Guys, I just want to return to the olden days of hunter-gatherers. Why did we start the fucking agricultural revolution?
Just think about it:
1. Live close to nature, basically outside, all the time. 2. Have your tribe, which is a bunch of close frens and family. 3. A lot of phisical activity, stay fit and feel awesome. 4. No depression/ bipolar disorders or any other stupid mental shit. 5. Have your tribal wife and a bunch of kids. 6. Never ever worry about taxes, debt, natural disasters, crime. 7. Regularly take psychedelics with your tribes shaman - remember what we are all the time.
>I just want to return to the olden days of hunter-gatherers. We call that communism today
Josiah Carter
Yeah, unless Beto takes them from you
Dominic Rivera
Some lazy fuck realized its easier to just domesticate animals instead of hunting them. Then some evil fuck realized that humans can be domesticated and exploited too. And here we are.
Kevin Johnson
why go to a foring country isnt there plenty good woodland in bulgaria?
Brandon Carter
Yea and that's how the Neanderthals died off. They were stubborn fuckers who kept wanting to migrate to the British isles.
Humans went from natural disaster to natural disaster until they settled in stable places. And now we know what's up.
Advancing is in our DNA we cant escape it.
Adam Roberts
Not a problem. I will smuggle them from Turkey or we'll take them from local police. Obeying authority is for lesser men.
You can live like that now. But you don't want to, you just like to fantasize.
Matthew Howard
Of course, but I'm kind of worried that If you tried to live like this in a European (western more broadly) country, a hunter-gatherer hermit, you'd get arrested for some reason. No one does that.
Ethan Diaz
let me guess, you are a 30 years old bulgarian named "Yordan"? There are quite a few like you around Ruse and I usually like talking with you guys, but you have to realise that everything has bad sides and hunter-gather societies have their bad shit too.
Asher Thomas
>whats holding you back faggot No Trespassing laws exist now.
Isaiah Sanchez
Enjoy 75% of your kids dying before the age of 5, retard.
Ayden Garcia
I believe OP wishes he was born back then so he would have the proper genetics to not be fucked up and a faggot.
Samuel Davis
I'm too much of a conformist to take such a huge step alone. But if such lifestyle gained popularity, I'd join it.
Isaac James
75% of babies are aborted anyway britbong
Kevin James
>you'd get arrested for some reason This is why we need guns and body armor. And liquor and women.
With today's knowledge living in the woods wouldn't be so tough, it would be a lot tougher for him to find a woman wiling to live with him like that
Nathan Martinez
Only the strong should survive. If you can’t survive childhood why the fuck should you artificially be kept alive?
Matthew Lopez
Nah, younger than that and I'm actually Polish. I know that that lifestyle was no utopia. Child mortality rates were big, there was wild animals killing ya, parasites crawling up your ass, other tribes wanting to kill you and stuff, but still - we evolved to deal with that. We didn't evolve to deal with the internet, corporations and all the social alienation of the modern lifestle.
Luke Myers
Abortion has only been legal in my country for less than 50 years. We dont need some neo pagan hunter gatherer larpers for that. Also, we would need to reduce the population density by 99% in Europe in order to have enough food for everyone to survive. Hope you like picking who gets to live and die. Better not be t Your mother or sister.
Alexander Rodriguez
Again as I said, I just hope you can psychologically deal with that.
Jordan Thomas
Thanks for covering my back :D
I guess back then people were more chill about their kids dying anyway. Now every child is expected not to die, so if one dies it's a big thing.
Aaron Gray
Yeah man, I’m not a British pussy. I’ve seen shit that would make you squirm. I bet you’ve never even gutted a fish before.
Daniel Morales
You forgot the part about dressing up in fursuits like the dudes in your pic
John Lee
So? Back then you'd get butchered by marauders.
As opposed to the neolithic, when you could just waltz through other tribes' hunting grounds?
David Wilson
I've never gutted anything else than a centipede.
Cooper Baker
Skinned a rabbit, does that count?
Aaron Davis
Probably going to be nude, or close to it. Furs are only for when it gets cold.
have you read Ted Kaczynski ? There usually are a couple of others book/podcasts that talk about stuff like these that I talk about with my "primitivist" friends. I think that there is a balance and while I agree with a lot of the primitivists' talks and ideas I think that humanity was fine with technology of around 1930s-1940s. Basically those were the years when people got home toilets and shit like that and a lot of deseases like tapeworms became indian/african thing.
But then again if we have to take stuff that Ted Kazynski wrote for the truth ( and it is hard to argue with a lot of his ideas ) technology always improves and never goes back. Even if it does goes back, you need very little information to recreate it. Thus the whole game of technology is something that cannot be stopped and one can only "enjoy" the evolution of technology.
Liam Nelson
It's easy: We let Brazil dipshits burn down the rain forest, lose incalculable quantities of the population; only survivors are those intelligent enough to live in caves with hydroponics systems; many many generations later humans will rise from the ashes to a brave new world, ripe and magnificent.
I'm building my bunker first thing when I win the lottery. Or I'll die. Either is a win in my book.
Dylan Cook
And then another country rolls over us with tanks.
