>It's 1947 >3rd year of Operation Westland >Pretty much all of US urban areas are heavily bombarded >US Navy is inexistant >US Air Force are but a shambling skeleton >Großdeutsches Reich Fleet, consisting of more then 20,000 wessels is approaching US home soil
Farmers take ahotguns and murder pussy-ass krauts. End of problem
Luis Baker
Start hiding my guns before they are confiscated under occupation
Carter Hughes
The biggest problem with the man in the high tower, both the book and tv show is the implication that Germany or Japan has anywhere near enough manpower to occupy the US, even if they had magic tech and plot wankery.
Austin Bell
Do you really think after three years of facing an enemy, being able to perform a massive strategic bombing campaign, USA would be able to pull of Manhattan project?
Also: I'm quite aware this is Full My magical realm scenario.
Levi Rivera
I guess join the resistance and get killed by a captured Nazi Sherman tank while trying to blow up a railroad or something. I know "Murica" and all but at this point the government would definitely have surrendered.
Jack Brooks
Ally with the krauts to remove the yellow menace
Jaxon Gutierrez
Guerilla warfare In this scenario, history would repeat itself. It would be the 2nd American war of independence.
Matthew Reed
Honestly it was a great book
Cameron Gray
Join a resistance movement and kill some nips After that, ally with the Germans
Christian Wood
>2nd American war of independence So what European power is going to be propping us up this time?
Kayden Harris
Italy
Leo Long
Join with the Nazi, they did nothing wrong.
John Taylor
Kill yourself, faggot
Evan Sanchez
>pull 30,000 wessels out of my ass if wehraboos can do it so can I
Come on man, the holocaust was a lie. Okay look at like this. >WWII happening 2 sides had some people they needed out of the way to make sure there was no problem. >America sets up camp for all Japanese They did this because they dont know who will mess shit up, spy or be enemy >Germany sets up camp for all Jews Between WWI and WWII there was a near civil war with a group mostly made of jewish people killing to take control of Germany. Hitler could not take the chance of them trying to make another power grab. >Horrible conditions >US Food for all camps, housing etc >Germany Months of bombing supply lines and resources. Who feels the pain? Civilians and of course camps to the point they get nothing because there is 1. nothing left 2. no way to get it there. I am not a bad person, but history is often written by the victor, way to many stories now do not may logical sense in any way.
Julian Young
er make logical
Jason Lewis
>I am not a bad person You are, though. You're discounting the deaths of millions so that you can feel like you're special for knowing something everyone else doesn't.
Kayden Gray
I join the good guys obviously.
(And that means the Axis btw)
William Murphy
gerilla war against germans, make every step painful.
Christian Howard
More "millions" died than there were alive. Nice try. I understand some abused the situation like Heinrich Himmler testing on those in camps to be horrible. Some abuses were done, but both sides did it. No excusing it but reasons why need to be clearly laid out in history books.
Lincoln Price
>How do you handle this?
By looking at the realities of the situation
>all of US urban areas are heavily bombarded By what, launching from where? Germany never had the logistical capability to mount this type of campaign, nor did they ever achieve the technological ability to field a strategic bomber. So, I think we can safely disregard this part as desperation propaganda.
>US Navy is inexistant That’s an awkward way of saying nonexistent, but whatever. This part isn’t even remotely plausible, since we were capable of launching ships faster than the Axis could sink them. Again, more cartoon-tier propaganda to be ignored.
>US Air Force are but a shambling skeleton Not surprising, since the USAF didn’t come into existence until September, 1947. Depending on the month this fantasy is happening, the USAF either wasn’t around or was 7 staff officers, a jeep, and a Quonset hut. Now, the US Army Air Forces was a whole nother story. A little over 2.1 million personnel in 1944, and 80K aircraft. Lets extrapolate this out to 1947, just for the hell of it- In 1943, the US built 84K aircraft. In 1944, the US built 96K aircraft, or about a 12% increase. Lets assume that production didn’t drop in 1945, but increased by another 12%, giving us 107K new aircraft in that year. For simplicity lets say that’s max capacity, so we can add another 107K aircraft for 1946. This gives us a 3 year total accumulation of 310K aircraft. Factoring for combat losses, which were 17%, we still have over a quarter million aircraft available. Roughly 2/3 of that number would be combat aircraft. So, about 170K combat aircraft ready to roll. Now we get to-
>Großdeutsches Reich Fleet, consisting of more then 20,000 wessels is approaching US home soil First off, you really chewed up that wubbleyew in “wessels”. Secondly, 170K combat aircraft means each and every one of those wessels gets a personal visit by 8 or 9 combat aircraft.
1/2
John Morris
>history is written by the victors you are not wrong, but you sound like a total wehraboo.
