Are there any form of communism/socialism that actually supports the ideal of the people being armed...

Are there any form of communism/socialism that actually supports the ideal of the people being armed? Genuinely want to know this.

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Only for the revolutionary period.

They all do. If by "the people" you mean the ones in charge.

If there is i would support it because i like the idea of everyone being armed with mosins and makarovs

No dude then how will the Jewish inner party members control everything from the economy to your thoughts?

There is national socialism though, Hitler supported the people (the actual people of the nation, not foreign occupiers) owning guns as well as receiving military and survivalist training.

But hitler shit is boring and has gay music. Communist music from soviet union is kino as fuck and the simplistic and red theme is badass as hell.

Only during the revolution, after that it's usually "there shall be no funs"
That objectively makes Fascism and national socialism better ideologies "everyone must own funs for their and the country's good"

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does it take work for you to get this retarded or is it just natural for you?

>"To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party, whose betrayal of the workers will begin with the very first hour of victory, the workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed. Where the formation of this militia cannot be prevented, the workers must try to organize themselves independently as a proletarian guard, with elected leaders and with their own elected general staff; they must try to place themselves not under the orders of the state authority but of the revolutionary local councils set up by the workers. Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising."
-Karl Marx, "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League", London 1850
Communism, as told by Marx, supports arming the workers. Authoritarian regimes run by Putin, Castro, Merkel, and Kim- don't.

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So Karl Marx was /ourguy/?

>"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."
When was the last time you heard an American politician say something like that?

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No, just another moron who got stuck at "who watches the watchmen" and decided that he can just write a plan down and say it was your fault for implementing it poorly.
Y'know, like a commie.

No he wasn't.

He's forgetting the part when Marx stated the people must be disarmed as soon as the "revolution" is complete.

I.e. the usual "arm everyone to win then disarm/kill off any threats" tract we've gotten from every single socialist organization and government ever.

Research all of Marx's writings and speeches, don't let leftists give you half truths to show "muh based Marx"

>So Karl Marx was /ourguy/?

No. Actually read what he's written. He's not advocating for widespread citizen arms ownership, he's advocating for "workers" being armed. In this case workers means the revolutionary forces. Marx explicitly states that workers should oppose a citizen led militia.

>He's forgetting the part when Marx stated the people must be disarmed as soon as the "revolution" is complete.
Can you post it?

>here take this gun and kill your brother
>great I'm in charge
>kill more of your brothers or give me your gun
>if you don't give me your gun I kill you
Nah.

Vietnam lets people own shotguns for hunting... That's about it.

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Who are you quoting?

Marx
>gives out guns like hot cakes
>kills you if you don't give it back
Yeah, definitely not ourguy.

When did he do that?