Out of the entire Anglosphere, Australia is the only country with a decent service rifle

> german upgrades
> HK owned by a british company
> british workers did most if not all the work in british factories

Its almost as if they went to them because it would be a primarily British fix...

I'm a big fan of Billups, great in vehicles which has become a big part of countrrinsurgency

But it's heavy user, and the optic is annoying asf, I think the big boys in aus use the optic less version to execute goat herders

It's good though, the modular nature of them is meant to make it heaps easier to keep them serviceable.

I prefer the us rifles but I wouldn't complain about a styr unless I had to carry it

But it's great value for what they pay for it.
People forget aus defence budget is like 4% or something rediculous

They are basically a loan-force of specialists, they lean heavily on special forces instead of grunts. I think half their losses in the sandbox were SF.

And you don't hear about them fucking up too often....apart from the navy

>you don't hear about them fucking up too often
Except for all those accusations of doing shit like shooting an unarmed man and stealing his prosthetic leg to drink beer out of, you mean.

Haha I hear some great stories

But misconduct asside they get shit done and arnt this huge logistic nightmare.
Actually the reliance on a very small number of men, the Australian SAS was pushed very hards.
Being used in place of standard patrols and being called in for work the us grunts were liable to fuck up. Grunts are grunts, it's no criticism of the us guys but they went in with a lot of men and relatively few SF

It's only coming to light because a new wave of soft as fuck aus command is coming in and wants to improve tge image of tge forces to people who would never enlist anyway

i fail to see the fuck up there.

cant even do that on the new EF-88. Nice rifle though. Very accurate even to 400m

sauce: went through basic with an F88-A2

Link? As someone in the service I can assume you that the 25% could belong to reservists that don't clean their m4s and get assesed during range qual. The dozenth in the m4s life cycle without a cleaning. 25% is practically abismal when you consider basic training as well.

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Having met Aussie sailors that sounds dead accurate!

the m16a4/m27 are used as cheap suppression and they can fire at 550m. Imagine unironically bring a 300m max range rifle to a war LMFAO

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BAIT

This
Rifle is fine

God I love them, would spend all nite with Bruce in a foxhole
Not sure if that range is accurate, would be pretty hard to believe if true

sipri.org/sites/default/files/3_Data for all countries from 1988–2017 as a share of GDP.pdf

Try barely 2% for most years. It is worth noting that Aus does have a over all large budget do to a large economy but please do not tell lies.

Yea, 2% gdp on forces
It's a total joke

For what we put into forces we get results, but our army is two men and a dog

America isn't part of the Anglosphere you traitorous pieces of shit.

I used to do QC on M4s. New rifles passed at 3 MOA and many were much better. Older rifles used to be 4.5 before a new barrel but the Army got cheap and that was pushed out to "hit the target". The trigger issue is also due to the military doing shit the absolute cheapest way possible.

Oh, and M9s passed as long as they could do a functions check. Most of them were smooth as well.

> 300m max range
I don't think there's a single NATO service rifle where this is true

This. During school, I took M4s out on a 600m KD range and was still able to hit a man sized target.
ACOG and Comp M4 (CCO).

I hear from Israelis the m4 performs well at range because of its relatively high twist rate

Israeli SF said they were still using it with long barrels as a marksman rifle in "14

It's a great rifle for what infantry wants
Do infantry really need a 400m+ effective range and can any of them shoot that well?
Doubtfull ,but the m4 gives them hope at little financial cost

>I hear from Israelis the m4 performs well at range because of its relatively high twist rate
It's a bit more complicated than that.

He needs to lay off the shrimp on the barbie

Horseshit

Hes talking about the failure of the FCG where placing the gun in between semi and auto and pulling the trigger doesn't drop the hammer then when the selector is flipped it fires usually full auto.

armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/05/31/this-malfunction-has-the-army-inspecting-its-m4s-and-m16s/

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Their views will likely change when theyre shooting at armed combatants and not children and protesters.