Fuck off authoritarians, this board is for free men only

>show up to ball game
>everyone else is playing teams
>you initiated on playing solo because of principles or something

Retard.

nothing is wrong with having a team as long as the team captain doesn't start oppressing his fellow teammates. you fundamentally misunderstand the foundation of this nation.

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The captain must be given the authority to give orders, and as the player, you are under the obligation to respect the orders and follow them through. Oppression (whatever that means) isn't a factor. The only time you are at all obligated to usurp the captain is if he has sold your team out to a foreign manager or if he is acting against the team as a whole. The captain must be given the power to act in order to ensure the will of the World Series.

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the captain doesn't govern alone. he respects the will of a legislature, judiciary, and must respect the rules of the game that he swore an oath to. there are a lot more reasons to usurp the captain than you list, his power and authority must be respected and adhered, yes, but only when those same powers respect the rules of the game.

Libertarianism is a low IQ ideology

sorry i dont like tyrannical retards

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>the captain doesn't govern alone
The captain delegates, he should not completely give up his authority. He can delegate someone to choose which brand of baseball bats they should buy, but if his delegate chooses a shitty brand, he reserves the right to call them a faggot
>and must respect the rules of the game that he swore and oath to
If a captain is assigned or hired to a shitty team, it is his job to turn it around. If the teams training regiment says "Donuts and Porn", it is his job to tear it up and start a new. A true captain's loyalty lies not with the contract he had to sign, but with the team
>There are a lot more reasons to usurp the captain than you list
Name one
>Respect the rules of the game
If by "disrespecting the game" you are implying cheating (be it steroids or pine tar), he is therefore acting against the team as a whole by risking them getting disqualified

I'll tread where I please

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Privatization is stupid the power of the government is just transferred over to power of private interest. If we're on an island and a handful of people privatized the resources and didn't want to share but instead enslave others for access to said resources, we'd rightfully overthrow them. American Libertarianism is a cucked ideology, completely lost from its roots of real anarchism which was anti capitalist.

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ok retard

>A true captain's loyalty lies not with the contract he had to sign, but with the team
this philosophy has existed for some time, far beyond both our years. the idea of a nation existing over the state's government is true, yes. there is a will that exists within the united states that is above the government that we would recognize as "the will of the United States". but that will is expressly written into the founding document, and attempting to derive from that expressed will should be under extreme scrutiny. if everyone agreed to follow the rules, then loyalty to the contract and to the team are one and the same. if, for example, the team's desire became to never play the 6th inning for some reason, then we would defer to the contract.
>If by "disrespecting the game" you are implying cheating (be it steroids or pine tar), he is therefore acting against the team as a whole by risking them getting disqualified
by this analogy i refer to the constitution. almost all executives after Lincoln (with the exception of coolidge) have overstepped executive boundaries listed in the constitution (rulebook) captains who break the rules should not remain captains.
>The captain delegates, he should not completely give up his authority.
the captain should delegate things that are WITHIN his authority, and many things that past executives have delegated for are not within that authority.
the ultimate purpose behind limited government, in both our states and federal, is that humans with too much power are ultimately dangerous to the liberty of those under them. it's why we developed a system that made obtaining and exercising power so difficult, and why it should return to such difficulty. I understand the concern that without a strong executive that regiments such as "Donuts and Porn" would arise, and they have. but it is not the job of government to regulate the recreational actions of citizens, but to adhere to their rights to seek out such actions

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God why are you people so cringy?
>pic related is a lefty """meme"""

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>but that will [the will of the United States] is expressly written into the founding document
The constitution separated powers and set up regulation among the leaders. That is all. It was not written by God himself, if we went to Washington today and tore up the Constitution, the country would remain the same. We are founded by and sustained by people, not by ink. And we will win the World Series, through hard work and strong men, not through pen and paper.
>The captain delegates things that are WITHIN his authority
The buck stops with the Captain, he should have the final say over the team.
>Humans with too much power are ultimately dangerous to the liberty of those under them
This is my main problem with Libertarians. I want liberty, you want liberty, everybody wants liberty. The difference between you and me is that I don't consider liberty to be the final good. I don't consider liberty to be priority number one. What we need is order. We don't live in a society with order anymore, we live in a society built completely around "Donuts and Porn". And as our teams training regiment focuses more and more about Donuts and Porn, the players lose sight of what matters, they start to demand less and less fit players enter the team, we begin to place our faith in Donuts and Porn and give Donuts and Porn companies more and more power over us, and we lose.

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>We are founded by and sustained by people, not by ink. And we will win the World Series, through hard work and strong men, not through pen and paper.
my contention with this statement is that the constitution was built by hard work and strong men, and with its existence, hard work and strong men continued to exist and thrived in the United States
>The buck stops with the Captain, he should have the final say over the team.
fundamental disagreement on the dynamic of the captain and his team. the system we adopt in the united states of federalism allows the states to enact their own wills befitting their own teams in their own territories. no one man of systems or captain has the knowledge or solution to everyone's problems. people on the team can solve their own problems, it's up to the captain to make sure they have the capacity and choice to do so.
>I want liberty, you want liberty, everybody wants liberty. The difference between you and me is that I don't consider liberty to be the final good.
i think liberty is the key good that allows us to achieve the others, that's why it's a priority. the liberty to choose our paths is what allows us to forge out our own mistakes, learn from them, and grow. liberty is dangerous, anti-antithetical in a way to order, yes, but it is that liberty that has generated more wealth, prosperity, and happiness in the world than any society based on hierarchy and state order.
>And as our teams training regiment focuses more and more about Donuts and Porn, the players lose sight of what matters, they start to demand less and less fit players enter the team, we begin to place our faith in Donuts and Porn and give Donuts and Porn companies more and more power over us, and we lose.
nobody is forced to choose donuts and porn. they are good things, yes. i love donuts before work. but because i see the damage excessive indulgence i recognize that gorging on them would ultimately do me no good.