Jace Perry
>tfw my supervisor actively talks about how "the Japanese invaded the US as far as Montana" >ask him how/what proof >"I don't know man, just look it up."
>Großdeutsches Reich Fleet, consisting of more then 20,000 wessels is approaching US home soil >A functional, useful, large, capable German Navy
Lolno
Jace Parker
Fine with that, as long as others research history a little more and see things are not what is told to them in school.
Parker Butler
>Farmers take ahotguns and murder pussy-ass krauts.
t. delusional ruralfag
Juan Foster
>More "millions" died than there were alive. I see, and which Youtube video are you getting this from?
Colton Garcia
>nazis were bad specifically because of the holocaust
nazis were bad because they started a world war.
Jace Lewis
2/2
We can figure that 5 of those 8 or 9 are bombers, the remainder are fighter escorts carrying a single 500 pound bomb each. At the end of the day, all that’s left of the Kriegsmarine is a big wet spot and an oil slick.
There, OP. You happy? When does summer school start for you?
Brandon Robinson
>Do you really think after three years of facing an enemy, being able to perform a massive strategic bombing campaign, USA would be able to pull of Manhattan project?
Answer: >this is Full My magical realm scenario.
So, yes.
Cooper Robinson
What? Is he retarded?
Daniel Parker
Russia
Angel Evans
Between a Reich and a hard place.
Ryder Adams
Join the Reich with as much equipment and Intel as I can bring and sabotage everything I can't.
Samuel Ortiz
>corrupt government helps rebels rebel against their corrupt government
all they'd do is send us weapons and have us do the dirty work, then swoop in at the end and take control of the country.
Oliver Sullivan
Celebrate with my family in our village in Croatia. Our relationship with Germany was very good and locally stationed German troops protected the population from communists.
Jackson Lewis
>way to many stories now do not may logical sense in any way. Including the fairy tale you just posted. Do you get migraines from the mental gymnastics it takes to believe that tripe?
Are you unable to read parameters here? This is description of USA being involved in an actual war, not some petty last-minute-appearances like Normandy.
Hunter Phillips
...The site you linked directly refutes your claim?
Jaxon Hill
Right? Because partisans in Russia totally didn’t tie up regiments of Germans in security work.
Brody Cooper
Listen, Do I believe some were killed? yes. Do I believe some were tested on? yes. It was a shit show on many levels. But mass gassing, cremation or others? no. That is a LOT of jews everywhere sure. but 66% died? Come on. They didnt even have enough fuel or bullets to kill and cremate the remains. Do I think the jews were rounded up? yes, totally agree. Just like the Japanese.
Adrian Hughes
So, lets see here- 9.5m jews in Europe at the start of the war, 6m die in the camps. That somehow becomes more dying than were alive...whoever homeschooled you didn’t do a very good job.
Jace Bailey
Why do people get all mad over stupid shit that happened over 70 years ago? WW2 will be just another war once the last veteran dies and nobody will give a shit anymore, just like with WW1 and every war before it.
Jonathan Williams
You could have just said "no, u" and we would give the same amount of shit
Angel Reyes
you sound like a reasonable person, not too common to find that when talking about this kind of stuff.
William Rodriguez
yeah I know, I just like getting people to look more into history. Like General Custard getting a metal for killing unarmed indian families on their assigned reservation.
Asher Lewis
>but 66% died? Come on Congratulations, you're starting to grasp how terrible the Holocaust was and why people get annoyed when you deny it happened.
Jacob Hughes
bah medal.
Charles Watson
>They didnt even have enough fuel or bullets They were well aware of this and put significant effort into coming up with more efficient means of mass murder.
Nathaniel Reed
Wake up because dumb bullshit like this can only be a dream from delusional fucktards
Ok, so where is Germany getting this magical fleet of theirs? Where are their bombers launching from? For that matter, when did they get strategic bombers? Don’t give me any of your woo-woo magic pixie dust makes it happen bullshit, make it plausible. It’s horseshit, but if you flavor it right people will like it, even though they know it’s horseshit. Your biggest problem is making an attack on the continental US believable. You haven’t done that yet. All you’ve done is invoked magic reasons. I’m just digging into our massive strategic stockpile of unicorn horns, and dispelling your magic.
Benjamin Nguyen
Maybe he meant those bomb balloons they sent over. Not sure on the depth of penetration but several of them made it to USA.
Connor Thomas
There's nothing to dispel. These are the parameters, work with them. We all know this is all fictional.
Adam Taylor
Even back then, a gas room was pointless. You have to round them in. Gas. Wait for clearing. Then remove. Gas mask filters only work for so many hours. Why not mass needle injection. just use air. Reuse same needle. Same result. little to no setup or cost. None of it makes sense.
