How much firepower would you need to take out Mexico's drug cartels?

>implying it’s a question of firepower
Dumb question OP.

>Mexico cannot control it's own country
>Invading them would be a no-no

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you need to know where those key leadership are and take them out.
then just sit back and let them fight it out.

Drone strikes. Lots and lots of drone strikes. Non stop drone strikes. Keep them coming. Non stop. Let it rain.

thats stupid as fuck and shows how little you know about the cartel situation

if you think legalizing weed is ganna stop the cartel in any way shape of form you are dumb as fuck

its not the 90s anymore they already make more money with meth and pharmaceuticals

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Thats literally whats been going on for decades. If anything, it's made things worse.

They take out a leader every few months, it doesn’t work. Cartels are ran by board of directors, not one fucking person.

>implying you couldn't do more with a few policy changes and strokes of a pen than you could with 100 infantry divisions

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>muh drone strikes
>Just kill everyone lmoa
The cartel problem is rooted deep into the government and inside cities, is not just a bunch of dudes with balaclavas and shitty aks planting weed on the mountains.
The armed forces can't just open fire at sight because they would get in trouble with the human rights commission.
And i'm pretty sure they're not going to bomb there own territory

Did the Philippines care?

Cartels are run by worldwide investors who are tapping a very large market.

No amount of legalization would work, and the war on drugs absolutely isn't working either. Legalize weed and the cartels push heroin instead, making weed a secondary cash crop that gets grown within our own borders instead of southern Mexico

not everyone is willing to take it as far as duerte...although maybe they should

one pen to sign legalization of controlled substances. suddenly a lot of mexican businessmen shows up.

This. The Mexican government is too weak and corrupt to have the balls trying to get rid of the cartels. Even if somebody decides to take power and use it for good, then he or she will get coup d'eat (or assassinated) before real change can come.

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Lmao it thinks its people

>war on drugs isn't working either

never said it was desu, im stating user is a dumbfuck summerfag who thinks legalization would be the end to cartels

Unless you get a significant chunk of the US population to stop shooting up or snorting you will never take out the Cartels fully. They are just businesses that found their market and are doing a damn good job protecting it considering they run Mexico and influence the foreign policy of multiple nations. If you can't do that nothing short of exterminating most of Mexico, and only then someone else will step in and fill that market.

If you're gonna use quotes than please use quotation marks, you're not smart enough to think of movie lines by yourself.

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These. The effectiveness of decapitation is dependent on the motive (ideology, religious, criminal) and age of the organization and in many cases can backfire.

Holy shit guys do you all really think cartels only make money from selling weed? Theres many many things unrelated to weed to help them gain money
>children sex traffic rings
>ilegal organ harvesting
>moving inmigrants from the south to the usa
>"conscription" of whole towns to make new soldiers and workers
>ilegal mining and thievery of oil and other gross products
>massive kidnapping
>kidnapping of rich people
>extortion of city squares
>terror tactics

If anything we shoul all learn from Don Alejo and buy WWII rifles to fight the cartels everytime they come for you.
I tough i was on a board who reads or at least search stuff online, not a board filled with retarded canadians.

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>implying the cartels wouldn't set up shell companies inside the US in an attempt to legitimize their business

Theyve literally taken to extorting Avacados and other cash crop farms because of the expectations about drugs

All of it.

I didn't say "weed".

Would it be a shell company if it does exactly what it says on the tin? If the cartels set up drug companies that sell drugs legally, then they're not really cartels anymore are they? Not in the sense that we understand them anyway.

Do you know what the word cartel means?

It would be if we legalized every drug

me and only me.

Senate majority

Nuke 'em, it's the only way to be sure

This repeal Mexico's shitty gun laws and the citizens will sort out the cartels and government happened before can happen again

>Tfw Mexico was close to becoming a first world country then oil prices fell

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Presumably it's a shell company because they're pretending it's not cartel affiliated. Probably also because cartel weed doesn't meet the standard for legal distribution.

>meth
This, but not
>pharmaceuticals
The cartels dealing in narco pharmaceuticals were getting them from a single source, CVS. They had a connection in there or something that was leaking them hundreds of thousands of pills. That whole operation was shut down recently though.

