Why was soviet military so superior compared to mutt shitshow that couldn't even win against vietnam?

Why was soviet military so superior compared to mutt shitshow that couldn't even win against vietnam?

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>Afghanistan

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nice bait pic, mind if I trade?

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go ahead

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umm swetie ussr won in afghanistan

trade?

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America won that war.

America is still fighting in Afghanistan.

america is afghanistan

>Why was vatnik sperg so vodka compared to something Vietnam and squatting lada?

Is that Marky Mark?
Did the Soviets sent to deal with the Afghan fucking shits?

Ah yes the great soviet military was so great that they collapsed in 1990.
How can mutts even compete going strong with Mexicans and transvestites in their ranks in the year 2018.

>clusterfuck of multi-ethnic conscripts
>superior to anything

Holy vatniks Batman! Im practically drunk off the cheap alcohol fumes eminating from this post.

>clusterfuck of multi-ethnic conscripts
>superior to anything
that's what i mean
american army is shit

Russia was full of mutts before America made it cool, same with China. They only look the same because all the different ethnicities have had a long time to interbreed. Sage for shit b8 lmao

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>withdrawing from 'nam means the US lost
>but when the Soviet withdraw from Afghanistan, that means they won
Interesting logic there user, care to elaborate?

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Nigga their pullout game was strong, so strong they left millions in equipment and some soldiers still there in the frenzy.

USSR lost so bad in Afghanistan that their economy collapsed and they had to break up.
America has it's flaws, and share of the losing wars, but she ain't gonna break up toots

You do realize that mutt is only an effective insult against faggot Jow Forumsniggers right? Nobody else cares.

Just give it some time. US will fall just like every other empire.

Soviet military was so good it defeated it's own country. Twice.

>Mongolian headed fuck
>talking about mutts
I know it’s a troll but kek

that looks like the 70s/80s porn star Herschel Savage, he was a navy seal in Vietnam

lol this

>mutt
Top kek. Go back to Jow Forums, faggot.

fpbp

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>What is Afghanistan

>Afghanistan was not a victory

Ayy Lmaoo

Did America have a ground occupation of the entire country including North Vietnam? No?

That's right. America bitched out fearing Chinese and Soviet intervention and just like a nerd virgin bombed some dirt trail in Laos for like 12 years with strategic bombers in a fit of autistic rage.

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>... couldn't win against Vietnam
Anti-War pressure forced the government to end the war. Now if we can go back to only fighting for the US, when the public in general calls for the battle then we're in business.

Afghanistan is American

This. Hopefully sooner than later. This nation dying means a dozen more freer ones will rise from its ashes.

Nigga you're blind if you can't see that Vietnam broke the US. It became a radically different country afterward

>throws some missile launchers and rudimentary training towards the muj
>russians run off screaming like they always do

back to the NCO's rape circle for you

Chad soviet vs virgin USA

>America is still fighting in Afghanistan.
And the Soviet Union no longer exists.

It isn't an effective insult against Jow Forumsacks either. The mexicans, jews, ozzies and butthurt euro kiddies just like to samefag a lot.

Because American War on Terror did not produce kino like The Green Elephant Calf

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Why can't we win against third world guerilla armies?

2 reasons.
>Democracy cannot be brutal.
>Fascism cannot be soft.

Militarily speaking, our nation needs to pick a role and stick with it. The reason all former colonies really tended to work up until WW2, is because there was a horrific cost for human defiance. Romans would squash a rebellion by crucifying the rebels on the roadsides and having them hang there for miles.

Now let me be clear, I'm a libertarian, I'm very much NOT pro-fascist. But if you're wishing to subjugate a nation with the military, you can't have a soft hand about it. There's gonna need to be some harsh examples.

But really, almost any nation can be taught to be a de-facto US colony by cooperating economically/diplomatically. This is the carrot method. It's a far superior way to do things.

If the late 20th Century and 21st have taught anything about warfare, it's that the guerillas really don't need to *win* the battles in order to win the war. They simply need to stalemate and outlast. And in a Democratic nation, if the war is a vast money pit with little results to show for it, public sentiment will turn against the wars.... Then when the vast majority of Americans are against the wars, the politicians have to start catering to that sentiment to get elected.

But once again
>Fascism cannot be soft
>Democracty cannot be hard
Any hybrid of the 2 is going to have a lot of trouble forging puppet states. It's due to not knowing an effective strategy. The US will continuously bomb, then rebuild. Bomb, then rebuild. Ad infinitum.

>Democracy cannot be hard
Counterpoint, handling of defeated axis nations after WW2. The difference is in media reporting, people hate pictures of dead kids.