Gabriel Turner
>all they'd do is send us weapons and have us do the dirty work Good, if a bunch of shithead nazis came rolling down my street you bet I'd be glad to start shitting on them with an SKS or something.
Unfortunately, Russia was hyper poor then and couldn't afford to arm its own military, so arming us would be a pipe dream. Americans already had our own domestic guns back then, Remingtons and lever action Winchesters would take to the streets, Krauts would be constantly bombarded with dated military equipment.
Elijah Hill
What are you, some kind of fag? Obviously the only choice is to join SS Oppengruppen Cowboyferien.
Blake Martin
Dirty, sweaty, thirsty, starving, and afraid I'll fight and possibly die in the face of what could be insurmountable odds. If we win and I live I'll raise patriotic children and tell stories of slotting Japs and Nazis in my home the Arizona desert. If I die then I die on my own terms, a man free of the oppression of foreign occupation, killed and body mutilated but killed with a rifle in my hands. Get fucked Nazi scum, it's a dry heat.
Grayson Rodriguez
>Why not mass needle injection The gas chambers were as much for the killers as anything. Even the most heavily indoctrinated soldiers with a firm belief that they're justified in killing "subhumans" still do not have the stomach to personally kill unarmed human beings by the thousands. Gas chambers are sterile, clinical and impersonal.
Sebastian Ortiz
>WW2 will be just another war once the last veteran dies and nobody will give a shit anymore Except for the socialists that want us to help them burn everything to the ground because reasons.
David Martinez
They are dangerous as hell. 1. you have mass amounts of people causing group fears and numbers issue 2. you have to seal it 3. you have to contain it 4. clearing will take time It is the WORST way of mass killing in all levels. Any idiot who ever worked on a farm will tell you that noooooo bad idea.
Jeremiah Bell
>None of it makes sense. Many people turn to conspiracy theories because it's easier for them to believe that someone would make these things up than that human beings are actually capable of doing all the awful shit that we do.
Samuel Mitchell
Niggers in Africa don't seem to have a problem with torturing and killing hundreds of thousands of their own kind.
Robert Hernandez
In what magical land Hitler used to be anything but a tool of Fed, working frantically to dismantle the British Empire?
Jose Rogers
Would giving them food with slow acting but lethal poison be a better option? They could blame it on disease.
Isaiah Flores
I've already confirmed that Heinrich Himmler is a monster. He would test on babies if it got him what he wanted. Issue is people in camp like settings are targets for those that would do harm to anyone. Like Haiti and Clinton Foundation. They went after the weak and took it. Air is easier, no cost. Slow acting. Death is a result. Slow acting poison is the same but you still have to import in. When getting bombed all the times by the enemy it wouldnt work for re-supply.
Leo Barnes
>We all know this is all fictional.
Yes, we do. And you seem to be inordinately butthurt by me pointing out that it’s really bad fiction. There’s no internal logic or consistency to this fiction, so any changes I make to the story line are just as canon as the drivel that was posted in the OP.
>These are the parameters, work with them. I did, explaining my logic every step of the way. You’re just being assmad because I didn’t move the storyline in the direction you fantasized it going toward. Get over it. Learn to establish better boundaries for your fictional universe, and determine the focus of the internal logic. And be consistent. That’s what makes George Lucas’ crap palatable- internal logical consistency. His stories have shit physics, shit politics, shit economics, and shit plots. What makes them enjoyable is visual appeal, snappy dialogue, and internal logical consistency. We don’t have the medium here for the first 2, so you’re hanging your hat on the third. It’s sorely lacking, so I hijacked your story line. Now you’re stuck with the internal logic I supplied. Unless you want to delete this thread and start over with a better written OP.
>Any idiot who ever worked on a farm will tell you that noooooo bad idea.
Not aware of any farms that use gas chambers for any reason. What the hell kind of dystopian ag hell are you imagining. On the other hand, there are quite a few field crops that are routinely tented and gassed with methyl bromide, chloropicrin, or dichloropropene. So, yes, for effective mass killing, gas is the way to go.
Benjamin Mitchell
>Air is easier, no cost. Slow acting Air embolism is not slow acting. It’s also labor intensive.
Robert Hall
A cartoon is your answer?
Evan Flores
Enlist in the wehrmacht and continue to purge the degenerates and enstablish a long lasting Aryan dominion.
I doubt Japan would keep the western half. They would probably use it as a bargaining chip to keep the pacific islands and the eastern section of Russia and maybe Alaska.
They're good people though so whatever. They can have commiefornia.
Levi Barnes
Zyklon B is a powder. You dump it in a moderately sealed room, it hangs in the air exactly like flour, everything dies, it settles on the floor, you sweep it up because it is no longer in the air and therefore dangerous, and it's ready to be used over and over and over again.