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>and with its existence, hard work and strong men continued to exist and thrive in the United States
You are wrong. Secularism and Degeneracy run rampant in modern America. Our families are being destroyed, are populations replaced, are arts turned into products, our men turned into feminized cowards, our women turned into whores. We are failing
>the system we adopt in the united states of federalism allows the states to ...
I am well aware how the current system runs, poorly. I want to change it, I don't want a civics lesson
>No one man... or captain has the knowledge or solution to everyone's problems. People on the team can solve their own problems, its up the captain to make sure they have the capacity and choice to do so
This is incorrect. The captain knows EXACTLY what is best for the team. He has more knowledge, experience, and talent when it comes to baseball, that is why he is Captain. If the pitcher wants to throw a curveball but the captain says "no, throw a fastball", it would be in everybodys best interest for the pitcher to throw a fastball. The Captain does in fact know best
>but it is liberty that has generated more wealth, prosperity, and happiness in the world than any society based on hierarchy and state order
Are you serious with this one? Every single civilization and society of any merit before us (including this one for the most part) has been based on hierarchy and state order. And regarding the wealth and prosperity, that is another problem I see today. Too much value is put on money. It doesn't matter in the long run and it is unhealthy for our citizens to live their life solely for the sake of getting rich.
>but because I see the damage excessive indulgence i recognize that gorging on them would ultimately do me no good
Good for you, I'm really happy for you. I am. The problem is that the rest of the country doesn't see it that way. Open your eyes. Do you really think we should allow for a society of addicts

Country was founded on the basis it would remain white. White people are only ones who believe in civic nationalism, everyone else defaults to racial tribalism. Look at how prison gangs are formed, that is the absolute state of nature there. Libertarianism is pure idealism that ignores biological realities.

>You are wrong. Secularism and Degeneracy run rampant in modern America. Our families are being destroyed, are populations replaced, are arts turned into products, our men turned into feminized cowards, our women turned into whores. We are failing
only in the last 60 years when the government took extreme oversteps in its reach to fix problems it had no business fixing. your solution is already the problem, government is ineffective no matter who is at the head
>The Captain does in fact know best
in this analogy of baseball, sure. but the baseball team captain doesn't know the best about basketball, football, hockey, that's why we elect multiple people for multiple positions, it's dangerous to put our trust in one man because one man cannot be all knowing. even with the aid of experts and advice he will fall short
>Every single civilization and society of any merit before us (including this one for the most part) has been based on hierarchy and state order
there is a major difference in the american republic, however. our hierarchy is based upon merit and competence (or it was). our society doesn't serve to benefit the state, it exists to help us better ourselves, which in turn benefits others.
>Too much value is put on money. It doesn't matter in the long run and it is unhealthy for our citizens to live their life solely for the sake of getting rich.
in the process of getting rich, others become wealthy. i don't really have the time to explain how the pursuit of wealth works but you understand that the more people pursue wealth in a capitalist society, the more good they would have to provide for people to seek out their business. businesses that do not provide good are neglected and fail. now that good might vary, our example of donuts and porn is a fair point that the moral good does not always equal the market good. but people choose what they want, and i would argue the choices made in our society have benefited us more than harmed.

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meant for obviously
i have to go now so i'll let you have a final response if you'd like. i believe our main contention comes from our belief in people. i believe given liberty, people will pursue goals that will benefit themselves and immediate family, which in turn may also benefit the good of others. this doesn't have to be directed by any one captain, but grows organically and is a structure without an architect's blueprint

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>only in the last 60 years when the government took extreme oversteps in its reach to fix problems it had no business fixing. your solution is already the problem, government is ineffective no matter who is at the head
Explain yourself. The 60s were a time of "rebellion" AGAINST the government, AGAINST order, AGAINST authority. The state did not legislate the sexual revolution. As for this "government don't work" nonsense, our government doesn't work because our government doesn't let itself work, its barely a government. It can be fixed
>in this analogy of baseball, sure
Baseball is the country. Yeah, the captain doesn't know best about other countries and other sports, so he shouldn't stick his nose in their stadiums unless absolutely necessary
>There is a major difference in the american republic blah blah blach personal merit
what part of "I want to change it, I don't want a civics lesson" don't you understand. You are right about our society not being to serve the benefit of the state. The state is supposed to serve us, and it needs the AUTHORITY to do so
>Free market and stuff
yes I know how it works, I used to be one of you. But the mental, psychical, and moral health of our people are of far greater importance than the GDP. The markets should serve the people, not the other way around. If, for instance, the markets begin to sell products that are addictive and monopolize off of it, and with this monopoly expand in their immoral acts, for instance, by selling your information, by using their products to propagandize, by de-platoforming naughty opinions, et cetera. You are being tread on and you are letting them.That is a net loss. Nobody gains in this scenario except a few immoral people at the top.The state needs the authority to act in the interest of the people at large by shutting down this company.