Who's gonna win?

hundreds of thousands if not millions of democrats sat home because they were sure chillary had it in the bag.
easy to say from a Jow Forums perspective. remember that to the average person we are literally the political equivalent of red rooms

Yes Trump wins. No Dem is igniting the base.

Nah, Xi owns this place, so it's fine, free money

But we know what the polls said last time. The difference now is that in 2016, Trump and Clinton were neck and neck with Clinton slightly ahead. But admittedly, that was few days leading into election day.

Good thing foreign banana republics can't vote in this election

What if China meddles with our election like Russia did and is doing now. China wantr trump OUT.

When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the site
Where I stop and I coom and I go for a bath
Till I get to the bedroom and I COOOOM AGAAAAAAAAIN YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

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Bump

The real deciding factor is now elections are not going to be rigged anymore. Don't even act like we have had legitimate elections thus far. If the numbers didn't add up (a recount) or changing machine votes *always* happened. If Trump was smart and fixed this, then we are all good and he will landslide anyone brought before him.

The only thing that could sink Trump is a useless war, cucking to gun grabbing, or failing on immigration and he is very, very aware of this.

Bumping for genuine interest.

Yes. Jow Forums and its whipped-up MIGA hysteria does not equal his base

Vast majority of Whites (around the world) are racists , even the Bernie ones, Left-wing opposition is shit no real anti imperialism+anti capitalism, so i'll say yes .

If he can be elected with "grab them by the pussy" which means WW will always favor their race instead of women solidarity (so btw , whites actually vote more about race than POCs) , then what can stop him?

Not to mention this stupid country elected Bush 2 times

you bet a dollar on trump to win 2020, you get back 1.20 if you win

the next closest bet is pocohontas and youd get 4.70 if you win

Niggers pull the d lever no matter what. What ever retard they pick is guaranteed to get the black vote. This is why we need to limit who votes.

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How many troops?
We were just "attacked". Now we have to "defend".
Nothing is happening.

50/50, impossible to tell. His opponents are desperate; he's pissed off some of his base, but who else will they vote for?

The dems will win the popular vote again.
The only one who can beat Trump in the States that matter is Biden.
Biden will not be the nominee as the gynarchy has decided there is no way a white man will lead them.

AAHHH IM GONNA

Yes he's going to win

Trump > dems or dems > trump. I'm gonna go with trump may lose, despitevpopular opinion. Because I think trump.lost some of his base with being a jew lover and hurting many farmers. In 2016, he barely won the states like michigan.

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Assuming trends continue, Minnesota goes for Trump. Virginia is a possibility due to Tim Kaine not being on the ticket, and New Hampshire was within 3,000 or so votes. Who knows for sure? If he's campaigning in New Mexico, internal polling must have some sort of logic to it.

Why South American niggers gotta be like this?

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Fuck trump. He sold out to kikes, we need a legit meme candidate.

As long as the democratic party remains soft on immigration and hard on gun control they will lose the election all by themselves.

Honestly I think it's trump's to lose given how batshit insane the left has gone. That being said I learned long ago never to doubt the power of stupid people in large numbers.....

Serious question, why do niggers vote for Biden?
All I've heard about the guy is that he's a cuck to Wall Street even for dem standards and that he's a creep.

>tattoos on back
She'd be perfect if she didn't have tats

Honestly I have no idea what is going to happen, but I'm going to vote for him regardless.

Va has a decent chance to flip. Start pushing the blackface thing from the Governor to dishearten the black vote. Remind them the left doesn't care about racism just Republican racism.
With a good economy Va is absolutely in play.

They have to bother to go to the polls

>do you think Trump is going to win in 2020?
yes, unless another candidate comes up with convincing lies that appeal to his base

Incorrect base is a sleeping majority
>they never thought she would lose

Too many variables in the air right now. The most important factor is the timing of the next black swan or recession. Repo markets almost collapsed this week similar to 2008, so something is up underneath the surface. If the economy does tank, another Lehman event, Warren is a shoe in.

The left doesn't really have anyone. Trump is doing pretty well and has a lot of support, although I and many others disagree with him on things like the bump stocks and the vapes.

>trump has also pissed off a lot of his base
at the end of the day there is not much different between the parties candidates besides supreme court picks and right now with global laser death coming online I would rather live with illegal abortion and rifle than legal abortion and no rifle

youtube.com/watch?v=-miBH10bdCs

Biden is the only one that will drive turnout among the black vote. That is grading on a curve in that he is the least bad option.
The dems will get the lions share of the black vote but the important factor is how many show up.

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Most articles I've seen said that, in general, farmers still favored Trump with the trade war going on, but I guess the news can't be trusted so I'm not sure.
Apart from some low notes like the bump stocks and being a cuck to the MIC (something which every single American president has to do so I can't really blame him), Trump has been objectively one of the best presidents America has had in decades, just looking at the numbers on the economy, unemployment is low, taxes are low, the GDP is rising, China is getting destroyed by the trade war, first US president to have direct diplomatic relations with the DPRK, etc...
Reasonable people who weren't sure about him will now support Trump, specially considering how the Democratic party has only degenerated more and more since 2016. I'd say he's going to lose the popular vote again but win anyways with an even wider margin.