WW2 really was different because it was an actually *defensive war* and NOT a war of aggression (pretty much all wars since). The Axis were the clear invaders. The world was simply checking them. And after they'd been at war for a decade (longer in Japan's case), these nations were tired of war, the people were going hungry and overworked, the soldiers and cities were getting wrecked. The public was overwhelmingly ready for peace and happy to cooperate.

Then the unique position of the capitalist nations having to check nonstop soviet expansion led to immediately rebuilding the former Axis for additional formidable allies and strategic positions to stop a Soviet land grab.

Go and stay go

USA lost over 10,000 aircraft in Vietnam
Soviets lost less than 500 in Afghanistan

And that was against manpads which had never been widely used before.

Imagine if Vietcong had Strela/Igla. Imagine how many more loses there would have been.

Also to be fair US flew a billion more sorties than USSR.

>Soviets fund and build the most sophisticated IADS network in the world, in an era where tactics to counter SAMs didn't exist. Gooks also have enough of an airforce to at least be annoying
>America just dumps off a few crates of Stingers and a few CIA niggers and tell tell the cave people to go crazy.

>nobody cares about being a mixed race abomination
just keep telling yourself that

hopefully

I used to think vetnam was a bullshit war until i studied it more. Now im not so sure. But here are some facts.

>10 to 1 death ratio in favor of the US
>Vietnam didn’t have a solid ruler for the south
>the US probably should of left like 50 guys in each village so the south wouldn’t hate us. (10 to 1 means 50 Americans could kill 500 people)

But it was doomed to “””lose””” from the beginning.

I put lose in the quotation marks because people forget the main goal was to stop the spread of conunism in south east Asia. An with the exception of south Vietnam and Laos America was successful.

People have forgotten that people where worried about it spreading to Cambodia Thailand myanmar inda Indonesia Malaysia and Pakistan. As there was and still is in someplaces a large comunist movement in the sixties. An the more I’ve looked into it the more obvious it is to me that the war in Vietnam did help stop the spread. By supressing it with violence and a show of force between Korea and Vietnam that comunism wouldn’t go on uncontested. Thus the natave population would need more coaxing from Russian and Chinese operatives to embrace communism. Also one thing that’s dope aboutcapitalism is that the United States has a fuck ton of money and it turns out people like money a lot so that was also helpful to getting people to see the white especially when you look at how shit every communist country was at that point in history. Because China and Russia were so shit that long ass for force them to invest deeply into Vietnam and then at the end they couldn’t compete have they gone uncontested that might’ve not been the case

Although it probably would of been wise to invade Russia and china and finish off nam but unfortunately in each of those cases public support wasn’t available and success wasn’t guaranteed.

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It's not a surprise really. We had fuck all for ground based AA.
M167 towed VAD's required a fucking power source and were out of production by the 80's, Stingers, Blowpipes and Redeye's were basically the only shit we could give them, and we couldn't safely transport higher tech SAM's like MIM-23 HAWK through Pakistan and train people up. Pakistan was willing to funnel militias but they were scared shitless of the Soviets and were unwilling to escalate by sending their military units as "volunteers" or host much in the way of organized training on the scale China did for Vietnam

To be fair the NVA got it's hands on Strela (SA-7 Grail) towards the end of the Vietnam war - when the Redeye was also entering service.
The NVA/VPA shot down 24 aircraft with Strela before the end of the war

lmao what is that extra pedal between the brake and gas?

>>Vietnam didn’t have a solid ruler for the south
I often wonder what would have been different if the US restored Bao Dai (The monarchy) and instead brought Ho to the table before the shit blew up

The brake

>Now if we can go back to only fighting for the US
lol, no matter how many times the public votes for this, it never happens. All politicians have to do is say "much freedums" or "muh Jews" and we're right back in some quagmire on the opposite side of the world.

This is better bait than OP's

Nothing personnel, kid.

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>he doesn't know what a clutch is

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USA: arming islamic terrorists since 1975

I like the pedal but I don't know what it does

It's a heterosexuality detector. You didn't pass.

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>this level of damage control
Lmao

holy shit it's called a reverse pedal you fucking brainlet. How the fuck else do you think people drive backwards to get out of their driveway retard

What the hell are you talking about? The engine literally rotates 180 degrees to go in reverse. That's why you feel a small bump in the car because the engine reseats itself.

I'm an American. The CIA funded the mujahadeen and they're funding ISIS in syris today.
Pull your head out of your stupid ass.

*syria

>The CIA funded the Afghan mujahadeen
So did Iran and China.
>they're funding ISIS in syria today
Prove it.