I would like to build a 10-22. I have access to a 3D printer and possibly a CNC. I plan on using a synthetic receiver, trigger housing, and possibly a synthetic stock. I'd like to keep it light and keep it short if possible (bullpup?). I eventually plan on having a suppressor on it, God willing. What are some good components to complete this build? I've read that 18"+ bull barrels are the bee's knees, and I've heard that they don't do much. I know it would probably be (much) cheaper to just buy one, but I feel I must /DIY/ this as much as possible.
Literally why, all of these components are available cheap
Just get a 10/22 and mod it with some volquartsen shit
Luke Gray
>why It seems wasteful to buy a gun, strip everything off it, and replace the parts with parts I could have just bought initially.
Besides, it seems like a fun project that if successful could provide a foundation for other projects in the future.
Aiden Gray
Do you actually understand what you're proposing to do? It is absolutely silly and you would need to buy one anyways to reverse engineer it to do what you want
And buying one and replacing parts doesn't result in you replacing everything, it results in you replacing some things while say the receiver remains.
Angel Cox
>reverse engineer that has already been done. My main concern is making sure the aftermarket barrel fits whatever stock I pick. There are bullpup stocks available for "airsoft" that I am thinking about overlaying with the "stock" stock and using that as a template to cut out the channels needed for the barrel /receiver / group / well / etc.
I'm not paying $200 for some fucking plastic stock that looks like a p90 or whatever the fuck else.
Are any of you familiar with the machined pins that screw together snugly into a counter sunk assembly so that they don't just fall out? I've never seen them before, but the way they were described reminds me of a pollen press. I'm assuming there is a pin that has hollowed out ends that are threaded to accept a machine head screw on each side that when tightened fit perfectly within the frame while the flared heads keep the "pin" from falling out either side.
Just the receiver? Did you incorporate rails or does it just bolt on?
Jace Miller
Just the receiver, yeah. Used the integrated picatinny model up on fosscad. It needs a bit of tooling after the fact, like a few dimensions opened up and all the holes threaded. Otherwise it's good to go.
Parker Mitchell
Does a stock have to be specialized to fit a heavy/bull barrel? I'm wondering if I should make one to normal specs and sand if needed, or if I should lay a cylinder in the stock in CAD that is the same dimensions as the barrel I use and use it to cut out any excess material before printing a prototype.
Depends on the stock, some are tapered to the original barrels and some aren't. But yeah if you just do an extruded cut from the base diameter that'll get it. ABS. I hate PLA. Nope, you'll know it when you see it.
John Jones
Also, did you use a donor gun, or did you buy parts a la cart? I've seen receiverless "kits"/stripped rifles sold (used) for over $200-$250 and felt that was too much considering new is about as much, granted the used one won't require paperwork, taxes, and other infringe....fees.
Ryder Morales
Off topic, but I passed some heated fat I was rendering through a PLA screen I printed out for another project (filter was slow and the screen was looking at me). Within a minute the PLA was sagging from the heat.
Chase Nguyen
It was about half and half, I used what I had laying around from other builds like the bolt, recoil spring, and v block, some was new stuff like the bx trigger and 6" barrel. Since it's a 10/22 and you're gonna end up swapping everything out on it anyway might as well piece it out.
William Miller
Any advice for acquiring affordable parts, or is spending an arm and a leg to be expected?
Leo White
It just needs a big enough clearance
I'm surprised that the 10/22 works with 3d printed polymer receivers. Putting a bull barrel on a polymer receiver seems kind of pointless though, the polymer is going to flex so your barrel is going to move relative to your optic... Goes back to the question of what's the point
Evan Myers
>you'll know it when you see it.
I had to open the actual file to confirm since there was no render of it.
I hear it does well if you bake it, but who has time for that. Stalk Ebay, you find cheap parts now and again. But yeah expect to pay the gun nerd tax. Bingo.
Jayden Robinson
There are polymer pistols and AR receivers. Other than the front clasps snapping off on occasion, I haven't heard of other issues.
Jaxon Morales
It does just fine if you don't magdump like a retard. Never had any issues with mine so far. Apart from it delaminating that one time but that was because I threw it in the back of my truck under like 50lbs of shit. Whoops. Little glue and its good as new.
Parker Lopez
Thanks for posting. I thought this thread would get trolled into oblivion. I considered posting on >>/DIY/, but they're mostly into 3DP waifus and nerf guns; also that one guy who made the dick statue from Clockwork Orange.
Carson Powell
There are effectively disposable polymer pistols and there are polymer AR LOWER receivers (a non stressed part)
This goes back to my question of literally why though, the cast Ruger receiver costs you virtually nothing since like you said the parts cost you $250. I've seen 10/22s on sale for less than $150 which is fucking nuts so it makes more sense to just get the receiver to me. I get printing a stock but why fuck around with the receiver to get an inferior part for more money
Andrew Parker
So PLA wouldn't be the best choice or could it be used if you only not mag dumping and shooting a lot?
Bentley Sullivan
I really wouldn't use PLA. I mean, you could try, but I would only use it as a prototype. With this summer heat you might be okay printing ABS at 100% infill and then baking it if you have to. Also, there are other easy to print plastics out there now that have surpassed ABS, at least according to the nerds on youtube.
