What is the best fighter aircraft engine in the world? How do you even judge that? Trust? Range per gallon of fuel?
MILITARY AIRCRAFT ENGINES
Eli White
Benjamin Barnes
>How do you even judge that?
Max output, reliability, efficiency, ease of replacement during wartime, etc..
Gavin Morgan
Certainly not russian engines.
Jacob Torres
I'd say usually whatever the latest American fighter jet engine is probably the worldwide gold standard. The P&W F135 with 43k pounds of thrust gives me a boner just thinking about it.
Jace Howard
What's your opinion on pic related?
Alexander Hall
The F135 is a beauty for sure.
Elijah Powell
Is that one China stole or is it being loaded on a Russian transport?
Andrew Rogers
That's a nice engine.
Carter Williams
>Trust?
I'd say trust is a big part, you don't want an engine that's going to double-cross you.
Cameron Sanders
Potential is the best metric.
For example, the Chinese engine is very young but is considered far more impressive than the newest Russian one. Give it 2-3 years and it will over take the American engine as the best in the world.
Charles Barnes
Owen Smith
Good bait frendo
Christopher Wilson
Quantum engines?
Dominic Sanchez
>Maximum thrust
>Overall pressure ratio
>Specific fuel consumption
>Thrust-to-weight ratio
And there are also additional features like stealth characteristics, TVC, Variable Cycle Engine etc.
Parker Morgan
>medium
>EJ 200 - Eurofighter
>large
>F119 - F22
Chase Perry
>that gape
David Turner
Americans just have access to better materials and maintenance. Russian engines are superior from engineering point of view.
Jeremiah Price
What are you talking about
Ian Brown
>Russian engines are superior from engineering point of view.
The fuck?
Mason Cruz
Joshua Allen
Ryder Rivera
Jayden Jones
This thread is in serious lack of actual numbers and comparisons at this point.
James Roberts
F-135 is better than the F-119
Connor Morgan
Actually, no.
Mason Morales
>Americans just have access to better materials
Yea because of engineering...
Dominic Anderson
Differences in design are getting smaller and smaller, nowadays material science and QA is what makes a good engine.
Jonathan Smith
>sub 35k lblet
lmaoing@ your life rn
Levi Hernandez
cool story
Lucas Garcia
Eurogays Slavs and Chinks struggle to even put out a thrust to weight of 9. Meanwhile Americans slam 11.5 in that pussy shit mu dude.
Noah Diaz
Please, this is a blue board.
Isaiah Allen
Name of it?
Brandon Nguyen
Don't forget Thrust to Weight ratio.
David Martin
F119.
Ryder Long
All depends upon the plane's purpose.
The Nazis were masturbating so hard to pic related that one of them came up with the idea for a ramjet-propelled interceptor:
en.wikipedia.org
However, the flame that burns twice as bright sucks twice as much cock, so there you have it.
Then you have the fact that turboprops are better at lower speed regimes than turbojets, yadda yadda yadda.
Dominic Murphy
The problem with the F-135 is its size (or more accurate its diameter). Surface-area-to-volume ratio doesn't favour larger engines, that's also the main reason why fighters generally apply two engines instead of one large engine.
Brody Davis
The F-22's engine is supppses to be awesome. There was talk of upgrading the B-1b bomber to use them. The B-1b is actually a nerfed version of what the B-1a was supposed to be. But costs were too high so they lowered the top speed requirements by a lot.
Now an engine that meets the thrust requirements and size requirements exists because of the F-22. So it would be possible to bring the B-1 up to its original performance goals.
Michael Jones
You just look at this shit and wonder "HOW?"
Samuel Nguyen
Garfield?
David Moore
I'm not a cat.
Brody Myers
If the 15% increase actually happened of the EJ200 for the Eurofighter tranche as replacement of the German Tornados then the upgraded EJ200 would exceed the F119 as most advanced engine out there.
Dominic Howard
This.
If we look only at thrust-to-weight ratio then the F135 engines in the F-35 has the highest mark at 7.47:1 (dry) and 11.467:1 (wet/afterburning). If the people behind the Eurofighter's EJ200 engines can deliver the 15-30 % increase that they say they will then it will be close (right now they're at 6.11:1 (dry) and 9.17:1 (wet)
Parker Adams
p&w already has an upgrade for the F-135 giving it a 10% power boost and 5% better fuel burn.
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Thomas Jackson
Dominic Mitchell
>The engine evolved off the other with far higher thrust output is worse
What are you smoking? The F135 is an upgrade of the F119 design.
Samuel Johnson
I see you like talking out of your fourth point of contact.
Jeremiah Turner
IIRC the B-21 will have 4 F135s.
Charles Johnson
2 F-135s...
Lucas Bell
Engine of the 100% indigenous HAL Tejas. Its the most impressive.
Christopher Martinez
Ahem.
Caleb Richardson
>Burns red
Weak.
Jaxon Smith
It will be a nonab dertivitive.