Trump has still been the least involved in the Middle East

I agree with you generally but he is still the best option

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Trump without a doubt

Compared to who? You? Lol

Eyyy, a politics post on Jow Forums. That alone deserves a (You) these days.

The first question is who he's going to run against, and the smart money right now is saying Warren. I tend to believe that because the only plausible alternatives (unless things change dramatically w/i a few months) are Biden and Sanders. Sanders is openly a communist and Biden is a 1.)rich 2.)white 3.)straight 4.)male, i.e. the demographic the Democrats have been shitting all over nonstop for years straight. They would look retarded to run him after all their rhetoric and they're terrified it would suppress the base's votes because the base has been fed this anti-white, anti-man propaganda for fucking ages. Biden likewise seems to be slowing down mentally, especially given all the shrieking from the press about how he's certainly NOT slowing down mentally.

My money is on Warren getting shredded by Trump. She's can't ignore his bait. She took the fucking DNA test and shared the results, one of the dumbest unforced errors I've ever seen. She is extremely thin-skinned and can be painted as a hilariously hypocritical exploiter of "people of color" due to her cheating the affirmative action system. She's too corporate-friendly for the commies in the Dem part and she's too shrilly progressive for the moderates. She's publicly supporting free basically everything, and will support even more free everything by the time the primaries come out. People understand where that money comes from, even if liberals don't.

There are still possible shakeups like the bad, sudden recession the media is desperate to provoke. I don't buy all the foreign policy "Trump's a warmonger" shit, he is blatantly obviously not. It's funny to hear it coming for the people who shilled for the destruction of Libya for no reason at all (other than to steal the gold) but it's pretty easy to disprove - all Trump has to do is not start a war and then point at all the war he didn't start. He'll win.

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The real question is what happens in 2024.

His base loves him, edgy stormfront fags and miga shills are a tiny part of his general base

Russia did nothing of significance to effect our election and neither could China

Millions of Trump supporters stayed home because Hillary had it in the bag, and they had given up on there ever being a viable candidate to vote for. Trump carries 50 states in 2020

I really doubt that he has. The formerly-pro-Trump-but-so-anti-Israel-they're-now-anti-Trump people, while understandable, don't account for more than a tiny fraction of his original base. You have to take into account how utterly batshit the left has been going over the last few years and how sick of it normies are getting. Even totally ignorant apolitical people who pay no attention to this will scoff at the idea of CNN being credible now. The media is the greatest pro-Trump weapon of all time because they're so incredibly bad at being anti-Trump. Americans have been hearing pic related for years now and I don't think most of them like it very much.

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Don’t let shills and internet edge lords confuse you trump is the most popular president ever among conservatives and republicans

He hasn’t lost his base most normies love isreal for some reason

If the left divides, he can win. If not, he's probably fucked up and alienated enough of his base to lose. Before anyone calls me a shill go bring him up on Jow Forums. Not exactly loved over there anymore because of how hard he came at the gun community.

He's probably migrating here as we speak

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They don’t really, they’ll turn out more for Biden then for another white dem but they’ll only turn out like they did for Obama for a black

Nah go read the article about the repo markets it’s a very separate situation from the 2008

I think the truth is everybody that votes voted. A small amount of fraud got stopped. We will see if more stops. I hope Trump wins but I'm not happy with him. Still better than all these morons in the field now.

irony: the post

Sucking on jewish dick and defending the guys who brought you 9/11 is pretty stupid

To this point, perhaps he has won a few dems?

Unfortunately, (((drumpfsky))) will win 2020.

Press F for white Americans.

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Black Trump supporter checking in.

Democrats just pander for votes without actually helping us. But their socialist policies are good for no one, except those already in power. Trump’s the obvious choice.

I'm part of "the gun community;" you need to think about what you're saying here. They don't like Trump, it's true...so they're going to vote for Elizabeth fucking Warren? Or even just sit idle at the chance that enough morons will elect her or someone like her? Fuck no, they'll suck it up and vote R. Guns are the single-est of single-issue, they are the sine qua non of liberty. You're right that the gun community doesn't like Trump but you're wildly overstating how that's going to affect their voting patterns.

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Fair point.

This is the most intelligent post I've read today. Well done.

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French flag. Victim who married his molester is figure head. Country must take more human trash imports cuz EU.

