This is sometimes that I've been pondering over for a while.
If we were to assume that global warming / climate change is a complete hoax and there is no scientific evidence of it - who benefits from the hoax? (((They))) probably don't benefit much, why would (((they))) campaign against their own industries that they've used to control the world's population for decades. What am I missing here?
Conversely, if we were to assume that climate change is really happening, then who would benefit from disseminating false information about it (denying it's existence etc.) Honestly this seems more inline with (((their))) interests but if (((they))) were on this side of the argument then why would (((their))) media be pushing the other side's narrative?
I'm really confused as to who the stakeholders are in this matter - could it simply be that everything is as simple as what is portrayed in media and there are no stakeholders and climate change is real?
And where is the money? It's being pulled from transitional industry and infrastructure (jew owned) and being pushed into newfangled ""clean"" industry (also jew owned).
How the fuck are jews benifiting? That's what I'm asking. From the looks of it, it doesn't seem to benefit jews because it's their owned companies and infrastructure that stands to lose the most if large scale global reforms are made to industry / infrastructure.
Luis Ross
I dunno. I was just trying to tell you what to do. im really bossy!
Angel Reyes
everyone is at the center of the universe. That is not hidden.
Joseph Parker
I think something that Trump once said makes some sense, the Chinks benefit the most because they put ecological handicaps on US/EU industry while having no such handicaps themselves (allowing their industry to be as eco unfriendly as they want) so that the US/EU no longer remain competitive in terms of production.
Again, this doesn't make too much sense to me. I don't think the jews or anyone else wants to create chaos for the sake of chaos.
They would have to benefit off of the chaos in some way - and this benefit isn't monetary in my opinion because the jews have many more, much simpler and easier ways to exploit western society for money.
Is the reason power? Are they trying to build some sort of new world order where they are directly and openly involved in ruling the world (rather than just in the shadows under the guise of normal people)? What's the end goal here?
Jason Wright
>Who gains Anybody who wants to control people via pseudo-religious guilt and group conditioning.
"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy." - Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation
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"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world." - Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment
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“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.” - Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research
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“The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.” - Dr David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University
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"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest." - Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports
Nicholas Gray
they told you what they want
"The goal now is a socialist, redistributionist society, which is nature's proper steward and society's only hope." - David Brower, founder of Friends of the Earth
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"If we don't overthrow capitalism, we don't have a chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecologically sound society under socialism. I don't think it is possible under capitalism" - Judi Bari, principal organiser of Earth First!
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"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme
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"A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation." - Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies
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"The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are." - Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund
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"Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control." - Professor Maurice King
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"We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land." - David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!
Carter Sanchez
Theres more in the CosmeticsAnon thread, but heres the moneyshot
These are all secondary beneficiaries, they all stand to benefit, but after the hysteria of climate change is already well established and NPCs want the government to do something about it.
Who / which group is directly benefiting from it though?
Feminism is being pushed by the elites to ease woman integration into the workforce. Women represent more than half of the population so that means halving the wages. That's why abortion is being pushed as well. No ideology involved, just money.
But with climate acid warming global rain change they can justify pretty much anything. After all, they're "saving the world". If you get in their way then you're a holocaus-, I mean climate denier. THerefore you are against saving the world and they can do what they like to you. Also they can tax you for breathing, and if you don't like it, refer to previous sentence. That's been the ambition of governments everywhere since forever.
the whole solyndra thing was a big scam. how much money was paid by the government to what, 8 or 9 different "alternative energy" companies powered by the Green Deal (iirc) project? there absolutely are stakeholders in this big climate change debacle.
what you should be concerned with is redpilling your peers and fighting this ridiculous misinformation campaign.
(((Ben Shapiro))) look I know he's a jew and all, but he's right on the climate change matter here, folks. The left has come up with nothing regarding an economically feasible solution, and would rather point fingers and divide. It's major piece of the Fake News because it can be used as a cudgel against political dissidents
>what do you mean climate change isn't real user >you aren't one of those climate change deniers, are you?
they're using very specific language, a hallmark of Critical Theory, and Saul Alinsky's brand of bullshit to "mark" people based on how they stand on the views. The point is, is that you will be cut out of the picture, if you don't recognize to them that climate change is a problem.
Human-related or not, you won't win over any lefties arguing about climate change being a thing. Just argue that they have no basis for a real solution, and how miserably Obama's attempt failed. JFC look at the bonuses that the leaders of those companies, the benefactors of the green new deal received at the end of the year. Then look at how many are still in business.
Then all the sudden Obama blows millions on a house that was all part of a book deal? GTFOH
It's another excuse to fleece the unwashed masses, follow the tax dollars and you'll find the culprits.
I brushed away this hoax so I put it aside without delving into the specifics on who exactly is behind it.. I'm just not going to waste anymore time on it. Things are being done to cut back on all kinds of environmental issues.. they're trying to juice a rock at this point. They want to wring us like a damp rag.
These stupid white kids are being used to hold the public by the ankles and shake more coins from our pockets. Who's behind it.. I don't know but you can bet they're white.
