a replacement/genocidal thing.
True Multi culturalism is preserving that diversity. Iceland is not the same place if Spanish culture starts to run rampant up there.
America was a pretty much a white country, we were very segregated in white groups, but we blended together. now we are just American and lost our original cultural differences and formed more of an American white mono culture, which got shit on into a "equal rights" multi racial America of today.
Natsoc, preserves the race, culture, heritage, ethnic group. It is pro white but I believe would have been a united block of nation states not a free flowing white mixing "European" maga mono state. like white America style Europe. that mixing would be a sin to me.

lol, you're either retarded or a newfag.
Bet it's the Tatar blood in you that makes you so angry.

>without the jew infiltration and niggers it worked
*fixed*
Without the jew infiltration and niggers it would work

Would he have won if he didn't listen to Keitel?

They were Germanized. They took on the language and culture of Germans voluntarily like Norman Vikings took on French culture.

I don't bother to explain anything to a nigger, pretending he is an oldfug here. hey, dirty blood, you're not even on your way to the first real red-pill.

>tries to make fun of ruskies for having tatar blood
>meanwhile
how does it feel Rodriguez? your beloved krauts got raped so much they have way more asiatic blood in them than russians ever did

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I am a white mixed mutt. irish, german, swede, Norwegian . all European white.
and within the white European race I am not fully against race mixing inside our race, but to intentionally mix it all up even if all white European you would lose that ethnic cultural uniqueness.
If the majority of people were pure within the nation then some white mixing would be okay since those kids would remix with the overwhelming founding pure stock and their kids as well and would not be a threat to the overall ethnic character of the country.
but a universal mixing and movement of whites throughout all European countires would mix them into a mono whiteness in the end.
So I am against race mixing even within my own race, that is how far I go with the preservation of the white race.
I go even further then the 14 words.

I want a future for Irish Children, French Children, German Children ect ect. Diversity is our strength you know.

There is Natsoc propaganda depicting France in a hundred years where the last remaining french are in zoos.

>voluntarily
imagine believing that
>Deutscher Ostmarkenverein
>Ostsiedlung
>Drang nach Osten
>Kulturkampf
>Polenausweisungen
since XII century krauts did their upmost to push east, often by forcibly germanising slavic and baltic natives

That's what I believed ever since I was a child. Back then I didn't know anything about America's racial demographics, and since I lived in a 90+% white town, I assumed the rest of America was like that. I thought of America as the combination of the different European ethnic groups, and out of that combination we created a new culture and variant of Euro. That for us, it worked. I also though it was right for us to do that since all the original Euro groups still existed in Europe, continuing their unique cultures and peoples in their own countries. The Old World and the New World of white peoples and cultures, all doing our own things in peace and friendship.

I wish I could go back to that more naive time.

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user please dont fall for all the hype against hitler. he may have invaded your country during the war but his world view was exactly what would have prevented the brown invasion of europe we are seeing from ever happening.
he was the defender of europe not the destoryer of it, we are seeing what is the destoryer of europe today and it is exactly what hitler and natsoc was against.

His plan was to turn almost all of Eastern Europe into a German colony and to exploit the inhabitants as a second-tier caste. Czechs would have been fucked over hard.

>I dislike the idea of somebody taking over some land just because there are enough people of a certain nationality

MUSLIMS coming to EUROPE

Wow, East Germany is yellow, very cool Jacek.

Keep up the good work in Poland, my gf is 2nd gen Polish, I intend on retiring around Krakow.

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>that chart
Sure, but it's irrelevant. What matters are the wages and the cost of living.

>There were 350,000 working women in Massachusetts in 1911 when social reformers urged the state legislature to investigate the issue of low wages. Many women, especially those in the booming textile industry, earned between $5 and $7 A WEEK for working more than 50 hours. The actual cost of living, however, was approximately $10 a week for a woman living on her own and $8 for a woman living at home.
historynet.com/the-first-minimum-wage.htm

> A national socialist nation first and foremost is centered around the well-being of its people. If the annexation or subjugation of foreign territories works for the long-term success of the people of the nation, it is the right decision.

Yes, which is why it's a nigger-tier ideology. "Whatcha got there, white boy? Gibs me dat or I'm gonna bust a cap in yo ass!"

> Is Grug committing fallacy and self-contradiction anywhere in this process?

No. Grug is acting like a fucking moron though, because this level of barbarity is looked down upon by civilized people. Modern wars are won by logistics and technology, not savagery, so the German war effort was pretty much doomed from the start.