Christopher Clark
>inexistant >shambling skeleton >wessels No one want to visualize your wet dream Adolf. GO back to sleep
go under cover, deep undercover, and join the ranks of the German Army. After so many years, I''l be a top military advisor or report directly under a few. I'll drop the subtle hints that we should own the entire country and not split it with Japan >why should they get half of the fucking country? Theyre going to get all of the Philippines and south east Asia >they didnt have to fight a two front war >they dont deserve it, its our right as Aryans to have the most fertile land
Ill have my colleagues on Japan states being doing the same, soon a civil war will spark and in the ashes the american resistance will rise or take everyone down with us
It’s clearly the Canadians and Mexicans allowing the krauts and japs to set up shop in their backyards so they can bomb the shit out of us. Always knew those two were up to no good
Matthew Reyes
>all these mutts itt
Brody Jones
>texas >suffering from anything that isnt a soft invasion of Mexicans Nice try like.
William Gutierrez
Oh that’s an easy one. Use the army air force instead and go full on Atlantic wall on steroids. Then do the same to the west coast. While we’re at it, we might as well wall off Mexico too and open up a service for citizenship kind of deal for them so we can use them as canon fodder when the jap and hun inevitably try to invade. So almost every able bodied man and our mexican volunteers get mobilized. As for the navy question. Well since the navy doesn’t exist anymore, let’s make it exist again. So a tldr of this nonsensical post is. More bodies, more dakka
Robert Harris
>European colonies across Africa >soviet union >Australia Maybe a few countries in south America.
Luke Perry
Yes, OP seems to be quite the mongrel
Brayden Brown
What's Italy up to in this scenario? You know, the Axis European power with an actual navy?
Bentley Rogers
>all these mutts itt On an American website?!? Unbelievable.
Angel Jones
>How do you handle this? patriotically find the recruiter's office and apply for the SS
Carter Rogers
Join up with the Klan guerillas that have surely formed up and retake the South. Many people don't remember that the Klan hated Germans more than they hated niggers, understandable whem you look at how Krauts ruin Germamy every 100 years or so, and I've seen the quote "I'd rather have my daughter marry a nigger than a Kraut" more than once.
Gabriel Baker
>the Klan and the blacks team up to fight the Nazis
Kevin Torres
Pull nukes out of my ass just like this premise.
Wyatt Sanchez
The parts per million to make zyklon B lethal would require a fucking team of krauts to be snow shoveling it through the unsealed wood door in full view of the kikes for tens of minutes during their (((shower)))
At least the post war carbon monoxide Chambers the Soviets built were actually capable of killing people effectively. They had the practice, you know from all the fucking gulags.
Luis Powell
Or, it would require a steady trickle through an air intake in an otherwise sealed room. Zyklon is literally a Cyanide compound, and has been packaged with conspicuous skulls and poison warnings loooooong before it was ever used to deliberately kill people. Less than a teaspoon's worth of the stuff in your lungs will kill you by binding up all your cell receptors.
Christian Stewart
Perhaps, once the Krauts started rounding them up.
Jason Barnes
>1947 Send MacArthur and a detachment of scientists to recover the crashed alien technology in New Mexico, and develop weapons that can be beamed to the heart of Germany through teleportation. Also, how the hell did the krauts manage to get the manpower to invade the ENTIRE eastern seaboard?
Think for 5 seconds how large a teaspoons worth of a compound is when you're talking a gaseous substance. 200 kikes in a room and you have 10-30 square feet of aerated zyklon/b/ for each of them? In a room with no magic vent until the commies crudely cut one into the roof 20 years later? It'd literally be easier to just fucking shoot them. Orvdrown them. Or dry drown them with CO2 or diesel exhaust. At least from personal experience the Russians knew the latter worked
Chase Miller
Literally have it in a compartment above them, and then open some slats in the floor. Piles of powder come falling down, aerosols itself, and then with nothing else to breathe, anything in the room has to breathe that. It's the same design as delousing chambers, which were everywhere, but sealed for more than a few seconds.
>Literally have it like no (((gas chamber))) is set up >Piles of powder... >Shoveled through the door >In a (((shower))) with no shower heads >Two nervous krauts shoveling the contents of 30-100 cans of delousing agent into a room next to the commanders office as 200 Jews stare on >Then waiting hours for 1. The powder to reach ppm to actually kill people and 2. For it to be safe to dispose of the bodies >Then burn the kikes bodies to undetectable Ash faster than a modern crematorium
Henry Anderson
>>Shoveled through the door You are the only one who ever said this. >>Two nervous krauts shoveling the contents of 30-100 cans of delousing agent into a room next to the commanders office as 200 Jews stare on Again, this is your strawman