They are back to running meth and cocaine, and heroin. If we legalized those in america (and mexico) then yes, the cartels wouldn't be able to make any money. A lot of criminal organizations wouldn't be able to.

There are a shit ton of other problems and positives to that though. The biggest is... how do you deal with all those people in the current prison system in prison for something that is legal? and ealing with people that don't understand how drugs work that think they are the devil. A lotttt of the country was raised during the Reagan years where anti drug propaganda was at it's highest. It's going to be hard as fuck to get a bunch of people that have dedicated their lives to the evil that is drugs to admit they are wrong. They were brainwashed since childhood.

Nigga, simply because you legalize something don't mean its illegal market is going to stop overnight. In fact, unregulated drugs are going to continue to sell, particularly for those who don't meet legalization standards. Even if everyone and their goldfish could legally get high, there's plenty of people willing to buy their products through illict means. There's also a shit ton of dumb fucking faggots out there too; these groups may have some crossover.

fpbp

well tell me how often you hear about illegal cigs or moonshining in the U.S. it still happens but its a non-issue

A military.

Legalizing every drug might solve one problem but it will create another worse one

Cause that works soooo well as we have seen in Afghanistan.... You cant win a ground battle from the air child.

Taking the gloves off would do it.

If you do war go all the way.
Butcher anything you see..it it the old ways..
You have not seen this in your lifetimes.

I would ethnically cleanse all of mexico
Not even the fucking mules would survive my orders.

mass drug addiction?

>Build the wall so that drug dealers find newer but more expensive methods to transport drugs
>These new expenditures, along with legalization of Marijuana, Mushrooms, and some other rather harmless drugs
>Then full scale terror tactics like those used by the Americans during vietnam. Mental torture and anguish of the cartel, while simultaneously declaring full scale war, kidnapping the leaders children if need be. These attacks should be centered on the cartel only, so as to not give them sympathy.

Weed is still most profitable for them

I doubt a surge in addiction is the issue.

Tons of people do plenty of drugs that are illegal, including like half of americans adults that've tried weed. Clearly being illegal isn't what's stopping them.

There might be more people who try drugs if they're legalized but don't buy into the scare tactics claiming people will suddenly all become junkies. If anything, drug addiction would probably be better handled as people are now able to function within society and not as junkie criminals buying black market drugs with.

>Of course, the much-better alternative is to just remove their revenue stream by legalizing and regulating their product

read up on some history.

hippies never think beyond the legalization phase.

What happens after legalization is that drug cartels turn to other more serious crimal activity to stay afloat and in power while the collateral damage drives the entire fucking population of central america to the north

I wrote a 26 page paper on this subject about a month ago.

The TL;DR is that it would require Mexico's justice system to actually be effective, which is unlikely to happen soon.

Roughly 97% of murders in Mexico go unpunished, and it's well over 99% for drug war killings. You can't stop people from committing homicide when you can make money by doing it and there's basically no risk.

Do you think the cartels aren't already doing extortion, kidnapping, oil theft, crooked government contracts, and the rest of that shit?

Spoilers: they are.

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And then you could easily convince the public that a war on them is justified and maybe that the Mexican government needs American help

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And then you could easily convince the public that a war on them is justified and maybe that the Mexican government needs American help

This. Nukes are literally oh my God based God

>tfw the avacado cartel utterly destroys the drug cartels for hogging resources and fucking with them and proceeds to turn mexico into an ancap superpower.

user mexico IS ancap. Mexico is what anarcho capitalism actually looks like in practice.

also the avocado cartel wont stand a chance against the cheese cartel. And once the US milk cartel realizes there is money to be made in a cross border diary cartel with mexico look the fuck out. Diary will never be the same.

Its probably more to do with politics and legislation just send in one group to find out who the cartel boys are send another to train local malita who hate them and just start killing them all every last one if then

Also go after there money supply

Lol your a dumb guy

If only crazy white ancap rich people took advantage of it and made mexico (and the rest of latin america) into a slightly more european but heavily industrialized and militarized society with loads of subfactions and miniarmies of all sorts.

first post based post

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>also the avocado cartel wont stand a chance against the cheese cartel.