Nicholas Ross
Two reasons. Primarily, just to see if I could build a spoopy ghost gun. Just for funsies basically. Secondarily, you can't build a pistol out of a 10/22, has to be a virgin receiver or a charger for that. All that business is kind of a pain in the ass. It'd be fine for a while. How long that while is is up for debate. Honestly I wouldn't use pla for anything serious period.
Ryder Rivera
>challenge >DIY fun >"because I can" >no paperwork >SHTF preparedness >prototype for metal casting
Why not?
Bentley Stewart
Fair enough and alright thanks for the info not OP but yeah I'll try baking it sadly my crap 3D printer can only do PLA and not ABS.
Jackson Martin
Back to the OP, what parts would you recommend, avoid? I've heard recommendations for Volquartsen and also the BX trigger. Is the auto bolt release a must have?
Brandon Watson
what printer?
Henry Allen
da vinci jr 1.0 the only plus side to it is the build volume and it was cheap ($130 on newegg)
Noah Hill
maybe look into OrbiumTM or other meme filaments? It's [the current year].
Camden Robinson
>da vinci jr 1.0 maybe try to think outside the box. Print out the receiver in a low temp filament and cast it. They sell ARs in a bottle that you pour into a mold. you could probably buy a 2 part resin and pour it into a DIY mold that was printed.
don't settle.
Caleb Sullivan
Can't sadly I can only use the manufacturer filament I need to take the plung and just modify my printer to accept other filament.
Ian Cook
hot end swap? I bought a chinese clone for nylon and shit I still need to install on my CR-10.
Hudson Flores
I was thinking a mold would be the way to go after I print a receiver and check to make sure I have the right dimensions then start toying with different designs.
Camden Turner
once the printer pays for itself it makes it easier to justify buying an upgrade. Mine has come in handy fixing things around the house, but I really want to use it for firearms and musical instruments.
Ian Baker
The spool holder has a reader of sorts that requires a little bit of tinkering I found an instructable that would be fairly cheap to do just haven't had time.
Justin Allen
I'm actually going back and forth on this myself at the moment.
I want a toggle action 22 and the options aren't great. ~800 for a russian one with unobtanium mags, ~600 for a steyr but only 10 round mags and they are 30 each. So by the time I have 100 rounds on tap, I'm at about 900. And at that point I'm looking at the volquartsen reciever/bolt for 550. I'm not doing their 1200 dollar rifle.
So the question is whether I look for a donor ruger and swap out the bolt/receiver. Or if I look for parts a la cart.
Kevin Anderson
What stock is this?
William Carter
What I'd love to build is a Mk2/3, but for some reason the parts are unobtanium unless you want to go full volquartsen
Bentley Sullivan
Knoxx axiom, permanently modified to be unable to accept actual stocks of course.
you realize a bunch of companies make 10/22 receivers, right? the patent died awhile ago
Adam Cooper
Or Chicago screws if your mind isn’t in the gutter all the time.
Dominic Jenkins
thanks. would you recommend these over pins that can slip out, or are they just another pipe dream?
Nolan Phillips
Buy an 80% receiver. Why on earth do you feel the need to waste time & money building that part from scratch?
Dylan Bailey
This, exactly.
David Jackson
Draw up your budget FIRST, THEN plan your build. Do you have a clue how expensive a full tilt custom 1022 can get? Don't be obtuse.
Jaxson James
Dude, have you set out what your requirements for your design are? Is it performance? Weight? Aesthetic? If you don't go full potato on this, that will mean a LOT of extra practice ammo, or money to put in a 401K.
James Hill
Dude, are you sure that you are up for this? The juice is not worth the squeeze, unless you are in it for non performance, non-valuing your own time reasons.
Nolan Diaz
I'd like it light weight and as light on the budget as possible.
Justin Perez
I have more time than money at the moment. This is also to serve as an exercise in learning.
holy shit dude, that price. I'd rather spend it on tools.
Alexander Bennett
What orientation did you print it in? I was thinking about printing it rail side down but it seemed like so little material touching the bed... But it would eliminate most of the need for supports with the overhang angle around 40 degrees
> that price it was the first link on google. im sure you can find cheaper
William Williams
Not that poster, but they also have wax filament for such projects. Once you start getting into this shit you can't stop. Self reliance is one hell of a drug.
Being unconventional and persistent has allowed me to be debt free. House (not a cuck shed on wheels), vehicles, and all other property is 100% paid for. I paid off the house before I turned 30 a few years ago. People like to criticize, but I am content in my ways.
Oliver Morgan
>ruger1022receiver.com/ Thanks. I appreciate your help. I will try polymer, then cast aluminum, and if I just can't into DIY, I will save my shekels and lay em down on an 80% lower.
Austin Brown
i never assume peoples machining prowess... the 80% seem very easy because its "just a few holes to drill"... it is much less forgiving than an ar 80%. measure multiple times to EXACT locations and drill small, then ream to size. go slow, use a high quality vise and drill press. my dumb shit brother with no patience went through three of them before having me do it.
Nolan Clark
Rail down, yes.
Logan Adams
Those are some expensive mistakes.
Christian Green
>Those are some expensive mistakes. more money than brains etc etc...
Owen Walker
I think I'm getting ahead of myself, but this looks interesting: