I'm pretty sure this is the best place to ask this. But I'm really interested in gun safety and when it really started to become like a thing you know. I've seen old movies and no showing no trigger discipline and that usually isn't a clear representation of how things really are.
Pic related made me really question it though. WW2 was maybe the greatest war that men and women fought in and the world had already a war behind them. I can see trigger discipline not being a thing because the men and women were dodging shells and gas attacks etc so who cares if you have your finger on the trigger because you're about to get gassed but did it become a thing in ww2 you know for whatever reason?
tl;dr When did trigger discipline become a thing and was it WW2?
It always was a thing. It's just very loudly promoted now because of lack of manual safeties.
Ryan Myers
I believe it first started off as a way to index your hand into proper position on the 1911. And then as most things do, it carried over into law enforcement and then civilians.
Matthew Thomas
>tl;dr When did trigger discipline become a thing and was it WW2?
iirc, trigger discipline was taught in the US military after Vietnam.
Christian Gomez
It's pretty much always been a thing, but nothing is springing to my mind before WWII.
when reading Otto Carius's memoir Tigers in the Mud, a careless German tanker sprayed and killed an accompanying infrantryman with the coaxial MG34 before an operation. He would've been strung up for not following proper procedure (no live ammo, gun pointed as high as it can be) resulting in death, but they were literally seconds from rolling out in an offensive, so the sentencing had to be postponed.
And here's a kinda inaccurate account from The Pacific where an enlisted man is completely in the right to berate an officer for his lack of muzzle discipline >youtube.com/watch?v=Mu51rszgotI Inaccurate because the Asiatic sergeant throws coral at the Lt to catch him off guard, and then run up to take control of his weapon.
It was common practice to have your finger inside the trigger guard, you just wouldn't point at anything you didn't wanna shoot and you just wouldn't pull the trigger.
>It wasn't totally out of the ordinary to see commandeered insurgent weapons being used by coalition or pmc during the war on terror >t. Elmer
Jayden Nguyen
Grand theft Flugabwehrkanone
Jason Evans
It's been around a for a long, long time. People were simply more laid-back and confident about it back in the day. The way it used to be was if you knew a gun was unloaded or uncocked, it didn't matter. Plus, people were not taught gun safety as part of big communities back then, they were self-taught or grew up with it. Thus, they simply didn't have it ingrained into them like people do today.
Jason Perry
i think the 4 safety rule of firearm was invented by some David dude around the 1960s
>There were a few Russian snipers used in desperation/for propaganda so I guess there were disabled women in the British army I think you would like Reddit more friendo
The russians were the only ones who did this and it was mostly a propaganda thing.
Kevin Brown
Based Finns.
Gavin Hernandez
>jeff cooper >david
Matthew Reed
Fucking Jow Forumsindergartner. Women on the front lines was not and still isn't prolific. There might have been instances of women fighting in armed conflicts in the modern era but it's nothing like what these fucking game "devs" want to promote.
Julian Ross
you're right, being safe is absolutely based.
Jaxon Morales
ever heard of a nurse?
Isaac Perez
You sound like a fag. Do you own a clearing bucket too? Maybe spend 3 hours cleaning one gun cause you have to follow the 4 rules to the letter cause this clearly unloaded gun may fire cause they are magic? People who are this concerned about safety are a detriment to gun rights, because it makes the gun grabbers think guns are able to just go off, be dangerous at all times.
Gabriel Sanchez
Read "the unwomanly face of war" by svetlana alexeivich, she interviews every Soviet female soldier she can, most of them never even got photographed and were simply part of the unit. Very few got special treatment, mainly due to Soviet women not having a gibmedat kind of attitude like modern Western women have. They were brought up to work for what they have and that they're worth nothing but the sum of their actions
Kayden Ross
>dodging shell and gas attacks
Daniel Cooper
the only place a female should be on the battlefield is a nurse, or tied to a pole as the penile relief station.
Parker Ward
if you're going to be pedantic like that, nobody "dodged" anything
William Ross
Holy shit, guy on the right looks exactly like the Doc from TF2
Leo Johnson
come again?
Jack Lee
From what I understand, "safety" just meant safety off, finger off the trigger when you were on a patrol or whatever. Especially the Russians
Connor King
>Actually thinks women that went "through a war" would say they had it easy.
>WW2 was maybe the greatest war that men and women fought in >men and women Commie propaganda doesn't count and they were too busy getting raped by their own comrades to fight. They were literally brought around like we did with war bond tours except you actually had to fight before you went on a war bond tour.
In their defence, vehicle theft in Battefield games is pretty much a staple
Tyler Smith
>getting triggered by shit bait Jow Forums has really slipped
David Ramirez
>But I'm really interested in gun safety and when it really started to become like a thing you know. You must be the most boring person on the planet. How can you even be INTERESTED much less "REALLY INTERESTED" in something like gun safety?
Ryan Martinez
Gender equality.
John James
How many men get their dicks exposed and photographed postmortem?
Lucas Phillips
wtf, this is the last post that had anything to do with the thread. I don't give a fuck if you're an impotent manchild, but can't you keep it on topic? Women aren't ebil cuz you can't get laid, neither should regs be catered towards them.
Fucking Christ, this thread is about the history of firearms safety procedure, I'm so sick of how devolved this board has gotten.
Evan Collins
whenever a US soldier gets killed in an IED attack, EOD technicians and Air Force guys look over the corpse to identify what kind of IED it was and what wounds to expect. It is done with the body in the nude, and pictures are almost certainly taken
Jace Green
Older guns tended to have heavy triggers or some kind of safety. People also didn’t handle their sidearms frequently in battle if they even had them. With a rifle it probably wouldn’t be chambered or would be on safe.
Leo Kelly
>shoot it like you stole it
Blake Martinez
Field hospitals don’t tend to be at the front.
Dylan Wood
If other people are around you should observe all rules of gun safety. Redundancy is there to make up for human fallibility. If you shoot for long enough under varying circumstances, you will lose focus at some point and fuck up at least one of the rules. This could include something like slipping and muzzle-sweeping someone (example of this in nutnfancy video) or suddenly forgetting you're holding a gun after a piece of hot brass lands in your shirt.
If the only person you're at risk of harming is yourself, feel free to be as unsafe as you want. While keeping a bucket full of sand in your house is retarded, you should at least have a safe direction to point in. That is the bare minimum to avoid hurting someone else.
Ryder King
Funny I don't see a goofy robotic arm anywhere in this picture
Brody Morris
> I'm so sick of how devolved this board has gotten >Can't even reply to a post right