Israeli politicians had to be furious when he moved the embassy. If he just keeps removing blinders, people are going to see who their enemies really are

>Negros will only go to the polls for Joe,
they prefer to vote for Trump, most blacks live in the city, Trump is from the city, so they relate to him because he walks the same streets they do

He may win just because the DNC is incredibly inept, they havent learned shit since last election. Trump is still a worthless shill though

The claim that tariffs are hurting a lot of people is total nonsense

Agricultural Exports to China are like 3% of our agricultural sector. So yeah some random basedbean farmers are getting it on the nose but 97% of people in agg are fine

international trade is effects random parts of the us in ways you wouldn’t expect so damage to trade to China is small enough and random enough that it doesn’t hurt a whole voting block in a way that would cause meaningful damage politically

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>the smart money right now is saying Warren.
at a recent event her turnout wasn't a tenth of what Bernie's was in the same location leading up 2016, usually they pick the biggest crowd with the 2nd biggest crowd, so Bernie + ?

>why is trump doing things all American presidents do and have done

Fuck off shill

Absolutely. But this is more the dems pushing their moderates rightward than anything Trump has done.
I get what you're saying, 100%. I just think those same gun owners aren't going to rallies or proselytizing to their friends anymore. That high energy 2016 win isn't going to be a thing this time around, and that could be a big deal.

But trump literally disses black cities like Pittsburg "full of rats" etc. Insinusting blacks are rats. Also black vote is relatively insignificant.

And red flag laws can eliminate what shouldn't be but are threats to our liberty. Patriots don't try to influence people to violence over the internet. If you find that you are doing so, then the red flag laws are for you, and rightfully so. There's nothing worth killing for that we don't already know

Warren is best case scenario for Trump. She's extremely divisive on the left, and that is the lodestone for a Republican victory. Moderate and progressive Dems unite and its fucking over, boys. We gotta stir up that infighting.

There is no way he wins florida. A whole bunch of Puerto Ricans moved there after the hurricane and they fucking hate him. On top of that felons can now vote, a huge number are black, and blacks always vote D. Without Florida he cn only lose one of the close call midwestern states he won in 2016 and I would wager there are enough gun owners and people who wanted something actually done about immigration to flip at least one. I think he loses a relatively close election.

It’s incredibly disgusting to see the media just beg for recession.

That being said a recession wouldn’t be bad right now, honestly it’s best to have it now we’ll be out of it in 2-3 quarters and most of 2020 would be back in growth mode

Consider timeframe, not location. Nobody draws massive crowds this early on.

MIGAfags SEETHING, I'm American and I can vote in the elections from this place, TULSI 2020

Not a trump fan but he will most definitely win.

Nigger

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If you are living in Bolivia as an American you should kys

Everyone seems to forget candidates matter. Biden is the only one that is an old school centrist, union backed dem. That was the dems source of power for nearly 5 decades. The money and manpower the unions could provide was considerable and the others have walked away from it in favor of identity politics.

Add to that the fact the way they handled the debates meant they had to spend $50 to make $1 instead of roughly $100 to make $1000 and whatever fundraising they have done is pissed away following stupid rules that looked good on paper.

The dems could win if they could just stop stepping on their own dick at every turn. Every choice they have made so far has been wrong.

>But trump literally disses black cities like Pittsburg "full of rats" etc
He said that about Baltimore, and was largely backed up by the community posting angry videos on YouTube and Twitter of generational government mismanagement in their city.

That was a redpill, user. A wake up call for the left. We just all know the american left is incapable of waking up to anything, such is their hubris.

I'm working in a private school, stupid NEET, here they treat me like a God for being white

Nah, Bernie occupies a weird niche. He's hugely popular among the least influential people in the country. There's a lot of them, but all of them together mean much less than a few of the big influencers who support the other candidates. I'm not pulling this out of my ass, Bernie is literally tied with Yang on some of the prediction markets, and Yang is about as likely to get the nom as I am. Bernie has one schtick, and it's "free everything for everyone." He's talked about reparations, free housing, free healthcare, free college, open borders, and on and on. That obviously motivates a lot of idiots, but it counter-motivates a hell of a lot of normies.

Shit, all they'd have to do to beat him would be play the tape of him getting kicked off his own speaking engagement by two BLM screechwhales over and over.

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Based and incredibly redpilled.

>I’m teaching English

Kek you are a failure, how dare you try and call anyone a NEET you stupid bitch I make over 100k a year

>I know I said Assad wasn't a bad guy, but after being briefed by the intelligence community, I now understand why we must begin WW3. We can do this, girl power!

t. Tulsi on her first day in office

Michelle Obama/Oprah Winfrey 2020!

Yeah buddy. They won't unite though, that's the thing about progressivism. If you do anything but become more progressive, presto change-o you're a fascist. They're more allergic to compromise than anyone else in the political spectrum.

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In states that have open primaries we need to get Bernie to 15%. The dems don't have winner take all and if you get over 15% you get that share of the delegates. If the dem convention doesn't have a clear winner and the super delegates have to decide it there will be fist fights on the convention floor.
The dems have been whistling past the graveyard about the divisions in their party and if it explodes during the convention it will be must watch TV.