What kind of super-weapons could exist as an alternative to nukes without the radioactive after effects?

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The firebombing of Japan was more destructive and lethal than both nukes combined.

Ion cannon.

EMPs?

Send one of those 100+ car double stacked storage container freight trains, but instead of freight, pack as much octanitrocubane in each storage container as physically possible.

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>What kind of super-weapons could exist as an alternative to nukes without the radioactive after effects?
Globalism.

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Africans. Send lots in. You have to kill them off later but will do a great job in destroying a country to the point of they will not fight back just to get rid of the africans.

I think Metal Gear or COD covered this a couple years ago. Drop a big ass metal rod from space and it’ll have the force to level a small city.

>he thinks the orbiting telephone pole dropper concept is only as old as Metal Gear or CoD

DO AMERICANS REALLY

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs
>30% lighter than MOAB
>400% greater yield
>can be deployed from supersonic Tu-160
If Vatnik’s claims are in fact true, this fucker sounds pretty damn effective.

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Stonehenge or SOLG (sans warhead.)

Biological and chemical warfare have the potential to be far more deadly and devastating than nuclear weapons ever were, or ever will be. Imagine a new plague carried airborne by wind, plants, spores, and animals, wiping out 85% of a continent before a cure could be found.

photon torpedoes

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>What is reading comprehension

FLEIJA

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They'd be effective, but people tend toward hyperbole when talking about them.

The reality is that you still have put all that kinetic energy into the rods with a rocket, so you're limited there, and they have to be going slow enough that they won't escape earth orbit. Now, earth orbital speeds are fucking fast, but we're talking a several-block radius, not cities. The advantage is that they could short-notice strike almost anywhere on the planet and there's no real defense against them.

>anything metal is now radioactive
>clean
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Well, here comes the neighborhood!

I actually thought about this and came up with the best possible alternative: Cloning. If we cloned velociraptors and air dropped mating groups of them into the habitable wilderness of enemy countries we would fuck their infrastructure to a point of no return within a few months. They would have to up their resources on hunting parties, security parties for farms, and basic day to day life would become miserable with a new apex predator to worry about. In short, I believe it would cause a war of attrition from within.

GB nerve agent, can clean out entire neighbourhoods from the bedbugs to the insurgents and no gas mask can stop it because a drop on your skin anywhere will do you in. As a delightful bonus it'll become harmless inside an hour so your lads can march on in without any resistance.

For weapons of mass destruction that leave the area ripe for occupation it's unparalleled.

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God rods

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Dumb ass, the rods are constructed in space out of available resources

>it is more efficient to mine kilometer long cylinders of moon rocks to be used as direct kinetic impact weapons dropped from orbit to level cities
I really wish I was born 100 years later. Going to miss so much cool shit.

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just hypothetically? or realistically?

Hypothetically: HEAVY OBJECTS

realstically: other WMD such as nerve gas

neutron bombs are NOT people killing magic weapons. there is going to be an explosion that is just as large if not larger than Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The difference is that the Neutron radiation is released, resulting in a lower yield and causing the neutrons to actually travel farther than the fireball. The reason for this is because modern battle tanks are otherwise very survivable to nuclear weapons, but the Neutron radiation will irradiate and kill the crew

superior taste

if technology has gotten to that point then fighting over cities with rods from good is kinda obsolete anyway

WEATHER
MANIPULATION

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This is probably the best response you'll get.

Very massive objects dropped from near space could hit with the force of a nuke. A tungsten rod may be the best, I used to think a silicone ball would be good but it is probably too light and may be moved off course by wind and varying atmospheric densities. If silicone worked, maybe a silicone rod would be enough to avoid moving off course by variables. That would be truly awesome, make them flesh colored, and you've got dildos from the heavens. They'd be hitting the earth with many times the energy release of a tactical nuke.

well, by heavy objects I was talking more about the shitty anime but literally heavy objects will be effective too if they are heavy enough

Make the tsar bomb but eithout the nuke effect and replace it with napalm and make some kind of engineering magic on it and that should do the trick.

Test it on Japan to see what happens.

worst post of the day on Jow Forums, 5/29/18

>If Vatnik’s claims are in fact true

Are they ever?

See, shit like this is what scares me. I don't live close to anywhere worth nuking, but it's still a big enough suburban area that nerve agent or firebombing might be warranted during an invasion.

Kinetic bombardment

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You lazy faggots

So basically The Zone?

Aerodynamic atmospheric penetrators fired from a lunar rail gun

If i was really lazy I'd keep my post up

Retards, all of you. Kinetic bombardment is nowhere near as destructive as nuclear weapons and neutron bombs are not "clean" in the slightest. Fuck off summerfags.

Drones/cruise missiles spreading bioweapons.

Biological weapons

Biological weapons are stadistic weapons, that is, they kill percentages of population and not populations in absolute numbers like the ammount of people in a square or getting caught by shrapnel.

They work slowly, build up a reservoir in the population and then will result in either death or crippling the individuals involved, which in turn could result in additional deaths because you have degraded the enemy's ability to effeciently man his industry or infrasctructure and also forced it to waste money and time to take care of the afflicted.

Mind you, biological warfare includes germs, toxins(like abrin/ricin) and ecological warfare. That means that you can target the food supply of the enemy too, causing damage even beyond the timeframe the war is waged on, crippling the future generations or even forcing them to rely on your own safe food supply(food supply that could suffer a fatal shortages if the enemy doesn't behave) after the war.

Oh, and with genetic engineering, you can alter the ratios of morbidity, lethality and incapacitation like if they were in a slider(althought there are some hard limits, you will never exterminate a population with a bioweapon, only reduce the population to fatal numbers in the best case scenario)

Biological warfare is a pretty interesting subject after all for those who cannot get their hands into radioactive stuff.

