The Russian Gorshkov Class Frigate's acceptance into the Navy has been delayed again to November. Unlike the Karakurt and Bykov Class corvettes, the Gorshkov has been delayed time and again which shows Russian incompetence. Why can't they just buy Chinese?
The Russian Gorshkov Class Frigate's acceptance into the Navy has been delayed again to November...
Aiden Hill
Chase Martin
They did. And Chinese engines are #1 reason of delays in RuNAVY.
Joshua Miller
*buys su-35 for a price 20 millions higher than f35*
Robert Gomez
>Chinese engines
Wut? Russians use chinese engines?
Kayden Wright
Since they can't get their hands on German, yeah, they do use Chinese copies of same German engines. And now they are trying to build their own, because those are shit.
Wyatt Richardson
Russian RnD was non existent form around 1989-2009
Blake Miller
Is it because they run on gutter oil imported from the sewers of China's poorest ghettos?
Levi Price
When the soviet union split, factories making ship engines ended up in Ukraine.
This was not a terrible problem until putin decided to yank the strings too hard on his puppet government in Kiev resulting in the popular uprising and Crimean occupation.
Despite what vatniks say, the sanctions stomped the russian economy back to 1998 levels and building up heavy industry is hideously expensive. Especially so when your engineers flee to the west, your population are drunk retards and sanctions prevent any civilian market.
That's why russia buys cheap chink engines made from crude pig iron that are utter shit in every regard other that price.
Bentley Cox
Consider licenced production of 052D destroyers. Cheaper and better than anything Russia can do on its own.
Anthony Reed
Modern Russian ship look like shit.
Buyan-M is the only exception.
Chase Hughes
That doesnt fi the main problem of Russia military, money.
And 052D sub system is not ompatible with Russian navy
Caleb Thomas
>its true because i just pulled that out of my ass
>muh chyna right /pool/???
>do i fit in fellow Dalit??
The chinese parts are usually finished and ready to deliver ahead of schedule you dumb nigger.
Its 100% corrupt Russian docks who prefer get money out of every delayed day due to low amount of contracts
Julian Nguyen
It's cheaper than the frigattes the Russians are trying to build.
Thomas White
because they're worse
Brody Cox
no, it's because they don't run in general
Brandon Robinson
Because it is built by chinese not Russian.
Cameron Allen
>yank the strings too hard on his puppet government in Kiev resulting in the popular uprising and Crimean occupation.
Not like there was any assistance (funding, online drives etc) from MI6 with Euromaidan or anything....
Landon Lopez
Putin was always going to win had he not done anything drastic. He played his cards wrong and lost a country.
His miscalculation is the real problem. He gained a naval base but lost the industry.
Jonathan White
Are they still having problems with their combat system? Last I heard the missiles launched kept losing datalinks past 30km.
Leo Wood
Calm down, Zhen
Lucas Anderson
>Not like there was any assistance (funding, online drives etc) from MI6 with Euromaidan or anything...
Not really, no. The West came first when it was obvious that the people was fed up with rampant russian exploitation and mismanagement, all the heavy lifting was done by the people.
Unlike the situation in Crimea where russia had to send in spetznas and army units to pose as """rebel""" as they could not muster popular support for an uprising.
William Davis
>He gained a naval base but lost the industry.
He gained nothing but a slip of paper saying that Crimea, which he de facto already owned, is his.
It boggles the mind how retarded the russians have been in the Ukrainian conflict, they gained nothing they didn't have before Euromaidan but lost a fuckton of industry, peons to exploit, tanked his economy, triggered a re-arming in Europe, cemented Ukraine as a staunch supporter of the West, gained hundred of miles of hostile border and the Crimean naval bases now rely on a single bridge for resupply rather than a safe land route.
And Vatniks call this victory.
Bentley Sanchez
>This was not a terrible problem
It was tho. Their quality was decreasing with every year passed, because they ignored capital reinvestments, spending money on buying new luxury cars and apartments for CEO instead.
Adam Bennett
>Their quality was decreasing with every year passed, because they ignored capital reinvestments, spending money on buying new luxury cars and apartments for CEO instead
A tale far too common in all post-soviet states, russia included.
Nicholas Edwards
Russia is at least trying to do something and fix their shit, instead of just plain stealing all contract money.
Eli Hernandez
The Gorshkov Class was designed in the 1990's which makes it obsolete. Its missiles are not as good as Chinese equivalents, such as the Zircon-S hypersonic missile that's not as good as the Chinese equivalent of the LRASM super stealth missile. It's Poliment AESA radar is only rated for 400km for 15m2 and only 40 illumination targets, this pales in comparison to the Renhai's super AESA radars using GaN ultra transistors that can search and detect 1m2 targets from 780km away. And the Gorshkov is very ugly, it's looks is too simple and aesthetics that only drunk sailors could love. It's Palash CIWS doesn't even have missiles because the development of the SOSNA-R missiles that were to be used were dropped in favor of the HERMES-A missiles that are used in the Karakurt's Pantsir-M CIWS which are not as good as China's super CIWS with GaN AESA radars.
Russian tech is shit. They should just buy Chinese, internet experts also believe in this.
Hunter Moore
>chinese numbers
Go ahead.
Andrew Turner
Clearly Putin can do no wrong and all of this was a CIA plot to punish poor Russia.
Oliver Adams
The Economy will recover, Sevastopol remains Russian.
Alexander Cox
I can never tell if you are trolling or being serious when you post garbage like this.
Henry Russell
Why? China's military too strong for you that you can't believe how powerful they are compared to America's?
Jonathan Johnson
Why do you think so and what you gonna do if you're mistaken
Connor Perez
Everyone knew that the Sevastapol bases where going to remain russian no matter what the outcome. Russia gained nothing but triggered an arms buildup in Europe and now has a new hostile army on it's border, one that was russian aligned before putin chimped out.
When the inevitable war in Europe happens, pic related will be the outcome.
Wyatt Ward
>Everyone
Lol, everyone knew Sevastopol will be leased to NATO once Ukraine shifts support to the West.
Dominic Robinson
Yada yada yada, wasn't my point.
Caleb Ortiz
Im still stuck on the idea that he might be French, of all things
Robert Lee
>super AESA radars using GaN ultra transistors that can search and detect 1m2 targets from 780km away.
It's press-releases war time!
Evan Thompson
Is that what kreml propaganda outlets such as RT or sputnik try to push these days?
The fact that the US had a naval base in Cuba during the cold war and to this day should tell you how likely it is that Ukraine would expunge russians even if they aligned with the west.
Besides, had the russians not been window-licking retards and allowed Ukraine to sign a deal with the EU, none of this would have happened.
Alas, russians are retarded and played straight into NATOs hands.
Eli Long
its almost like Ukraine did not want a Russian puppet government those bastards in M16 what done it because Stalin was so kind to them. Dear Papa Stalin and his mini me Papa Putin.
Julian Allen
Is there any US/EU citizen, or it's purely putinbots vs cocholbots?
Nolan Richardson
>super
>super
>super
So is this the new impressive meme Pajeets are forcing now?
Joseph Green
>projecting asspain
Stay salty Pajeet.
Bentley Myers
>y-youre just a pajeet!
lamo@urlyfe, chang
Camden Diaz
Unironically need to start thinking about buying Chinese.
Jaxon Phillips
That's embarrassing
Easton Wilson
The Renhai can detect 0.001 m2 from 1200 km away.
Logan Harris
1989 Tiananmen Square massacre in Beijing
David James
But do you have a CG presentation to back this statement?
Bentley Roberts
Yeah because we need a strategically indefensible naval base on the ducking black sea to replace the defensible one in varna that we barely use because well it's the fucking black sea. Do Russians lack the ability to think strategically?