Easton Foster
The skin of the aircraft around the engines would go transparent at max power...
Andrew Green
Carson Martin
Red is for rockets not jets.
Jace Green
Flame color is determined by heat, and efficiency the fuel is burned.
Blake Allen
Also determined, first and foremost, by the fuel it is using.
Charles Clark
pretty sure this is bait, but from our engine software, to the first high bypass engine, the US has had a consistent fuckhuge lead on engine performance when it comes to jets, in every single aspect. To this day, nations still work to accomplish what our engines did 20 years ago, and for every euro nation, they do so on the foundation of what we have done. Well, China too, but that goes without saying.
Russians are fantastic at creating disruptive technology though. 10/10 when it comes to "changing the game entirely"
Jonathan Martin
Lol.
Adrian Martin
Lol.
Asher Gomez
>No arguments
Lol.
Noah Garcia
It's accurate though.
Mason Lewis
>No arguments
>Literally a direct comparison of equivalent aircraft's engine maintenance cycles
Matthew Garcia
All the krokodil must've eaten through poor vodka user's brainstem already.
Jaxon Sanchez
>Still no arguments
Lol.
Joshua Taylor
>23% greater thrust output over F119
>Same 46" diameter
Yeah, still talking out your ass.
Christian Morris
Shit, I think Armatard's back.
Jose Miller
>Literally still no arguments
Lol, why are fatniks so pathetic?
Lincoln Phillips
Literally all he can do is shout "no argument" while shutting his eyes.
Nathan Hill
Tf104ge110, used in tandem
Elijah Robinson
Impotent fatnik squeals are not an argument. You are yet to refer to any of the engines I posted, mutt.
Xavier King
Old ge 110,s
Nicholas Diaz
The argument is that the superior quality of American engines and the resulting longer lifespan makes them better than the cheap, short-lasting Russian "equivalents" of similar price and dimensions.
Oliver Williams
Colton Hughes
Lol.
>No arguments
Lol.
Evan Torres
Yep, it's definitely Armatard.
Benjamin Cox
Am I the only one that likes the F100? I know it's not the best but sometimes the older stuff is more interesting to me and the F100 is still pretty powerful and generally reliable.
Thomas James
>Still no arguments
Lol, impotent fatnik mutt.
Anthony Ortiz
Soviet engine metallurgy was dogshit and I see someone's already posted the chart that details the MiG-29 and F-16's engines. In this case a Soviet engine goes through nine times more overhauls and is replaced 3 times as often than a comparable US engine.
>You are yet to refer to any of the engines I posted
You mean the pictures? Yeah, come back with an actual argument and not just some pictures of planes you think look super cool. Those engines are pieces of junk that fall apart without loads of overhauls and still need to be replaced fairly often. Next to the poor maintenance making their subs noisy, their engines after the third gen were easily one of their worst technical failings.
Jacob Mitchell
>Still hasn't actually said anything to argue against and has fallen back into his standard of lame, bloodless insults
I hope the high Krokodil is worth the brain damage.
Kevin Martinez
Russia has the same access, are you retarded?
Joshua Perez
>N-no, let's not talk about the engines you posted, let's talk about old poolandish engines with no spare parts
Lol, impotent fatnik squeals.
>You mean the pictures?
I mean the engines, mutt.
>Still no arguments
Lol.
Owen Brooks
>al-41f
>cant even match F-119
Not even close to best in the world.
Isaac Nguyen
>Still not making any arguments about anything concrete, just more "LOOK AT DIS!" posting of a pair of engines
Asher Perez
>let's talk about old poolandish engines with no spare parts
They had parts, they just weren't burning through them at the rate of the Soviet Air force. The Soviet Union was one of the only places in the world where it was acceptable to build engines that badly. By the way, that isn't something to be proud of.
>I mean the engines
The engines are constructed from inferior materials and with poor quality control, they're bad, real bad. Pictures don't show the fact the engines need to be maintained constantly so they aren't flying to pieces, shit like this does
Aiden James
Dumb stupid Americans no appreciate strong Russia engine!
Connor Brown
>bbbrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappp
Elijah Bell
>AL-41F not matching F119
True, 18000 kgf doesn't really match 16000 kgf.
>Still no arguments
Lol.
>Still no arguments regarding the engines I posted
Lol.
Angel Clark
Brandon Edwards
mfw fatnik mutt make squel over superior russia make engines.
Daniel Morris
Lel MTBO of 1000 hrs for AL-41F vs 6000 for F119
Nicholas Cook
>Wet fatnik fantasies
Lol.
Ayden Cooper
What causes those circles to form?
Jose Foster
The afterburner fairies.
Angel Foster
Gremlins.
Jordan Carter
Dominic Jackson
For what it's worth, Russia's turboprop game seems to be strong...
Lucas Nguyen
Horniness.
Hunter Long
Thats usually been the case, those kuznetsov engines with nearly 15,000 shp are nuts. They even put them on an airliner, though I don't think the passengers appreciated it.
Anthony Richardson