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Whoever made this infographic has no idea what they are talking about.

Relativistic kill weapons.

Just put your spaceship in the orbit of pluto and start accelarting towards Earth. By the time you reach 10% the speed of light you would absolutely vaporize anything the size of Australia(and possibly, cause a giant cataclism in the whole planet)

Thought visually spectacular, they did it wrong.

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>having enough deltav for relativistic velocity

you got 2 choices user: take a few thousand years to get to that speed, or not have enough fuel to get to that speed.

I can't let this user get away with everyone ignoring how fucking stupid he is

user, you're a fucking retard

Kinetic bombardment is better against hardened targets

>humanity never hunted/harassed pest animals to death
BUT IT'S A DINOSAUR
we wrecked gray wolves, who arguably occupied a similar geological niche. We literally destroy any species that even bothers us in the slightest. Just because you used to pretend to be a raptor and chase other kids around when you were a freshman doesn't mean they're magically unkillable

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Communism.

This.
Even small scale terrorism with them is relatively easy.
>get some anthrax bacteria
>let those fuckers mutiply
>make some bacteria goo out of it
>dry it up for bit to get bacteria powder
>get one of those planes that are used to spread pesticides over crop fields
>fly over a city during non-windy night and release the powder

You need a little bit of research for that tho.

Not ALL anthrax is equally lethal of effective, you have to either get access to the highly infective strains that labs use for investigation, or start making anthrax cultures and experiment them on people(this is really important, rats and cats might do but if the strain first came throught a person it's much more lethal)to achieve good results.

Someone's seen Jurassic World a few too many times.

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Bio weapons. Small pox and the bubonic plague mixed together was a goal of the Soviets at one point, something which would be, to put it lightly, Very Bad. Other than that? Really big railguns, maybe.
There's a fun idea where you dig a hole, put a nuke at the bottom, cover the top with a bit of tungsten, and set off the nuke. Depending on how tightly you control the cone of the resulting spray of sublimating tungsten you get anything from an Orion propulsion drive to the single most destructive thing humanity has yet considered. Set up the tungsten right and you can also get yourself the world's biggest gun, powered by a nuclear explosion and using a minibus worth of tungsten.
Or, considering a nuke is just a real big explosion, you could just get a big ass pile of tnt.

cultural Marxism

you quoted someone denouncing KE and Neutron, fucktard

other considerations that need to considered are delivery which is much ore difficult than you'd imagine. the Aum Shinrikio tried and failed miserable with bio weapons. no one actually got sick because they couldn't disperse the powder. Particles of the pathogen need to be less than 12 microns in size, and they also need to be electrostatically charged so as not to stick to each other

conventional wouldn't work. you need the radiation of the nuclear device to vaporize the water into steam

But he was a boy and raptors are clever girls.

Kinetic bombardment would be equivalent to the power of the launching rocket blowing up on the launch pad. Not quite a nuclear blast but definitely knocking down a few blocks.

Invading a country under the excuse of being "refugees" until you can seize control, (RIP UK)

We're talking about orbital drops not ground launched railguns, which also aren't rocket powered.

Antimatter or small supernovae.

Are you some kind of dumb person or something

Isn't it impossible to make that shit in large quantities tho?

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What the fuck even are photon torpedoes

"Everything that conducts a measurable amount of electricity has been rendered unusable"

Nigga wht

Antimatter bombs

Literally ion propulsion

Actually they determined the things suck a pretty big dick. They could take out a building, not a city or even a few blocks. The cost for effect rate is fucking insane.

There are also international treaties strictly forbidding the weaponizing or militarizing of space.

Or better yet I could make a pistol but it like shots a beam of unholy light that can put a hole in a mountain!

Fucking idiot.

>bomb specifically designed to cause radiation poisoning over large areas

I absolutely fucking hate Gundumb, it's pure fucking shit, every fucking aspect of it. M-Particles would literally make any advanced tech pointless, ESPECIALLY Gundams. Mobile Suits would be a mediocre weapon at best, not excelling in ground combat like tanks or helicopter gunships, or in space as fighters would out class them in speed and armament.

The realistic advantage of Mobile Suits would be the first days of the War, as building conventional weapons would draw too much attention.

Operation British would be the equivalent of the USSR in WW3 launching DOZENS of ICBM's and nuking half the U.S. and then claiming they totally wanted to hit Cheyenne Mountain, now sign this treaty banning your retaliation ;).

Real life would have had the Federation going full strategic bombing on Zeon, wiping out habitat after habitat, with the best case result is a Japan style unconditional surrender, and the worst is a Berlin 1945.

Lmfao top kek

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Look at this know-nothing. Go read up then come back you ignorant kid.

the Federation space fleet was decimated after Operation British, even if they did want to nuke all of Side 3 they didnt have the resources to get there and deliver their weapons.

as far as the EF was concerned the Antarctic Treaty was just there to keep the war from escalating any further, they knew Zeon had militarily exhausted itself and they felt they they had the resources to outlast them long enough to rebuild their fleet in secret and deal with space later. Zeon's Earth invasion definitely slowed them down but EF was able to follow through with their plan in the end.

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VRaptor are small doggos

A real life T virus. The CIA probably already has a vial of mutated Ebola, rabies, flu, ETC into one grey goo thats the closest we'll ever get to a zombie virus.

Long story short, what said but with zombies

a pin head of anti matter could destroy a city block.

>velociraptors
Dude, those things are about the size of a medium-sized dog. If you want dromeosaurids, you'd need Utahraptor, Dakotaraptor, or Achillobator.

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