Henry Rodriguez
all, I know is that if they really cared about this shit they would want Nuclear power plants, not some fucking ineffective shit like solar or wind that ultimately costs too much for the environment (pieces arent made by magic, and in some places they literally deforest areas to put up the wind turbines) for little to no benefit, unless you in arizona or something solar panels are a stupid investment (dont forget maintenance costs) Seems like a huge scam to me. Reminds me of someone I knew years ago freezing while taking a shower, barely having mild temp water and telling himself that "solar is so good, it was a good investment, its good for the environment" fucking retard
ah suspicious observers, forgot all about him he makes good videos but his voice is so annoying and I cant stand the music he chooses
Ethan Ortiz
Although climate change is a real problem, it is being used by the European Union to pursue its own energy objectives. Europe does not have enough fuels so to have energy independence began to bet on renewables, the problem is that they are more expensive and are making their industry less competitive.
That is why they started with this whole campaign to kill two birds with one stone, make everyone have higher costs just like them and also as they own most of the patents and intellectual property in renewable energy, make everyone have to pay them for them.
I would be in favor of the initiatives if you first waive all those patents so that the gain from the development of renewable energy will not take all of them, and second if you sit down to negotiate on subsidies and agricultural protectionism. As things stand, it is only a business for them.
Connor King
LOL >secondary beneficiaries WTF does that even mean, climatard?
Blake Morris
You're a retard. I heard this same bullshit in school >well imagine a balloon inflating >yeah see there's no center >but also everywhere is the center :^) What a load of garbage. It doesn't even make sense and you just swallow it like the shit eating faggot you are
Sebastian Cruz
if this thread is representative of the quality of modern Jow Forums im fucking outta here
Liam Williams
People who sell "green" tech solutions, most of which are not really green, including solar panels and wind turbines. They have limited lifespans and they'll never pay for their own carbon cost. I think in another 20 years or so when areas like Scotland are having to replace their entire wind farms, we'll see some shit. All of this tech is garbage tier.
And to even out the ups and downs you need to strip mine for rare earth elements to create giant battery farms. $$$$$$.
And to make bio-fuel farms you might, for example, burn down half the Amazon so you can plant bio-fuel crops.
And you're a biologist who wants to study squirrels? Well tough shit. UNLESS.....you say it's a report on how global warming is impacting squirrel populations. Now you're funded. And if your findings are tweaked just a bit to help the narrative along, your next study will be funded too. You can study whatever you like just so long as you give a little help where it's needed.
It's all about 5% science and 95% scam.
Luis Powell
>give non-electable, unaccountable, private organization the authority to sell carbon credits and levy carbon taxes to individuals, corporations, and governments under the pretense of preventing climate change >congratulations you just created a one world governmental agency that essentially has total control over global trade and will be able to pick winners and losers at will, therefore becoming the defacto rulers of the entire planet given enough time
At best it's an unfair money making scheme, at worst it's a dystopian world domination scheme.
Ethan Flores
Yeah let's all leave fellow jewish newfags this is so.... cringe and cope?
Jeremiah Ramirez
Who wins? Simple, Jews win. Because every minute you think about the (((issue))) they want you thinking about, is one less minute thinking about their destruction of your entire race.
They play both sides of most issues, and fund both sides. I’ve read evidence of this going back to Spain during the reconquista against the moors.
Jacob Gomez
A lot of 'green energy' manufacturing is done in israel.
Canada and russia win if climate change is real (which it is, brainlets).
Nolan Ward
some combo of increased taxes, paris agreement type scam of redistributing international wealth, shifting away from big oil to make the oil people have less power, probably some more tin foil hat endgame type shit too
Energy is the largest single sector of every economy no matter the development level. Energy is literally "the ability to do work". CO2 is a byproduct of about 80% of our sources of energy when you consider our three main demand; Electricity, heating, transportation fuel. But controlling, regulating and taxing CO2 you gain control over 80% of the largest sector of every economy.
It's a simple path from tax and regulate to control and dominate.
>TFW every single other nation is heavily concentrated on low lying coastal zones >TFW China has 100% of their educated population on the coast It's over. America always wins. Plus, that goddamn seaway is gonna open over Canada and the US is gonna have exit and entry access to the toll. We've won. Again.
Plus, in the future water is the most scare resources. America has THE LARGEST WATER RESERVES OF ANY COUNTRY, FLAT OUT. X50. It's done. We won.
Ethan Hernandez
climate change is really about bringing in the one world government. think about it, how will you make sure each country is abiding by certain emission standards unless you have global body that has the ability to regulate and carry out fines. this will eventually morph in other areas of life.
just as the EU was intially started to help with coal and steel and has now morphed into telling every country they need to take unlimited migrants and allow trannysex for kids. global warming will do the same but for the globe.
Luis Cruz
This is great user thanks.
Luis Hall
Lets all just get ready to defend the great lakes. They will be coming for the water soon.
Jaxson Thomas
Frankly, yes. Our top concern should be securing Latin America, because China is going to use it as a subversive jumping off point to destabilize America.
Jordan Brooks
I don't need hot climate, you sub Satan. Please, leave us with our snow and blizzards, and gloomy weather.
Liam Williams
Nigger, are you really that brainwashed? We, actually, have the biggest amount of fresh water on the planet. It's not even close to compare.
Whoever settled a worldwide scientific military dictatorship in anarctica before its ice melts and floods the earth. Nigggaaa it's too late hahahahahahahahahahaha
-t.Rofschild Island resident
Oliver Hernandez
The first person to develop, perfect, and patent terraforming technology will not only be able to make a killing here on earth, but will also be able to private claim ownership and sovereignty of Venus after they vent some of the atmosphere.