You underestimate their power

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Avocado farmer here. Growing avocados is a license to print money. We could easily arm a man based on the harvest value of one single tree, Mexico needs to get to work. Fuck the cartels, fuck the autodefensas, Viva la aguacate.

Just send Super-heavy MBTs and IFVs
They have no answer to them besides turn around and grab their ankles

well if they are in a room like that 2 fucking grenades

Coup the government, cut "asistencialismo", wich is 30% of the budget, invest it all in the military, import drones and vatnik weapons.
then, scorched earth operation the entire country.
go medieval in their ass, executions, acid bath the leaders, public helicopter drops.
fuck the Human rights NGOs

Get off the computer and go start studying for next year bud, just because you get 3 months off doesn't give you a license to come here and say stupid shit.

forgot to mention, all the cartel members in prisons should be put in concentration camps.
at least they'll be useful that way.

They are already doing that because bigger cartels already dominate most illegal markets.

It would all be about infiltrating them

None if you just legalized all drugs

>user mexico IS ancap. Mexico is what anarcho capitalism actually looks like in practice.
This. If American lolbertarians hate the police so much, maybe they should move down to Mexico where the law enforcement will give them something to hate. Many rural populations are slaves to robber baron-esque drug lords.

>implying the other stuff is even remotely as lucrative as the drug trade

Reminder that the G3 is literal poverty rifle like AKM yet (((high))) price.

M14 is a faggot also

t. AR10, SCAR, and FAL bros

This, just like Francisco Madero.

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Tell us more in detail plz

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One wall would devastate them.

US & Canada are their primary markets. Our negligence to secure our borders has made these evil savages unimaginably rich.

>THIS

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The entire plot of the movie is that taking out fragmenting the cartel causes a bigger problem

>implying half the people getting the new weapons won't go straight to the cartels

your violent jerkoff fantasies are just that

>Whats funny though is that other regions are straight up seceding and empowering Legal Cartels like a bunch of rich avocado farmers who armed a private army and ran the drug cartels and the corrupt government out of town.
wtf

I propose turning everything south of the Rio Grande into radioactive glass. That should keep them quiet.

Middle East first

it would look like a car bomb. Good thing the coast guard wasn’t involved. Eh Vasily?

>tfw live in the RGV
>tfw gov't nukes Mexico
>tfw they bomb McAllen trying to bomb Reynosa

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This

You can't exactly run kidnapping like a business the same way you can with a tangible product like cocaine or marijuana.

this should do the trick

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Have you read about bananas. Or suger? Holy fuck. Basically every food growers association you should be scared shitless of. Hell any lobbying group that controls legislation for such a major food staple should absolutely terrify any sane person.

Nigga are you seeing g all the fentanyl overdoses and crippling opioid abuse? See no further than the Opium Wars that legalizing all drugs us a fucking terrible idea. People today wouldn't all start shooting dope overnight, but legalization is the first step to normalization. And don't give me some lolberts or ancap response about the right to do heroin. People that are addicted lack the agency to make those choices

So US spent 1980-2000 shutting down the Caribbean smuggling routes and breaking down the Colombian cartels.

This created a vacuum in the market, which resulted in 90% of the cocaine imported into the US coming through Mexico by 2000, which meant that Mexican cartels started getting 30 billion a year.

At the same time, Mexico transitioned to a democracy, which meant that all the old backroom deals and bribery that the cartels had used to keep under the radar no longer worked, because elections were real elections and not just a facade to disguise the party boss system.

Think Russia after 1990 or Iraq after 2003 and you have a decent idea of what an enormous power vacuum there was after the PRI ended the dictatorship, and how badly equipped the legal system was to deal with it.

Throw in a bunch of special forces guys defecting to the cartels and then Calderon declaring an all-out war against the cartels, and the entire country blows up.

Id be a fucking coward, because theres no way Id serve as a member of the juidicial system in Mexican. I commend them for their courage.

Man, I really love how beautifully dumb original A bombs were.
Literally just fire one lump of uranium into another when you want to vapourize the Jap city.

>See no further than the Opium Wars that legalizing all drugs us a fucking terrible idea
>caused by china banning opium imports
>had zero effect on usage

nigga learn some fucking history

make corn, beans and rice illegal in Mexico and then start a reverse cartel trade with the wall jumpers in produce!

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