>As opposed to the neolithic, when you could just waltz through other tribes' hunting grounds? If you and your friends went into a forest to live and hunt now, you would not be fighting a small clan in opposition. You would be taking on the entire government and its modern army (up to and including machine guns and tanks) until you were destroyed.
Samuel Garcia
Haven't read anything.
"I think that humanity was fine with technology of around 1930s-1940s" - Well, actually I think there never was a time when we could say that life is only good, and were fine and don't have to progress at all. And what do you mean by the technology? Technology available in the cities? In the labs? Or in the villages? In those years my grandparents were still shitting into a hole in the ground outside their house.
"technology always improves and never goes back" - what about the technological downturn after the fall of the Roman Empire? That kind of stalled for many years if not regressed.
Dominic Butler
Checking, thanks bro
Caleb Miller
Hunter-gatherer is a made-up term. They don’t actually know how humans lived before known civilization. It’s jewish semitic circumcised bullshit like everything else
Samuel Sanchez
Because Cain grew crops.
Hes a Collectivist. His sons made weapons of murder out of metals.
Can I ask you about something? Just please don't attack me or call me a Jewish shill.
Do you really believe in the 'Jews control the world' stuff? This seems to be one of the main beliefs of the /pol community, but it is kind of counterproductive to actually believe it. Do you wanna talk about it for a moment?
Hudson Mitchell
Well, that fits nicely within the anarcho-primitivist worldview.
Evan Wright
You're assuming that tribes were of proportional strenght or that a small hunting party couldn't run into or get ambushed by a bigger one. Regardless, your mind is obviously corrupted by (((neolithic farmer))) concepts. You think you should stand your ground and "take on" the government. You're hunter gatherers, you can just move away, or hide and return after the stronger foe leaves. Nothing has changed.
Christian Flores
Nobody is stopping you from doing this. You sound More like you want to force everyone else to do it.
Noah Ortiz
Hey brother, please keep the discussion civil in my thread.
Juan Jackson
Well, I won't lie. Some cooperation on behalf of some other people would be welcome. No forcing tho.
William Allen
>Haven't read anything. There usually are 2 major books/podcasts that I have discussed with friends on the topic and those are the " INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY AND ITS FUTURE" by ted Kazynski washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm? and most of the podcasts of Luke smith notrelated.libsyn.com/ . Naturally there are a shit ton of more books but I am not really into the ideas of primitivism and as such I only know the subject and the ideas from the above and a couple of conversations with friends while playing MTG.
The manifesto is really interesting and while it is hard to argue that the author is right about his actions in the real life ( you will have to read about the unabomber ) his ideas are sound.
> Well, actually I think there never was a time when we could say that life is only good, and were fine and don't have to progress at all. true that, humanity is in a constant struggle to get an utopia that never seems to be reachable and always turns into distopia.
>And what do you mean by the technology? Technology available in the cities? In the labs? Or in the villages? By technology I really mean "the knowedge to know how to do something". Knowing how to write a python script that is a bot for a game is technology, just like knowing how to make a motor engine for cars is also technology.
>"technology always improves and never goes back" - what about the technological downturn after the fall of the Roman Empire? That kind of stalled for many years if not regressed.
This is adressed by Ted, but in general the idea is that technology can only be stalled if there is a some huge global political reason and even then some of it will be preserved. Technology can be stopped, however, if the resources needed for advancement are not there: thus you cannot progress if you do not have fuel in 20/21st century or horses in 10th century.
nah they wont put you in prison also police cannot do shit if you dont have a "address", at least in germany
Nicholas White
It's civil, fren. Are you new here? You can call people faggots and still have a calm conversation. Unless you're dealing with our resident schizos, then it doesn't matter what you write, you deserve the rope for being a fucking kike.
Asher Edwards
I've been around for quite a few years, but I've never actually posted anything, just lurked.
Kayden Fisher
>8. Die in your early twenties from an easily treatable wound because no one knows what antibiotics are.
Christopher Ross
Still, you'd get 20 years of awesome life instead a 100 of misery
Jeremiah Peterson
That's the "paradise" hidden in the creation story. The wilderness is the garden when you are badass. We'll get to go there in the next life with none of the problems of this world.
The physical mechanic that keeps this world broken is clothing. We are supposed to be nude, clothing should be functional only. Makeup should be for play, and so on.
An intellectually developed conservative humanity that is naked produces no porn. Women will be the new sexual agressors, no longer have a problem of hoping to get the penis of their dreams. They can look for it. Men will no longer have their sex drive amplifed by not being able to see nudity. After a long night of partying, you'll want your woman to take that outfit off because you miss the sight of her an bam.
The rest of the time you'll be putting her off till the evening because you have things to hunt and rocks to stack.
Don't take advantage of people now and you'll be good. See ya there.
This is a heavy redpill to swallow my fren. Your ancestors had the right idea till they settled down. Being a roving barbarian raiding team would be kino.
Jayden Morgan
>gets eaten by a saber tooth tiger at 5 years old
Sebastian Ross
>what's holding you back industrial society and its system
Eli Evans
Well he's going to enjoy making many kids in order to compensate
Jason Sanchez
>christcuck
Jacob Powell
typical burger, learns from a childs picture book
Jayden Richardson
>They couldn't bring themselves to kill the animals >Which is why they drove them off cliffs Lmao who writes this shit